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Title: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on August 11, 2007, 12:18:22 AM
We all know that Stomp Boxes are great! they are worth the investment...
BUT!?!?!?! what if u cant afford them all, even the amps or cabs
all u got is a guitar and a crappy amp...
We resort to AMP/PEDAL MODELING right?
Would you Go for the LINE6 PODXT Live (http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/3/2/238932.jpg) Or the BOSS GT-8 (http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/5/0/3/222503.jpg) VOX Tonelab SE and LE version (http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/1/8/425018.jpg) (http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/4/4/2/478442.jpg)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on August 11, 2007, 12:34:08 AM
Well, I for one did not "resort" to modelers. I was already well on my way to completing my pedalboard and getting a better tube amp than what I had at the time. Maybe one day I'll get back to that, but I sure as hell won't be need to in the foreseeable future.
I sort of miss how easy it is to tweak pedals on the fly. But the Korg AX3000G already has everything I could possibly need in a pedalboard, and then some.
As an added bonus, giving up the quest for THE analog tone allowed me upgrades for my PC and replace my aging car.
But of course, in jam sessions where all that matters is distortion, I still have my DIY pedals.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pizarro84 on August 11, 2007, 01:10:15 AM
Uhh.. bos gt8 kasi mas mahal at mas madaming buttons? :-D hehe sumisingit lang po..
Kung distortion modelling ang habol mo any of the two ok yan, pero yung Boss kasi may dual modeling processors yan so in short, mas mabilis mag process. Di ko lang sigurado sa bilis ng patch change kasi narinig ko lang yung tunog nung gadgets, di pa ako nakaka gamit. Anyway yun naman Line6 best selling ng musiciansfriend. Yung actual kasi na narinig ko puro OD at Dist gamit and so far na-impress naman ako sa dalawang gadgets.
Yung AX3000G din gusto ko yung tunog ng modulations nun, kaso yun nga lang di ko sigurado kung na-customize na yung presets nung ka-jam ko kasi mejo malabo or matalas yung mga OD at distortions (btw this was running on a fender chorus, the 65 watt amp, yung g9.2tt ko naka ibanez 15w lang pero malufet daw sabi nung mga ka-jam ko, hindi yung tumutugtog, yung FX :-D)..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on August 11, 2007, 06:54:16 AM
Pag matalas or whatnot ang tunog nung AX3000G, most likely, may sablay sa timpla. Or baka yun talaga gusto nung kasama mo.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: andrew_O_O on August 11, 2007, 08:06:02 AM
i'd choose either korg ax1500 or a zoom g7
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: titser_marco on August 11, 2007, 08:11:50 AM
The only thing that's keeping me from using multi-effects in a gigging scenario would be the patch changing lag/silence/"sinok" when I engage a new patch or trigger a new effect module (if the unit has a manual mode). As far as sound is concerned, they've already gone to a point that they're not just usable. Some of them can be quite fantastic, at least for the music I play.
How does the GT8 or GT6 fare in this aspect? The new G9.2tt/G7.1ut? Al, you seem to have a lot of experience with MFX, so perhaps you can share a tip that can be used to work around this lag?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on August 11, 2007, 09:11:41 AM
experience ko lang po ito sa sa G7.1ut ko...
parang stompbox lang din. unlike sa GFX4 at Korg AX1500G...iba na kaagad tunog ng guitar ko pagnakakabit...hindi rin digital ang tunog...
Malaking bagay din yung ZNR (noiese reduction) nya. tanggal kahit anung ingay (humming)...pero wag masyado kasi naapektuhan sustain. pero very usable talaga. Pero super clean talaga. Malaking factor din yung boost at tube nya. kahit papaano, maeexperience mo kahit glimps ng tube amps. Lalo pa kaya sa G9 na 2 tubes....
yun lang naman...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: greenweenie on August 11, 2007, 09:20:54 AM
I'd go for the PodxtLive because the sounds are upgradeable.
But for ease of use, Boss GT8. Plus the dynamic sensing is just plain cool.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ginblue on August 11, 2007, 09:22:37 AM
hhhmmmm bakit kaya hindi namemention yung TONELAB SE. If you like british amps or tones TONELAB ka na. Obvious talaga ang tube sound ng tonelab, i heard the demo of g7 and g9 pero di ko masabing tube sound...imho.
Ok naman talaga stompbox pero what if you only have 1pc ds1 and you want 2 settings for the ds1, 1 setting for OD and another for Hard distortion pipihitin mo ba lagi kapag nasa stage ka? Hirap yun eh sa totoo lang.
Up!!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on August 11, 2007, 09:39:31 AM
Marco, There's virtually no lag when switching between patches in the Zoom G series (I'm not sure about the tiny G1/G1X, though). The Korg AX3000G, just a tiny tiny bit. The Boss GT-6/GT-8, I haven't tested much, but it ought to be a non-issue as well. They're finally starting to use fast processors.
The problem I hear now is when navigating through patches with different delay settings. I get this pitch-shifting side effect with the Korg sometimes. But I think it's the nature of digital delays. Yun nga ba yung ginawa ni Paul Gilbert sa Get Out Of My Yard with his delay pedal?
For a workaround... I don't really know. The only one I know is to adjust my playing a little bit. Mute the strings for a fraction of a second when switching. I do the same thing with analog pedals, anyway. Kailangan lang maging mas conscious ng kaunti with a digital unit.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tejadster on August 11, 2007, 09:47:49 AM
boss me-50 nalang boss na sulit ang presyo astig ang tunog madaling gamitin :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on August 11, 2007, 09:50:24 AM
im thinking of selling all my pedals,
would it be worth!?!?!
im gonna buy a BOSS gt-8 or PODXT Live or TONELAB SE or LE
22k kapag binenta ko mga pedals ko...
reason:
ang bigat bigat nung pedal board plus ung mga pedal. puro bakal kasi :|
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Indie_Boy on August 11, 2007, 10:16:54 AM
it doesn't matter wether i use stomp boxes or multi-efx as long as i'm happy with my tone.. :wink:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: feraskulio on August 11, 2007, 10:21:57 AM
ang bigat bigat nung pedal board plus ung mga pedal. puro bakal kasi :|
Mismo!! Kaya ayaw ko ng stomps.....plus ala ko pera :-D :-D :-D.... Besides may dala pa ko mga modulation pedals like wah, talkbox and whammy, imagine adding 6 more...sheeesh!!! :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on August 11, 2007, 10:38:06 AM
any reviews???
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: titser_marco on August 11, 2007, 10:41:26 AM
Marco, There's virtually no lag when switching between patches in the Zoom G series (I'm not sure about the tiny G1/G1X, though). The Korg AX3000G, just a tiny tiny bit. The Boss GT-6/GT-8, I haven't tested much, but it ought to be a non-issue as well. They're finally starting to use fast processors.
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For a workaround... I don't really know. The only one I know is to adjust my playing a little bit. Mute the strings for a fraction of a second when switching. I do the same thing with analog pedals, anyway. Kailangan lang maging mas conscious ng kaunti with a digital unit.
Ah I see. It's good to hear that the G series don't have that. I've been wanting to get my hands on either a G7 or G9 so commuting won't be such a hassle for those gigs that are quite far. Plus it's also a safe option for those gigs that can't guarantee an amp for each guitar player, as we have two guitars in the band and some bars only have one guitar amp. At least, the PA can serve as an amp and produce a decent sound thanks to the amp sims, particularly the ones on the POD XTLive.
My issues with lag were actually brought about by some our our songs that necessitate playing a chord and holding it while you change into another sound. In the GFX-4, the lag is very noticeable so that's why that was scrapped out of the option list.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: cacophony on August 11, 2007, 11:39:27 AM
tanong ko lang mga sir, dahil sa nacucrious din ako sa Line 6 PODxt live na yan, madali bang gamitin yan?? kasi parang and complicated ng pagswiswitch from one effect to another... pede bang maging manual yung mga footswitches dun??? :?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pizarro84 on August 11, 2007, 11:58:14 AM
Marco, There's virtually no lag when switching between patches in the Zoom G series (I'm not sure about the tiny G1/G1X, though). The Korg AX3000G, just a tiny tiny bit. The Boss GT-6/GT-8, I haven't tested much, but it ought to be a non-issue as well. They're finally starting to use fast processors.
[...]
For a workaround... I don't really know. The only one I know is to adjust my playing a little bit. Mute the strings for a fraction of a second when switching. I do the same thing with analog pedals, anyway. Kailangan lang maging mas conscious ng kaunti with a digital unit.
Ah I see. It's good to hear that the G series don't have that. I've been wanting to get my hands on either a G7 or G9 so commuting won't be such a hassle for those gigs that are quite far. Plus it's also a safe option for those gigs that can't guarantee an amp for each guitar player, as we have two guitars in the band and some bars only have one guitar amp. At least, the PA can serve as an amp and produce a decent sound thanks to the amp sims, particularly the ones on the POD XTLive.
My issues with lag were actually brought about by some our our songs that necessitate playing a chord and holding it while you change into another sound. In the GFX-4, the lag is very noticeable so that's why that was scrapped out of the option list.
Titser, talaga nga pong mabilis ang patch change ng zoom, @ 7ms hindi na noticable ng human perception yun (kung yung 10ms nga po na lag di na noticable when recording) pero regarding sa weight po, mejo mabigat 'tong FX na 'to, referring to g9.2tt @ 12.1 lbs pwera adaptor), pero definitely mas magaan yung 7.1 (8.8 lbs) but little less features. Owning the g9.2tt is like owning 12 analog effects na tig 1-lb ang bigat although i can manage kasi 200 punder ako :-D ( i cary my amp, gutar and 9.2 upstairs at once :lol:) so kung weight po ang concern mejo wag yung 9.2 :-) tip lang po
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on August 11, 2007, 12:05:44 PM
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Titser, talaga nga pong mabilis ang patch change ng zoom, @ 7ms hindi na noticable ng human perception yun (kung yung 10ms nga po na lag di na noticable when recording) pero regarding sa weight po, mejo mabigat 'tong FX na 'to, referring to g9.2tt @ 12.1 lbs pwera adaptor), pero definitely mas magaan yung 7.1 (8.8 lbs) but little less features. Owning the g9.2tt is like owning 12 analog effects na tig 1-lb ang bigat although i can manage kasi 200 punder ako grin ( i cary my amp, gutar and 9.2 upstairs at once cheesy) so kung weight po ang concern mejo wag yung 9.2 smiley tip lang po
yup...hindi mo talaga mapapansin...as in sobrang smooth ng transition bawat patch....sa experiance ko with G7 palang...naku, mabigat talaga...lalo na kung nasa hard case ko...hehehe...pero sigurado namang matibay....hehehe
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: titser_marco on August 11, 2007, 12:13:35 PM
I see, I see. I think I can manage with the G9, since it's thinner than my pedalboard. My pedalboard weighs around 15-16lbs, so I reckon the g9 will be a welcome change in case I do get one.:)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: cacophony on August 11, 2007, 02:07:18 PM
it doesn't matter wether i use stomp boxes or multi-efx as long as i'm happy with my tone.. :wink:
apir! :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Les Paul on August 11, 2007, 02:36:36 PM
speaking of the zoom g-series, napansin ko na usually nagiging defective yung footswitches especially on the zoom g2 and g2.1 siguro kailangan lang talagang ingatan..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on August 11, 2007, 02:37:17 PM
titser, eto yung sa akin...may kabigatan din pero ok lang
speaking of the zoom g-series, napansin ko na usually nagiging defective yung footswitches especially on the zoom g2 and g2.1 siguro kailangan lang talagang ingatan..
you mean senstitve foot buttons ng g-series??? i think not... :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on August 11, 2007, 05:26:13 PM
Pareho lang gamit ng switches from G2 to G9.2tt. They're not the real heavy duty mechanical DPDT/3PDT's associated with boutique pedals, though. So, I'm not surprised if some durability issues pop up every now and then.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kawayan_strat on August 11, 2007, 07:55:52 PM
I'm a gigging musician and i extensively used the boss gt6 for 1 1/2yrs.That's 5x a week @ 31/2hrs a night of extensive playing.
My band plays a lot of genres from the 50's to the present,and all i can say is that this thing is CRAP!!!Especially the od/ds sect.Wala kang makukuhang matinong setting.I've been tweaking eversince i got it and it's a good thing i got rid of it. :evil:
In the meantime.........back to pedals. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: your_guy on August 11, 2007, 08:23:12 PM
I'll definitely go for multifx. The benefits are just incomparable. Um, tanong lng po sa mga experts. Do you know how does incubus get their outerspace like sound ? Parang sa "are you in?" at intro ng "nice to know you". Anong modulation kya un? Or bka synths un? Dko mkopya eh. :? Thanks.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on August 11, 2007, 08:32:50 PM
LOL! You do know that the guy who posted before you hated his multi-effects unit, right? :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: andrew_O_O on August 11, 2007, 08:46:29 PM
Me too. I'll definitely go for multifx. The benefits are just incomparable. Um, tanong lng po sa mga experts. Do you know how does incubus get their outerspace like sound ? Parang sa "are you in?" at intro ng "nice to know you". Anong modulation kya un? Or bka synths un? Dko mkopya eh. :? Thanks.
i just listened to are you in....sounds like the sound that the guitarist of muse makes when he plays with his zvex probe thing...
and...
maybe you should remove the "me too" in your post since the guy who posted before you said something totally to what your saying...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: titser_marco on August 11, 2007, 08:51:19 PM
I'm a gigging musician and i extensively used the boss gt6 for 1 1/2yrs.That's 5x a week @ 31/2hrs a night of extensive playing.
My band plays a lot of genres from the 50's to the present,and all i can say is that this thing is CRAP!!!Especially the od/ds sect.Wala kang makukuhang matinong setting.I've been tweaking eversince i got it and it's a good thing i got rid of it. :evil:
In the meantime.........back to pedals. :-D
kawayan, u mean GT-6 is CRAP???
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kawayan_strat on August 12, 2007, 03:16:43 AM
I'm a gigging musician and i extensively used the boss gt6 for 1 1/2yrs.That's 5x a week @ 31/2hrs a night of extensive playing.
My band plays a lot of genres from the 50's to the present,and all i can say is that this thing is CRAP!!!Especially the od/ds sect.Wala kang makukuhang matinong setting.I've been tweaking eversince i got it and it's a good thing i got rid of it. :evil:
In the meantime.........back to pedals. :-D
kawayan, u mean GT-6 is CRAP???
for me.kasi bro if your into like one or two genres oksha.pero if your a gigging musician who plays all kinds of music(pati ballroom :-D) "OUT talaga yung MFX na'to.Araw2 ko sha ginamit sa togs for 1.5yrs,ala talaga tas ambigat pa. :x
in fairness naman mas ok yung ax30g.magaan na mura pa. :-D mas ok pa yung mga lumang boss na MFX.i had an ME5 back in'92,dat was DA BOMB! :evil:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on August 12, 2007, 03:27:50 AM
I'm a gigging musician and i extensively used the boss gt6 for 1 1/2yrs.That's 5x a week @ 31/2hrs a night of extensive playing.
My band plays a lot of genres from the 50's to the present,and all i can say is that this thing is CRAP!!!Especially the od/ds sect.Wala kang makukuhang matinong setting.I've been tweaking eversince i got it and it's a good thing i got rid of it. :evil:
In the meantime.........back to pedals. :-D
kawayan, u mean GT-6 is CRAP???
for me.kasi bro if your into like one or two genres oksha.pero if your a gigging musician who plays all kinds of music(pati ballroom :-D) "OUT talaga yung MFX na'to.Araw2 ko sha ginamit sa togs for 1.5yrs,ala talaga tas ambigat pa. :x
in fairness naman mas ok yung ax30g.magaan na mura pa. :-D mas ok pa yung mga lumang boss na MFX.i had an ME5 back in'92,dat was DA BOMB! :evil:
so pang ROCK Genre lang ang boss GT-6??? na try nyo na po ung GT-8???
bili sana ako, sayang...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kawayan_strat on August 12, 2007, 03:47:01 AM
I'm a gigging musician and i extensively used the boss gt6 for 1 1/2yrs.That's 5x a week @ 31/2hrs a night of extensive playing.
My band plays a lot of genres from the 50's to the present,and all i can say is that this thing is CRAP!!!Especially the od/ds sect.Wala kang makukuhang matinong setting.I've been tweaking eversince i got it and it's a good thing i got rid of it. :evil:
In the meantime.........back to pedals. :-D
kawayan, u mean GT-6 is CRAP???
for me.kasi bro if your into like one or two genres oksha.pero if your a gigging musician who plays all kinds of music(pati ballroom :-D) "OUT talaga yung MFX na'to.Araw2 ko sha ginamit sa togs for 1.5yrs,ala talaga tas ambigat pa. :x
in fairness naman mas ok yung ax30g.magaan na mura pa. :-D mas ok pa yung mga lumang boss na MFX.i had an ME5 back in'92,dat was DA BOMB! :evil:
so pang ROCK Genre lang ang boss GT-6??? na try nyo na po ung GT-8???
bili sana ako, sayang...
di ko naman sinabi na pang rock lang.eto,to put it bluntly.mejo kasi nasayang oras ko sa kaka tweak.for me it did not work,ksi nga i'm a gigging musician,so i play all types of music. para ka rin nagta-tap dance sa paglipat ng patch.hehehe
eto...i don't use the eq,amp models,most of the efx and esp the od/ds kung pwede lang. pero la ako magawa kasi yun ang dala ko parate sa gig.OK yung features at maraming possibilities,pero tonewise,panget sha.IMHO
TRY it out first.siguro it'll work better if you use it as a preamp.tas sa power amo in ka sumaksak baka ok pa.pero kung sa harap?di talaga swak.IMO
i haven't tried the GT8,baka siguro iba na yung tunog. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on August 12, 2007, 11:37:47 AM
ung mga zoom products, san ba gawa? Japan ba un o europe??? US???
sabi kasi sakin, stay away daw ako dun...di daw maganda dist sound nun, manipis, super process ng tunog...tunog computer.
eh, d2 naman daming gumagamit...ano ba talaga!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on August 12, 2007, 12:00:23 PM
super processed, tunog computer. hahahaha. ano ba naman yun. do they have any idea what kind of descriptions they're using? helloooo.... this is 2007, not 1984 anymore.
the new Zoom effectes are made in Taiwan, afaik. i have yet to see a new honest to goodness digital unit that's made in Europe, though.
The G series have good high-gain distortion models, IMO. kaso maraming nagsasabing medyo tagilid sa mga low-mid gain overdrive models.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on August 12, 2007, 12:31:21 PM
well, taga music store nag sabi nun sakin...
di ko na sasabihin what music store :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pings15 on August 12, 2007, 12:51:24 PM
well to be safer, bili k nlng ng boston distortion pedals if ever hindi magustuhan yung distortions ng zoom...
mura lng naman yung bostons eh.. hahaha
makabalik nga ulit sa multi effects... how much a G7 would cost na second hand?.. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on August 12, 2007, 01:32:01 PM
may nagbebenta dito G7 very mint 11k nalang...pero i got mine 11k also but with hardcase and pedal board. sulit! hehehe...
gamit ko kanina sa church...SWEET! :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Chicco on August 12, 2007, 01:36:27 PM
While we're at it can you guys give recommendations on what MFX to buy? Pos/neg comments for each effects. Dati kasi Zoom lang ang preference ko. I want to hear about other effects, too.
Ok lang ba? :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: cacophony on August 12, 2007, 02:45:29 PM
i recently heard sound clips of the zoom g series on www.zoom.co.jp... masyadong digital yung sound unlike Boss GT-8 or Line 6 PODxt live
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on August 12, 2007, 04:23:31 PM
Can we define what "digital-sounding" or "over-processed" actually means?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: cacophony on August 12, 2007, 06:07:52 PM
choosing between PODxt live or GT-8 is confusing... both have nice feature... PODxt live has the emulation of 4 pofessional mics while GT-8 has not... :?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: blues2death on August 12, 2007, 06:18:06 PM
POD xt or xt live........ maganda sa recording.if you're on a budget and d mo afford ng sangkatutak na amps...ok ang POD xt, dun naman ata sya talaga na-design. pero sa gigging purposes, d ko sya enjoy.
well, first of all....dami sobrang features, nakaka lito na minsan kasi d mo alam kung anong pipiliin mo para kmakatugtog ng maayos. ang nakita ko lang na useful sa POD xt live ko ay yung TAP function.
kumbaga d mo na kailangan ng madaming presets for different songs because your didgital delay isnt in time with the song...TAP ka lang.
kung d mo natimpla ang POD, it sounds sterile and compressed. kahit malakas na ang tunog, natatabunan ka pa rin ng drums at bass....kailangan extra soundcheck ko or sobarang mabilis mag timpla ng effects.
so pod xt live...recording--good.....gigging/pwesto---nyeh
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pizarro84 on August 12, 2007, 08:38:34 PM
POD xt or xt live........ maganda sa recording.if you're on a budget and d mo afford ng sangkatutak na amps...ok ang POD xt, dun naman ata sya talaga na-design. pero sa gigging purposes, d ko sya enjoy.
well, first of all....dami sobrang features, nakaka lito na minsan kasi d mo alam kung anong pipiliin mo para kmakatugtog ng maayos. ang nakita ko lang na useful sa POD xt live ko ay yung TAP function.
kumbaga d mo na kailangan ng madaming presets for different songs because your didgital delay isnt in time with the song...TAP ka lang.
kung d mo natimpla ang POD, it sounds sterile and compressed. kahit malakas na ang tunog, natatabunan ka pa rin ng drums at bass....kailangan extra soundcheck ko or sobarang mabilis mag timpla ng effects.
so pod xt live...recording--good.....gigging/pwesto---nyeh
Sir,
One question...
pano mag timpla sa PODXT Live??? kasi puro button nakikita ko...except sa EQ dedicated for AMP models pwede mag timpla sa unit mismo? or sa software pa?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pizarro84 on August 12, 2007, 09:18:02 PM
POD xt or xt live........ maganda sa recording.if you're on a budget and d mo afford ng sangkatutak na amps...ok ang POD xt, dun naman ata sya talaga na-design. pero sa gigging purposes, d ko sya enjoy.
well, first of all....dami sobrang features, nakaka lito na minsan kasi d mo alam kung anong pipiliin mo para kmakatugtog ng maayos. ang nakita ko lang na useful sa POD xt live ko ay yung TAP function.
kumbaga d mo na kailangan ng madaming presets for different songs because your didgital delay isnt in time with the song...TAP ka lang.
kung d mo natimpla ang POD, it sounds sterile and compressed. kahit malakas na ang tunog, natatabunan ka pa rin ng drums at bass....kailangan extra soundcheck ko or sobarang mabilis mag timpla ng effects.
so pod xt live...recording--good.....gigging/pwesto---nyeh
Sir,
One question...
pano mag timpla sa PODXT Live??? kasi puro button nakikita ko...except sa EQ dedicated for AMP models pwede mag timpla sa unit mismo? or sa software pa?
Sigurado pwede yan dud, pag may manual ka makukuha mo yan. Mas maganda pa rin talaga yung ikaw ang nag set ng presets..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: titser_marco on August 13, 2007, 09:40:11 PM
POD xt or xt live........ maganda sa recording.if you're on a budget and d mo afford ng sangkatutak na amps...ok ang POD xt, dun naman ata sya talaga na-design. pero sa gigging purposes, d ko sya enjoy.
well, first of all....dami sobrang features, nakaka lito na minsan kasi d mo alam kung anong pipiliin mo para kmakatugtog ng maayos. ang nakita ko lang na useful sa POD xt live ko ay yung TAP function.
kumbaga d mo na kailangan ng madaming presets for different songs because your didgital delay isnt in time with the song...TAP ka lang.
kung d mo natimpla ang POD, it sounds sterile and compressed. kahit malakas na ang tunog, natatabunan ka pa rin ng drums at bass....kailangan extra soundcheck ko or sobarang mabilis mag timpla ng effects.
so pod xt live...recording--good.....gigging/pwesto---nyeh
I heard may lag siya in terms of responding to a player when he plays. Totoo ba ito?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: nathanmanansala on August 14, 2007, 02:16:13 PM
I heard may lag siya in terms of responding to a player when he plays. Totoo ba ito?
nope. wala naman akong narinig na ganun. hehe. sorry. inintercept ko yung tanong.
also, about the patch switching zip. dun sa mga mga newer ones i've tested, the gt8 (which i have), xtl, tlse, gnx3k, and g9.2tt, yung gnx3k lang ang narinig ko na may noticeable zip talaga. its about as bad as the one in the ax1500g i used to have.
each has its own pros and cons i guess. i wont get into the difference sa sound between units anymore. kasi they're too minute now and that comes down to preference and feel, usually. it is generally agreed that you can get good, or at least acceptable, sound from the 4 i mentioned above, if you're willing to spend time tweaking. if you're looking for a "plug and play" setup and dont really need to vary your sound much anyway, then maybe you'd be better off buying individual effects nga. and before we get into "i change my sound with my hands" discussions, thats not what i mean by "varying your sound." :lol: what i mean is what if you have to go from quick slap delay to a long-ish ambient effect in the middle of a song? or what if you need a wobbly chorus for the verse and need it to be a less intense shimmer for the bridge? or what if you need metal type chug on one section of one song and light and warm drive on another or its a 15-20 song set cover a lot of bases? what are you gonna do? bring 4 dirt, 2 delay and 2 chorus stomp boxes?
yung pros and cons for each, from a gigging (and recording) perspective:
even with the lag, the great thing about the gnx3k is, yung speaker sim and output programming (i think i've raved about it somewhere else before). you have 4 outputs (2 1/4 and 2 XLR). you can set it up so that the speaker sim applies to just the XLR outs and feed those to the board so you dont have to mic your amps. then you can set up the 1/4 outs with no speaker sim and plug them into amps. thats something you cant do with the others. you usually have to turn the speaker sim off and plug one of the stereo outs into an external speaker sim to feed both you amp and the board straight from the unit. and you cant set up amps in stereo na after that.
yung g9.2tt and tlse are pretty much even stevens to me. fans of both units claim that the tube does have an effect on the "feel." deltaslim used a tlse for some time last year and, from where i was standing, it sounded about as good as his usual boutique stomp setup. plus its got 2 expression pedals. a big plus kasi you can use one to control overall volume and the other for other stuff like rotovibe or wah emulation. with other units kasi you have to rock the pedal forward (effectively changing the volume, if you're using it as a volume pedal) and press down to activate the wah or rotovibe. the big bummer about the tlse for me is its lack of, uh, flexibility or limited programmability. it makes for a pretty user friendly package because you wont have to dig deep to get to the essentials but i sort of wish it could do more (you're stuck with one preamp/speaker/effect sequence). also, there's the way some effects are lumped under the "pedal" group. you can't use wah with the fuzz?!?! makes me wonder if the designers have even heard of hendrix.
the xtl has switches for turning individual effects in the patch on and off. thats an edge over the others where you have to hit (and sometimes hold) a switch to get into manual mode before you can you can turn specific effects on and off on the fly. yung software it comes with is pretty good. plus you can get plugins (i think they call them model packs) and other updates. and its got a USB out for conversion-less recording to pc. its a pretty good box overall. the decision to go with the gt-8 instead of this came down to preference. i've owned a gt-6 na kasi so it was easier for me to find my way around the gt-8's myriad of buttons and parameters.
i've owned the gt-8 for a little over a year now (on and off :lol:) and i've been through different stages with it from love to hate and sometimes apathy. :lol: i sold my first one (i still havent stopped kicking myself over that) thinking i didnt need it anymore only to end up needing it again and buying another one. the biggest, and most common, beef about the gt series is that its so complicated. i always say its complicated kasi you can do so much with it. want to put your delay first in the chain then into a wah then into the preamp then into a bi-phaser then into an external pedal (like a whammy) then into a compressor? you can do that. want 3 different EQs placed in different parts of the signal chain? you can do that. there's also an external loop you can place anywhere in the signal chain (and, if your amp has an effects loop, you can put your amp in that external effects loop). you can use it to switch channels on your amp. in fact, there isnt much it cant do with your signal. there are a lot of other things it can do that i'll probably never need anyway. it just feels good to know that, if i ever need a steve stevens ray gun sound, this unit can deliver. so whats wrong with it? why arent more people using it? kasi, if you're buying locally, its usually more expensive than the others when brand new. it doesnt have a patch editing software (though meron 3rd party software you can download from bossgtcentral.com). no way of connecting to pc via USB so if you want to do direct-to-pc recording, you'll have to use the headphone out and go into the soundcard, which means extra D/A/D conversion, or you'll have to use the PDIF output. i tend to think of it as a unit geared more towards playing live, an out and out stompbox, than the XTL, which feels more like an amp modeler adapted for use onstage.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: brandey on August 14, 2007, 06:48:24 PM
the last time i went to tom lee i tried out the tonelab le and the ax3000g. sa preset tones lamang na lamang ung tonelab le kahit anong patch ok na kagad para sakin. Ung sa ax3000g naman, ewan ko ba bakit ganun tunog nun ang layo sa ax1500g bitin saka masyadong matalas ung mga presets. Sa versatility naman lamang ung ax3000g kase ang daming nagagawa kahit mga bagay na hindi naman kailangan pwedeng gawin :-Dhehe tulad ng ESS. natawa ko ng nasubukan ko ung ESS malupit nga kase makakapag arpeggios ka ng isang note lang pero nakakahiya naman ata kung may nanunuod sayong mga musikero. :|
Bibilhin ko na sana nun ung tonelab le kaya lang nadiscover ko na hindi pala pwedeng pagsabayin ung wah saka mga dist/od modellers (tulad nga nung sinabi ni nathan). Kailangan ko pa bumili ng external na wah pedal para makagamit ng wah :? So kung "weight" ang reason mo for switching from stomps to multi, wag ung tonelab LE kasi mabigat na sya saka kailangan mo pa magbitbit nga wah :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: turiguiliano on August 15, 2007, 12:13:33 AM
gt8.
my only problem with it is the lag when switching patches/banks. thats it.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaster26 on August 15, 2007, 07:45:47 AM
I've been a multi-effects freak for years... particularly Zoom multi effects - Zoom 707II, GFX8, Zoom 1010, Zoom G7.1ut, Zoom 505, and some Korg multis as well - AX30G, AX1500G, AX100G, AX3000G. To get the tone that you want in a multi-effects, you really need time to tweak and experiment on the presets of a particular unit. Depende pa yan sa gamit mong amps and guitar. You can build programs from scratch or just use the preset, either way, use what works for you. For me, so far 3 multi-effects stand out from the list I've mentioned above - G7.1ut, AX30G, and AX3000G. If I ever I will buy a multi again, I will go for Zoom G7.1ut - decent distortion sounds, modulation, and pure efficiency. Kuhang-kuha tunog ng Boss DS1 and Crybaby wah, kakaaliw. Yung mga nagsasabi na manipis o alanganin ang distortion sound ng G7.1ut, well baka di lang nila natimplahan ng maayos yung unit. Presets kasi ng G7 medyo may mga pangit na timpla eh. Pero once you give it time in tweaking and experimenting, sobrang dami ng potential nito. Dapat tyagaan lang tlga sa timplahan, kahit anong multi-fx naman ganun di bah? Tska maganda kasi sa G7 rugged design and construction, bakal kung bakal. Tska makapal yung bakal ha. Wala ring sinok when you switch from one patch to another. 2nd is yung AX3000G - has lots of potential as well when it comes to tone building. Ayoko lang dito medyo manipis yung casing nya. Surprisingly, AX30G is on my list - ganda kasi distortions nito and the modulations din. Pangit lang dito super obvious ang sinok. I have'nt tried PODXT Live, Boss GT8 and GT6, Tonelab SE... Maybe when I get my hands on them, compare ko sa G7. For now, I have to say it's Zoom G7.1ut. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on August 15, 2007, 08:53:03 AM
ako din...G7.1UT / G9.2TT.... :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: blues2death on August 15, 2007, 09:03:10 AM
tam_guitar....
sa pc na titimpla din ang pod xtlive. when you buy it new, you can download the necessary software from the the line 6 website....free yun, plus may mga extra amp ka pang pedeng i-download.
just read the manual dude.
titser marco....la naman noticeable lag sa pod.....kakatamad lang talaga mag timpla.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on August 15, 2007, 10:32:14 AM
Sa mga naghahanap ng G7 http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,57322.0.html (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,57322.0.html) Hehe my digital phase is over, hello analog set-up.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jun_gats on August 15, 2007, 11:43:31 AM
i also have been using a multifx for some time now pero it's the tone quality that matters to me, imo noticable patching when your live isn't really important because it's live. i didn't notice this in my fx though. im using a gnx3 and it's been with me since 2003. you cannot compare digital to analog. it's made to be compact.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on August 15, 2007, 02:42:02 PM
sa pc na titimpla din ang pod xtlive. when you buy it new, you can download the necessary software from the the line 6 website....free yun, plus may mga extra amp ka pang pedeng i-download.
just read the manual dude.
titser marco....la naman noticeable lag sa pod.....kakatamad lang talaga mag timpla.
bro!
one more question...
SAN MAS MAGANDA MAGTIMPLA??? SA PODXT LIVE UNIT O SA PC???
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: cacophony on August 15, 2007, 03:01:11 PM
I've been a multi-effects freak for years... particularly Zoom multi effects - Zoom 707II, GFX8, Zoom 1010, Zoom G7.1ut, Zoom 505, and some Korg multis as well - AX30G, AX1500G, AX100G, AX3000G. To get the tone that you want in a multi-effects, you really need time to tweak and experiment on the presets of a particular unit. Depende pa yan sa gamit mong amps and guitar. You can build programs from scratch or just use the preset, either way, use what works for you. For me, so far 3 multi-effects stand out from the list I've mentioned above - G7.1ut, AX30G, and AX3000G. If I ever I will buy a multi again, I will go for Zoom G7.1ut - decent distortion sounds, modulation, and pure efficiency. Kuhang-kuha tunog ng Boss DS1 and Crybaby wah, kakaaliw. Yung mga nagsasabi na manipis o alanganin ang distortion sound ng G7.1ut, well baka di lang nila natimplahan ng maayos yung unit. Presets kasi ng G7 medyo may mga pangit na timpla eh. Pero once you give it time in tweaking and experimenting, sobrang dami ng potential nito. Dapat tyagaan lang tlga sa timplahan, kahit anong multi-fx naman ganun di bah? Tska maganda kasi sa G7 rugged design and construction, bakal kung bakal. Tska makapal yung bakal ha. Wala ring sinok when you switch from one patch to another. 2nd is yung AX3000G - has lots of potential as well when it comes to tone building. Ayoko lang dito medyo manipis yung casing nya. Surprisingly, AX30G is on my list - ganda kasi distortions nito and the modulations din. Pangit lang dito super obvious ang sinok. I have'nt tried PODXT Live, Boss GT8 and GT6, Tonelab SE... Maybe when I get my hands on them, compare ko sa G7. For now, I have to say it's Zoom G7.1ut. :-D
Based on this review, I think I'll go for Zoom G7. Pero ipon muna, hehe.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pizarro84 on August 17, 2007, 06:43:40 AM
wag na lang po pansinin yung tugtog puro sabit :-D
bro ung acoustic preset,
ganun tunog ng guitar ko...clean, neck pickup, straight to amp
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pizarro84 on August 17, 2007, 08:30:18 AM
Mejo bawas kasi highs nyang mga recording ko swanget kasi yung pang record :-D Humbucker ba neck P.U. mo? bridge pickup kasi yan (humbucker din), mas acoustic ang tunog pag yung bridge-mid/neck-mid gamit ko kaso mahina kesa neck/bridge (nakakatamad mag-adjust ng volume, nagclip yung recorder ko pag sumobra lakas :-D).
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaster26 on August 17, 2007, 09:41:43 AM
I've been a multi-effects freak for years... particularly Zoom multi effects - Zoom 707II, GFX8, Zoom 1010, Zoom G7.1ut, Zoom 505, and some Korg multis as well - AX30G, AX1500G, AX100G, AX3000G. To get the tone that you want in a multi-effects, you really need time to tweak and experiment on the presets of a particular unit. Depende pa yan sa gamit mong amps and guitar. You can build programs from scratch or just use the preset, either way, use what works for you. For me, so far 3 multi-effects stand out from the list I've mentioned above - G7.1ut, AX30G, and AX3000G. If I ever I will buy a multi again, I will go for Zoom G7.1ut - decent distortion sounds, modulation, and pure efficiency. Kuhang-kuha tunog ng Boss DS1 and Crybaby wah, kakaaliw. Yung mga nagsasabi na manipis o alanganin ang distortion sound ng G7.1ut, well baka di lang nila natimplahan ng maayos yung unit. Presets kasi ng G7 medyo may mga pangit na timpla eh. Pero once you give it time in tweaking and experimenting, sobrang dami ng potential nito. Dapat tyagaan lang tlga sa timplahan, kahit anong multi-fx naman ganun di bah? Tska maganda kasi sa G7 rugged design and construction, bakal kung bakal. Tska makapal yung bakal ha. Wala ring sinok when you switch from one patch to another. 2nd is yung AX3000G - has lots of potential as well when it comes to tone building. Ayoko lang dito medyo manipis yung casing nya. Surprisingly, AX30G is on my list - ganda kasi distortions nito and the modulations din. Pangit lang dito super obvious ang sinok. I have'nt tried PODXT Live, Boss GT8 and GT6, Tonelab SE... Maybe when I get my hands on them, compare ko sa G7. For now, I have to say it's Zoom G7.1ut. :-D
Based on this review, I think I'll go for Zoom G7. Pero ipon muna, hehe.
I'm kind of regretting that I sold my G7 (financial reasons)... :| I miss it so much... Now, I'm using AX100G... Obvious na obvious sinok. :|
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on August 17, 2007, 10:01:24 AM
hehehe...ganda talga ng G series ng zoom ngayon...sulit talaga ako sa G7 ko! hehehe
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on August 17, 2007, 10:13:32 AM
boss baka naman pwedeng makahingi ng patch ng acoustic at lead settings mo ng G9...try kong habulin sa G7 ko...
lahat na pala...wag lang yung crunch....sana kayanin sa G7 ko...please
thanks!
:D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: cacophony on August 17, 2007, 10:39:51 AM
I'd go for the PodxtLive because the sounds are upgradeable.
But for ease of use, Boss GT8. Plus the dynamic sensing is just plain cool.
+1
asteg dynamic sensing feature niya :-D
may dynamic feature din naman yung gt8 dba??
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: titser_marco on August 17, 2007, 07:58:19 PM
Hi! I'm currently thinking of getting either a Yamaha DG Stomp or a Line POD XT Live for home recording. What are your takes on these two? Thanks!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on August 18, 2007, 09:42:30 AM
good for recording!!!
live. im not so sure.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jv21 on August 18, 2007, 10:03:07 AM
one feature ng boss gt8 na astig eh ung "FX CHAIN" feature of which u can arrange your effect settings na gusto mo.. hehe.. walang hassle to unlike sa analog.. like if u've got around 10-12 pedals tas sa bandang adlib eh u wanna use tremolo and delay, gahol u na sa tym sa pag stomp ng mga efx na gusto mo. sa GT8, isang tapak lang, game na. hehe :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on August 18, 2007, 10:14:48 AM
one feature ng boss gt8 na astig eh ung "FX CHAIN" feature of which u can arrange your effect settings na gusto mo.. hehe.. walang hassle to unlike sa analog.. like if u've got around 10-12 pedals tas sa bandang adlib eh u wanna use tremolo and delay, gahol u na sa tym sa pag stomp ng mga efx na gusto mo. sa GT8, isang tapak lang, game na. hehe :-D
lupit nga nun!!!
pwede ka mag arrange ng pedals!
benta mo na gt-8 mo sa akin bro :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: cacophony on August 18, 2007, 12:57:42 PM
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kanshooter on August 18, 2007, 08:25:34 PM
I still go for the gt-8.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: DrDeathRNMD98 on August 20, 2007, 03:15:03 PM
may benta bang mga multi fx's na parang ganyan sa raom? zoom 3030 o kaya korg ax30g...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: dvd9 on August 20, 2007, 04:29:39 PM
I'm a g1x user , mejo manipis ang OD/DIST module, so i added an analogue overdrive and run it thru a clean drive module from the g1x :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on August 20, 2007, 06:28:20 PM
Mga sir, nabili ko na po yung Vox Tonelab LE dito sa everymusic. pero kung gusto nyo po makita, pwede ko po dalhin. just tell me if you want to test it. Tnx.
pasensya na po....di ako nakatiis e. repressed kasi nung bata pa... :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Pope on August 20, 2007, 07:06:58 PM
Cool! I just tried the tonelab le a while ago in everymusic rin, ganda! Think i wanna get one too! What do you think abt the tonelab le?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on August 20, 2007, 07:18:32 PM
Cool! I just tried the tonelab le a while ago in everymusic rin, ganda! Think i wanna get one too! What do you think abt the tonelab le?
Hi sir Pope. Thanks for droppin by and trying it out earlier. I'm starting to tweak it now. I'll try to post some clips when Im a little less busy. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Pope on August 20, 2007, 07:53:45 PM
Hi sir Pope. Thanks for droppin by and trying it out earlier. I'm starting to tweak it now. I'll try to post some clips when Im a little less busy. :-)
Oh, you're sir Swordplay pala! hehe. Yeah, it was my pleasure. Na GAS lang ako! haha. Pls lemme know rin if you find out more cool things you can do with it? Thanks rin for letting me try out your tonelab, hehe. :-) Guess am gonna have to start selling some of my pedals, hehe
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on August 20, 2007, 08:06:52 PM
Oh, you're sir Swordplay pala! hehe. Yeah, it was my pleasure. Na GAS lang ako! haha. Pls lemme know rin if you find out more cool things you can do with it? Thanks rin for letting me try out your tonelab, hehe. :-) Guess am gonna have to start selling some of my pedals, hehe
Sure thing sir. daan-daan ka lang. :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: bendedbeam on August 20, 2007, 08:54:11 PM
I used to have a zoom 707II, but sold it and decided to go all analog. Lately, a BOSS ME-33 crossed my path and decided to give it try. The drive effects e.g. DIST/OD were very useful IMO. This is probably due to the faster sampling rate which is 44Khz and ADC-DAC converts 24 bit of data. These are the 2 specs you'd like to see on a processor. The higher the better, the reason why some of the effects sounds fake is because of poor sampling rate and lower ADC conversion. What I don't like is that there's so many effects and its impossible to make use of them all :lol: So it's like paying for the whole package but then you'll be using only 10% of it... I find the other effects just for playing around and can't really use them seriously, true across all processors I believe.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: titser_marco on August 20, 2007, 08:59:03 PM
hehe.. tsamba nga lang me bro.. 17k ko lang nabili kay sir shadowmoon.. may ibang offers 24k 2nd hand kaya swerte ko d2. hehe.. salamat kay mr vai halen binili nya gt6 ko ng 13.. hehe.. :-D 22k na lang ata brand new nito bro.. settle u na lang sa brand new.. worth it naman sya.. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Lahed92801 on August 21, 2007, 10:06:53 PM
I like the sound of some multieffects but i just dont like it that they get REALLY outdated every year (minsan nga less eh) :| and it makes you say "DAMN! If i had waited a bit longer, big improvement in tone for the same price..."
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on August 21, 2007, 10:11:04 PM
hehe.. tsamba nga lang me bro.. 17k ko lang nabili kay sir shadowmoon.. may ibang offers 24k 2nd hand kaya swerte ko d2. hehe.. salamat kay mr vai halen binili nya gt6 ko ng 13.. hehe.. :-D 22k na lang ata brand new nito bro.. settle u na lang sa brand new.. worth it naman sya.. :-D
30k sa PJC 30k sa Pitch 25.4k sa Everymusic
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jv21 on August 21, 2007, 10:13:51 PM
I like the sound of some multieffects but i just dont like it that they get REALLY outdated every year (minsan nga less eh) :| and it makes you say "DAMN! If i had waited a bit longer, big improvement in tone for the same price..."
hehe.. un nga lang.. parang mga cellphones din eh noh sir? hehe :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Lahed92801 on August 21, 2007, 10:24:43 PM
Onga eh, and it's not good for humid places like the philippines :| Dali magrust
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on September 05, 2007, 02:39:33 AM
baka may nagbebenta ng GT-8 dyan :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tronixx42 on September 05, 2007, 03:16:38 AM
I only have my boss ME-8 and have a set for stompboxes, satisfied naman ko sa multifx ko daming patches din magawa,di rin pahuli sa out ng fx, ok din kung i-cascade ko yung stompboxes ganda ng effects.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: snidd on September 05, 2007, 05:44:47 AM
tama yun bike! haha.. ako binenta ko na peds ko nung narinig ko ung tone mo sa G2 eh!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on September 13, 2007, 01:05:32 AM
BOSS BOSS BOSS BOSS!
kaya nga tinawag na BOSS eh dahil BOSS talaga siya!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ginblue on September 13, 2007, 03:42:38 PM
tonelab se multi ko, di nagagamit baka meron may gusto trade sa guitar or cash
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: aparma on September 13, 2007, 04:05:09 PM
hullo. i'm curious about this combo:
any epiphone valve jr. owners who play multis through this amp? particularly a zoom g9 or a boss gt-8? even better if one can compare a similar setup with the atomic amp. probably not a fair comparison, but if you consider price/value for money, how does it fare?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: acidtest on September 16, 2007, 05:52:02 AM
anybody here knows how to calibrate ax1500g's expression pedal? nawala na ung manual ko e.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Lan on September 16, 2007, 08:27:04 AM
have you actually heard the sound clips of gnx3000? if you read some other forums,the gnx3000 is the most outstanding mfx out there that could compare to the actual amps,plus if you order the supercd(plug ins) which is the best thing to do if you own a gnx3000. plus you can combine two amps into one which we call it gnx owners "hybridamps". the cd that i am talking to contains a lot of amps you can imagine, to name the few: most of the marshall amps, diezel amps( tool and metallica's black album), rectified amps like hughes kettner and mesa boogie, the famous engle amp, krank amps( killswitch engage and most of the metalcore band use now adays),peavey amps (joe sat and the famous 5150 of eddie van halen) fender,soldano,VHT(mudvayne) laney and vox. and the most exciting part of it is you can mix and match every one of them to create a SUPERHYBRID AMP!!!! $0.02
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Indie_Boy on September 16, 2007, 12:20:09 PM
Hi! I'm currently thinking of getting either a Yamaha DG Stomp or a Line POD XT Live for home recording. What are your takes on these two? Thanks!
the DG Stomp is good for both Live and recording (that's why i'm also craving for one).. Clem Castro of Orange n Lemons used to gig with it before he went on stomps and partnered it with an squier tele.. sobrang warm and ang ganda ng tunog nya. Maybe it's bcoz of the amp na rin. One more thing is malakas daw ang output ng DG Stomp..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Indie_Boy on September 16, 2007, 12:29:47 PM
First one is a modification of the compchorus preset and the other one is a rectifier patch I made with a touch reverb and delay. these are patches I use a lot. I hope you like them. First attempt ko recording direct to pc and I'm very pleased with the results.
Pagpasensyahan nyo na at maikli lang. welcome po ang mga tanong. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on September 17, 2007, 03:33:58 PM
Oops, anlakas pala pag sa windows media player lumabas. pakipatay na lang po yung equalizer nyo. tnx. :-o
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: astennu on September 17, 2007, 05:00:52 PM
My thoughts on Multi-effects. I have been gigging with a DIGITECH GNX4 for a year na.
PROS: •Recording via CF card to me is the best feature since usually sa likod ako ng bahay nag eensayo. Hindi ko na kelangan magplug sa computer. Press record lang and then ok ka na. And may Mp3 function so di na rin kelangan ilabas yung cd player at meron na ring Drum Machine. •Tonewise ok din. Kelangan lang ng maraming tweaks since yung mga presets hindi masyado maganda. O din kung makakabili ng SUPERCD ni Guitar3456 para sa mga magagandang patches kaso ala pa ko pambili. Pwede ring mag WARP ng amp models. Pwede rin magshare ng mga patches sa fellow users through the website digitech.com •Assignable ang footswitch at exp pedal hanggang 3 effects at once. So pwedeng sabay sabay naka-on sila. So kung may 3 na footswitch at isang exp pedal times 3 sobra sobra daming effects un na pwedeng icontrol. Pwede ka na magcover ng pink floyd song. •Output options madami pwedeng stereo kasi may L/R na 1/4 input. Pwede rin XLR tsaka Line. •May Ground Lift tsaka may pre-amp na.
CONS: •Mahirap mag tweak direct sa unit mas mabuti kung sa PC or MAC. Yung increments kc ng sa gnx4 parang per thousand. Example sa normal stompbox kapag linagay mo sa 6 alam mo na 6 talaga cya wala na mga in betweens like 6.2 pero ung knobs sa GNX4 ay nasa 6000 un. So nakakalito kc pwedeng sa 6345 mo ilagay kc by a thousand kc ung increments. Masyadong precise ung tweaks. Better sa computer kasi mas madali mag tweak. •May Lag cya kapag papalit ka ng patches sa Preset mode pero kapag nasa stompbox mode walang lag kasi parang stompbox din sya. So stompbox mode talaga ako lagi since pwedeng magassign ng 3 kada footswitch para ka na rin nag patch mode w/out the lag. •Heavy as hell- ambigat kc diecast ung casing plus malaki rin cya 9"x21". Kaya softcase lang cya nakalagay kaso bumigay na rin ung stitch ng softcase ko dahil sa bigat. I wouldn't dare to have it hard case unless meron akong kotse. •If your recording with CF card make sure that it's a good one. Ung mga generic na CF in time nagkakaroon ng problema.
Overall sa akin ok na ok sya parang swiss knife madaming uses. Compared sa ibang mfx eto lang ata ang meron external na recorder at pwede ka rin magmix direct sa unit. Sa Tone compared to tonelabSE (the other guitarist in my band owned one before) at Line6 PODXT live (other guitarist current efx unit) may panalo ung PODXT kasi on the fly mabilis gumawa ng magandang tone as for the tonelab medyo mahirap gumawa ng heavy sounding na patches kaya trinade nya sa PODXT at mahirap ung assignable footswitch nya. We're both seven string user kaya important din ung chug chug na tone.
Advise ko lang sa bibili ng mfx try testing muna the unit and if you can't try the brand's forum site. Ang dami dun na info's about the pros and cons. Almost a year din ako nag lurk sa forum nila before ako bumili. Personal preference lang talaga yan ngyon pa na medyo maganda na technology so medyo magkakaparehas lang ang capabilities. Nothing beats the old stompbox in terms of tone but if you want to have a complete rig and recording unit get a mfx. I think it's worth it naman.And lastly always plug your mfx sa return para di ma colorize ang tone.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Lan on September 18, 2007, 03:41:21 AM
all of what astennu had said are all true. kung utility wise e mas maganda talaga ang gnx4 kase it has a built in recorder plus mp3 player which u can jam along if you have backing tracks. kung baga e standalone mfx sya. but tone wise e dyan talo ang gnx4 sa gnx3000 cause the chip that they use inside the beast is different if i'm not wrong e dna2. it's the same from the chip that they use on new rp's model and the new rack mfx series GSP1101. yan lahat sabi sa digitech forums. plus if you buy the supercd series......man i can't explain the experience! mind blowing, i'm not exagerating it, ask anyone who own supercd series e hands down silang lahat. even in the forum e sinsamba yung supercd series. i'm not any way or whatsoever related to the creator of the supercd series,syang if 3000 sana sayo astennu e i can send you some sample patches from the super :-D :-D :-Dcd series. and in regards naman sa amp you will use, e it's better to use a what they call "earcandy amp". like a keyboard amp kase yun walang sound coloring kung baga flat yung eq. mine is a behringer k1800fx which is the best and cheapest one,buy two for stereo sound. if you have the money e buy a reactor yun talaga design for mfx anyway thats my $0.02 for this.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: astennu on September 18, 2007, 10:51:33 AM
Actually the trend today for Modelling FX is not buying an amp but buying a PA system. Madami sa forum na satisfied kapag nakasaksak sa PA, have tried it many times sobrang lapit nung tunog from the tweak presets versus plugging direct to the return input of an amp. Another thing ung iba bumibili ng modelling speaker para sa amp. Un ung may flat eq para di ma-colorize ang tone. The reactor seems ok din kaso di masyado binibili. Ok din kung sa keyboard amp just like LAN said. Tried it once din ganda rin ng tone na lumabas.
About dun sa GNX4 chip vs. ung GNX3000 chip na DNA2. Mas mabilis cya compared to the gnx4 chip but in tones nakakapareha din. The new chips lang madaming sims amp na bago na ala sa gnx4. Pero pwede rin ma-emulate with SUPERCD patches. Tanong ko lang pala bro how much ba bumili nung SUPERCD? inorder mo ba yun sa US. Im planning to buy kahit ung supercd rock patches. Ganda nung mga sample. Right now pinagtatyagaan ko mag tweak at dinodownload ung patches na libre na inupload ni Guitar3456- cya ung maker ng superCD. Maybe you can share the gnx3000 patches to me. Baka pwede i-convert sa GNX4.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: fade2black0520 on September 20, 2007, 03:43:23 AM
which is the best among the three?
1.boss gt8 2.zoom g9.2tt 3.vox tonelab le
????? :| :?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Impellitteri on September 20, 2007, 06:44:29 AM
I think these are the ones that should be compared: 1. Boss GT8 2. Zoom G9.2tt 3. Vox Tonelab SE 4. Line 6 PODxt Live 5. Digitech GNX3000 6. Korg AX3000G
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: nathanmanansala on September 20, 2007, 07:28:34 AM
dto ako d msyadong sure.. 2times lang ako nkagamit ng gt8 eh.. (hiram sa tropa.. wala pakong effects nun..)
okey nman sya.. un lang.. d ko tlga maintindihan kung pano kalikutin.. pero mahusay ang tunog.. practice lang natuwa na ako sa tunog nya.. okey dito ung placement ng mga switches.. at mas magaan sya sa g7..(d ko ngamit expression pedal hehe nto so d ko alam kung maganda ba hahaha..)
gamit ko ngaun g7.1ut at okey nman.. medyo me konting problema sa expression pedal.. at ung placement ng bank switches at function switch medyo maiinis ka hahaha.. me time na napindot ko ung pang apat na patch button nung tinry ko pndutin ung function switch.. nasa taas kasi.. wla sa gilid.. hindi ka pwede magwala pag gus2 mo pindutin ung function switch hehehe.. mappahinto ka.. at isa pa.. killer bigat.. masakit sa likod.. lalo na sa aming mga walang mga gulong.. pero mganda nman overall.. pwede sya manual mode.. wla syang drummachine haha..nakakainlab dito sa effects na to eh ung super lupit na distortion sound.. ang hapdi.. nkakasugat hahaha.. ska ung boost at tube parm.. konting pampaganda.. kontiii lang..
PANGET UNG MGA PATCHES.. wag nyo gagamitin sa live ung mga patches.. oke nman ako d2 sa effects na to.. wala ako balak palitan ito for a gt8..
teka teka isa lang.. di ako magaling hahaha..
ung isa d ko pa nttry.. so d ko alam.. pero sabi ni sir badong mganda na dw ung g7.1ut..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Lan on September 22, 2007, 09:01:19 AM
for those people who are still deciding to buy mfx here's an helpful link,enjoy!!!! http://forum.thestompbox.net/showthread.php?t=5765
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 22, 2007, 09:30:00 AM
About sa mga settings ng G7 PM nyo si sir Plissken...daming alam na kalikot nun. naguat nga ako na pwede pala sa G7 na hindi ko alam e. Korek si sir Maganda talaga Distortion nito. Pero malaking pakinabang sa akin talaga ay yung cleantones nito at Tap Delay...sa ngayon enjoy ko muna ito. saka na ako palit pag mababa na ang G9 or may bago na ang zoom! :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: darksyde_brianne on September 22, 2007, 11:19:35 AM
mga boss !!! help nman... balak ko kc bumili ng guitar at effx.. hindi nman ako magaling na player cguro mjo intermediate lng... so here's the problem... wala kc ako background sa mga details ng mga multi effx... anu po ba ang advantages ng tig-iisang effx sa multi effx.. ?? may lag po ba ang multi efx pag ngswitch sa ibang sounds ?? ano po ba ang suggestion nyo na magandang MFX na hindi nman over 15k ?? HELP !!!!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: fade2black0520 on September 23, 2007, 01:29:29 AM
any info on the gnx3000? can it match the gt8?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Lan on September 23, 2007, 01:43:13 AM
well check this mfx outhttp://www.digitech.com/products/RP_newpgs/rp250.htm and another one[url]] (http://[/url)http://www.digitech.com/products/RP_newpgs/rp250.htm and another onehttp://http://line6.com/podxt/- alot of people tesify that these two kick ass, but well it also depends upon the taste of a individual person. And also read some forums and reviews. ok this my $0.02 for this
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jommel on September 23, 2007, 02:48:30 AM
mga boss !!! help nman... balak ko kc bumili ng guitar at effx.. hindi nman ako magaling na player cguro mjo intermediate lng... so here's the problem... wala kc ako background sa mga details ng mga multi effx... anu po ba ang advantages ng tig-iisang effx sa multi effx.. ?? may lag po ba ang multi efx pag ngswitch sa ibang sounds ?? ano po ba ang suggestion nyo na magandang MFX na hindi nman over 15k ?? HELP !!!!
payo sa akin ni sir publico.. (lui..) mas maganda talaga ang tunog ng mga single effects pedals.. kc me tube.. pag multi.. digital ung tunog.. at medyo mhihirapan ka sa gig kasi pag ibat ibang amp ang gnagamit mo eh nagiiba din tunog.. kung medyo kaskas at palm mute 2g2gan mo siguro bmli kna lang ng stomps kc d mo din mgagamit ung sandamukal na features ng multi's pero kung soloist ka na wala msyadong budget eh mag multi's ka nalang.. kung la ka talaga pera mag zoom gfx1 ka nlang or zoom g2 oke na un.. kc karaniwang pangmasa na effects eh zoom.. karamihan sa mga probinsyano alam ang zoom d alam ang toneworks at ang line6 (galing din ako probinsya.. no offense.. nlaman ko lang line6 d2 sa manila na haha.. kdlasan kasi sa mga music shops sa probinsya eh zoom lang ang tinda..).. wla ako mxiado alam sa stompboxes.. boss lang ang alam ko at ung boston.. WAG KANG BIBILI NG STOMP NA CENTURY! mura nga mura din ung tunog.. un lang hehehe.. anyone na me info para sa mga stomps? ako din gus2 ko ng info hehehe..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on September 23, 2007, 04:04:21 PM
Stompbox
or
MUlti
BOSS is BOSS :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jommel on September 23, 2007, 04:33:46 PM
alam ko san nabili ni redjaztin un. kay MR VAI HALEN. hehe :-D
saan? saan? :-D
hehe bka meron pa sya ibang items na mggustuhan ko hehehe..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 24, 2007, 09:35:37 AM
@jv21
at sayo naman binili ni sir VAI yung GT-6 nya...hehehe... :D
talagang panalo...considering na isang maliit lang scratch sa harap...kaya nga todo react ako sa mga taong nagbebenta ng 13-14k na G7 e...hehehe
kawawa naman yung nabibiktima....
@jommel
pero ok lang yan bossing. for me kahit ako pa nakabili sa presyo mo. pwede na din kasi iba talaga nagagawa ng G7. tyaga lang sa kalikot. maraming features talaga yan. at hindi ko pa napapakinabangan lahat. pero sulit na talaga ako
:D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jv21 on September 24, 2007, 10:14:58 AM
haha magkano sir? yan ba sir ung kasya sa washburn mercury 2 series?? at meron din kayo nung gigbag ng g7.1ut??
hmm mkadiskarte na nga ng pera.. ung mga me utang jan.. hali na kayot pumila.. hehe...
OT: naku, not really sure kung pwede but you can bring your guitar over for measurements. The Dame floydrose advanced tremolo is designed after the Floydrose 2 I think. Check mo sa website namin:
Sa gigbag naman, pwede rin pagawa k n lang ke mang Robert (me softcases din sya). Ok naman yung gawa nya and I guess it's going to be a lot cheaper. Just had a hardcase for the Tonelab LE made and pulido pagkagawa. Wala # nya kc nasa shop ako. Meron sya number sa customized pedalboard thread.
Mukhang magastos ka sir Jommel a! Pinagalitan ka tuloy ni sir Badong! :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 24, 2007, 06:55:56 PM
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kakabili mo lang ng g7 eh puro gastos agad naiisip mo, magtimpla ka muna ng magandang patch!!
natawa ako dun ah....
ako 2 months na yata tong G7 ko pero di ko pa nakakalikot lahat...at hindi alam na mga functions...hehehe
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on September 24, 2007, 07:33:17 PM
kakabili mo lang ng g7 eh puro gastos agad naiisip mo, magtimpla ka muna ng magandang patch!!
nya.. sino kya d mgastos.. mkano ngastos mo sa stickers nggitara mo ha hehehehehe..
actually kya d ako mkgawa ng mgandang patch.. d ko alam ang tunog na maganda.. hahahahah..
to swordsplay: mkano ung Dame floyd?? :-D
hehe tanong ko lang bka skali mgkapera ako hhehe.. pro d sure hehehe..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 24, 2007, 07:58:09 PM
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nye, bakit naman? :-)
kasi busy sa trabaho e...saturday ng gabi ko lang nagagalaw G7 ko...practice sa church..tapos lingo sa church tugtugan, pagkatapos ligpitan na...halos sa practice sa church lang nakakalikot at pag absent...hehehe
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on September 24, 2007, 08:07:28 PM
kasi busy sa trabaho e...saturday ng gabi ko lang nagagalaw G7 ko...practice sa church..tapos lingo sa church tugtugan, pagkatapos ligpitan na...halos sa practice sa church lang nakakalikot at pag absent...hehehe
haha sir ano ba tinutugtugan mo?
Y.F.C?
V.C.F?
J.I.L.?
Methodist?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 24, 2007, 08:15:55 PM
@ swordplay
kailangan e...sa isang lingong busy tayo sa ibang bagay. kailangan talagang maglaan tayo ng araw sa Lord para magpasalamat sa isang buong lingong nagdaan. tumutugtog ka rin po sa church?
halos lahat nga ng kailangan kong tunog sa church nandito na e...mukhang magtatagal talaga sa akin tong G7 ko... :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 24, 2007, 08:17:57 PM
@jommel
wala po dyan...hehehe...pero pareho ng sa CCF, JIL, COP, WOH...
sa Harvest Outrech Ministries Int'l. (Marilao, Bulacan) po ako.... :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on September 24, 2007, 08:39:36 PM
kailangan e...sa isang lingong busy tayo sa ibang bagay. kailangan talagang maglaan tayo ng araw sa Lord para magpasalamat sa isang buong lingong nagdaan. tumutugtog ka rin po sa church?
halos lahat nga ng kailangan kong tunog sa church nandito na e...mukhang magtatagal talaga sa akin tong G7 ko... :D
Used to play for Christ the Living God in Sapang Palay (pero Catholic po ako)! :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 24, 2007, 08:42:58 PM
Kahit naman po Catholic basta kay Lord ka tumutugtog malaking bagay yun. may kaibigan ako sa YFC sya tumutugtog...
:D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on September 24, 2007, 08:54:45 PM
Kahit naman po Catholic basta kay Lord ka tumutugtog malaking bagay yun. may kaibigan ako sa YFC sya tumutugtog...
:D
Tama! :-) kaso lately, i was being asked to play for Victory Church but I was also asked if I'd be willing to convert. :-) Guess I'm not ready yet. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 24, 2007, 09:06:46 PM
Tama! :-) kaso lately, i was being asked to play for Victory Church but I was also asked if I'd be willing to convert. :-) Guess I'm not ready yet. :-)
hehehe...Pero maswerte ka bro...kasi sabi sa bible marami ang tanawag, pero kakaunti ang pinili. Mapalad ka kung mabigyan ka ng pagkakataong maglingkod sa Lord. Hindi duty yan, PRIVILEGE yan pre.... Darating ka rin dyan....Importante maganda relasyon mo kay Jesus. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on September 24, 2007, 09:26:51 PM
hehehe...Pero maswerte ka bro...kasi sabi sa bible marami ang tanawag, pero kakaunti ang pinili. Mapalad ka kung mabigyan ka ng pagkakataong maglingkod sa Lord. Hindi duty yan, PRIVILEGE yan pre.... Darating ka rin dyan....Importante maganda relasyon mo kay Jesus. :-D
Sobrang OT na tayo ha!! :-D Still thinking about the conversion part! :-) in the future siguro sir. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 24, 2007, 09:32:16 PM
oo nga no....hehehe...
Gasta ako Love ko G7 ko...hehehe
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pansit_habhab on September 26, 2007, 12:24:31 PM
Pasingit lang mga sir,
I've been using analogs for my fender american standard strats for years, pero medyo nahaselan lang din ako sa pagsesetup kasi minsan nagloloose yung cables, pag may problema yung isang pedal apektado na yung rig ko, mabigat, kailangang imaintain isa-isa, kaya I opted to using a Boss GT-6 instead, since majority of my stomps are Boss din naman.
Tinry ko lang, kasi importante sa kin bukod sa tone ko e yung convenience so I could focus more on the playing and hindi sa stomp boxes.
At first medyo nanibago ako sa GT-6 kasi mejo toy-yee(tunog laruan) yung tunog ng mga patches (like most of the multi's I've tried before) pero kailangan lang palang upuuan at talagang timpalahin. I find the Manual mode very handy ( you can assign the GT-6's pedals as individual stomp boxes) parang manual din less the hassle of taking care of patch cables and dc chains. Hindi naman ganun katindi yung lag in between patches. Pero mas ok din talaga if you use the manual mode, it works like a dream. Kailangan lang tutukan mo at intindihing maigi bawat button and function ng GT-6 para maextract mo ang full potential nito, I've got friends who switched to a GT-6, they still have their analogs pero majority of their gigs e GT-6 na.
I've played in an orchestra way back in my college days, i've got several bands with different genres (a rock/blues band, a pop cover band, a jazz standards band) ok naman ang tunog ko IMO. Yun lang, sa tingin ko kasi kung di man katunong ng analog ang mga bagong Multieffects pedals ngayon, they're getting a little bit closer plus the convenience.
I'm an avid fan of classics, I still am very much in love with my Fender Stratocasters and still drool over analog pedals pero open din ako sa mga technological innovations na nandiyan to make our lives and playing easier kagaya ng sinabi ko kanina so we could focus more on the playing, sabi nga din ng isa kong kaibigan na narinig niya sa kaibigan nya, "The real heavenly tone is in your hands, it's in your fingers".
It's a good thing to blend innovations with the classics, it works for me. IMO.
Ika nga ni Mark Lapid, "Saging lang ang may puso"
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 26, 2007, 01:11:22 PM
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Ika nga ni Mark Lapid, "Saging lang ang may puso"
LOL
syang tunay...dapat talaga isapuso nating ang bawat bagay na ating ginagawa...
kung saging nga may puso.... tayo pa kayang tumitibok-tibok pa! :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jommel on September 26, 2007, 01:37:08 PM
syang tunay...dapat talaga isapuso nating ang bawat bagay na ating ginagawa...
kung saging nga may puso.... tayo pa kayang tumitibok-tibok pa! :D
hahaha.. remix edition hahaha..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on September 27, 2007, 01:28:04 PM
reviews on BOSS ME-50!?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: darksyde_brianne on September 29, 2007, 10:49:41 AM
mga sir malaking tulong ung mga posts ng mga tao dito.... mukang maiisip ko na kung alin ang bibilhin ko na effx... pinapipilian ko kasi ang GFX 5 at G71ut ang gFX5 eh may drum machine... g7 wala... ang g7 ay 7mS ang sinok nya...halos di na maririnig... ang gfx 5 kaya maririnig pa or halata ??? mukang mas prefered ko ang GFX 5 kasi may drum machine.. kumbaga para skin eh may beat ako na kasabay kahit ako lang mg-isa... parang may drummer din ako po tama ba... ang G7 wala ... pero sempre mas maganda sounds ng G7... malaking malaki po ba ang difference nila sa sounds ??
anyway parang mas nkakalamang po para skin ang GFX 5 based sa mga gustu ko...
any comments pa po ba para mkadag dag sa pgpili ko ??? sa mga experiences nyo po sa 2 effx na toh.... salamat po !
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 29, 2007, 11:06:10 AM
Boss...danap ko na yang effects na yan...Go for G7...aanhin mo naman drum machine kung bitin ka naman sa tunog. tapos yung sinok nya hindi halos di halata. talagang hindi mo mapapansin yun. From GFX-4/5 tapos nag G7 ako. inisip ko na sana noon pa G7 nalang binili ko.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: darksyde_brianne on September 29, 2007, 11:20:06 AM
Boss...danap ko na yang effects na yan...Go for G7...aanhin mo naman drum machine kung bitin ka naman sa tunog. tapos yung sinok nya hindi halos di halata. talagang hindi mo mapapansin yun. From GFX-4/5 tapos nag G7 ako. inisip ko na sana noon pa G7 nalang binili ko.
ahh ok po... salamat... mukang malaki nga ang difference ng sounds nila ah base na din sa pagpili mo... sige po mukang soundwise eh G7 tlga ang lamang... excited nko bumili ah... atleast pag may effx nko eh mas madami pko matututunan na mga kanta...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 29, 2007, 12:19:46 PM
Gaya po ng sinabi ko sa isang thread...kaya po walang Sampler or brumbeat ang G7/G9 kasi made talaga sya for live stage performance. that is why meron din tube for boost. Pero kung di po kayo dumaan sa mga older models ng zoom. medyo kailangan talagang kalikutin nyong maigi ito. kasi maraming features dito na kahit ako di ko pa nagagawa. pero narinig ko na sa ibang G7 lalo na sa G9.
Hope na makahanap ka ng murang G7...sulit talaga! :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on September 29, 2007, 09:42:53 PM
sino may digitech rp-300 dito!?
type nyo ba to!?
pano makakuha ng good tone d2!?
hirap ako timplahin eh
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: trinity on October 04, 2007, 01:53:53 PM
I'm gonna have to welcome myself back in this club.
Convenience took over! :lol:
what do you have there Boss Mark? :-D
-the only multi-effect i have here is a Pandora PX4D, which i use on making demos, recording for bt jam here on guitar central, and for pictorial lang... less effort kase di mo na kailangan mag mic ng amp :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tackielarla on October 24, 2007, 10:10:42 AM
-the only multi-effect i have here is a Pandora PX4D, which i use on making demos, recording for bt jam here on guitar central, and for pictorial lang... less effort kase di mo na kailangan mag mic ng amp :-)
A GT-8 for now. ...i want a GT-Pro or a POD XT pro, though. :-D
Napapagod na akong dalhin buong rig (amp&pedalboard) ko sa mga togs, lalo na pag maliit lang naman ang venue. Amp palang, ambigat na! Pag pedalboard naman ang dala ko, chances are nagkakaroon ng "incompatibilities" ang rig ko sa amp ng venue. :| ...well unless i'm playing on a Plexi or a Twin just like some venues have provided.hehe :-D
Lesson learned: One's rig can only sound consistent as a whole. The guitar, fx/pedals and amp contribute heavily to one's sound, and that there is a compromise in the slightest alteration of the chain. But I think an amp/fx modeller can somehow fair well in terms of consistency even at this compromise.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: chito_eoi on October 24, 2007, 07:00:40 PM
Lesson learned: One's rig can only sound consistent as a whole. The guitar, fx/pedals and amp contribute heavily to one's sound, and that there is a compromise in the slightest alteration of the chain. But I think an amp/fx modeller can somehow fair well in terms of consistency even at this compromise.
ayayayayay... pinagulo mo isip ko ngyn! makes me wanna pull my trigger on that LINE6 pod 2.0 posted at the classified section :? :? :?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: markthevirtuoso on October 24, 2007, 07:21:38 PM
^haha :-D Choose what works best for you, bro. :-)
Here's a ver informative link: http://forum.thestompbox.net/showthread.php?t=5765
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ginblue on October 24, 2007, 07:26:25 PM
Lesson learned: One's rig can only sound consistent as a whole. The guitar, fx/pedals and amp contribute heavily to one's sound, and that there is a compromise in the slightest alteration of the chain. But I think an amp/fx modeller can somehow fair well in terms of consistency even at this compromise.
Kaya ako, i prefer may stomps before the VAMP2, after the VAMP2 FX return naman sa AMP. If i will rely sa amp for my tone mahirap yun...kapag sa gig iba na amp paktay na hehehhe wala pala ko banda and di pala ko nakakatugtug sa labas hehehhe. imho lang po.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pings15 on October 24, 2007, 07:45:08 PM
yep, i prefer to have a multi fx sa rig ko along with my stomps....
para pag pangit yung amp.. gamitin ko amp modeling ng multi para kahit ppno mapaganda ng unti yung tunog hehehehe/...
and its great as a backup up unit nandun na agad. :-) :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: markv on October 24, 2007, 11:17:13 PM
my vote goes for ART XTREME multi. :-) (analog distortions/digital modulations)
...a rare GEM if you can find one :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ginblue on October 24, 2007, 11:24:37 PM
Line 6 POD X3 Live - INSANE features! getting one soon. check out the specs...
http://line6.com/podx3live/
Anak ng Syoke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o Kala ko tapos na gas ko pag naayos ko yung isang guitar ko!!! mukhang lilipad ang g9 ko ah..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: omen on October 24, 2007, 11:36:30 PM
ito n a ata ang holy grail ng mga multi. gas na naman. :-D
ito n a ata ang holy grail ng mga multi. gas na naman. :-D
Kaya lang marami pang bugs and issues eh. Of course, this is not surprising knowing that the product had just entered the market. Still, many perceive that line 6 is forcing to fit as many "stuffs" as they can in their recent line up. In return, compromises arose (-- perhaps the implications of the law of diminishing returns? :-D). I've read complaints about switches being less sturdy, volume pedals swelling even at 0, latency issues when 2 rigs are used simultaneously and what not. :| ...i hope they get these fixed soon. It seems that its predecessors are much better, especially in terms of stability and ruggedness.
Anyway, I just tried the XT Live a while ago and was really impressed with the amp/fx presets. I almost thought of buying it until i realized i still have my eyes on the GT-8. You gotta love 'em for their routing/assignment capabilities!
...regardless, the POD looks way cooler! :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: turiguiliano on October 26, 2007, 03:05:20 PM
@ ginblue
masarap pa rin may digi. lalo na ganyan katindi. hehe
@ Pizarro
mismo na yan
@ omen
for now, yes. hehehe. ewan ko alng next year. pero malamang may upselling again ang line 6 on their pod packs for the x3. kung meron.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: markthevirtuoso on October 26, 2007, 09:28:47 PM
But I swear, the size and power of X3 is just unimaginable! 8-)
But I'll wait until they get the issues resolved. Ilalagay ko to sa wishlist ko next year. :-D
Sana mas ma-improve pa nila yung routing and assignments ng X3 - parang GT-8. Tas yung sampling and quantization characteristics ay atleast 96Khz, 24 bit - Ala Zoom G series. Pag nangyari yun... ay sus, ayawan na sa analog to! :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: markthevirtuoso on October 27, 2007, 12:06:00 AM
Oi Chito, may nakita akong Vamp na binebenta ng mura sa classifieds. Banatan mo na! :-D
Tingin ko, mas ok to kesa POD 2.0 na nakita mo. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pansit_habhab on October 27, 2007, 12:31:17 AM
Hey guys, nga pala matagal ko ng gusto tanong ito e, may nakagamit na ba ng RACK MOUNT multieffects sa inyo? pano ba to nagwowork? kasi i saw Butch Victoriano of south border dati using one, midi pedals lang nasa floor nya tapos nakaconnect sya sa rack mounted effects processor, bakit wala ata akong naririnig na gumagamit nito?(hasel lang ba o di maganda tunog o mahal)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: markthevirtuoso on October 27, 2007, 01:53:52 AM
@pansit
I was fortunate enough to help set up Dave Mustaine's rig! This was when his tech was setting up the equipments before Megadeth's performance (I was the production assistant then). The FXs in his rack, though, are rather few. But still, the sound quality is top-notch! And they look cool (and complicated) too! hehe Downsides, however, are: (1) routings can be complicated, (2) they can be very heavy, and (3) they cost an arm and leg.
Regarding multi-fx's in rackmount formats, most of them are just further upgraded versions of the non-rackmount versions. More often than not, they have additional features designed to fit pro studio applications. I think another advantage is in terms durability - i mean you don't get to hurt the main FX unit by having a seperate foot controller to stomp onto instead. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: BAMF on October 27, 2007, 03:48:13 AM
my vote goes for ART XTREME multi. :-) (analog distortions/digital modulations)
...a rare GEM if you can find one :-D
Hey I have one. Selling it for too...or trade with a G2.1 Woops !
Maganda sya, but just not for me. Looking for something else. The modulations are killer tho !
Yeah okay. So what's an analog pedal modder doing looking for a zoom G2 ?
Na-adik talaga ako when I scalarized my 2nd G2.1. Talagang I really have to get my hands on one. I mean, my own personal unit :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on October 27, 2007, 06:12:02 PM
Features of recent multi's have become really astounding. Im very impressed how technology is evolving. ang sarap na sa tenga ng mga effects ngayon gerdemmit!! napakawarm na ng mga tunog... :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: nickoreno on October 29, 2007, 05:01:51 AM
Hey guys, nga pala matagal ko ng gusto tanong ito e, may nakagamit na ba ng RACK MOUNT multieffects sa inyo? pano ba to nagwowork? kasi i saw Butch Victoriano of south border dati using one, midi pedals lang nasa floor nya tapos nakaconnect sya sa rack mounted effects processor, bakit wala ata akong naririnig na gumagamit nito?(hasel lang ba o di maganda tunog o mahal)
uhmm bro hehehe bago lang ako dito eh.. pagkakaalam ko naka midi sya.... inaassign un sa pedal board kung ano gsto mo gawin parang kang naggagawa ng preset sa multi effect kaso nga lang mas maganda un kasi pwede ka magpalit ng isang effects sa isang button lang at wala ka na pipindutin at pipihitin.. un ang pagkakaalam ko hehehe
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on November 03, 2007, 04:52:41 PM
Baka interested po kayo. Just wanna let you know that we have a Bnew Korg AX3000G here at Everymusic that sells for only P 12,500. Drop by na lang po kayo to test it. Thanks guys! :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: vaiaficionado on November 03, 2007, 07:28:36 PM
guys, tanong lang dito. ano pinakatransparent na multi effects unit? gamitin ko lang for modulation and delays.:D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tejadster on November 03, 2007, 07:32:35 PM
Baka interested po kayo. Just wanna let you know that we have a Bnew Korg AX3000G here at Everymusic that sells for only P 12,500. Drop by na lang po kayo to test it. Thanks guys! :-D
astig sana everymusic kung pwede credit card
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: chito_eoi on November 03, 2007, 08:26:46 PM
g2? transparent yun? hahaha. sorry sa disbelief, yung g7 kase, plug mo lang, iba na tunog. hahaha.
the best pa rin ang stomps for you if you want something that wont color you tone. Pag Multi's kasi, definitely me madadagdag sa signal. I'm not even sure if there are multi's with true bypass.
But for me, I enjoy my multi dahil sa modeling. Anyway, kelangan naman kasi talaga sa tugtugan namin yung panggagaya ng tunog (plus it's way cheaper than buying a ton of amps and effects). :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: vaiaficionado on November 03, 2007, 09:35:13 PM
amen to that sir swordplay. hahaha.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on November 04, 2007, 11:57:33 AM
Yung G7 naman, parang di totoong iba tunog pagsaksak palang...actually sa experience ko sa 505, 707, G2.1u, GFX4, KorgAX1500G...sa huli G7 at G2 ang pimakamalapit sa analog na nagamit ko.
:D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: iandomld on November 14, 2007, 09:57:45 PM
Yung G7 naman, parang di totoong iba tunog pagsaksak palang...actually sa experience ko sa 505, 707, G2.1u, GFX4, KorgAX1500G...sa huli G7 at G2 ang pimakamalapit sa analog na nagamit ko.
:D
sir meron ako korg ax1500g..ittrade ko na ba to para sa zoom g7? hehehe. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on November 15, 2007, 12:43:02 AM
it would be a wise investment. the g7 is a good unit. :-)
+10000000
4-5months na yata sa akin ito...last week nahuli ko rin yung hinahanap kong tunog. Syempre medyo natagalan din kasi yung pangarap kong gitara last 2 months lang dumating. Ngayon kada tapos ng tugtugan namin sa church. laging hinihiram ng bahista namin yung gitara ko. tapos sasabihin. ganda talaga ng tone nito. hehehe
every week nakakatyamba ako ng magandang timpla. last week ko lang talaga nahuli...hehehe
Tyagaan lang talaga..
:D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: aparma on November 15, 2007, 10:12:02 AM
on a boring note, they do force you to save up if you want to buy something kaysa utang. damn "spend within your means" and all that jazz
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: iandomld on November 15, 2007, 06:09:59 PM
question about korg ax1500g.. kapag kasi inaadjust ko ung time ng delay, ung values eh lumalaktaw simula sa 180,181,183,187,192.. ganyan ung pagkakasunod sunod.. ganun ba tlga xa? ang hirap kasi magadjust unlike sa zoom na paisa isa tlga.. ung kelangan ko is saktong speed lng..kpg 387, mabilis..ung sunod ay 407 agad.. mabagal nmn xa..help nmn oh.. :-(
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Poundcake on November 15, 2007, 10:43:13 PM
Overkill ka ah, may post ka naman pala dito then gumawa ka pa ng dalawang separate threads about the AX1500G. Flooding isn't allowed here, bro. Deleted your two threads.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: iandomld on November 15, 2007, 10:49:24 PM
paxenxa sir..sorry
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: soundslikebryan on November 16, 2007, 06:14:16 AM
tinatamad na ko mag-scan sa thread. anyway, has anyone tried this
question about korg ax1500g.. kapag kasi inaadjust ko ung time ng delay, ung values eh lumalaktaw simula sa 180,181,183,187,192.. ganyan ung pagkakasunod sunod.. ganun ba tlga xa? ang hirap kasi magadjust unlike sa zoom na paisa isa tlga.. ung kelangan ko is saktong speed lng..kpg 387, mabilis..ung sunod ay 407 agad.. mabagal nmn xa..help nmn oh.. :-(
use the "tap tempo delay" option amigo!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: foom on November 19, 2007, 11:26:32 PM
Guys, what can you say about pod xt live and/or toneworks ax 1500/3000? I'm planning to buy one of these... Thanks!!! :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Poundcake on November 19, 2007, 11:37:21 PM
I'm thinking of buying it this post Thanksgiving week sale.
I own a POD X3 Live. I used it straight out of the box at one of our usual spots. All I can say is, I sounded bad. Pati sound tech namin pinagtripan ako because my tone was so bad that night. Yun pala naka-DI mode sya, hindi amp out mode :lol:
The default patches don't sound particularly great but I have already cooked up some good-sounding and very usable custom patches. It performs well overall especially during "no amp" or "crappy amp" situations. It's considerably better than the POD XT Live :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: fade2black0520 on November 19, 2007, 11:51:37 PM
the zoom g2.1u is a good training tool, IMO. the unit could have its shortcomings tonewise but man, you can have a full virtual rig inside your room! the drum patterns are usable for riff/lead practicing. i a live setting, you should have to tweak your settings carefully to cut in the mix.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: sidlead66 on November 20, 2007, 08:10:07 AM
Guys, what can you say about pod xt live and/or toneworks ax 1500/3000? I'm planning to buy one of these... Thanks!!! :-D
go for the podxt kung madami kang pagpipiliang amp models.. go with the ax3000g kung gusto mo ng fx... di ko lam kung me delay sa patch switch yung podxt.. pero yung ax3000g yun talaga ang nakakairita... not unlike sa older boss gt's :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tackielarla on November 20, 2007, 09:58:52 AM
Has anyone used a G2.1u straight to the mixer? Anong result?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: changedmynametojimi on November 21, 2007, 08:50:05 AM
mga sir....comments naman or feedbacks....
planning to get one of these
ax1500g rp250 g2.1u
ano dabest?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ginblue on November 21, 2007, 09:13:15 AM
I own a POD X3 Live. I used it straight out of the box at one of our usual spots. All I can say is, I sounded bad. Pati sound tech namin pinagtripan ako because my tone was so bad that night. Yun pala naka-DI mode sya, hindi amp out mode :lol:
The default patches don't sound particularly great but I have already cooked up some good-sounding and very usable custom patches. It performs well overall especially during "no amp" or "crappy amp" situations. It's considerably better than the POD XT Live :)
hahahhaa kala ko panget yung X3 live naka DI mode naman pala hehhehe. sana dumating na rin yung akin :evil:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: rone12 on November 21, 2007, 01:14:28 PM
me too mga sirs.....i'm planning to buy one of these two:
ax1500g and zoom g2.1u....
ano po sa dalawa ang mas maganda ang pedal wah effect....? and magkano na po ba yung ax1500g na brand new ngayon? hope someone replies to my questions.... :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: teleclem on November 21, 2007, 01:28:18 PM
against the zoom, i'd get the korg.. ewan, pero di ko talaga nagustuhan yung zoom ehh.. tried hard getting something nice out of it.. nonetheless, bandmate uses one..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: rone12 on November 21, 2007, 02:34:58 PM
against the zoom, i'd get the korg.. ewan, pero di ko talaga nagustuhan yung zoom ehh.. tried hard getting something nice out of it.. nonetheless, bandmate uses one..
ok sir...any ideas po kung magkano na po ngayon ang korg ax1500g?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: teleclem on November 21, 2007, 05:48:28 PM
brand new nung 3000 model nasa mga 13k (?) sa everymusic ah. i guess less than that..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: iandomld on November 21, 2007, 06:33:17 PM
9.8k ung ax1500g sa audiophile.. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: bendedbeam on November 21, 2007, 10:19:37 PM
Mga kapwa gitarista, question lang...
Nagjam kami 1 time sa studio sa may makati, basta fender tube amp yung gamit eh. Naka Boss ME-33 ako, tapos naka Boss power adapter din ako. Ang pinagtataka ko lang eh after siguro mga 10 mins biglang nag-iba yung tunog. Parang naging ngongo at nawalan ng treble, we tried to replug the cables and played around with the knobs of the amp and the sound came back but after around 2 mins same thing happened. I've been using this multi-effect with my MG50 at any volume setting and I didn't encounter any problem at all. Have you heard of this case? Is there really an "incompatibility" when it comes to multi-effects and amps?
Thanks thanks...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pings15 on November 22, 2007, 04:26:49 PM
any reviews on the GFX4?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: sidlead66 on November 22, 2007, 08:28:08 PM
Nagjam kami 1 time sa studio sa may makati, basta fender tube amp yung gamit eh. Naka Boss ME-33 ako, tapos naka Boss power adapter din ako. Ang pinagtataka ko lang eh after siguro mga 10 mins biglang nag-iba yung tunog. Parang naging ngongo at nawalan ng treble, we tried to replug the cables and played around with the knobs of the amp and the sound came back but after around 2 mins same thing happened. I've been using this multi-effect with my MG50 at any volume setting and I didn't encounter any problem at all. Have you heard of this case? Is there really an "incompatibility" when it comes to multi-effects and amps?
Thanks thanks...
ei sidlead66 here... and for God's sake yan din ang nangyari sa Me-33 ko way back... kaso nadead talaga ang IC nya kaya nawasted... sakin naman pag malakas output ng gitara to Fx e nagtutunog ROBOT... as in... ROBOTix na tunog na LOWBAT... hai... anyways sau naman eh baka incompatibility lang... pero siguro gud naman na din... Peace!!!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on November 23, 2007, 04:46:24 AM
Nagjam kami 1 time sa studio sa may makati, basta fender tube amp yung gamit eh. Naka Boss ME-33 ako, tapos naka Boss power adapter din ako. Ang pinagtataka ko lang eh after siguro mga 10 mins biglang nag-iba yung tunog. Parang naging ngongo at nawalan ng treble, we tried to replug the cables and played around with the knobs of the amp and the sound came back but after around 2 mins same thing happened. I've been using this multi-effect with my MG50 at any volume setting and I didn't encounter any problem at all. Have you heard of this case? Is there really an "incompatibility" when it comes to multi-effects and amps?
Thanks thanks...
Could be a busted amp. this usually happens pag nasira ang tubo. the ME-33 is very reliable (unless mabasa of course). Nice and crisp ang effects. :-)
GT series effects are great too. Noel Mendez used a GT-3 last Saturday when we fronted for Rachel ann Wolf (Pero naka- Parker fly classic sya :-D). He was very nice to offer me use of his effect (para di na siguro magalaw settings nya :-)) but I had to decline kasi maninibago ako. Sabi ko na lang di ko na gagalawin yung amp. Pero pag nagpatunog, wawawaw! It's all in the timpla. Actually, bago ko naayos settings ko, I had to try out different amps with the MFX para mahuli ko yung mga tunog ng amp. Generally, marshalls are known to be a little muddy or ngongo and fenders are mostly bright (I find that I have a liking for open back amps. they sound looser that way). transistor amps also have different characters. most Line 6 amps I've tried have sharp highs so watch out. also, try toying around with the output settings of your effects. there is a huge difference. Kung naka direct box, use direct output para ma timpla mo ang tunog mo just in case hindi ganun ka ok pumihit yung tech. Even though I go through amps first (and have them mic'd), I still have my settings on Direct output. I find that everything sounds clearer that way. Plus, I still have a chance of changing global settings just in case things sound wrong on the mixing side. :-) I hope this helps peepz who have just begun using MFX. Mabuhay ang MFX users! Yipeeee!!! :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Mardk on March 31, 2008, 11:55:11 PM
Any ax3000g users out there that want to share patches?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: rad_12 on April 01, 2008, 12:40:05 AM
sir bended baka hindi nga compatible yung MFX mo sa amp, nangyari na rin sa'kin yan sa g2 ko , wala kasi akong amp sa bahay na malaki i usually use my 5W mini-amp na samick lang for practicing, kaya pagdating ko sa studio or gig adjust ko EQ ng g2 ko and yung sa amp. minsan kasi may binabagyan din yung gamit natin. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lickers on April 01, 2008, 07:23:13 PM
Ano kaya ang mabili BOSS GT-8 or GT-10 :? paki tulungan naman po ako tnx. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tejadster on April 01, 2008, 09:13:35 PM
i mean sir pareho lang po ba sila, looks lang po ba ang nagbago? sounds the same.. pasencya na po wala po kasi akong alam :lol:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BOSGT10
hmmm, kuntento na ko sa GT8 ko pero ok din yang GT10 siyempre! :wink:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: aparma on April 08, 2008, 08:11:07 AM
has anybody tried the rocktron utopia? they just released the g300, looks very tempting.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: champoi on April 08, 2008, 11:43:00 AM
im using boss gt-3. ok naman siya. mala anaolg ang dating niya. im having trouble though sa timplahan, kasi nasanay ako sa mga zoom mfx na madaling kalikutin. boss mfx kasi has a wider parameters compare to zoom.
anybody using gt-3 pa share naman ng settings ninyo on the ff.: acoustic, chorus with delay, cho with wah, metal zone, dist, with and without delay. salamat po.
hope someday i can have gt-8 or 10. pangarap lang.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tapslore on April 08, 2008, 03:27:51 PM
no love for the vox tonelab le?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jj20 on April 10, 2008, 03:42:10 PM
mga sir, any suggestions sa ax5g ko? sayang kc instead of selling it baka may ibang purpose pa cya.. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: funkmaestro on April 15, 2008, 08:23:57 PM
Di daw pwedeng pagsabayin ung OD/amp modellers with wah sa Tonelab Le? Imposible!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on April 15, 2008, 09:43:29 PM
That's not accurate.
First two modules of the Tonelab LE are the Pedal models and the Amp models. The Wah models are part of the former, along with the dirtbox models. So ayun, hindi puwede magsabay ang wah at dirtboxes. But since the amp models are in a separate module, puwede siya isabay with a wah or i-cascade with a dirtbox.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on April 17, 2008, 08:00:11 PM
korek sir Al. and since me models ng OD Channel ng mga amp, pwede ka pa rin magkaroon ng wah and high gain.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tapslore on April 17, 2008, 08:55:58 PM
korek sir Al. and since me models ng OD Channel ng mga amp, pwede ka pa rin magkaroon ng wah and high gain.
+1
still, the main reason you get a tonelab is for the amp models. you can always put your favorite wah in front with no problems (most wah users i know stick with their wah no matter what rig they have in front of them - although the wah in the tonelab is a faithful copy of the Clyde vox wah, pretty good traditional wah sound).
how many tonelab users are there in guitar central anyway? :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: domengshu on April 18, 2008, 10:52:27 AM
I have a Zoom GFX3 which I now rarely use because I switched to analog stompboxes. I don't want to let go of this because I like the modulations and delay/reverb effects. Now I'm thinking I bring this to sir Ricky, have this modded and then add to my FX chain. My worry is that the volume, tone-sucking and digital problems of the GFX might still be present even in bypass mode after the mod.
For those who have already modded their GFXs (any series) was the tone-sucking problem resolved? And did the GFX have a true-bypass feel after the mod? Was the volume controlled?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on April 18, 2008, 07:24:45 PM
any gnx4 user here?? :? share some patches :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pings15 on April 18, 2008, 11:25:08 PM
a question for MFX users:
been researching alot.. and been thinking of getting an MFX becaues of its features, and price.. but a friend of mine opened up my mind.....he told me this,,,,..... here is one scenario, you are gigging, and all your patches are all set.. but then, as a gigging musician you'll go through many types of amps, many kinds of crappy, tubed, decent amps.. each with different sounds, now tell me if you experience this, how do you cope with it sa settings nyo? what of yung amp modeller nyo?.. do you go through all the needed patches and edit them away..parang ang liit lng ng time gap after ng soundcheck nyo to tweak...?...
plus ano un labas ng MFX+ALL tube amp?.. ok naman ba?... what of AMP MODELER+TUBE AMP?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on April 19, 2008, 04:13:06 PM
you can always go to global settings. most effects have a 3 band or more EQ in there where you can adjust your mfx patches in one go. you don't have to set them up one by one.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: luin_theblue on April 19, 2008, 08:33:05 PM
Those "crappy, tubed, decent amps... each with different sounds" have their own built in eqs as well. :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: luin_theblue on April 19, 2008, 08:52:23 PM
I have a Zoom GFX3 which I now rarely use because I switched to analog stompboxes. I don't want to let go of this because I like the modulations and delay/reverb effects. Now I'm thinking I bring this to sir Ricky, have this modded and then add to my FX chain. My worry is that the volume, tone-sucking and digital problems of the GFX might still be present even in bypass mode after the mod.
For those who have already modded their GFXs (any series) was the tone-sucking problem resolved? And did the GFX have a true-bypass feel after the mod? Was the volume controlled?
This ain't a solution but what I do is set my g2.1u with clean to light overdrive patches (with no comp or booster) so that I can use it as an amp simulator for the wah and analog pedals (comp, drive/booster, main drive) to go through. Plus I use the modulations, eq, and extra eq/ mic sim... gets?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: luin_theblue on April 19, 2008, 08:58:18 PM
In addition to my earlier post, I use an external exp. pedal for volume and use the built-in exp pedal to kick in and level my delay.
with my g2.1u. Loved it. Talk about waaaaaaaarm and rouuuuuund and niiiiiice. :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tapslore on April 19, 2008, 10:13:51 PM
luin's right, most multi-effects have universal settings that allow you to quickly tweak your output/eq to match the amp. for example the tonelab le has 5 universal settings (amp1 for fender-type amps, amp2 for marshall type amps, amp3 for head/cab, line1 for direct to PA/mixing board, line2 - direct to PA w/ eq). just hit a switch, twist a knob, and find a sound that works.
as for tube amps, s.o.p. is the same whether using multi-effects or pedals: get a good clean tone by lowering gain, and let the effects handle the gain/distortion.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: luin_theblue on April 19, 2008, 10:19:31 PM
Hehe. That was swordplay not me.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tapslore on April 19, 2008, 10:48:01 PM
oh yeah. sorry :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on April 20, 2008, 10:00:46 AM
been researching alot.. and been thinking of getting an MFX becaues of its features, and price.. but a friend of mine opened up my mind.....he told me this,,,,..... here is one scenario, you are gigging, and all your patches are all set.. but then, as a gigging musician you'll go through many types of amps, many kinds of crappy, tubed, decent amps.. each with different sounds, now tell me if you experience this, how do you cope with it sa settings nyo? what of yung amp modeller nyo?.. do you go through all the needed patches and edit them away..parang ang liit lng ng time gap after ng soundcheck nyo to tweak...?...
plus ano un labas ng MFX+ALL tube amp?.. ok naman ba?... what of AMP MODELER+TUBE AMP?
there are quite a few ways to go about this. the others have already explained one.
another technique is to plug directly to the effects loop return if your amp has it. it works wonders for something like a POD XTLive. this is in fact the principle applied in Atomic amps and Line 6 Spider Valves.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ETM(PHILS) on May 04, 2008, 10:13:36 AM
anyone using Line 6 POCKET POD? any review or comment.... ok ba sya sa recording? Thanks
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: sikheadzraf on September 02, 2008, 02:59:29 PM
any reviews for korg ax5g ?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on September 02, 2008, 04:47:56 PM
it's arguably the best unit in its class. at least that's what i think.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: chadrobles on September 02, 2008, 05:12:06 PM
it's arguably the best unit in its class. at least that's what i think.
:-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Letour on September 02, 2008, 05:17:03 PM
Noob moment.
I have 2 units, the Digitech RP3 and the Zoom G2.1u. The RP3 is great for gigs because of its 5 buttons. Plus, I can turn on/off up to 3 effects on 1 preset. It has a strong case and its color is an obvious yellow. Always a conversation piece. Quite rare this pedal is.
The Zoom is great for amp modeling but limited by its picky selection for power supply (even though standard 9VDC input) and limited to 2 buttons.
Both have lousy wah. But I can't be choosy. Between the two, I would gig with the RP3 and record with the Zoom (as if... :lol:)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kell on September 03, 2008, 12:31:30 AM
Just got my new Zoom G7.1ut.
ganda ng tunog, malayo sa dati kong zoom 3030.. hehehe
rock-solid metal body, nice heavy duty buttons and pedal.
sa sound... ayus na ayus. worth spending bucks. hehe.
ang daming modeling amps na pwedeng pag experementohan. wlang alteration sa sound ng guitar pag bypass.
kung wala kayong pambili ng stompboxes, ayus ang G7.1.
anyway.. its my opinion lang naman po. ^_^
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on September 03, 2008, 12:45:28 AM
may "alteration" yan if you listen hard enough. but since it takes some effort to notice, it probably doesn't matter.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: beejaysoul on September 04, 2008, 12:35:14 AM
hehehe tanong ko lng... hahaha Anu msasabi nio sa zoom 606?? ok ba to?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: zeero on September 04, 2008, 03:18:05 AM
anyone here owns a Lin6 POD XTLive? Any reviews on that? :-D Thanks!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: zeero on September 04, 2008, 03:21:19 AM
ganda ng tunog, malayo sa dati kong zoom 3030.. hehehe
rock-solid metal body, nice heavy duty buttons and pedal.
sa sound... ayus na ayus. worth spending bucks. hehe.
ang daming modeling amps na pwedeng pag experementohan. wlang alteration sa sound ng guitar pag bypass.
kung wala kayong pambili ng stompboxes, ayus ang G7.1.
anyway.. its my opinion lang naman po. ^_^
Congratz bro! ganda talaga yan...yan din gamit ko ngayon... :D
Quote
better na mag g2.1u ka nalang bro.. bagal ng response time ng 606 in switching patches. 606 gamit ko dati hehe
+1
I use to have one too! :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: sikheadzraf on September 04, 2008, 02:08:41 PM
any korg ax5g users here? :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Poundcake on September 04, 2008, 02:47:54 PM
I miss using multi-effects units. They're very easy to use and they have a bunch of bells and whistles. If only boutique pedals didn't sound that good...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: beejaysoul on September 04, 2008, 11:49:47 PM
ganun ba hehehe. ty. pero nu msasabi nio sa mixing ng 606. ok ba to pang gig/pwesto?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on September 05, 2008, 08:59:07 AM
mag G2.1u ka nalang dude... :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: simon_divitico on September 05, 2008, 05:13:00 PM
Matagal din akong na-stick sa multi, medyo nabigyan ko na nga ng streotypical idea ang multi at analog peds eh (Multi for showbands, analog peds for rock and rollers and rockers) :-D
Iba kasi ang convenience ng multi kapag magsiswitch from 1 patch to another, na practically may parehong config. ng drive, mod.,delay etc. pero iba ang settings, isang tapakan lang.
Unlike kapag analog, yuyuko ka pa at ituturn ang knobs sa desired config., not so ideal para sa guitarists na papalit palit ng tunog :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ierofan on September 07, 2008, 10:25:08 AM
what about the ME-50??
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: aparma on September 07, 2008, 05:14:27 PM
anybody get to try the rocktron g300 yet?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ETM(PHILS) on September 07, 2008, 10:31:30 PM
tsong may binebenta ako!!! For sale Roland GP 8 Rack mount effects. 13,000 php not negotiable 8 true analog effects. Dynamic Filter Compressor/Sustainer Turbo Overdrive Distortion Phaser Equalizer Digital Delay Digital Chorus
Effects can be controlled by an expression pedal Specifications: Midi in and out Send and return Line in and out Mono and stereo out 2 inputs rear and back rrc 6 pin rrc and midi selector warning 110 volts japan
Roland FC 100 foot controller 8 banks A/B channel selector control bank. Specs: mode selector tuner out rrc in expression pedal input ===================================== For sale Washburn X-series 7,000 php not negotiable Seymour-duncan Humbucker (bridge) Stock Washburn pick up (middle) Seymour-duncan duckbucker (neck) 24 frets metallic blue 3 way switch (Bridge. middle, bridge - neck) bolt on neck
sir wrong post po kayo :-D
may classified section po tayo... read the guidelines pls... salamat
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Parsabbaluca on September 08, 2008, 02:07:36 AM
Oops!!! Sori sir, newbie kac aq.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: stringman on September 08, 2008, 04:55:59 AM
Taga na niyang GP8 na yan ah! I remember having one of this back then nagamit ko sa San Miguel Battle of the Bands 1994 yata.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: sikheadzraf on September 09, 2008, 12:05:56 AM
KORG USERS?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: beejaysoul on September 12, 2008, 11:56:48 PM
huhu. tanong lng ulet pde ko ba icombine ung mga zoom units(example: 707II, 606, G1x, G2.i) sa EQ na Boston engineering??
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: angeloesteban14 on September 13, 2008, 06:25:47 AM
I'm a happy line 6 pod xt live user, endless possibility of tones, sounds great through amps, just have to really understand the manual. I had to read the manual thoughroughly because when i first got the unit i just plugged and played, it sounded like crap. The manual showed when using amps you gotta do this, or if you are going direct you gotta do something else.
sir ano sa tingin nyo mas ok, gt8 o yang pod xt live?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on September 13, 2008, 12:58:25 PM
depends on your needs.
compared to the GT-8, the XT Live is a more accessible recording machine (thanks to USB support and the Gearbox software). the XT Live also has a better pallette of amp and cabinet simulations and it might still continue to grow as Line 6 continues to support the device with different sorts of upgrades. but if you want better control of effects and the signal chain, the GT-8 is the way to go. it can be a tweaker's dream.
people are free to contest. but the way i see it, the XT Live is an amp and cab sim platform that happens to have other effects and geared very much towards USB recording. while the GT-8 is skewed more towards being a true effects platform.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paolo_axentro on September 13, 2008, 01:09:35 PM
compared to the GT-8, the XT Live is a more accessible recording machine (thanks to USB support and the Gearbox software). the XT Live also has a better pallette of amp and cabinet simulations and it might still continue to grow as Line 6 continues to support the device with different sorts of upgrades. but if you want better control of effects and the signal chain, the GT-8 is the way to go. it can be a tweaker's dream.
people are free to contest. but the way i see it, the XT Live is an amp and cab sim platform that happens to have other effects and geared very much towards USB recording. while the GT-8 is skewed more towards being a true effects platform.
kung pang live gig sir?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on September 13, 2008, 01:55:14 PM
kadalasan ba pagmatagal na un multi nagkaroon ng defects? like on-off vice-versa? :?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paolo_axentro on September 13, 2008, 02:04:26 PM
kadalasan ba pagmatagal na un multi nagkaroon ng defects? like on-off vice-versa? :?
imo, depende siguro sa pag gamit mo, at depende sa quality ng gamit mong multi.
pwede din madaming alikabok sa stage :-D ganyan nangyari sa 1 multi ko, hindi ko na kasi inaalis sa stage noon, para saksak nalang pag tugtug na. pinasok ng alikabok hehehe.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on September 13, 2008, 02:19:48 PM
imo, depende siguro sa pag gamit mo, at depende sa quality ng gamit mong multi.
pwede din madaming alikabok sa stage :-D ganyan nangyari sa 1 multi ko, hindi ko na kasi inaalis sa stage noon, para saksak nalang pag tugtug na. pinasok ng alikabok hehehe.
pagkatapos mangyari un anun ginawa nyo? :? pinarepair nyo pa ba??
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on September 13, 2008, 07:50:05 PM
ive heard BOSS ME series...
they say ,the GT series are better, well ive never tried one...
ME series is noisy :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: xtopher23 on September 13, 2008, 09:29:36 PM
madami nag sabi hindi daw masyado magkalayo ang tunog. pero hindi pa ko nakakagamit ng gt10. hindi ko alam sir. :-D tingin ko lang kung sa tibay ang pagbabasihan parang mas matibay ang 8' kaysa sa 10' imo lang po.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: xtopher23 on September 15, 2008, 05:22:20 PM
linis lang ginawa ko, siguro matibay yung multi ko. :-D
yup matibay un mga multi :-D ok na un multi ko which pinarepair ko kay mang raul :-D ayus! tapos agad un gawa niya sa multi ko, un tinanong ko si mang raul kung lahat ng multi ay may ganun symptoms na on and off vice versa. ang sabi niya ay oo kasi lahat ng multi ay iba ang circuit niya compared to analog na mas matagal interms of durabilitity ng external at internal components :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Angst_Ridden on September 17, 2008, 03:06:16 AM
How bout if we compare a Boss-GT6 and a Boss GT-8? Is there a really big difference sa basic sound nya like distortion, delay, chorus, phaser, wah and the like? or are they just the same pro may mga added features lng yung GT-8? I've never had any experience with using a multi-effect kc. Actually Im a drummer but have started to play guitars for our band. Im planning to buy a boss GT-6 but If I have the money, I'll go for a GT-8. kaso lang mga 4-6K yung difference nya. And that 4-6K can already be used to upgrade my guitar. What do you think? :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on September 17, 2008, 07:31:50 AM
How bout if we compare a Boss-GT6 and a Boss GT-8? Is there a really big difference sa basic sound nya like distortion, delay, chorus, phaser, wah and the like? or are they just the same pro may mga added features lng yung GT-8? I've never had any experience with using a multi-effect kc. Actually Im a drummer but have started to play guitars for our band. Im planning to buy a boss GT-6 but If I have the money, I'll go for a GT-8. kaso lang mga 4-6K yung difference nya. And that 4-6K can already be used to upgrade my guitar. What do you think? :-)
kung sakin upgrade nalang muna ako ng guitar, :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on September 17, 2008, 10:56:09 AM
onga
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paolo_axentro on September 17, 2008, 12:44:51 PM
How bout if we compare a Boss-GT6 and a Boss GT-8? Is there a really big difference sa basic sound nya like distortion, delay, chorus, phaser, wah and the like? or are they just the same pro may mga added features lng yung GT-8? I've never had any experience with using a multi-effect kc. Actually Im a drummer but have started to play guitars for our band. Im planning to buy a boss GT-6 but If I have the money, I'll go for a GT-8. kaso lang mga 4-6K yung difference nya. And that 4-6K can already be used to upgrade my guitar. What do you think? :-)
may mga nadagdag lang sa gt8. pero ayus gt6. konti lang naman nadagdag sa gt8.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Angst_Ridden on September 17, 2008, 11:02:31 PM
Thanks sa mga nagreply. :-) And about sa guitar upgrade, later nlng cguro. More on physical/cosmetic upgrade lng kc. Save up nlng muna ako for a GT-8...or maybe a Boss ME-50 will suffice? Anyway, tnx :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jamming_papu on September 18, 2008, 02:28:39 AM
ok pala ang Korg AX1500g sa acoustic guitar. sinubukan ko sa SXDG25 ko. swabe.... :-D nagulat sa tone na pwedeng gawin.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: calculon on September 18, 2008, 10:36:28 AM
kadalasan ba pagmatagal na un multi nagkaroon ng defects? like on-off vice-versa? :?
Five years na AX1500G ko isang beses ko plang pinagawa. Yung mga apakan nupudpud daw kasi madiin pag apak ko. Iba nadin yung power supply ngyon pero diko alam kung bakit nasira yung original power supply.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: deadlifted on September 20, 2008, 02:16:41 AM
naga-GAS ako sa Line6 M13!!! ang sarap siguro magkaron nun!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jiu-jitsu brasileiro on September 20, 2008, 09:57:46 AM
I heard that may parang switch issues ang X3, na their switches tend to come of or fall off???
i haven't tried the x3 pro floor pod. yun cguro yung may switch issues. wala naman ako problem sa x3 pod pro (rackmount). i'm using my line6 floorboard controller to control the x3 pod pro.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: william251082 on September 21, 2008, 01:06:21 PM
compared to the GT-8, the XT Live is a more accessible recording machine (thanks to USB support and the Gearbox software). the XT Live also has a better pallette of amp and cabinet simulations and it might still continue to grow as Line 6 continues to support the device with different sorts of upgrades. but if you want better control of effects and the signal chain, the GT-8 is the way to go. it can be a tweaker's dream.
people are free to contest. but the way i see it, the XT Live is an amp and cab sim platform that happens to have other effects and geared very much towards USB recording. while the GT-8 is skewed more towards being a true effects platform.
tend to agree. ever since, yan din ang dinig ko.
XTL = the most features and the best for recording GT8 = great as true multi-effects box Tonelab = most realistic, warm, analog/tube-sounding. has the best FEEL.
i might get a Tonelab soon (an LE naman this time).
here's a question though: WHO ACTUALLY GIGS REGULARLY WITH THEIR MODELERS? have you tried others to compare?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: mikeeboy on October 17, 2008, 11:34:03 PM
bought the tonelab LE a few weeks ago, great tone feel, so what they say was true :-D what i like about is how it cleans up rolling your volume knob down, just like a tube amp in which i prefer rather than switching to a clean tone patch
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pizarro84 on October 18, 2008, 03:21:04 AM
Sakit sa mata ng display ng GT10, sarap papalitan ng orange nung backlight :-P pinalitan pa kasi color scheme eh.. wala lang comment lang po :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kinko on October 18, 2008, 04:22:56 AM
meron ako yung old school naa ibanez guitar multi processor. with tube screamer. hihi. worth it!! dig nyo PT3 DX. old skul rock!!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: blues2death on October 18, 2008, 05:15:33 AM
i might get a Tonelab soon (an LE naman this time).
hey joric, what's difference between the LE and earlier models? i'm thinking of getting one myself. I am currently using an XTL for top 40 gigs and recording, but i wanna get an LE so i can leave that in vegas. Ang hirap magbitbit sa greyhound eh.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on October 24, 2008, 01:43:39 AM
I got a Pod XT Live from a trade. Sobrang solve. Ganda pa sa amp. Basta basahin mo lang sa manual kung paano iset-up!!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: deltaslim on October 24, 2008, 09:51:30 AM
hey joric, what's difference between the LE and earlier models? i'm thinking of getting one myself. I am currently using an XTL for top 40 gigs and recording, but i wanna get an LE so i can leave that in vegas. Ang hirap magbitbit sa greyhound eh.
jon - sorry for late reply...
i hear the LE has more processing power, obviously one less pedal, but more importantly better output tweaking options -- whether for amp, powered speaker/monitor or PA. there are more options on selecting the output type and can tap into an eq to adjust for the mix, room, etc.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: skrumian on October 24, 2008, 10:17:25 AM
sir, magkano score nyo? =D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: zero711 on October 24, 2008, 10:39:25 AM
Just recently got a Boss Me-33 via trade. I'm using a hybrid setup, connecting the Me-33 to a Boss DD3, A Sansamp Clone and a Boss SD1.
Read through the forums that the multieffects sucks down the tone of the analog pedals which is true. Confirmed it by using the bypass function of the Me-33 and comparing the bypass tone to the hybrid tone.
So in order to fix the situation, i used the EQ effect of the Me-33 and tweaked the EQ settings to bring back the lost tone which was sucked by the ME-33 and VIOLA! as if i was using straight analog pedals.
Modulations are really good, im currently using the delay, phaser, chorus and flanger modulations, sounded really solid. Distortion and The Amp Simulator sucked as hell.
Took me time to figure out the thing but once you got it, its like your bringing 4 stomp boxes with you.
Haven't tried it out at gigs but as of now, i'm really loving the Boss ME-33, really a good buy!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lykenhowl on October 24, 2008, 04:18:00 PM
Habol ko lang sa Multi is yung amp and cab modelling and yung effects then analog peds na all the way. Great thing bout modellers is that it does wonders to small amps and malaki talaga pagbabago sa sound. Wanna get the Tonelab LE rin kaso hampaslupa pa rin ako sa ngayon bwahaha!!!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: fenderfanatic on October 26, 2008, 03:12:08 PM
Hello everyone! 1 post ko dito :-D I had my share of MFX last one was a AX1000G which I sold last month.
Now I'm looking at the M-Audio Black Box, any feedback from this unit?
Dami ko tuloy na-discover dito like the Zoom G7-G9 and Tonelabs.
TIA!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ispaks on October 26, 2008, 05:56:36 PM
Got a Boss GT-10 yesterday! So far so good! :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ghostalker on October 26, 2008, 06:30:08 PM
meron ba multi na you can tap your delay on the fly? example we've just a song, and the next one needs a delay that should be sync to the temp0.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on October 26, 2008, 08:09:03 PM
you mean tap tempo? lahat na yata ng mga bagong major models meron niyan.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ghostalker on October 26, 2008, 10:02:17 PM
you mean tap tempo? lahat na yata ng mga bagong major models meron niyan.
thanks for the answer
yung ease of use po ba ay gaya ng isang stompbox delay like yung boston Delay (a dd6 clone). yung hindi na kailangan ba mag pihit ng maraming knobs to go to tap tempo mode.
because I am thinking of going back to multi; a quite GOOD multi.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: redjaztin on October 27, 2008, 11:34:20 AM
yung ease of use po ba ay gaya ng isang stompbox delay like yung boston Delay (a dd6 clone). yung hindi na kailangan ba mag pihit ng maraming knobs to go to tap tempo mode.
because I am thinking of going back to multi; a quite GOOD multi.
very useful talaga sa akin ang tap delay/delay tap sa Zoom G7 ko sa church. Sundan ko lang tempo ng drummer namin ok na. wala ng pihit phit. :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lestervai on October 27, 2008, 05:08:48 PM
maganda po ba ME-20 sir?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on October 27, 2008, 07:48:15 PM
yung ease of use po ba ay gaya ng isang stompbox delay like yung boston Delay (a dd6 clone). yung hindi na kailangan ba mag pihit ng maraming knobs to go to tap tempo mode.
because I am thinking of going back to multi; a quite GOOD multi.
i can only speak for the Korg AX3000G and Line 6 POD XT Live. medyo madali lang in both cases. i haven't quite figured it out in the Boss GT-10 yet. mamaya siguro pag sinipag ako magbutingting. hehehe.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ghostalker on October 28, 2008, 10:53:12 AM
i can only speak for the Korg AX3000G and Line 6 POD XT Live. medyo madali lang in both cases. i haven't quite figured it out in the Boss GT-10 yet. mamaya siguro pag sinipag ako magbutingting. hehehe.
thanks din po sa info
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on November 01, 2008, 08:21:00 PM
ganda talaga G9. Madali lang din naman yung sa Boss. sa umpisa lang naman hassle. :-D
ohh?? kasi unang tingin ku lang sa GT-8 nun parang robot na hirap itweak..hehehe
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jun_gats on November 05, 2008, 11:58:58 AM
guys baka matulungan ninyo ako. i haven't tried these multi effects yet kaya wondering ako. TC electronics G System at Nova System. I have heard and tested alot of Multi effects before pero hindi ko makuha yung gus2 kong tunog. Alam ko madaming factors like guitar at amp. Pero bukod dun bago ako mapunta sa amp ito ang gusto kong malaman. Maganda ang mga analog pero wala dun yung versatility na hinahanap ko.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: swordplay on November 05, 2008, 12:23:41 PM
ohh?? kasi unang tingin ku lang sa GT-8 nun parang robot na hirap itweak..hehehe
hehe. onga, nakakashock talaga sa una kc dami parameters. :-D pero pag nakagawa ka na naman ng dalawa o tatlong patch, copy and write na lang naman. tapos konting timpla na lang. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Kclan on November 05, 2008, 12:42:24 PM
nasa taste din kasi ng gumagamit. di pa ako nakatry ng line6 x3 live. pero ganda ng soundclip nya. Boss user ako talaga dati pa. pero now ng Zoom GFX-3 ako, miss ko rin yung tunog ng ME-10 ko dati.
nasa preference din kasi ng gitarista kung ano ang gusto nya tunog, o kung pano siya magpatunog. :-D
:mrgreen:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lestervai on November 05, 2008, 12:56:09 PM
pero i think GT8 is one of must have's na multifX... or maybe GT10 boss rocks!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jun_gats on November 05, 2008, 12:59:23 PM
pero nasubukan nyo na bang i mix ang multi at analog? try nyo kayang kunin yung dirty pedals ninyo sa multi effects nyo at yung modulation sa multi effects.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lestervai on November 05, 2008, 01:03:49 PM
may ibang gumagawa nun dito.. parang yung G2 dahil mejo manipis ang distortion. nagaadd ng mga pedals para kumapal. yung mga ganun......
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jun_gats on November 05, 2008, 01:22:46 PM
tama yun nga ang gus2 kong maachive. pwede ito kunyari gagamit ka ng ls2 para mamix or amp loop fx. pero kapag direkta hindi sya pwede.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: angeloesteban14 on November 05, 2008, 07:02:22 PM
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ghostalker on November 05, 2008, 08:03:32 PM
@ about multi+analog
old setup ko. (http://photos-048.friendster.com/e1/photos/84/06/28816048/1_312093589l.jpg)
-=-=-=-==-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=- ngayon wala na si G2 guiar -> TU -> badmonkey -> boston dd100 -> volume -> amp
ok naman ako sa pagbabago, I need a dedicated digital delay(low budget) talaga, and I'm not into high gain, so ok na si bad monkey.
Right now I'm torn between: •mag-ipon for another set of pedals or •mag-ipon for a better multi (like vox tonelab or pod xt)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: dudeofdude on November 05, 2008, 08:21:29 PM
dati i gave up on analogs b/c they're so expensive. now im using zoom g2.1u and i realized my need for the specific natural tone. the g2.1u is great, but i deeply regret selling some of my analogs. now im saving up for analogs ulit :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: nickoreno on November 06, 2008, 12:47:27 PM
meron na ba dito gumagamit ng digitech rp500??
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: reycantong on November 06, 2008, 01:10:18 PM
I've been using my Line6 Vetta combo for years now. No problems with the multifx so far.
But now that I recently got a Peavey JSX amp and Peavey triple x 4x12 cab, I'm trying to incorporate analog and digital. I'm using the JSX's Clean, Crunch and Ultra channels with my Line6 PODxt Pro in the "effects send/return" for fx only (delay, chorus, reverb etc.). It's been great so far.
I just want my beloved Vetta to rest for now :-D.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: skrumian on November 06, 2008, 01:51:55 PM
ano masusuggest nyo na multieffects na hindi amp modeller? mala Boss ME50 pero yung puede isaksak sa pc for recording at may effects loop. Meron bang ganito? thanks.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on November 06, 2008, 04:44:16 PM
ano masusuggest nyo na multieffects na hindi amp modeller? mala Boss ME50 pero yung puede isaksak sa pc for recording at may effects loop. Meron bang ganito? thanks.
hintayin natin rp1000 pero next year pa daw eh meron na sya sa digitech.com
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on November 06, 2008, 06:06:49 PM
ito naman setup ko dati. pero ngayun purong analog nako. i'm planning to integrate analog and digital again. (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a120/jun_gats/DSC00539.jpg)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: skrumian on November 07, 2008, 08:50:20 AM
ito naman setup ko dati. pero ngayun purong analog nako. i'm planning to integrate analog and digital again. (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a120/jun_gats/DSC00539.jpg)
anung model ng digitech yan sir?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on November 07, 2008, 09:40:09 AM
ito naman setup ko dati. pero ngayun purong analog nako. i'm planning to integrate analog and digital again. (http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a120/jun_gats/DSC00539.jpg)
pero i think GT8 is one of must have's na multifX... or maybe GT10 boss rocks!
+1 gt6 gamit ko dati pero gt8 na ngayon, sobrang laki na diperensya sa gt6. ngayon ok na ko sa 8' hindi ko na maisip mag upgrade to 10'
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lestervai on November 10, 2008, 10:30:34 AM
wow. sir baka magkarun ako ng 8 before the year ends.. hmmmm... parang ang hirap kasi talaga magtweak dun eh.. nasanay ako sa zoom na chikenfeed lang magtweak..hehehe :evil:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paolo_axentro on November 10, 2008, 10:40:37 AM
wow. sir baka magkarun ako ng 8 before the year ends.. hmmmm... parang ang hirap kasi talaga magtweak dun eh.. nasanay ako sa zoom na chikenfeed lang magtweak..hehehe :evil:
hindi naman mahirap. sanayan lang din. share share tayo pag nagkaroon ka na. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lestervai on November 10, 2008, 10:41:58 AM
cge sir salamat! 8-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paolo_axentro on November 10, 2008, 10:43:46 AM
saang zoom ka ba nasanay?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lestervai on November 10, 2008, 10:45:25 AM
wow. sir baka magkarun ako ng 8 before the year ends.. hmmmm... parang ang hirap kasi talaga magtweak dun eh.. nasanay ako sa zoom na chikenfeed lang magtweak..hehehe :evil:
wow naman lester! ayos ah. pasubok ah.:) jam jam tayo pag may oras hehe. wala kasi akong makajam ngayon haha 8-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ghostalker on November 10, 2008, 11:02:59 AM
hindi naman talaga manipis sound ng G series, meron lang kulang "dynamics".
As experience from G1x and G2, yung bC (BG crunch) is good for overdriven sound, slight distortion sound.
yung bG (BG drive) is for heavier stuff.
before ko mabenta yung g2 ko, I've found some good settings sa Pv drive
And kagaya ng nasabi na nila, makaka timpla ka naman maayos na settings.
kung analog+G series naman ay ok yung simulation na nC (marshall crunch) set to very low gain mga 2-6.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: noobie-doobie on November 10, 2008, 04:30:26 PM
wow naman lester! ayos ah. pasubok ah.:) jam jam tayo pag may oras hehe. wala kasi akong makajam ngayon haha 8-)
uyyy master kaw pala yan! hehe.. di pa naman sure yun.. cge jam tapos paturo na din...hahaha
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: overdrive/distortion on November 13, 2008, 05:07:25 PM
BOSS me-20 user here..simpleng simple. no amp modeling..check out this demo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqy8UDuHZl0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqy8UDuHZl0)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: overdrive/distortion on November 13, 2008, 05:09:33 PM
How bout if we compare a Boss-GT6 and a Boss GT-8? Is there a really big difference sa basic sound nya like distortion, delay, chorus, phaser, wah and the like? or are they just the same pro may mga added features lng yung GT-8? I've never had any experience with using a multi-effect kc. Actually Im a drummer but have started to play guitars for our band. Im planning to buy a boss GT-6 but If I have the money, I'll go for a GT-8. kaso lang mga 4-6K yung difference nya. And that 4-6K can already be used to upgrade my guitar. What do you think? :-)
mag boss me-20 ka na lang..sakit sa ulo ang boss GT series....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqy8UDuHZl0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqy8UDuHZl0)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: overdrive/distortion on November 13, 2008, 05:12:56 PM
mag boss me-20 ka na lang..sakit sa ulo ang boss GT series....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqy8UDuHZl0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqy8UDuHZl0)
GT10 user here. Masakit sa ulo sa umpisa kasi andami mong nakikitang buttons at ilaw pero once you get the hang of it maiinlove kayo ng husto :lol: hindi naman sila ganun kahirap itweak sa totoo. Madami lang nagsasabi di maganda or mahirap gamitin ung mga GT kasi sila ung mga unang hindi tumagal :lol: . Muntik na rin ako naging biktima nun nung ilang days palang ung effects sa akin parang gusto ko ibalik at palitan ng Pod x3 dahil lang sa maraming makukuhaan ng patch sa mga POD series pero bute na lang hindi ko binalik kasi naggogrow na ang community ng GT10 kaya dumadami na ang idea sa mga patch. For me kung naenjoy nyo ang mga ME series how much more pa ung GT :-D para sa akin wag kayo matakot at agad maniniwala na hindi maganda or mahirap gamitin ang GT. Wala namang magaling sa naguumpisa eh. Depende na lang kung galing galingan ka talaga :lol: try nyo lang magresearch about dun sa effects and for real maeenjoy nyo talaga dahil astig ung mga tunog nila.. Ill post some samples ng mga patches next time pagnakapagrecord ako.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: overdrive/distortion on November 13, 2008, 05:47:59 PM
IMHO all we need lang naman as a guitarist is overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues for the dirt sound..masasabi ko 90% na napapakinggan natin na music ay di gumagamit ng two modulation at a time(ex..flanger=phaser) or reverb plus delay at the same time ang gitarista..ok lang ang GT series kung manggagaya ko ng tunog ng mga idol natin na guitar heroes...but they fall down to this category overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues...pag maraming choices mas mahirap kaya mas mabuti pa overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: overdrive/distortion on November 13, 2008, 05:50:31 PM
GT10 user here. Masakit sa ulo sa umpisa kasi andami mong nakikitang buttons at ilaw pero once you get the hang of it maiinlove kayo ng husto :lol: hindi naman sila ganun kahirap itweak sa totoo. Madami lang nagsasabi di maganda or mahirap gamitin ung mga GT kasi sila ung mga unang hindi tumagal :lol: . Muntik na rin ako naging biktima nun nung ilang days palang ung effects sa akin parang gusto ko ibalik at palitan ng Pod x3 dahil lang sa maraming makukuhaan ng patch sa mga POD series pero bute na lang hindi ko binalik kasi naggogrow na ang community ng GT10 kaya dumadami na ang idea sa mga patch. For me kung naenjoy nyo ang mga ME series how much more pa ung GT :-D para sa akin wag kayo matakot at agad maniniwala na hindi maganda or mahirap gamitin ang GT. Wala namang magaling sa naguumpisa eh. Depende na lang kung galing galingan ka talaga :lol: try nyo lang magresearch about dun sa effects and for real maeenjoy nyo talaga dahil astig ung mga tunog nila.. Ill post some samples ng mga patches next time pagnakapagrecord ako.
IMHO all we need lang naman as a guitarist is overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues for the dirt sound..masasabi ko 90% na napapakinggan natin na music ay di gumagamit ng two modulation at a time(ex..flanger=phaser) or reverb plus delay at the same time ang gitarista..ok lang ang GT series kung manggagaya ko ng tunog ng mga idol natin na guitar heroes...but they fall down to this category overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues...pag maraming choices mas mahirap kaya mas mabuti pa overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: overdrive/distortion on November 13, 2008, 05:53:35 PM
i just saw a guitarist in a showband with boss gt8...hanggang matapos ang set nila isang klaseng clean tone lang at dirt tone ang narinig ko..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: marzi on November 13, 2008, 05:56:27 PM
IMHO all we need lang naman as a guitarist is overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues for the dirt sound..masasabi ko 90% na napapakinggan natin na music ay di gumagamit ng two modulation at a time(ex..flanger=phaser) or reverb plus delay at the same time ang gitarista..ok lang ang GT series kung manggagaya ko ng tunog ng mga idol natin na guitar heroes...but they fall down to this category overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues...pag maraming choices mas mahirap kaya mas mabuti pa overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues..
huh? Ganun lang ba tingin mo sa mga multi effects na GT? Pangcopy lang ng mga tunog ng mga known guitarist :lol: . You know what the only thing that will limit you from using this gadgets is your creativity. Para makapagcreate ng bagong tunog. Tsaka nasasabi mo lang na yan lang need na effects ng mga gitarista kasi yan lang ang ginagamit mo sa type ng music mo. How about yung others na mahilig magexperiment?. Tsaka kaya nga tinatawag na multi effects eh kasi marami. Nagstomps ka na lang sana. Tsaka you dont even own a GT pano mo naman nasabi yang mga ganyan.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paolo_axentro on November 13, 2008, 08:35:45 PM
mag boss me-20 ka na lang..sakit sa ulo ang boss GT series....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqy8UDuHZl0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqy8UDuHZl0)
gt series sakit sa ulo? :? hindi yata. gt8 user ako. kahit kailan hindi naging sakit sa ulo sakin ang gt series. kahit noon sa gt6 ko wala akong naging problema. at hindi din mahirap timplahin.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paolo_axentro on November 13, 2008, 08:45:13 PM
huh? Ganun lang ba tingin mo sa mga multi effects na GT? Pangcopy lang ng mga tunog ng mga known guitarist :lol: . You know what the only thing that will limit you from using this gadgets is your creativity. Para makapagcreate ng bagong tunog. Tsaka nasasabi mo lang na yan lang need na effects ng mga gitarista kasi yan lang ang ginagamit mo sa type ng music mo. How about yung others na mahilig magexperiment?. Tsaka kaya nga tinatawag na multi effects eh kasi marami. Nagstomps ka na lang sana. Tsaka you dont even own a GT pano mo naman nasabi yang mga ganyan.
IMHO all we need lang naman as a guitarist is overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues for the dirt sound..masasabi ko 90% na napapakinggan natin na music ay di gumagamit ng two modulation at a time(ex..flanger=phaser) or reverb plus delay at the same time ang gitarista..ok lang ang GT series kung manggagaya ko ng tunog ng mga idol natin na guitar heroes...but they fall down to this category overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues...pag maraming choices mas mahirap kaya mas mabuti pa overdrive,distortion,fuzz,metal,blues..
-100
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on November 13, 2008, 11:45:12 PM
as for multi fx user, para sakin mas ok sakin kung mas marami program pwede kalikutin sa multi,. more tonal possibillities at mas maraming tone variation pwedeng maachieve at pwedeng i-archieve kung sakaling sawa na sa preset na ginawa, kung user friendly naman un paguusapan ay walang problema un sakin kasi may manual naman at may user tips naman sa mga forum which are great help talaga when pursuing your favorite tone,. ika nga tweak tweak lang, patience lang talaga kailangan :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: crushtone1991 on November 14, 2008, 07:42:31 PM
mga ser ok lang po ba na i tago ko muna ang multifx(zoom g2.1u) for 1year?ano ang mga dapat kong gawin pagitatago ko na?mga advice sir please
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on November 14, 2008, 08:26:36 PM
Parang ganito rin ang setup ko (G1- EQ200- Brit Mod DS1)
Yung G1 ko, halos naka- off lahat ng fx, EQ + cab sim + Reverb lang ang naka- on, tapos yung Britmod ang distortion na gamit ko, and sa tone suck naman, boost ko lang ng konti yung highs ng EQ200 para medyo makabawi sa nawalang highs :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paolo_axentro on November 15, 2008, 11:19:05 AM
kasi ser kulang pa pambili ko ng gitara...eh plano ko sana sabay na talaga bumili ng fx syaka gitara.kaya lang may nakita akong 2nd hand na fx,binili ko na para makamura.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: angeloesteban14 on November 15, 2008, 02:35:18 PM
meng musta yung ganitong setup? yung sakin grabe tonesuck! wala akong matimplang magandang tunog...try ko din palitan yung HM100 ng mejo mild na distortion, Marshall Guvnor 2+, kaso ganun pa din...
kaya ngayon standalone g2.1u gamit ko..
ok naman ang tunog para sakin. medyo may tonesuck pero ayos naman .... di lang maganda yung patchcable na blue. wala akong mahanap na maganda patchcable eh. hehe :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: champz on November 15, 2008, 03:01:37 PM
kasi ser kulang pa pambili ko ng gitara...eh plano ko sana sabay na talaga bumili ng fx syaka gitara.kaya lang may nakita akong 2nd hand na fx,binili ko na para makamura.
kung isang taon mo itatago sana nagantay ka na lang :lol: im sure magmumura pa un lalo sa kuha mo now or mas maganda pa makukuha mo sa mas murang halaga di ba? Pero i think hindi naman un masisira kung mastock..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: crushtone1991 on November 16, 2008, 08:37:33 AM
kung isang taon mo itatago sana nagantay ka na lang :lol: im sure magmumura pa un lalo sa kuha mo now or mas maganda pa makukuha mo sa mas murang halaga di ba? Pero i think hindi naman un masisira kung mastock..
pero ser hindi saktong isang taon..hanggang march or april lang siguro.bali 6 months lang siguro.kasi sa march pagkagraduate ko bibigyan ako ng magulang ko ng pera..yun naman ung ipangbibili ko ng iba pang mga gadget ko.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: DrDeathRNMD98 on November 17, 2008, 10:30:34 PM
are rack multi effects good soundwise?
consider the Boss GT - Pro
do you consider them old school already?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on November 18, 2008, 08:37:12 PM
yup! kung may PA lang ako tapos sasakyan un ang pipiliim ko :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: deltaslim on February 15, 2009, 11:41:47 AM
in my experience, whatever you get, the most important factor is matching and setting it up to work with the system at hand -- whether thru front of an amp (via a preamp), straight to a power amp, to a monitor/PA, etc. AND optimizing volume, s/n ratio, and tone considering instrument and line levels along the way.
the new TRS and XLR outs on the POD X3 are good features. anyone can comment on how they sound?
why is it that the PODxt has balanced outs but XTL doesn't??
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pg13 on February 22, 2009, 11:44:57 AM
my boss gt8 mejo matagal kong pinag aralan to.... pero ok ang tunog nito... marty friedman using this multi effects
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: bibcute on March 04, 2009, 11:33:48 PM
mga sir, Saan nakakabili nang footswitch for zoom g2.1u??? hindi na kasi masyado nag fufunction yung footswitch nung sa akin. Sensya taga probinsiya pa kasi ako..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on March 04, 2009, 11:56:36 PM
if i'm right, the zoom's footswitch is not mechanical. it just shorts the momentary switch on the circuit board when pressed.
have it checked by someone who knows his way around effects pedals instead.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: bibcute on March 05, 2009, 10:01:51 AM
May nakita kasi ako instruction sa net on how to change the foot switch of G2. Sa tingin ko hindi naman siya ganun ka complikado, since footswitch lang naman yung may diperensya.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on March 05, 2009, 11:15:38 AM
ok... if you say so.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: champoi on March 08, 2009, 12:30:29 AM
ang gaganda naman ng mga multi dito. ako naman, im using (and satisfied at the moment) with my Boss GT-3 (bought from Sidlead). ayos naman, malapit sa analog ang tunog, which i enjoyed the most. nung una nahirapan ako, pero nakuha ko na rin sa kakatweak. hahahaha
anyway, i also have DOD fx7, luma na and may defect. sino ba nag rerepair ng mga multi dito?
may power pero walang tunog na lumalabas, sayang nga di na magamit.
sana po may mairefer kayong repairman na forumites din.
God bless to all!!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on March 08, 2009, 10:20:23 AM
ang gaganda naman ng mga multi dito. ako naman, im using (and satisfied at the moment) with my Boss GT-3 (bought from Sidlead). ayos naman, malapit sa analog ang tunog, which i enjoyed the most. nung una nahirapan ako, pero nakuha ko na rin sa kakatweak. hahahaha
anyway, i also have DOD fx7, luma na and may defect. sino ba nag rerepair ng mga multi dito?
may power pero walang tunog na lumalabas, sayang nga di na magamit.
sana po may mairefer kayong repairman na forumites din.
God bless to all!!
Try BAMF.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on March 08, 2009, 10:24:24 AM
in my experience, whatever you get, the most important factor is matching and setting it up to work with the system at hand -- whether thru front of an amp (via a preamp), straight to a power amp, to a monitor/PA, etc. AND optimizing volume, s/n ratio, and tone considering instrument and line levels along the way.
the new TRS and XLR outs on the POD X3 are good features. anyone can comment on how they sound?
why is it that the PODxt has balanced outs but XTL doesn't??
Para may new feature sa X3 Live. :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Muzickero on April 04, 2009, 01:35:30 PM
help po. . .meron po akong lumang zoom 2020 binigay sakin kaya lang deffective yung pedals hindi na sila gumagana pati yung bank pero ok pa nmn yung tunog and processing yung pedal switches lang talaga. meron ba kayo alam na magaling gumawa at saka magkano po kaya magagastos?thanks
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on April 04, 2009, 04:18:53 PM
help po. . .meron po akong lumang zoom 2020 binigay sakin kaya lang deffective yung pedals hindi na sila gumagana pati yung bank pero ok pa nmn yung tunog and processing yung pedal switches lang talaga. meron ba kayo alam na magaling gumawa at saka magkano po kaya magagastos?thanks
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Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: accento24 on April 05, 2009, 11:51:18 AM
ME-50 user here! got mine last april fools day,twice ko na nagamit sa gig and im loving it! sakin,eto ang gamot sa GAS! :-D
thanks to sir dubista! :-D
Yup! I had an ME50 before. Okay yan. Lalo ung mga delays niya!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jirik on April 21, 2009, 09:02:46 AM
can anyone compare these two.. Boss ME-50 and Zoom G7.1ut
1. functionality 2. ease of use 3. sound 4. price
eto pinagpipilian ko ngaun based sa kelangan ko at budget. :-D thanks in advance..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: nicoalfredo on April 22, 2009, 12:49:05 AM
Share ko lang ung ginagamit namin sa church. KORG Toneworks AX3000G and BOSS GT-8 angas ng tunog!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: daryl090804 on April 22, 2009, 02:33:35 AM
seem to be having a problem with my digitech rp500. tried creating my own patch and then when i put in the whammy effect with two octaves up, kahit nakababa yung pedal, tunog pa rin na naka whammy yung pedal. can anyone help me?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: sonikyut on April 26, 2009, 05:58:29 PM
...pang recording...pang praktis at pang live.. BOSS ME-50 da best...no hassle..total multi analog stompboxes in one box hahahahaha
Title: Alin...Alin....
Post by: l_e_i_g_h on April 26, 2009, 08:54:07 PM
Naku...sangayon ako diyan! Minsan...nasa timpla lang. 8-)
May iba nga diyan...porket hindi lang sila masaya sa mga tunog ng 'multi-effects pedal' nila...eh...bibili na ulit ng bago.
Ako...nung una kong pinageeksperimentuhan yung Floor Pod (ng Line6)...nakulangan ako! (at medyo nagsisi na iba nalang binili) Pero...nung binigyan ko TALAGA ng oras na kalikutin (naku! kulit ng manual ng Floor Pod...hahaha...unti lang nakalagay---tulad ng pag lipat ng Volume/Wah...kailangan pala TAPAKAN o PINDUTIN ng mahigpit bago lumipat sa WAH)
Ngayon nga...ginagawa ko ng recording (samples lang...hindi BUONG KANTA! HAHAHA) lahat ng pre-sets ng Floor-Pod (tapos ulit-tilitin kong papakinggan)....para kung may naisip akong isulat...at itugtog....alam ko na kung alin-alin ang puede kong gamitin na tunog.
** pero minsan nasa pick-up o gitara din....hehehe :lol: Kung medyo generic yung gitara...hindi kumakagat yung effects (nadanasan ko ito nung ginamit ko yung isang 'strat-style' na girata....na hindi masyado pulido yung gawa...tsaka siguro yung pick-ups...generic din....ayun) pag open strum (kailangan mag-chords)
I've been a multi-effects freak for years... particularly Zoom multi effects - Zoom 707II, GFX8, Zoom 1010, Zoom G7.1ut, Zoom 505, and some Korg multis as well - AX30G, AX1500G, AX100G, AX3000G. To get the tone that you want in a multi-effects, you really need time to tweak and experiment on the presets of a particular unit. Depende pa yan sa gamit mong amps and guitar. You can build programs from scratch or just use the preset, either way, use what works for you. For me, so far 3 multi-effects stand out from the list I've mentioned above - G7.1ut, AX30G, and AX3000G. If I ever I will buy a multi again, I will go for Zoom G7.1ut - decent distortion sounds, modulation, and pure efficiency. Kuhang-kuha tunog ng Boss DS1 and Crybaby wah, kakaaliw. Yung mga nagsasabi na manipis o alanganin ang distortion sound ng G7.1ut, well baka di lang nila natimplahan ng maayos yung unit. Presets kasi ng G7 medyo may mga pangit na timpla eh. Pero once you give it time in tweaking and experimenting, sobrang dami ng potential nito. Dapat tyagaan lang tlga sa timplahan, kahit anong multi-fx naman ganun di bah? Tska maganda kasi sa G7 rugged design and construction, bakal kung bakal. Tska makapal yung bakal ha. Wala ring sinok when you switch from one patch to another. 2nd is yung AX3000G - has lots of potential as well when it comes to tone building. Ayoko lang dito medyo manipis yung casing nya. Surprisingly, AX30G is on my list - ganda kasi distortions nito and the modulations din. Pangit lang dito super obvious ang sinok. I have'nt tried PODXT Live, Boss GT8 and GT6, Tonelab SE... Maybe when I get my hands on them, compare ko sa G7. For now, I have to say it's Zoom G7.1ut. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: screamingguitars on April 27, 2009, 09:15:22 PM
Anybody here who have tried the Vox Tonelab LE and Zoom GT9.1tt? which Do U think is better?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on April 27, 2009, 09:33:57 PM
Sounds wise (via Youtube), i would agree the vox tonelab is better for me.
Yup ganda pa niya through an amp. Iba hinga niya (that's the best word I coudl think of to describe the difference hehe).
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: maxi_musikero on May 05, 2009, 08:12:35 PM
how do you guys rate the Korg AX-10G? hindi na naglalabas ng ganito ang Korg eh but this is the most simple decent multi with expression pedal i've seen. any other alternatives for this? ayoko ng zoom. :-D
thanks in advance for the inputs! :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on May 05, 2009, 09:58:54 PM
Personally, I'd rather get a Korg AX5G. Or if there's extra cash to spare, the new Tonelab ST.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: maxi_musikero on May 05, 2009, 11:22:35 PM
can anyone compare these two.. Boss ME-50 and Zoom G7.1ut
1. functionality 2. ease of use 3. sound 4. price
eto pinagpipilian ko ngaun based sa kelangan ko at budget. :-D thanks in advance..
boss me 50 zoom = basura talaga
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: nogi on May 14, 2009, 09:40:10 AM
kung me50 or g7, tingin ko mas ok tunog ng mga drives ng zoom ngayon kasi me tube xa, more analog un tunog. un me50 ganda mga modualtions at delay.. pero favorite ko is me50.. hehehe naka 2 nako ganun.. hehehe bnenta ko dati isa, tpos nagsisi me tpos bumili me ulit sa macau.hehehe
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: maxi_musikero on May 27, 2009, 09:32:35 AM
Personally, I'd rather get a Korg AX5G. Or if there's extra cash to spare, the new Tonelab ST.
going back to the AX5G vs. AX10G, why do you prefer the former? :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lestervai on May 27, 2009, 09:40:44 AM
guys, anyone still uses Boss GT-8 here???
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: the_Nong on June 05, 2009, 12:49:26 AM
i've tried these:
Zoom GFX-1 & GFX-5, simple and basic.. great for beginners. POD X3 Live! great sound, great features, great interface but i dont like the look & appearance. POD XT Live! (currently using one), good interface (X3 is better), great sound too, cool features (lamang X3dito) and i love the look and appearance better.
I've owned the MultiFXs up there.. but i've tried and heard almost all.. so far, a POD is a POD. i know many will have their opinions about this but, hey, this is my opinion, dba? i just learned and understood how to use the POD and now it serves me well.
i know nothing beats analog, i truly agree. but at the end of the day, we musicians and aficionados are the only one would know the difference. and having a MultiFX is more convenient. bottom-line, what's important is to give the crowd what they want: MUSIC. they would care less what effects you're using, but more on what music you will play..
my 2cents worth..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: daryl090804 on June 05, 2009, 03:44:04 AM
I own a Digitech RP500 and honestly, I initially bought it just to use the Whammy effect plus I knew my GFX3 didn't have the "bite" that I needed. As I was playing with it, I realized that the Whammy was just a distraction. Yeah, playing with it was fun but then I got to the point of really getting to use the RP500 to its potential. Excellent amp and cab sims, great modulation effects and it's sturdy as hell. Worth the guitar I traded to get it. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kinko on June 05, 2009, 04:57:33 PM
un nga napa GAS ako sa multi.. look at my signature. :-D = Line 6 pod xt live. im happy naman sa desisyon ko. syempre kanya kanyang GAS attack yan. malay pag gising ko ng isang umaga eh balik analog uli. hehe. isang bitbitan lang ika nga nila. :-D pero naiwan pa din ung isang multi ko na analog. ayus diba multi na analog(lexicon lxp-5). pag may budget ka for multi eh lubusin mo na. try mo yung m13 ng line 6. :wink:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on June 07, 2009, 02:20:06 PM
going back to the AX5G vs. AX10G, why do you prefer the former? :-)
updated technology and reportedly better flexibility. don't take my word for it, though.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: reycantong on June 07, 2009, 09:00:18 PM
I have the PODpro, PODxt Live and PODxt Pro. I also have a Vetta amp (amp with onboard multifx). I'm currently using the PODxt Pro for live situations. In the studio, I use my POD Farm Platinum. So far, these things never let me down.
I'm waiting for the POD X3 Pro to arrive in PPitch, and I'm planning to order a Fractal Audio AxeFx Ultra (this one's a beast).
Some people still prefer analog. But for me, multifx is the way to go.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: the_Nong on June 10, 2009, 12:20:41 PM
Brother Rey,
Since you're an avid POD user, have you tried the POD M13 stompbox modeler? i have not heard anything locally about it..
http://line6.com/m13/
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: diaboliche on June 10, 2009, 04:09:00 PM
My benta na po ba na digitech rp1000? Maganda rin po ba ito?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tam_guitar on June 14, 2009, 06:55:27 AM
:-( i hate taxi drivers from now on!
bibili dapat ako ng GT-10 eh kaya lang binanga ako ng taxi, natangal ung sliding door ng starex, insurance told me that may participation ako 30%
i have to pay 23k for the replacement
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: the_Nong on June 15, 2009, 05:08:07 AM
bibili dapat ako ng GT-10 eh kaya lang binanga ako ng taxi, natangal ung sliding door ng starex, insurance told me that may participation ako 30%
i have to pay 23k for the replacement
badtrip nga yan, ako naka 60k para sa impacted teeth... gitara na lang sana :cry:
pero ganun talaga :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: neilby on June 21, 2009, 08:02:05 AM
for me gt-10, hehe, may gt-10 kasi ako, :-D
well masaya gamitin yung gt-10 kasi feeling ko laging live ang tugtog ko kahit hindi kagandahan guitar and amp, sya ang nagdadala ng mga instruments ko, hehehe, siguro without my gt-10, panget na ang gusto ko palabasin na tone of music, hehehe :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: dudeofdude on June 21, 2009, 07:51:02 PM
Zoom GFX-1 & GFX-5, simple and basic.. great for beginners. POD X3 Live! great sound, great features, great interface but i dont like the look & appearance. POD XT Live! (currently using one), good interface (X3 is better), great sound too, cool features (lamang X3dito) and i love the look and appearance better.
I've owned the MultiFXs up there.. but i've tried and heard almost all.. so far, a POD is a POD. i know many will have their opinions about this but, hey, this is my opinion, dba? i just learned and understood how to use the POD and now it serves me well.
i know nothing beats analog, i truly agree. but at the end of the day, we musicians and aficionados are the only one would know the difference. and having a MultiFX is more convenient. bottom-line, what's important is to give the crowd what they want: MUSIC. they would care less what effects you're using, but more on what music you will play..
my 2cents worth..
Kuya Nong! Musta? I'm just wonderin' which is better between POD X3 Live and Boss GT-10. I'm currently using Zoom G9.2tt and there's this Peavey 5150 Drive model that I really like. Buong-buo tunog. With the help of the tube, I think. Karamihan ng demo sa youtube is of POD X3 Live. Onti lang GT-10. But based on demos sa youtube mas maganda tunog ng X3 Live for me and mas buo yung drive. Drive kasi pinaka priority ko talaga that's why I'm having second thoughts of letting my G9.2tt go (I know Line 6 and Boss is better but I love the drive from my G9.2tt).
So based sa mga demo na nakita ko sa youtube, I'd love to go for the X3 Live but I asked Mang Raul which is better between X3 and GT-10 and he said that if masira yung Line 6, hindi napapalitan ng parts. So in other words, parang disposable ang dating ng X3 kaya napaisip 2loy ako. Maintenance-wise ok yung Zoom ko for me since serviceable ang parts niya. But based on what Mang Raul said, It's wiser siguro to go for the GT-10 since if ever masira yung effects, siyempre dapat repairable di ba? Hindi sakit sa ulo pagawa or worse, tapon na.
So to cut this short, which is better? POD X3 Live or Boss GT-10 or should I stick with my Zoom G9.2tt? :?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Jem-Jr.™ on June 23, 2009, 02:59:23 AM
base sa reviews sir.. pod x3 live - better preamps boss gt-10 - better effects
..ako nga medyo nag dadalawang isip na sa boss gt-10 ko kung ibebenta ko o hindi hehe.. parang gusto ko ipalit sa pod x3live :-D parang lang :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on June 23, 2009, 03:02:51 AM
for sale gnx4 ko --> http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,140144.0.html
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Jem-Jr.™ on June 23, 2009, 03:44:38 PM
boss gt-10 for sale :-D http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,141068.0.html
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: hiromi_777a on June 23, 2009, 03:47:10 PM
base sa reviews sir.. pod x3 live - better preamps boss gt-10 - better effects
..ako nga medyo nag dadalawang isip na sa boss gt-10 ko kung ibebenta ko o hindi hehe.. parang gusto ko ipalit sa pod x3live :-D parang lang :lol:
EXACTLY. Ganyan din opinyon ko kaya mas gus2 ko sana X3 Live. Kaso na turn-off ako sa issue na pag nasira siya malaki possibility na di na mapapakinabangan. Sabi lang ha, wala akong personal experience pero siyempre reliable yung nagsabi eh so sa ngaun GT-10 gus2 ko if magpalit ako. Trade nalang tayo Sir, add ako cash. :wink:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: les_paul_rhay on June 25, 2009, 11:59:49 PM
mga pre my alam ba kayo nag aayos ng boss multi effects?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tapslore on June 26, 2009, 07:25:35 PM
i've owned a gt-10 for a year and recently traded it for an x3 live. both are solid multi-effects processors, but have their own strengths and weaknesses. my impressions:
- for recording, x3 live wins by a mile. the usb connector really works, and the drivers are hassle-free. the gt-10, on the other hand, requires a separate audio interface to plug into the computer, plus you need to do massive tweaking to approximate the live sound when recording.
- for live, it's the gt-10 for the win. the gt-10 has a lot of punch, an upper mid hump that gives it a lot of presence in live situations. some people hate this "cocked-wah" sound, but for live work it helps push your guitar forward in the mix. the x3 live is voiced a little dark, which causes it to disappear live (unless you tweak it). plus, the gt-10 is built like a tank, you can kill someone with this thing, while the x3 live needs to be babied.
- for amp modelling, x3 live is the clear champion. for example, its ac30, plexi and hi-gain dual rectifiers really sound different from each other, giving you distinct vibes to play with. on the other hand, the gt-10 excels in two sounds, clean and mid-gain (crunch), with models falling into either category. the hi-gain stuff can be made to sound good with massive tweaking, but again, all the high gain sounds have a sameness to them.
- it's in the effects where the gt-10 put all its processing power. man, the sheer tweakability - movable effects modules, (at least) 3 movable eq blocks, assignable footswitches, and so on - lets you create totally UNIQUE sounds. the x3 live, on the other hand, suffers from being too faithful to models of amps and effects - you can copy a lot of sounds, but it's harder to make your own.
bottom line, both processors have their strengths and weaknesses, but your choice of either one depends entirely on what your game is. if you do a lot of home recording with occasional gigs, go with an x3 live; if you're road warrior that wants unique sounds, stick with a gt-10.
my 2 cents :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: hiromi_777a on June 26, 2009, 11:23:57 PM
i've owned a gt-10 for a year and recently traded it for an x3 live. both are solid multi-effects processors, but have their own strengths and weaknesses. my impressions:
- for recording, x3 live wins by a mile. the usb connector really works, and the drivers are hassle-free. the gt-10, on the other hand, requires a separate audio interface to plug into the computer, plus you need to do massive tweaking to approximate the live sound when recording.
- for live, it's the gt-10 for the win. the gt-10 has a lot of punch, an upper mid hump that gives it a lot of presence in live situations. some people hate this "cocked-wah" sound, but for live work it helps push your guitar forward in the mix. the x3 live is voiced a little dark, which causes it to disappear live (unless you tweak it). plus, the gt-10 is built like a tank, you can kill someone with this thing, while the x3 live needs to be babied.
- for amp modelling, x3 live is the clear champion. for example, its ac30, plexi and hi-gain dual rectifiers really sound different from each other, giving you distinct vibes to play with. on the other hand, the gt-10 excels in two sounds, clean and mid-gain (crunch), with models falling into either category. the hi-gain stuff can be made to sound good with massive tweaking, but again, all the high gain sounds have a sameness to them.
- it's in the effects where the gt-10 put all its processing power. man, the sheer tweakability - movable effects modules, (at least) 3 movable eq blocks, assignable footswitches, and so on - lets you create totally UNIQUE sounds. the x3 live, on the other hand, suffers from being too faithful to models of amps and effects - you can copy a lot of sounds, but it's harder to make your own.
bottom line, both processors have their strengths and weaknesses, but your choice of either one depends entirely on what your game is. if you do a lot of home recording with occasional gigs, go with an x3 live; if you're road warrior that wants unique sounds, stick with a gt-10.
my 2 cents :-D
Yes, the best talaga sa amp modelling and hi gain distortion ang X3 live in my opinion that's why yun yung hinahanap ko in the first place. Kaso lang nagalangan ako because of it's reliability issues na naririnig ko. So I think sa ngayon GT-10 talaga ang target ko. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Jem-Jr.™ on June 27, 2009, 12:29:36 AM
sir hiromi i-FS mo na kasi yang g9 mo para makuha mo na akin hehe :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: nickoreno on June 28, 2009, 02:49:10 AM
ok sila pareho gt-10 and pod... gt-10 made for live performance x3l made for recording..
isa lang napansin ko sa gt-10 diko nagustuhan ang wahwah nya.. un lang pero lahat ok pati pala medyo mahirap ang interface nya..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: hiromi_777a on June 28, 2009, 06:23:34 PM
sir hiromi i-FS mo na kasi yang g9 mo para makuha mo na akin hehe :-D
Wala kasi ako gagamitin pag di ako agad nakakuha ng GT-10. Natetempt na nga ako ibenta eh. hehe May nag offer na kaso may hinihintay din siyang buyer ng item niya. Isip isip. :roll:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: zero44 on July 10, 2009, 11:58:21 PM
planing to buy dn kc aq eh...
base sa nbasa q..
hmmm..
line6 pod x3: (sale xa ngayon) haha tpos nkita q lng pde xa gamitn sa bass guitar.. (no idea p q kng mganda ung 2nog) tpos... hmmm pde dn daw mag pa2g2g ng MP3 (para saan? NP: poker face)
boss gt10: (gamit xa ng barkada q c nielby) mganda dw mxdong techie dw ung sound tpos mdame dn aqng nkita sa youtube n boss effects user (quality dw nung materials)
i therefore conclude ...
naguguluhan p dn aq... haha
bass player kc aq.. gt-10b kc mas mhal sa gt-10 and no idea p q sa features nun.. actually nag hahanap aq ng korg ax3000b ska gt-8b ang mahal kc ng gt-10b.. last tngn q (dis june 09 only) 29k dw xa... balak q dn sna mag ME series ksu sbi ng fwnd q prng stompbox lng dw konti lng efx but easy to use.. so un i change my mind.. nkita q nga ung line6 mganda nmn... ksu d q lng alam kpg gnamit n sa bass.. tsk...
hmmm..
im still confused on what to buy....
line6 boss or korg..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: zero44 on July 11, 2009, 12:36:45 AM
may nabasa nnmn aqng bago...
kng recording lng
GT-PRO dw ang mganda..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: dudeofdude on July 16, 2009, 05:05:28 PM
guys patulong naman, im considering mulltieffects dahil masyadong expensive ang pagiipon ng single peds pati im starting a new hobbie, i need to save up :lol: what are your most recommendable multieffects? my budget is within 10-12k. thanks in advance :-D
sorry kung taglish :)) nagmamadali kasi ako
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: arkeetar on July 16, 2009, 05:12:53 PM
vox tonelab nasa ganyang range, wala na pala sa everymusic :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: luvyoulen on July 16, 2009, 05:14:57 PM
vox tonelab le ganda ng tunog ayos
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: silverwire on July 31, 2009, 05:20:06 AM
try RP350 or RP355, almost everything in 1 small package.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: arkinet on July 31, 2009, 06:07:48 AM
im not a techie(nor trekkie ehehehe), but i can say pero Gt10 isnt that bad interface wise, sure, all gadgets need time to get comfortable with, the thing with GT10 is you can customize your effects SOOOO easily, either from scratch or mod whats existing, IMHO, very intuitive. And of course, theres always that manual mode :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: diaboliche on July 31, 2009, 11:36:34 AM
Anyone here using a Digitech RP500? Need some reviews. Thanks. :wink:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: petrucci69 on August 01, 2009, 06:52:23 AM
yung VOX Tonelab ST po ba may nakatry na? 9k+ lang ata yun ah may tube nadin at relatively small compared sa ibang multis... Maganda kaya ito pang home recording?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on August 04, 2009, 12:26:46 AM
Tonelab LE pa lang na-try ko. Maganda. Sure ball okay din yan ST. May new amp models pa.:)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on August 04, 2009, 12:44:20 AM
The Tonelabs have always had good reputation (although may mga nagrereklamo tungkol sa digital aliasing). But to say na talo sa tone yung iba like a GT-10... hmmm....
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on August 22, 2009, 07:57:59 AM
Test of my Vox Tonelab LE through cheap PC speakers.
Just for reference of those checking out the unit and what it can do.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: eckooo on September 02, 2009, 11:26:49 PM
ok din ung mga multi effects ng DIGITECH
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: MYN11 on September 03, 2009, 12:13:22 AM
Line6 PODxt Pro gamit ko sa live (naka effects loop sa JSX Head). Sa recording, Line6 POD Farm (included in the PODxt Pro) and Guitar Rig 3 gamit ko. Direct all the way sa DAW. Minsan gamit ko Guitar Rig sa gig with the optional foot controller and a laptop (considered multifx naman na siguro to :-D).
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jirehsanvictores on September 03, 2009, 12:57:02 AM
vox tonelab le panalo!kaso kung 10-12k lang budget..tonelab st lang..ok din naman tonelab st..nsa 21k+ pdn kasi brandnew ng tonelab le nung tinanong ko sa supplier dto sa philmusic..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: raBid on September 18, 2009, 03:42:25 PM
Any reviews on the BOSS ME 70? thanks bros
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: DrDeathRNMD98 on September 18, 2009, 06:27:06 PM
multi effects? I just looooove my Zoom GFX-4, outdated and discontinued but works very well for me. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: win32dotex on September 18, 2009, 07:05:37 PM
mga bros,
i have purchased a Digitech GNX3000...
is it worth it?
for now i'm still in a learning stage in mixing stuffs, effects... dami kasi pagpilian and nakakalito na...
baka meron kau alam na settings to make a good metal effect...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on September 18, 2009, 10:03:20 PM
may thread ba dito ng mga patches ng Zoom G1x :roll:
mahirap since naka depend tlga sound nang patches sa amp na gagamitin mo. kung ok man yang patch na isa sa marshall na amp baka sa fender hindi maganda and vice versa.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: electricon27 on September 19, 2009, 06:14:08 AM
mahirap since naka depend tlga sound nang patches sa amp na gagamitin mo. kung ok man yang patch na isa sa marshall na amp baka sa fender hindi maganda and vice versa.
Thanks Hellgast! :-) I'll just try to experiment.. :roll:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on September 19, 2009, 04:34:01 PM
for now i'm still in a learning stage in mixing stuffs, effects... dami kasi pagpilian and nakakalito na...
baka meron kau alam na settings to make a good metal effect...
Isn't it a little too late to ask kung worth it kasi nabili mo na? hehe. Anyway, congrats sa bili mo Punta ka nalang dito para makahanap ka ng good metal sound. http://www.guitarworkstation.com/forum/
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pipo on September 29, 2009, 04:22:37 PM
Proud multi-effect user here. :-D
Ano ba yung suitable na multi for direct PA use? yung maliit lang sana at madaling bitbitin for travelling purposes.
anybody who use their small multi effect units direct to PA?
Any reply would be much appreciated.
Thanks. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paranoid on September 29, 2009, 10:53:50 PM
Ano ba yung suitable na multi for direct PA use? yung maliit lang sana at madaling bitbitin for travelling purposes.
anybody who use their small multi effect units direct to PA?
Any reply would be much appreciated.
Thanks. :-)
pod xt live or pod x3 the best...
but im using gt-10.. im podxt live user before... gsto ko sana x3 talo lang sa hardware at effects versatility pero kung naka direct panalong panalo...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kragz on September 30, 2009, 07:14:20 AM
but im using gt-10.. im podxt live user before... gsto ko sana x3 talo lang sa hardware at effects versatility pero kung naka direct panalong panalo...
+10 mas panalo parin gt-10 :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on September 30, 2009, 08:19:04 AM
Line 6 has much much better software support, though.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paranoid on September 30, 2009, 10:30:07 AM
but im using gt-10.. im podxt live user before... gsto ko sana x3 talo lang sa hardware at effects versatility pero kung naka direct panalong panalo...
Ayus talaga yung POD X3 Live tsaka BOSS GT-10. I've tried one of those and yeah, swabe.
Pero kung gusto mo madaling bitbitin, go with the Floor POD.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: win32dotex on September 30, 2009, 01:16:59 PM
mga bros, boss or korg or digitech? interms sa distortion.. kasi metal kasi hilig kong music...
i have a gnx3000... pero may hinahanap akong tunog ng metal na ndi ko ma setup...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on September 30, 2009, 01:22:44 PM
ganun po bah bro... meron nga nagsabi sa akin na mas maganda ang tunog ng gnx3000 kaysa gnx4... pero mas madami features ang gnx4...
sa sobra dami mong gawin sa gnx3000 parang ndi muna alam anung gawin... ahehe... :)
tweak tweak lang. or download ka patches sa digitech.com
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on September 30, 2009, 01:33:11 PM
Para sa akin, pinakamadaling kumuha ng maayos na high gain distortion sa mga Line 6 units. Then there's Boss and Rocktron (na wala locally). But I'm also sure that you can get those from others with a little more work.
magsasawa ka rin sa tunog niyang hahhahaahahahahah!!! :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Archeo on October 01, 2009, 04:34:10 AM
Multi-Effects user here.
Got a Zoom G7 and an old Yamaha DG-Stomp. :-P Di ko alam kung may nakakita na sainyo ng DG-Stomp.. and mas prefer ko ung DG-Stomp kesa sa G7 kaso I can get ala 80's esque type of sound sa G7 and sa DG-Stomp mga pang more 90's style haha. :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on October 01, 2009, 07:01:23 AM
ok na ok for my needs pero ang laki nya at hassle sa bitbitan sa practice and church. kaya hanap ko yung mejo maliit lang na panalo for direct PA use.
so line6 floor pod is ok?
panu yung Zoom G2.1u direct to PA? ok ba?
thanks guys.:-)
Podxt live user here but quite unhappy. Gusto ko makatry ng iba pang pedals. I wanna try the ax3000g. May soundclips ka ba dyan sir the direct recording??
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: win32dotex on October 01, 2009, 08:17:11 AM
ok na ok for my needs pero ang laki nya at hassle sa bitbitan sa practice and church. kaya hanap ko yung mejo maliit lang na panalo for direct PA use.
so line6 floor pod is ok?
panu yung Zoom G2.1u direct to PA? ok ba?
thanks guys.:-)
ganda ang ax3000g... yan ang gamit ng guitarista namin...
ok na masyado! bigat lang! hehe...
mahirap bro nu kapag nag tune ka ng tones in a certain amp then pag live gig nu, eh iba ung amps na naka set, patay iiba ung tunog... un lng ang nakasama sa MFX... tama po bah?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: win32dotex on October 01, 2009, 08:31:27 AM
ganda ang ax3000g... yan ang gamit ng guitarista namin...
ok na masyado! bigat lang! hehe...
mahirap bro nu kapag nag tune ka ng tones in a certain amp then pag live gig nu, eh iba ung amps na naka set, patay iiba ung tunog... un lng ang nakasama sa MFX... tama po bah?
Right. One of the cons of a multifx.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paranoid on October 01, 2009, 09:44:37 AM
ganda ang ax3000g... yan ang gamit ng guitarista namin...
ok na masyado! bigat lang! hehe...
mahirap bro nu kapag nag tune ka ng tones in a certain amp then pag live gig nu, eh iba ung amps na naka set, patay iiba ung tunog... un lng ang nakasama sa MFX... tama po bah?
Amps are for stage volume only. Pag direct ka sa PA, di ka magkakaproblema dyan.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on October 01, 2009, 10:52:16 AM
ang ginagawa ko paglive or practice para kumapal un tone ng multi is add 10 or 6 band eq, ok na yun. or add ka pa ng BBE sonic stomp.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: dimasalang on October 01, 2009, 11:00:28 AM
ganda ang ax3000g... yan ang gamit ng guitarista namin...
ok na masyado! bigat lang! hehe...
mahirap bro nu kapag nag tune ka ng tones in a certain amp then pag live gig nu, eh iba ung amps na naka set, patay iiba ung tunog... un lng ang nakasama sa MFX... tama po bah?
hindi naman lahat ng mfx ganun.. pero majority ng mfx ganun.. sa gt10 ko gamit kong pre amp "through(ung currently na ginagamit mong amp)" kaya hindi nag iiba masyado ang tunog ng tones ko
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kragz on October 01, 2009, 03:25:39 PM
Podxt live user here but quite unhappy. Gusto ko makatry ng iba pang pedals. I wanna try the ax3000g. May soundclips ka ba dyan sir the direct recording??
Wow! PODxtlive! isa din yan sa mga choices ko kaso ang mahal. hehe :-D kaya i settled sa korg unit at yun ok na ako. :-)
I will try recording some stuff pag free ako. hehehe
Zoom 606 gamit ng other guitarist namin. ok na ok din sya. basta tyaga lang sa pag-tweek.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on October 01, 2009, 06:09:50 PM
Wow! PODxtlive! isa din yan sa mga choices ko kaso ang mahal. hehe :-D kaya i settled sa korg unit at yun ok na ako. :-)
I will try recording some stuff pag free ako. hehehe
Zoom 606 gamit ng other guitarist namin. ok na ok din sya. basta tyaga lang sa pag-tweek.
Abang lang bro sa classifieds. Got mine for 10k with bag, adapter and all the expansion packs. Unnoticeable scratches pa.. Di ako masyado nasaktan sa pagbili lalo na na hindi ko masyado naeenjoy ito.
sure please.. Curious din ako sa sound nyan e. Mas ok kasi para sakin ang tunog sa youtube kysa pod pero di parin ako convinced. If magustuhan ko trade tayo :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: nickoreno on October 02, 2009, 12:41:38 AM
Podxt live user here but quite unhappy. Gusto ko makatry ng iba pang pedals. I wanna try the ax3000g. May soundclips ka ba dyan sir the direct recording??
nakaw sir konting tweak lang yan panis ang korg... kung direct sa pa.. pati pang recording... i'm xtl user before unfortunately nasira kaya switch ako sa gt-10 pero di ako masaya kapag naka direct sya sa pc ko unlike xtl dikit talaga tunog sa backing tracks.. pero kapag live naman monster talaga gt-10...
eto videoclip ng xtl direct sa pc http://nickoreno.multiply.com/video/item/10/70s_backing_track_jam eto naman sa amp.. http://nickoreno.multiply.com/video/item/5/bakulo_band_-_munting_paraiso_Razorback_cover medyo ok din...
eto nman ung gt10 sa direct pc recording http://nickoreno.multiply.com/music/item/3/blues eto ung sa amp
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on October 02, 2009, 07:47:12 AM
nakaw sir konting tweak lang yan panis ang korg... kung direct sa pa.. pati pang recording... i'm xtl user before unfortunately nasira kaya switch ako sa gt-10 pero di ako masaya kapag naka direct sya sa pc ko unlike xtl dikit talaga tunog sa backing tracks.. pero kapag live naman monster talaga gt-10...
eto videoclip ng xtl direct sa pc http://nickoreno.multiply.com/video/item/10/70s_backing_track_jam eto naman sa amp.. http://nickoreno.multiply.com/video/item/5/bakulo_band_-_munting_paraiso_Razorback_cover medyo ok din...
eto nman ung gt10 sa direct pc recording http://nickoreno.multiply.com/music/item/3/blues eto ung sa amp
unhappy talaga ako sa recording nito. Lalo na pag amp. :-D
ito mga takes ko..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on October 02, 2009, 07:51:55 AM
nakaw sir konting tweak lang yan panis ang korg... kung direct sa pa.. pati pang recording... i'm xtl user before unfortunately nasira kaya switch ako sa gt-10 pero di ako masaya kapag naka direct sya sa pc ko unlike xtl dikit talaga tunog sa backing tracks.. pero kapag live naman monster talaga gt-10...
eto videoclip ng xtl direct sa pc http://nickoreno.multiply.com/video/item/10/70s_backing_track_jam
sir itong 70s backing track po ba ay direct sa pc? parang cam ang ginamit..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: win32dotex on October 02, 2009, 08:28:20 AM
mga bros,
nag record kami, DIY lang ang pagkakasetup... amps then connected to a mixer then connect to computer thru line out sa mixer then line in sa laptop...
ang tanung ko panu ko makukuha ung tunog ng amps, na pagrecord parang sa amps pa din... umiiba kasi ang tunog bro sa live and sa PC na... parang ang nipis...
what would u suggest? ty!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on October 02, 2009, 08:45:55 AM
nag record kami, DIY lang ang pagkakasetup... amps then connected to a mixer then connect to computer thru line out sa mixer then line in sa laptop...
ang tanung ko panu ko makukuha ung tunog ng amps, na pagrecord parang sa amps pa din... umiiba kasi ang tunog bro sa live and sa PC na... parang ang nipis...
what would u suggest? ty!
Iba talaga tunog nyan pag live compared sa recording. madaming factor yan bro. One is your soundcard. another is mic quality and placement. quality ng mixer and cables. At iba pa.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: nickoreno on October 02, 2009, 10:53:53 AM
sir itong 70s backing track po ba ay direct sa pc? parang cam ang ginamit..
cam ung ginamit ko pero ung set up ko dyan.... guitar->podxtl->pc...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ninmei on October 02, 2009, 12:48:50 PM
mas maganda kasi sa pod e gagamitin mo yung natural overdrive/distortion ng amp sims kesa sa kukuha ka ng dirt sa mga pedal sims.
in this way you'll get awesome results, if ever na gagamit ka ng pedal sims ill just add some drive sa amp sims to push the drives more. but beware for muddiness. mas ok kung lalo na pag X3 yung gamit mas responsive siya.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: nickoreno on October 02, 2009, 12:55:36 PM
totoo yun sir medyo panget ung mga dirt ng xtl lalo na kapag gumamit ka ng wah... pero kung ung od/dist ng amp sim gagamitin astig tumunog ang wah....
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: win32dotex on October 02, 2009, 01:04:41 PM
Iba talaga tunog nyan pag live compared sa recording. madaming factor yan bro. One is your soundcard. another is mic quality and placement. quality ng mixer and cables. At iba pa.
thanks bro. siguro we'll try other setup like from MFX straight to the mixer. lets see what happens.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on October 02, 2009, 06:59:21 PM
mas maganda kasi sa pod e gagamitin mo yung natural overdrive/distortion ng amp sims kesa sa kukuha ka ng dirt sa mga pedal sims.
in this way you'll get awesome results, if ever na gagamit ka ng pedal sims ill just add some drive sa amp sims to push the drives more. but beware for muddiness. mas ok kung lalo na pag X3 yung gamit mas responsive siya.
This is actually what I do. Screamer lang gamit ko sa stomp. The usual din just like I use sa analog ts808 ko. vol at max. drive and tone at 0.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on October 04, 2009, 06:01:03 PM
Another recording using Podxt live. I think I'm beginning to like this unit.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: dimasalang on October 05, 2009, 09:05:02 AM
di kapa ba nakakaranas ng gas? :-D ingat ka pag tinamaan ka.. para kang adik na ginigiyang :lol:
buti nga di pa ako na ga-GAS sa mga pedals eh. pero sa mga axe. awwww
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lykenhowl on October 05, 2009, 10:13:22 AM
POD XT live VS GNX3000..... Checked harmony central and the GNX is more preferred than the XTL. May nakapagshoot-out na ba ng 2 mfx na to?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on October 05, 2009, 10:55:15 AM
It's not that easy to compare... medyo magkaiba kasi yung approaches ng design e. If people think the GNX3000 sounds better live or whatnot, that's cool. But there's no way it can beat the XTL's connectivity and software support -- very useful for PC recording.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: explorer33 on October 09, 2009, 01:21:13 AM
question: mas ok ba gamitin ang wah na built-in sa multi fx unit (like boss Me-50, ME-70, VOX Tonelab LE, SE) or mas ok parin pag may external wah pedal? hindi ba nagiging mahirap iset-up ng sobra ung tone pag my external wah and/or distortion pedal sa chain?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: patchpanel on October 09, 2009, 11:36:19 AM
question: mas ok ba gamitin ang wah na built-in sa multi fx unit (like boss Me-50, ME-70, VOX Tonelab LE, SE) or mas ok parin pag may external wah pedal? hindi ba nagiging mahirap iset-up ng sobra ung tone pag my external wah and/or distortion pedal sa chain?
IMO, I really dont like wahs from multi-effect. The closest that satisfies my ear are from the POD X3L. I would still prefer putting in an external wah.
:-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on October 09, 2009, 05:28:18 PM
question: mas ok ba gamitin ang wah na built-in sa multi fx unit (like boss Me-50, ME-70, VOX Tonelab LE, SE) or mas ok parin pag may external wah pedal? hindi ba nagiging mahirap iset-up ng sobra ung tone pag my external wah and/or distortion pedal sa chain?
mas ok parin ang external wah. hindi naman sya mahirap isetup. just like setting up a chain of effects.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Mindovermatter on October 09, 2009, 05:50:53 PM
Ito lang ang gamit kong multi. Medyo naging dependent ako sa stompbox, pero maganda pa rin. :-) (http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m165/311_01/IMG_0138.jpg)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: dimasalang on October 09, 2009, 05:58:42 PM
eto naman ang sakin. ok na siya sa gigs. satisfied naman ako, wag lang sana ma GAS attack. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: explorer33 on October 11, 2009, 12:32:39 AM
thanks po sa mga sumagot sa tanong ko. :-D natanong ko lang din kasi wala pa ako narinig na magandang wah sound sa multi fx unit. mejo tunog laruan kasi. meron ba sa inyo na gumagamit ng multi fx para lang sa modulation lang?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ninmei on October 12, 2009, 09:51:41 PM
thanks po sa mga sumagot sa tanong ko. :-D natanong ko lang din kasi wala pa ako narinig na magandang wah sound sa multi fx unit. mejo tunog laruan kasi. meron ba sa inyo na gumagamit ng multi fx para lang sa modulation lang?
have you heard the pod x3l's wah sims? check them out.
ako dati yung may cool cat drive at bad monkeh tas may g2 ako.. ginagamit ko na lang yung g2 sa mod and delays.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on October 12, 2009, 10:22:39 PM
pagmay naglabas ng katumbas or higit pa neto un mga mga boss,vox,line 6 etc. magpapalit na ako, ok na ok un jamman looper! :evil:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: junkfazz on October 12, 2009, 11:28:30 PM
Penge naman tips sa mixing from bahay to live gigs.
Kakashift ko lang from analog to multifx, sa bahay, warm at di masyadong sharp ang tunog ng OD ko, them pagdating ng live, bumaligtad, it's sharp, nawala ang pagiging warm, at masakit sa tenga.
Di pa ako masyado sanay sa multifx. Penge naman tips haha.
Thanks!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on October 13, 2009, 01:35:21 AM
Penge naman tips sa mixing from bahay to live gigs.
Kakashift ko lang from analog to multifx, sa bahay, warm at di masyadong sharp ang tunog ng OD ko, them pagdating ng live, bumaligtad, it's sharp, nawala ang pagiging warm, at masakit sa tenga.
Di pa ako masyado sanay sa multifx. Penge naman tips haha.
Thanks!
bili ka ng eq. or isaksak mo un multifx mo sa send fx loop ng amp. or pwede rin PA system.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: junkfazz on October 13, 2009, 11:40:58 AM
kadalasan matalas un mga mutli. ang ginagawa ko ay more mids 8 and bass 6. pero un treble naglalaro lang 3-5. depende sa amp. kaya usefull un external eq kasi mabilis mattweak un preffered tone ng hindi kakalikot sa mga presets.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: junkfazz on October 13, 2009, 03:21:55 PM
kadalasan matalas un mga mutli. ang ginagawa ko ay more mids 8 and bass 6. pero un treble naglalaro lang 3-5. depende sa amp. kaya usefull un external eq kasi mabilis mattweak un preffered tone ng hindi kakalikot sa mga presets.
sige sige. salmaat sa tip sir. :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jjgalvan on October 13, 2009, 03:29:23 PM
My korgax10g and zoom g2 tandem :-D love it! (http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww214/fakebook_14/IMGP0325.jpg)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: junkfazz on October 13, 2009, 04:33:31 PM
Penge naman tips sa mixing from bahay to live gigs.
Kakashift ko lang from analog to multifx, sa bahay, warm at di masyadong sharp ang tunog ng OD ko, them pagdating ng live, bumaligtad, it's sharp, nawala ang pagiging warm, at masakit sa tenga.
Di pa ako masyado sanay sa multifx. Penge naman tips haha.
Thanks!
gumawa ka ng dalawang patch, 1 live patch 1 studio o amp mo sa bahay na patch. works for me :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on October 13, 2009, 05:15:00 PM
I'll join the chorus of Axe-FX praises if and when I get to try one for myself.
kadalasan matalas un mga mutli. ang ginagawa ko ay more mids 8 and bass 6. pero un treble naglalaro lang 3-5. depende sa amp. kaya usefull un external eq kasi mabilis mattweak un preffered tone ng hindi kakalikot sa mga presets.
But the G2 already has a built-in 6-band EQ. Mas madami ba sa G9.2tt? In principle, there's really no need for a separate EQ pedal.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: patchpanel on October 13, 2009, 05:34:07 PM
Penge naman tips sa mixing from bahay to live gigs.
Kakashift ko lang from analog to multifx, sa bahay, warm at di masyadong sharp ang tunog ng OD ko, them pagdating ng live, bumaligtad, it's sharp, nawala ang pagiging warm, at masakit sa tenga.
Di pa ako masyado sanay sa multifx. Penge naman tips haha.
Thanks!
Naranasan ko to dati nung mix-setup ako...analog dirt and digital modulation. I adjust both for a "Live" sound. I get my eq from the mfx.
Now, I ditched the mfx and got an X3L. One for direct, and one for amp! hehehe :mrgreen:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: win32dotex on October 14, 2009, 08:11:13 AM
Penge naman tips sa mixing from bahay to live gigs.
Kakashift ko lang from analog to multifx, sa bahay, warm at di masyadong sharp ang tunog ng OD ko, them pagdating ng live, bumaligtad, it's sharp, nawala ang pagiging warm, at masakit sa tenga.
Di pa ako masyado sanay sa multifx. Penge naman tips haha.
Thanks!
The difference in sounds between your home tone and gig tone is caused by The Fletcher Munson Effect. It basically means nahihirapan ang tenga nating makarinig ng bass and treble at low volumes. That's why iba yung sound mo sa bahay vs. sound sa stage.
When we mix our rig's eq at home, we usually don't crank our amp/headphone output, right? Hinay-hinay lang, para di makaistorbo. When we mix this way, we usually crank our bass and treble, because at low volumes rinig na rinig natin ang mids pero hindi masyado yung lows and highs (Fletcher Munson Effect). Tuloy, pag plug in natin sa gig, our sound suddenly sounds muddy and/or super-harsh, kasi yung tinaas nating bass and treble sa bahay, mas maingay na ngayon at gig level.
Unfortunately, ganun talaga ang tenga natin. At high volume normal ang pandinig, but at low volume, "ngongo", so we have to learn to compensate. When we set our multieffects at home, get a good initial sound, then slowly lower bass and treble. It won't sound good at home, but you'll hear a more balanced sound onstage.
Another thing you can do is invest in a BBE Sonic Maximizer. If you put this between your multieffects output and the amp, matitimpla mo yung bass and treble without having to touch your multieffects settings.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on October 15, 2009, 11:20:58 AM
The difference in sounds between your home tone and gig tone is caused by The Fletcher Munson Effect. It basically means nahihirapan ang tenga nating makarinig ng bass and treble at low volumes. That's why iba yung sound mo sa bahay vs. sound sa stage.
When we mix our rig's eq at home, we usually don't crank our amp/headphone output, right? Hinay-hinay lang, para di makaistorbo. When we mix this way, we usually crank our bass and treble, because at low volumes rinig na rinig natin ang mids pero hindi masyado yung lows and highs (Fletcher Munson Effect). Tuloy, pag plug in natin sa gig, our sound suddenly sounds muddy and/or super-harsh, kasi yung tinaas nating bass and treble sa bahay, mas maingay na ngayon at gig level.
Unfortunately, ganun talaga ang tenga natin. At high volume normal ang pandinig, but at low volume, "ngongo", so we have to learn to compensate. When we set our multieffects at home, get a good initial sound, then slowly lower bass and treble. It won't sound good at home, but you'll hear a more balanced sound onstage.
Another thing you can do is invest in a BBE Sonic Maximizer. If you put this between your multieffects output and the amp, matitimpla mo yung bass and treble without having to touch your multieffects settings.
yup! kaya may separate EQ pedal rin ako kasi di ko pa afford un BBE Sonic Maximizer :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: win32dotex on October 15, 2009, 01:47:23 PM
kaya sa bahay headphones lang gamit ko and then sa amps dun ko sa send efx loop iplug...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: junkfazz on October 15, 2009, 04:35:37 PM
The difference in sounds between your home tone and gig tone is caused by The Fletcher Munson Effect. It basically means nahihirapan ang tenga nating makarinig ng bass and treble at low volumes. That's why iba yung sound mo sa bahay vs. sound sa stage.
When we mix our rig's eq at home, we usually don't crank our amp/headphone output, right? Hinay-hinay lang, para di makaistorbo. When we mix this way, we usually crank our bass and treble, because at low volumes rinig na rinig natin ang mids pero hindi masyado yung lows and highs (Fletcher Munson Effect). Tuloy, pag plug in natin sa gig, our sound suddenly sounds muddy and/or super-harsh, kasi yung tinaas nating bass and treble sa bahay, mas maingay na ngayon at gig level.
Unfortunately, ganun talaga ang tenga natin. At high volume normal ang pandinig, but at low volume, "ngongo", so we have to learn to compensate. When we set our multieffects at home, get a good initial sound, then slowly lower bass and treble. It won't sound good at home, but you'll hear a more balanced sound onstage.
Another thing you can do is invest in a BBE Sonic Maximizer. If you put this between your multieffects output and the amp, matitimpla mo yung bass and treble without having to touch your multieffects settings.
Ooh I see. Naliwanagan na ako kung bakit ganun ang ngyayari. Maraming salamat sir. :)
Buti binigyan mo ako ng idea sa BBE. :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paranoid on October 15, 2009, 07:38:22 PM
BBE Sonic Maximizer. :evil:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: egpogi on October 16, 2009, 08:35:18 AM
Mga bro,me gumagamit ba sa inyo ng boss me 70? me nakita kase ko sa yupangco greenhills natetemp akung bilin. stomps gamit ko parang gusto ko na mag multy. ok kaya yung me 70? :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ninmei on October 18, 2009, 12:41:21 PM
Mga bro,me gumagamit ba sa inyo ng boss me 70? me nakita kase ko sa yupangco greenhills natetemp akung bilin. stomps gamit ko parang gusto ko na mag multy. ok kaya yung me 70? :-)
ayoko nun walang .8 note delay setting :roll:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: rockstan on October 18, 2009, 12:51:44 PM
Mga bro,me gumagamit ba sa inyo ng boss me 70? me nakita kase ko sa yupangco greenhills natetemp akung bilin. stomps gamit ko parang gusto ko na mag multy. ok kaya yung me 70? :-)
me 70 super daling gamitin. nakapag try ako. pero kung may stomps ka wg mo na sayangin. dating stomps din ako pero ngaun gt 8 na. ang daling mag tweak dito super! :D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: egpogi on October 19, 2009, 10:17:37 PM
tnx sa impo mga bro.problema kase sa stomps ko e pag nagloko yung patchcable apektado na tugtog mo.mga 14pcs na pedal nasa board ko kaya pag me naglokong cable medyo mahirap hanapin.dami kasing features ng me 70 kaya parang na tritripan ko.at di naman sya masyadong mahal parang ka presyo lang ng 3 boss pedal. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: red_hot on October 20, 2009, 09:22:20 AM
tnx sa impo mga bro.problema kase sa stomps ko e pag nagloko yung patchcable apektado na tugtog mo.mga 14pcs na pedal nasa board ko kaya pag me naglokong cable medyo mahirap hanapin.dami kasing features ng me 70 kaya parang na tritripan ko.at di naman sya masyadong mahal parang ka presyo lang ng 3 boss pedal. :-)
ganda nyan lalu na kung makakahiram ako hehehehe hiraman na lang analog ako
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: neil_tin on October 20, 2009, 06:36:28 PM
mg sir help naman i have a korg ax1500g and my original plan is lahat ng modultations ko dun and ung dirt ko nakahiwalay, but here is the thing pag sinaksakan ko na ng analog nag totone suck... sorry im a newbie sa digital anytips? peace
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on October 20, 2009, 06:51:50 PM
mg sir help naman i have a korg ax1500g and my original plan is lahat ng modultations ko dun and ung dirt ko nakahiwalay, but here is the thing pag sinaksakan ko na ng analog nag totone suck... sorry im a newbie sa digital anytips? peace
Looper ang kelangan mo sir. PM me kung interested ka. I can make you one. Set A for your korg. Set B for your dirt. True bypass pag nakadisengage. Para sa korg mo, one stomp lang hindi na sya masasama sa signal.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: neil_tin on October 20, 2009, 09:02:37 PM
Looper ang kelangan mo sir. PM me kung interested ka. I can make you one. Set A for your korg. Set B for your dirt. True bypass pag nakadisengage. Para sa korg mo, one stomp lang hindi na sya masasama sa signal.
ahh cge pag isipan ko e panu kung isasabay ko ung modulation nung korg sa analog na dirt?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on October 20, 2009, 09:06:23 PM
Just turn both sets A and B :-) pwede mong pagsabayin..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: dr. evil on November 04, 2009, 12:24:49 AM
sir.. pa help nmn.. anong klaseng timpla meron sa patch ni2..? kc meron ako ngaun BOSS ME-20.. e2 po ung video Robert Marcello performs suing ME-20..
especially ung part sa 0:40.. salamat po..
bro harmonizer kailangan mo pra makuha mo yung tunog na yan.alam ko walang ganitong feature yung me 20.me pre recorded tune na ginamit sa video na sinabayan lang tapos yung part ng riff binago nya yung key kaya parang me harmonizer effect :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: iSatriani on November 10, 2009, 05:05:09 PM
magkano nmn kya ung harmonizer na un..?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on November 10, 2009, 10:50:32 PM
Mga sir any reviews sa G9? :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: iSatriani on November 11, 2009, 10:22:50 AM
mga bossing.. required ba tlga ibili ng mamahaling adaptor ang mga multi-effects..? or ok lng ung mumurahin.. ung nabibili sa lazer..? help nmn po..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: iSatriani on November 11, 2009, 10:28:55 AM
is it safe to use other type of AC adaptor as long as DC9v..?? i have a boss ME-20 and i have the adaptor worth 315 from lazer.. is it okay..? or i really need to buy the boss PSA adaptor..? thanks guys..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on November 11, 2009, 10:32:41 AM
is it safe to use other type of AC adaptor as long as DC9v..?? i have a boss ME-20 and i have the adaptor worth 315 from lazer.. is it okay..? or i really need to buy the boss PSA adaptor..? thanks guys..
Usually sir basta 9v yung kailangan ng multi, ok gamitan yan ng ibang power supply basta 9v din. Para sure, dalhin ninyo nalang sa Lazer yung ME-20 tapos ask ninyo sa kanila. Pero in my experience ok naman yan. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: iSatriani on November 11, 2009, 10:34:35 AM
Usually sir basta 9v yung kailangan ng multi, ok gamitan yan ng ibang power supply basta 9v din. Para sure, dalhin ninyo nalang sa Lazer yung ME-20 tapos ask ninyo sa kanila. Pero in my experience ok naman yan. :-)
nkbli n po ako.. bali bumili muna ko ng adaptor sa lazer.. then ngaun lng dumating ung ME-20 gling ky mama.. ngbbsa ako ng manual.. so natatakot lng ako isalpak ung nabili ko.. pro 9V din nmn xa.. wahehehe.. this is my first bnew multi effects po kc. .wahehe..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on November 11, 2009, 10:43:36 AM
nkbli n po ako.. bali bumili muna ko ng adaptor sa lazer.. then ngaun lng dumating ung ME-20 gling ky mama.. ngbbsa ako ng manual.. so natatakot lng ako isalpak ung nabili ko.. pro 9V din nmn xa.. wahehehe.. this is my first bnew multi effects po kc. .wahehe..
Wow ayus yan sir!!Naalala ko tuloy yung nagkaroon ako ng bnew na GFX5!!Nakabox pa nung dumating sa akin pero walang power supply.Ang tagal kong ginamit na battery powered.Naubos na pera ko kakabili ng battery kaya ginawa ko naglakas loob akong gamitin yung power suppply ng wireless phone namin(na saktong 9v din ang output) na hindi na nagagamit. Ayun and the rest is history of tweaking and jammings with my GFX5 powered by the powered by the psu ng wireless phone. haha!! KWento lang. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on November 11, 2009, 11:59:49 AM
Wow ayus yan sir!!Naalala ko tuloy yung nagkaroon ako ng bnew na GFX5!!Nakabox pa nung dumating sa akin pero walang power supply.Ang tagal kong ginamit na battery powered.Naubos na pera ko kakabili ng battery kaya ginawa ko naglakas loob akong gamitin yung power suppply ng wireless phone namin(na saktong 9v din ang output) na hindi na nagagamit. Ayun and the rest is history of tweaking and jammings with my GFX5 powered by the powered by the psu ng wireless phone. haha!! KWento lang. :-D
wahehehe..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on November 12, 2009, 01:00:48 PM
Hey guys, nga pala matagal ko ng gusto tanong ito e, may nakagamit na ba ng RACK MOUNT multieffects sa inyo? pano ba to nagwowork? kasi i saw Butch Victoriano of south border dati using one, midi pedals lang nasa floor nya tapos nakaconnect sya sa rack mounted effects processor, bakit wala ata akong naririnig na gumagamit nito?(hasel lang ba o di maganda tunog o mahal)
The only big difference I can see is when youre playing LIVE pag floorbased multi KA ang signal path mo guitar>multi/efx>amp the least 2 cables ok na pag nag rack mount ka you need a seperate controller(either MIDI or FET switching Netwok) to change patches and engage the efx and medyo hassle sa set up at sa buhatan unless me roadie ka..pero sa tunog me rackmount na maganda meron din floorbased na maganda and sometimes pedals are better depende sa tugtugan.
The difference in sounds between your home tone and gig tone is caused by The Fletcher Munson Effect. It basically means nahihirapan ang tenga nating makarinig ng bass and treble at low volumes. That's why iba yung sound mo sa bahay vs. sound sa stage.........Another thing you can do is invest in a BBE Sonic Maximizer. If you put this between your multieffects output and the amp, matitimpla mo yung bass and treble without having to touch your multieffects settings.
So True man..kaya ako di ko inaalis sa RACK ko yung BBE SONIC MAXIMIZER 422A I bought the newer BBE 482i papalitan ko sana yung 422 buti na lang di ko pa nabenta i ended up selling the 482i for me the best yung 422A.
Heres my rack set up for recordings and some of them for live use.
From Top To Bottom
RACK RIDER-Power Conditioner and Light Module(basically a REGULATED MULTIPLE AC SOCKETS with 2 pull out light in case its dark in the venue.
ART MULTIVERB EXT- FOR MODULATION/DELAY/HARMONIZER
BOSS SE 50 (HALF RACK)STEREO EFFECTS PROCESSOR (GUITAR/VOCALS)
ROLAND DEP-5 MODULATION/DELAY NICE CHORUS AND FLANGER SOUNDS
DIGITECH GSP 21 RACK MULTI EFX ALSO GOOD FOR CLASSIC ROCK/METAL SOUND with its own controller
ROLAND XV5050 MULTI TIMBRAL SOUND MODULE FOR MIDI/SEQUENCING APPLICATIONS/sometimes i trigger it with the gr33.
CDT CDM -2 CHAMP DUAL COMPRESSOR a nice compressor for GUITAR and VOCALS
Behringer ultra voice 2496 voice processor for VOCAL comp/de esser/expander
BBE SONIC MAXIMIZER 422A - to preserve the ooomphhhh in your tone
KORG DTR 1000 Tuner-with strobe mode
BEHRINGER Ultra patch pro - this is very important to keep your sanity without this youll go crazy hooking up all your modules with each other/to your PC or DIGITAL RECORDER
and I also use the ff.
DIGITECH VOCALIST live 4 -basically you hook it up to your MIC AND Guitar>>AMP/MIXER then it gives you up to 4 part vocal harmonies based on the chords youre using (with built in chorus and reverb for the guitar& mic) BOSS GT-10 ROLAND'S FLAGSHIP FLOOR BASED MULTI EFFECTS TO DATE
ROLAND GR-33 GUITAR SYTH MODULE
But sometimes we still resort back to the good ole' pedals ,the purest an overdriven tube amp
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: 40seconds on November 22, 2009, 09:48:33 PM
Hingi lang po ako opinions mga sir!
Nag lilista kasi ako ng soon to be mine multieffects at medyo nag kakaproblema ako sa tatlong items na kinukumpara ko. So iniisip ko po ano po ba mas maganda zoom gfx5, korg ax1500g oh line6 floorpod? yang tatlo po ang nirarank ko ngayon (aside from the other multifx na narank ko na), thanks po sa makakatulong!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paranoid on November 23, 2009, 08:49:19 PM
Nag lilista kasi ako ng soon to be mine multieffects at medyo nag kakaproblema ako sa tatlong items na kinukumpara ko. So iniisip ko po ano po ba mas maganda zoom gfx5, korg ax1500g oh line6 floorpod? yang tatlo po ang nirarank ko ngayon (aside from the other multifx na narank ko na), thanks po sa makakatulong!
Floor POD for me.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: rockstan on November 23, 2009, 08:56:04 PM
Ayun salamat ser! Antay na lang po ako ng iba pang input mula sa iba. repost ko lang tanong ko lol.
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Hingi lang po ako opinions mga sir!
Nag lilista kasi ako ng soon to be mine multieffects at medyo nag kakaproblema ako sa tatlong items na kinukumpara ko. So iniisip ko po ano po ba mas maganda zoom gfx5, korg ax1500g oh line6 floorpod? yang tatlo po ang nirarank ko ngayon (aside from the other multifx na narank ko na), thanks po sa makakatulong!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on November 24, 2009, 12:53:12 PM
Tunog digital ba distortions ng GT10 kapag direct?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: deewantoy_11 on November 24, 2009, 06:27:55 PM
Pwede ba dito g1x ko? Takte. Puro halimaw na multi andito ah. :lol:
buti na lang wala ako pera. Kaya di tatablan ng GAS
Magkakaron din ako nang gt8 na yan. :evil:
parang ang sarap laruin. :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on November 24, 2009, 06:35:47 PM
slight, pero thanks sa parametric eq and other tone controls nababawasan yun pagkadigital na :wink:
Aww too bad...Was planning tio trade my TLLE for that.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on November 26, 2009, 10:05:16 AM
i think that's subjective. my own take is that it can easily hold its own against the Tonelab or just about any other available digital floor unit out there. i have a bunch of good pedals. GT-10 pa rin ang weapon of choice ko. paired with a decent amp or powered speaker set, it's a little hard to go wrong.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ninmei on November 26, 2009, 10:54:04 AM
i think that's subjective. my own take is that it can easily hold its own against the Tonelab or just about any other available digital floor unit out there. i have a bunch of good pedals. GT-10 pa rin ang weapon of choice ko. paired with a decent amp or powered speaker set, it's a little hard to go wrong.
+1 on my pod x3 too.
lalo na kung may PA ka talaga.. haha its like having lots of arsenal @ your disposal..
feel ko talaga 2 tube amp gamit ko.. may actual TS808 ako at RAT.. haha so much more.. timplahan lang..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on November 26, 2009, 05:05:25 PM
BOSS SE 50 (HALF RACK)STEREO EFFECTS PROCESSOR (GUITAR/VOCALS)
ROLAND DEP-5 MODULATION/DELAY NICE CHORUS AND FLANGER SOUNDS
DIGITECH GSP 21 RACK MULTI EFX ALSO GOOD FOR CLASSIC ROCK/METAL SOUND with its own controller
ROLAND XV5050 MULTI TIMBRAL SOUND MODULE FOR MIDI/SEQUENCING APPLICATIONS/sometimes i trigger it with the gr33.
CDT CDM -2 CHAMP DUAL COMPRESSOR a nice compressor for GUITAR and VOCALS
Behringer ultra voice 2496 voice processor for VOCAL comp/de esser/expander
BBE SONIC MAXIMIZER 422A - to preserve the ooomphhhh in your tone
KORG DTR 1000 Tuner-with strobe mode
BEHRINGER Ultra patch pro - this is very important to keep your sanity without this youll go crazy hooking up all your modules with each other/to your PC or DIGITAL RECORDER
and I also use the ff.
DIGITECH VOCALIST live 4 -basically you hook it up to your MIC AND Guitar>>AMP/MIXER then it gives you up to 4 part vocal harmonies based on the chords youre using (with built in chorus and reverb for the guitar& mic) BOSS GT-10 ROLAND'S FLAGSHIP FLOOR BASED MULTI EFFECTS TO DATE
ROLAND GR-33 GUITAR SYTH MODULE
But sometimes we still resort back to the good ole' pedals ,the purest an overdriven tube amp
Sir ninmei tanong ko lang. gumagamit ka pa ng ibang dirt pedal na nakacascade sa X3L nyo or X3L lang talaga? :-)
hey sir.. sorry late repz.. in the meantime, X3L lang talaga.. plan ko if papayagan ni Lord kesa mag boutique drive pedals ako mag M9 na lang ako.. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on December 08, 2009, 06:21:20 PM
hey sir.. sorry late repz.. in the meantime, X3L lang talaga.. plan ko if papayagan ni Lord kesa mag boutique drive pedals ako mag M9 na lang ako.. :-D
WOW masmatinding mfx yun sir Ninmei!!! Balitaan nyo ako kung mag-M9 kayo ha!! Gas ako sa X3L eh haha!! :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on December 08, 2009, 06:26:38 PM
i might contact sir turi for an m9 hehe.. pero balak pa lang.. wala pa cash.. cool ng x3l.. pramis.. one band box na din kasi..
Naku magkano ba presyohan ng M9 ngayon? Bakit kaya hindi magM9 si Lincoln B.?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tweenty-seven on December 09, 2009, 10:45:38 AM
ano ba common na sira ng mga multi effects? yung akin kasi kapag naka dirt pedal parang ma ugong na.. tapos kahit di mo ginagalaw may time na biglang na pupunta sa settings ng drive or volume.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on December 09, 2009, 10:58:19 AM
ano ba common na sira ng mga multi effects? yung akin kasi kapag naka dirt pedal parang ma ugong na.. tapos kahit di mo ginagalaw may time na biglang na pupunta sa settings ng drive or volume.
tact switch - sa deeco or alexan may nabibili tact switch na 50pesos lang for replacement
scratchy pots - gnun din, sa deeco or alexan. typically un pots na ginagamit sa mutli ay katulad sa mga behringer pedals.
pagmoist sa internal circuits - eto pinamalala para sakin. kasi naencounter ko na ito sa mga zoom unit like 606 pababa, na yung likod ay may bukas un cover kaya madaling mapasok ng moist and dirt. which lead to pagkasi ng IC and other components
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ninmei on December 09, 2009, 01:33:59 PM
Naku magkano ba presyohan ng M9 ngayon? Bakit kaya hindi magM9 si Lincoln B.?
399$ new in the US? sa other forum na pinupuntahan ko (guitarpraise forum) medyo sikat yung M9/M13 dun, kay pati ako na gas na gas don..
hayaan ko muna mag mura yung M9 pero matagal na matagal pa yun kasi fresh pa lang ngayon eh.. i believe Lincoln Brewster is using the Mother of All mother multi effects in the world.. haha. he ditched the POD X3L for that.. AXE FX ULTRA :evil: :evil:
http://guitarpraise.17.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=6598&highlight=lincold+brewster+ditched+pod and this http://www.fractalaudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9851&start=20
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tapslore on December 09, 2009, 06:10:21 PM
wow. i stopped having GAS when i got my x3L, but the axe fx is getting me restless :-D. but the thought of customs people salivating over how much they'd tax me if they saw this in the mail... no thanks :-P. i don't pray for toys, but i'd pray for this one hehe
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on December 09, 2009, 08:37:37 PM
399$ new in the US? sa other forum na pinupuntahan ko (guitarpraise forum) medyo sikat yung M9/M13 dun, kay pati ako na gas na gas don..
hayaan ko muna mag mura yung M9 pero matagal na matagal pa yun kasi fresh pa lang ngayon eh.. i believe Lincoln Brewster is using the Mother of All mother multi effects in the world.. haha. he ditched the POD X3L for that.. AXE FX ULTRA :evil: :evil:
http://guitarpraise.17.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=6598&highlight=lincold+brewster+ditched+pod and this http://www.fractalaudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9851&start=20
Naku huli na pala ako sa balita!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Parang rackmount na ata yung Axe Fx Ultra tama ba sir?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ninmei on December 10, 2009, 10:14:00 AM
wow. i stopped having GAS when i got my x3L, but the axe fx is getting me restless :-D. but the thought of customs people salivating over how much they'd tax me if they saw this in the mail... no thanks :-P. i don't pray for toys, but i'd pray for this one hehe
yeah me too man.. i stopped gassing when i had my x3l.. its really good. very good.. wag lang maglalabas ang line6 ng new POD.. ayan nanaman hahaha! :lol: :lol:
grabe talaga axe-fx..
@xelly
hmm.. yeap.. parang rack effects na yun.. haha 1200$$ new? people spend thousands of dollars for their amps and guitars.. if i had that much money.. id just go for the axe fx! :evil: :evil: yyeaaahh.. sarap naman.. kaw na pinakamalupet na may multi dito sa pinas niyan..
teka... meron ba may ari ng axe fx sa pinas?? :? :?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tapslore on December 10, 2009, 03:22:35 PM
i wouldn't be surprised if a forum member already owned one :-D. the testimonies i see on the net are pretty incredible - they invited these famous sound engineers to do a listening test with recordings from real amps and those made with amplitube, guitar rig etc. and most of them couldn't tell the difference. and axe fx is supposed to be BETTER than those software modellers. let's hope the technology advances so that we can start affording them in a year or two...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ninmei on December 10, 2009, 04:45:00 PM
i wouldn't be surprised if a forum member already owned one :-D. the testimonies i see on the net are pretty incredible - they invited these famous sound engineers to do a listening test with recordings from real amps and those made with amplitube, guitar rig etc. and most of them couldn't tell the difference. and axe fx is supposed to be BETTER than those software modellers. let's hope the technology advances so that we can start affording them in a year or two...
+1 and i think line6 panicked when Lincoln Brewster ditched the POD. Im a line6 man myself.. :-D so let's wait for the new POD gas.. hahah.. hopefully an affordable better amp sims POD.. :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: diaboliche on December 15, 2009, 11:01:07 AM
A friend of mine is using a Zoom gfx 707II. The problem is that it constantly turns itself off and on. The led also becomes distorted. What might be causing these things to happen? Need your advice. Thanks. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tapslore on December 15, 2009, 12:04:39 PM
hmmm that happened to me once with my gt-10; the problem was my psu. multieffects usually have an internal protection circuit that trips when it receives bad current (like when its psu is failing) to protect the board. this could be why it turns on and off.
quick diagnostic - test the zoom's psu with another one of the same make. if the problem disappears, then you need to replace your psu.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tapslore on December 15, 2009, 12:10:20 PM
hopefully an affordable better amp sims POD.. :evil: :evil:
haha i'm actually awed by the amp models of the X3L. did some research on the new spider valve mk2's and it turns out they're basically a simplified X3L paired with a 6L6 power amp. so i had a single-ended 6L6 amp made with Mang Raul/Bamf to plug the X3L into. sounds good! will see if i can post clips of the sound :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: diaboliche on December 15, 2009, 12:11:55 PM
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hmmm that happened to me once with my gt-10; the problem was my psu. multieffects usually have an internal protection circuit that trips when it receives bad current (like when its psu is failing) to protect the board. this could be why it turns on and off.
quick diagnostic - test the zoom's psu with another one of the same make. if the problem disappears, then you need to replace your psu.
Thanks Sir. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ninmei on December 15, 2009, 12:55:09 PM
haha i'm actually awed by the amp models of the X3L. did some research on the new spider valve mk2's and it turns out they're basically a simplified X3L paired with a 6L6 power amp. so i had a single-ended 6L6 amp made with Mang Raul/Bamf to plug the X3L into. sounds good! will see if i can post clips of the sound :-D
cool man.. that sounds great.. but we do have a different use of the pod.. i just go direct and rely on our PA speakers.. not too much.. but its okay.. but yours is ever better! please do make clips! and I always have a speaker in front of me/us for stage volume..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: askwho69 on January 05, 2010, 04:51:24 PM
sakin namn nakabili ako ng line6 floorpod lang namn pero sa tunog ayos na ayos na. pag templahan muloang ng maayos. pero compare talga sa analog. mas malakas at mas clear ang tone nya. Cguro kc hindi talga ganun ka ganda effects ng floorpod or features nya. pero kuntento na ko lalo na sa recording.. maganda ang labas hehehehe sa home recording lng hahahahah
P.s ganda ng Waaah ng floorpod din compare sa mga katapat nyang price
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: shredmaestrobri on January 24, 2010, 11:41:44 AM
My band, Jenitalia, using the Vox Tonelab LE and a Behringer EQ700 This was done direct to the board:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pao2pao16 on January 24, 2010, 11:47:50 AM
Thanks... How's the recording going? Please keep me updated with Clockwork Spiral.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tweenty-seven on January 25, 2010, 09:08:42 AM
may boss gt6 users pa ba dito ngayun? ano ba gagamitin kong out kung gusto ko mag recording sa PC na maganda yung quality at malinis? yung out(mono)> digital out? midi out?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yearling on January 27, 2010, 09:30:23 AM
may boss gt6 users pa ba dito ngayun? ano ba gagamitin kong out kung gusto ko mag recording sa PC na maganda yung quality at malinis? yung out(mono)> digital out? midi out?
Hello sir, I'm still a GT-6 user...hmmm I use the phones out and set the "output select" to "line in/phones"... I use the JCM-120 for Pre-amp and Guv MS for my distortion on my Gt-6...Adobe Audition 3 for recording software
So my set up is...
Guitar--->GT-6--->Line in of PC
Here is a sample of the sound... http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8590267
:-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tweenty-seven on January 27, 2010, 07:51:56 PM
Hello sir, I'm still a GT-6 user...hmmm I use the phones out and set the "output select" to "line in/phones"... I use the JCM-120 for Pre-amp and Guv MS for my distortion on my Gt-6...Adobe Audition 3 for recording software
So my set up is...
Guitar--->GT-6--->Line in of PC
Here is a sample of the sound... http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8590267
:-D :-D :-D
output select? san ko sir babaguhin, sa pc ba or gt6? if gt6 ano po pipindutin ko..new palang ako eh.. thanks :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: jazztimlua on May 24, 2010, 12:01:06 AM
pano po ang Boss ME70? what can you say about it? :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on May 24, 2010, 10:58:36 AM
Mid last year ng mapadaan ako sa thread na ito at naengganyo sa mga multi-effects. Matapos ang isang taon, ang masasabi ko lang, Line6 ang the best sa paggawa ng mga "MULTI" effects!!! Hehe
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: halloweeN.INc. on June 22, 2010, 08:48:29 PM
how about digitech gnx3.. ano masasabi nyo mga bros?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: RedWinG on June 22, 2010, 11:26:03 PM
how about Boss ME-25 in comparison to Zoom G2.1u? halos pareho sila ng price sa music stores eh.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: r_chino18 on June 22, 2010, 11:27:57 PM
sorry po, g2.1nu na pala bago. :-D i was actually eyeing for ME-25 eh...how about compared to Line 6 floor Pod?
if i where you choose either boss and line 6 multi's, but not zoom. mabilis bumaba ang resale value ng zoom. lugi ka pa pagbumili ka ng bagong model ng zoom then after a few months mapapansin mo sa G.A na mababa na yun presyo ng model na binili mo. boss and line 6 units takes 2-3 years bago bumaba ang presyo 2nd hand, kasya sa zoom na 1 year lang iba na agad ang presyo niya pag2nd hand.
imho, mas ok ok ang tunog ng boss and line 6 compared to zoom units.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kurtseth on June 23, 2010, 06:58:05 AM
if i where you choose either boss and line 6 multi's, but not zoom. mabilis bumaba ang resale value ng zoom. lugi ka pa pagbumili ka ng bagong model ng zoom then after a few months mapapansin mo sa G.A na mababa na yun presyo ng model na binili mo. boss and line 6 units takes 2-3 years bago bumaba ang presyo 2nd hand, kasya sa zoom na 1 year lang iba na agad ang presyo niya pag2nd hand.
imho, mas ok ok ang tunog ng boss and line 6 compared to zoom units.
+1
ive read a lot of feedback about the boss me and line 6 units sounding a tad bit more "analog" in comparison to zoom units
zoom units scream out treblish (or matalas like most people say)
the g2 is ok im using it still
but if i were to compare to line 6 and boss me's or gt's they would win hands down IMHO
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: mikebled on June 23, 2010, 10:09:59 AM
Good morning po.I just wanna ask for your opinion re these two multieffects.This might have been raised up already but I just want fresh input since ill be deciding today on which multi to buy.
Are you for the Boss ME-25 or Vox tonelab ST? Based on the reviews ive read both are great.And I wanna know also the switching time from one patch to another. I have a korg ax5g(OT:which im selling by the way..hehehe)and it does have a lag when switching from one patch to the next one.
Thank you and God bless.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on June 23, 2010, 10:18:45 AM
Good morning po.I just wanna ask for your opinion re these two multieffects.This might have been raised up already but I just want fresh input since ill be deciding today on which multi to buy.
Are you for the Boss ME-25 or Vox tonelab ST? Based on the reviews ive read both are great.And I wanna know also the switching time from one patch to another. I have a korg ax5g(OT:which im selling by the way..hehehe)and it does have a lag when switching from one patch to the next one.
Thank you and God bless.
MagPOD XT Live ka nalang sir!! Yung brandnew ng ME-25 kapresyo na ng 2nd hand na XT Live. Matibay pa ang XT live sir. Walang lag sa pagswitch ng patch. SOrry hindi ko nasagot tanong nyo. :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: overdrive/distortion on June 25, 2010, 03:54:35 PM
A friend of mine is using a Zoom gfx 707II. The problem is that it constantly turns itself off and on. The led also becomes distorted. What might be causing these things to happen? Need your advice. Thanks. :-D
baka matagal na sya at over used na.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: .bong. on June 25, 2010, 06:20:27 PM
Meron na ba naka try ng Digitech RP155 dito? Kamusta naman sa live settings? :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: overdrive/distortion on July 02, 2010, 01:15:23 PM
sa experience nyo anong multi effects ang may magandang drive/dist yong mala stompbox ang feel?. sa ibang multifx kasi kung ikaw makikinig sa sounds ay maganda ang quality pero pag tenisting mo na parang may kulang at kahit anong tweak mo bitin pa rin. kaya ginagawa ng iba nag aadd sila ng stomp sa multifx.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on July 02, 2010, 05:56:36 PM
sa experience nyo anong multi effects ang may magandang drive/dist yong mala stompbox ang feel?. sa ibang multifx kasi kung ikaw makikinig sa sounds ay maganda ang quality pero pag tenisting mo na parang may kulang at kahit anong tweak mo bitin pa rin. kaya ginagawa ng iba nag aadd sila ng stomp sa multifx.
IMHO POD X3 Live sir SOLVE!! :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: felixrocks on September 13, 2010, 04:44:31 PM
So, anu ang pinakabest multi effects ngaun? ung pinakamalakas sa lahat? hehe..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: r_chino18 on September 13, 2010, 04:52:12 PM
sa fish roundabout katabi ng sadek music store, mabait yung pinoy na bantay dun, kagabi pinaglaruan ko ng matagal yung mga electroharmonics effects saka gibson guitars nila sya pa mismo nagpapatesting skin hehehe tapos madami silang mga displays na TC effects di ko lang alam kung may mga multi sila
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: firewaterjem on September 13, 2010, 08:33:06 PM
..potek!haha..although kaya dayain sa video yan e..maniniwala ako pag covered sa warranty yung pagnasagasaan ng tanke at di na gumana..papalitan nila..haha
..pero astig sa trip..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: firewaterjem on September 13, 2010, 09:38:53 PM
oo nga e...
kung nilagyan nila ng pre amp tska distortion unit un
kumpleto na siguro buhay ko...
:-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: edward gaper on September 13, 2010, 10:00:37 PM
sir,edward to bgo lng ako d2 gamit ko vox tonelab le series meron b gumagawa nun d2 s pinas kc ncra nwala ung display at nwala output nya nw d ko mgamit ngyon?una ncra pedal pinagawa ko kay sir max ngawa nman pero nung magawa nwala ung dsplay at output nya...san ko kya pwde sya dalin para mapaayos ko agad sayang kc e...u cn txt me or col 09214950880 para mlaman ko kung sn ko pwde ipagawa pra maayos n agad tnx sir....sna msgot mo po ung mga katanungan ko bout s gamit ko...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: firewaterjem on September 13, 2010, 10:14:15 PM
sir,edward to bgo lng ako d2 gamit ko vox tonelab le series meron b gumagawa nun d2 s pinas kc ncra nwala ung display at nwala output nya nw d ko mgamit ngyon?una ncra pedal pinagawa ko kay sir max ngawa nman pero nung magawa nwala ung dsplay at output nya...san ko kya pwde sya dalin para mapaayos ko agad sayang kc e...u cn txt me or col 09214950880 para mlaman ko kung sn ko pwde ipagawa pra maayos n agad tnx sir....sna msgot mo po ung mga katanungan ko bout s gamit ko...
ime-message ko ung tropa ko na gumagawa ng electronic units...
magme-message na lang un sa iyo, ibibigay ko number mo...
try mo din mag tanong sa mga electronic repair shops...
alam nila yan.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on September 13, 2010, 10:41:42 PM
sir,edward to bgo lng ako d2 gamit ko vox tonelab le series meron b gumagawa nun d2 s pinas kc ncra nwala ung display at nwala output nya nw d ko mgamit ngyon?una ncra pedal pinagawa ko kay sir max ngawa nman pero nung magawa nwala ung dsplay at output nya...san ko kya pwde sya dalin para mapaayos ko agad sayang kc e...u cn txt me or col 09214950880 para mlaman ko kung sn ko pwde ipagawa pra maayos n agad tnx sir....sna msgot mo po ung mga katanungan ko bout s gamit ko...
Check my thread, hopefully minor lang ang problem yan :wink:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: edward gaper on September 14, 2010, 02:17:04 AM
san ung exact location nyo sir?pg intramuros na?txt nyo 09214950880 mgkano po kaya?bsta wla po out put pti dsplay wla dn po pero umiilaw p rn po..bka papalitan ko n dn ng mga led lyt..san po kau bka ths wik dlin ko po kc wla me mgmit s mga gigs ko po..
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: paranoid on September 14, 2010, 11:34:50 AM
Guys, may heavy metal/nu-metal drive or preamp ba sa POD XT Live?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: accento24 on September 14, 2010, 07:57:23 PM
sir edward, bawal po ang text spelling dito, baka po masita kayo ng moderators...
anyway, welcome po sa philmusic.... :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on September 14, 2010, 08:30:24 PM
Guys, may heavy metal/nu-metal drive or preamp ba sa POD XT Live?
Check nyo sa thread na ito sir malaki matutulong nito. :-D http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,156692.0.html (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,156692.0.html)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ninmei on September 15, 2010, 09:44:28 PM
wow never heard of those before, I'll have to check them out :)
Definitely worth checking them out. I never got the chance to test or even hear one. But I heard rumors that its gonna smoke some of the top of the line high end MFX producers out there.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on September 17, 2010, 06:02:13 PM
Definitely worth checking them out. I never got the chance to test or even hear one. But I heard rumors that its gonna smoke some of the top of the line high end MFX producers out there.
Tamaaaaaa!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: pualux on September 17, 2010, 07:55:27 PM
Definitely worth checking them out. I never got the chance to test or even hear one. But I heard rumors that its gonna smoke some of the top of the line high end MFX producers out there.
so it's better to wait for that certain product rather than spend my money on one of their current products ?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on September 17, 2010, 11:53:16 PM
Siyempre, waiting is always a key. Kung ako nga nakapaghintay sana noon. I could have gain better gear with cheaper prices.
well said .. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: guitarcrasher on December 03, 2010, 10:47:46 PM
Pasingit po, ako patay na patay sa ZOOM G2Nu hehe. Pinag iipunana ko na sia then bibilang ko na lang ng malupit na expression pedal kasi di ako bilib sa wah pedal na kayang ibuga ng ZOOM. What do you think guys?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: luin_theblue on December 03, 2010, 11:05:11 PM
Pasingit po, ako patay na patay sa ZOOM G2Nu hehe. Pinag iipunana ko na sia then bibilang ko na lang ng malupit na expression pedal kasi di ako bilib sa wah pedal na kayang ibuga ng ZOOM. What do you think guys?
Zoom user here, I suggest you get a real wah. :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on December 03, 2010, 11:28:53 PM
Line 6 Pod HD500 (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WUsyo-0EL._AA1018_.jpg) Yan pinakamakapangyarihang multieffects unit ngayon!!! For more info, check my sig below. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: guitarcrasher on December 03, 2010, 11:34:34 PM
Yeah dude thats on my plan. Anung wah pedal ba maganda bro? Yun pwede ring magmanipulate sa mga effect parameters.
@ Xelly, nice one kaso on tight budget eh haha!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on December 03, 2010, 11:48:35 PM
Kung tight budget naman, go for Line 6 Pod HD300!!! http://www.bananasmusic.com/multimedia/1363/FullImage/1363.jpg (http://www.bananasmusic.com/multimedia/1363/FullImage/1363.jpg) Same tone as the HD500 but with more simple user interface!!! Check this link for details: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,211928.0.html (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,211928.0.html) :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: guitarcrasher on December 03, 2010, 11:57:03 PM
Kung tight budget naman, go for Line 6 Pod HD300!!! http://www.bananasmusic.com/multimedia/1363/FullImage/1363.jpg (http://www.bananasmusic.com/multimedia/1363/FullImage/1363.jpg) Same tone as the HD500 but with more simple user interface!!! Check this link for details: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,211928.0.html (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,211928.0.html) :-D
Thanks for your humble suggestion but I'll be getting the ZOOM G2Nu for sure. :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on December 04, 2010, 12:01:43 AM
No prob :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: mikki_blinkme on December 04, 2010, 01:26:45 AM
Thanks for your humble suggestion but I'll be getting the ZOOM G2Nu for sure. :)
yiheee!!!! :-D try mo vox wah.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: guitarcrasher on December 04, 2010, 01:27:51 AM
nice one mikka, cge pagiipunan natin yan...! :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ninmei on December 04, 2010, 01:46:43 PM
I feel so left out because the POD HDs. Man, im soo confused... M9 ba o mag POD HD na. Ganun ba talaga kaganda yung new HD amp models? I fear Im gonna miss the Agro/Line 6 stuffs, Bass features, Vocal features and Pre-amp features...
Is it worth the change? Xelly where are you? Brief nga you both own a X3L and a POD HD500.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: galingnamanon on December 05, 2010, 02:40:09 AM
question din about mfx with usb..pag kinonect sa computer..is the sound that comes out kinda like sound through a PA?and is there a lag..or real time sya?TIA
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ninmei on December 05, 2010, 09:25:58 AM
question din about mfx with usb..pag kinonect sa computer..is the sound that comes out kinda like sound through a PA?and is there a lag..or real time sya?TIA
Depends on the PA kung flat response talaga :) Pero you would be as close as you tweak sa sound.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on December 05, 2010, 11:36:43 AM
I feel so left out because the POD HDs. Man, im soo confused... M9 ba o mag POD HD na. Ganun ba talaga kaganda yung new HD amp models? I fear Im gonna miss the Agro/Line 6 stuffs, Bass features, Vocal features and Pre-amp features...
Is it worth the change? Xelly where are you? Brief nga you both own a X3L and a POD HD500.
Bro kung M9/13 or HD500? HD500. Bakit? HD500 is M13 + 16 HD amp sims + expression pedal + balanced out + A LOT MORE COOL FEATURES!! M13 is M13. Maraming features yung X3live na wala sa HD500 like bass fx & Vocal pre-amps. Pero hindi ko naman ginamit yun. Ginamit ko yung vocal pre-amp nung one time nagrecord ako ng vocals pero ang nangyari sa ending hindi ko rin nagamit. Dry lang yung vocals tapos sa daw na yung eq & fx. So inshort, solve na ako sa mic input ng HD500 kahit walang mic pre-amp. Parang audio interface lang siya. Kaya go na go talaga ako sa HD500. Ano naman malaking disadvantage ng HD500? MAHAL!!!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: mikki_blinkme on December 05, 2010, 11:48:36 AM
sa dami ba naman features e talagang mahal yan. isa pa yung panagalang "line6" :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on December 05, 2010, 12:24:55 PM
sa dami ba naman features e talagang mahal yan. isa pa yung panagalang "line6" :-D
TOMO!!! -Anne Curtis
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: william251082 on December 05, 2010, 02:24:28 PM
Normally I don't really like any digital funniness in my live sound but I gave that TC electronics g system a try, but when I tried to plug in my OD pedals I realized that it sucked some tone! and this is suppose to be the best multifx???!!! :? :| :oops: so no MFX for me in live playing thank you very much.
I use jamvox on practice, ang sarap ng tone.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: galingnamanon on December 05, 2010, 04:13:51 PM
Line 6 Pod HD500 (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61WUsyo-0EL._AA1018_.jpg) Yan pinakamakapangyarihang multieffects unit ngayon!!! For more info, check my sig below. :-D
Oh God...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: angelstalker29 on December 05, 2010, 07:49:43 PM
kung mga below 5k ang budget anu naman pede masuggest nyo?noob pa lang din naman ako.ang nakikita ko palang is zoom g1xn or g1x.anu ba mas bang for buck na multi effects?thanks :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on December 05, 2010, 09:49:34 PM
kung mga below 5k ang budget anu naman pede masuggest nyo?noob pa lang din naman ako.ang nakikita ko palang is zoom g1xn or g1x.anu ba mas bang for buck na multi effects?thanks :-D
Eto malaking nakatulong sa akin bro. Nilista ko yung mga gusto kong features sa multi tapos niarrange ko kung ano yung pinaka kailangan ko tapos saka ako naghanap ng multi. Eto example: 1. Can be used for recording 2. Good for live use 3. 10-15k budget 4. portable
Maspriority ko that time yung pwede siya pangrecording kesa for live use. Sa mga needs ko na yan and based sa top priority ko to least, Line6 XT live that time yung nakita ko na the best. Hopefully makatulong. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: mikki_blinkme on December 05, 2010, 09:51:48 PM
kung mga below 5k ang budget anu naman pede masuggest nyo?noob pa lang din naman ako.ang nakikita ko palang is zoom g1xn or g1x.anu ba mas bang for buck na multi effects?thanks :-D
digitech rp155 or zoom g2.1u sa classifieds 8-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: guitarcrasher on December 06, 2010, 12:04:57 AM
Pareng mikki merong seller ng g2.1u dito sa pinas?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: mikki_blinkme on December 06, 2010, 12:27:49 AM
Pareng mikki merong seller ng g2.1u dito sa pinas?
bnew sa jb music. 2nd hand sa classifieds ng phimusic. ang daming for sale na g2.1u 5k estimation ng price. tapos pa-mod mo kay sir bamf pag stock version sya. PANALO! :evil:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: guitarcrasher on December 06, 2010, 12:43:14 AM
wooops, G1u pala ung hanap ko haha.. with regards sa mod anu ung immod ni sir bamf?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: mikki_blinkme on December 06, 2010, 12:56:07 AM
toinkz.. hehehe. may thread si sir bamf about mods ng mga analogs at multi
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: guitarcrasher on December 06, 2010, 01:08:20 AM
Thanks dude!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on December 06, 2010, 01:18:46 AM
ang mahal pala ng hd500 parang bumili ka na rin ng separate pedals
sa tingin nyo ung hd500 ba kopya na yung tone ng boutique pedals? ano yung tunog ng wah? is it worth it? or pedals parin?
Ang HD500 kasi bro hindi lang collection of stompboxes. Para ka na rin bumili ng amps, microphones for amps, and audio interface all-in-one na. Hanapin mo bro yung Line6 Pod HD user thread dami ka makukuha dun. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: rye715 on April 07, 2011, 09:46:23 AM
Nag-aalngan lang ako sa HD series dahil almost software na ang nagpaptakbo ng buong multi-FX system nya. May mga glitches akong nabasa about it, highlighted pa yung DSP limit nya.
Pero, all-and-all, maganda yung HD500.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on April 07, 2011, 10:26:46 AM
^^ Sa experience ko w/ HD500 nagkaproblema lang ako sa DSP limit kung naka-dual amp ako. Mga 4 or 5 fx nalang magagamit mo. Pero kung single amp ka lang pwede mo punuin ng FX yung 8 fx slots!! Ganito usually setup ko: noise gate >> wah >> tube driver >> OD >> AMP >> EQ >> delay >> another delay >> reverb Yung volume pedal ko inaassign ko sa channel volume knob ng amp para makatipid sa fx slot. SOLVE!! :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ianhisoka47 on April 07, 2011, 11:11:54 PM
Hahah ako yung unang nagtanong at bumuhay sa thread pero ibang tanong yung nasagot. Astig.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: mikki_blinkme on April 07, 2011, 11:15:33 PM
Magkano po kaya ito sir? Naggoogle po ako kadalasan pong lumalabas boss me70 or boss gt-8/gt-10. Anu po mas ok yung Zoom or yung Boss (for beginners)?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lolwat on April 08, 2011, 04:27:47 AM
People, I think I have finally "found" what most people consider so "bad" about multi-effects units' "dirt" sounds and presets, considering that they had been setup well.
If we trace amplified electric guitar playing back to the 60s, we will find that the overdriven guitar sound was but a previously deemed "undesirable" byproduct of a tube guitar amplifier circuit's inability to stay "clean-sounding" when the volume is turned up. It was practically an accident, a flaw of sorts, and yet half a century later it is deemed the definitive rock guitar tone. The "disorderliness" that the overdriven sound practically stands for was what drew many famous guitarists to the electric guitar in the first place. Things like controlled feedback, fuzz, singing sustain, and EVH's "brown sound" would never have been developed if amps back in the day were not made to work too hard. The "magic" that such a setup brings with it is universally recognized.
Now, with amp modelers, the primary goal is to capture that sound, except that the sound would be the same at lower volumes. For those who wish to preserve their hearing, this is good news. While generally we consider analogue effects to be superior to digital all-in-one boxes, it cannot be denied that such devices can also be made to sound great. However, digital effects, at least in my observation, seem to have this particular tendency to sound too "studio-quality" and "predictable" that all the thrill and interaction that an overdriven amp brings into playing guitar is taken away. The only way I could describe it is like having a recording sessions every time one plays in a gig, and whatever is coming out of one's speakers is but a monitor out signal of a mic'ed amp. It can sound nice, but it will never be as "alive" and "dimensional" as an amp moving serious air with big-a$$ loudspeakers.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tjKim on April 08, 2011, 08:28:43 PM
Would you swap your BOSS ME25 to BOSS ME50?
Why?
Coz, I have this dilemma na iswap ang ME25 ko sa ME50 kaya lang may 2nd thoughts pa din... Help me decide naman mga Masters of Multieffects. Thanks in advance.. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on April 09, 2011, 01:04:40 AM
Depende sayo yun bro. Panalo ME-25 sa portability pero panalo naman ME-50 sa ease of use!! Sa value parehas lang ata sila eh. Kung ano maspriority ninyo yung kunin ninyo!! Pero kung ako personally parang masgusto ko yung ME-25 hindi pa ako nakakagamit nun eh. hahaha!!!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: mikki_blinkme on April 09, 2011, 01:07:37 AM
base sa nakita ko sa boss website at mga features lamang na lamang ang me-50.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: iamjoyful on April 09, 2011, 02:31:15 AM
mga sir ano pong specific brand and model ang tingin nyo ok gamitin for modulations and reverb? priority ko sana ung sulit na sulit na tunog na nadedeliver and next factor is ung laki nun effect mismo
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: tjKim on April 09, 2011, 10:29:54 PM
base sa nakita ko sa boss website at mga features lamang na lamang ang me-50.
+10 ako jan sir... Mas madali pang gamitin ung Me50... hayz... ge pag pumayag ung ka swap ko swap kami ng Me 50 nya... salamat sa mga sumagot... :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kilo_pi on April 12, 2011, 04:37:39 AM
Anyone know where i can have the tc electronic g system shipped here? Im cash ready but so far wala akong nakikitang nagshiship ng malakikng multi effects sa pinas dito sa philmusic. :-(
Current multi is a digitech rp1000. Great unit but its time for a major upgrade. :-)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: treblinkalovescene on April 12, 2011, 04:43:36 AM
I've been thinking of getting a Boss ME-50 and using it with my stompboxes. I heard it's lacking in the reverb department and the distortions could be better but I have a distortion pedal I just love and a separate reverb pedal. Tone suck ba if I set it up this way?
Guitar > Korg Pitch Black Tuner (Well, true bypass raw) > Boss HM-2 > Boss ME-50 > Boss RV-2 > Amp
I'm new to this and I haven't given much thought to a setup like this until fairly recently. I have a Behringer FX-600 stompbox which does the job (I use it mostly for tremolo, really) but I'm looking for more options. Viable setup ba to? Is there lag ba if I go from a stompbox into a multifx unit?
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: delaying tactics on June 28, 2011, 10:46:20 AM
may nakapag try na po ba sa inyo ng M-Audio BLACKBOX? ok po ba? thanks
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: spetsnaz1123 on June 28, 2011, 08:09:08 PM
I am gassing for zoom G3, available na ba sa pinas?
Mukhang oras na para idispatsa ang G2.1u ko...
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: yahoo! on June 28, 2011, 08:32:46 PM
may nakapag try na po ba sa inyo ng M-Audio BLACKBOX? ok po ba? thanks
i have one. for what it's worth, it's a fine desktop effects unit for its time. in fact, in my experience, it's much easier to get decent sounds from it than a Line 6 POD XT/X3.
but yes, it's old (not necessarily obsolete because the hardware never got an upgrade). go for it only if you like its sound and have absolutely no intention of reselling it.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on June 29, 2011, 12:48:36 AM
lol... i have one. for what it's worth, it's a fine desktop effects unit for its time. in fact, in my experience, it's much easier to get decent sounds from it than a Line 6 POD XT/X3.
but yes, it's old (not necessarily obsolete because the hardware never got an upgrade). go for it only if you like its sound and have absolutely no intention of reselling it.
Malabo yun! :lol:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: MYN11 on June 29, 2011, 02:39:12 AM
Ngayon ko lang yata nai-post to dito. My trusted multis: (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206291_1804276199438_1615874532_1713896_7156102_n.jpg) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/196638_1804276439444_1615874532_1713897_3598601_n.jpg) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/207701_1804276599448_1615874532_1713899_5006794_n.jpg)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ianhisoka47 on June 29, 2011, 03:20:10 AM
Guys anu mas maganda? Korg AX3000G or Line6 Pod XT Live?
Gusto ko yung pwede gawing stompbox yung mga style nya. Wala ako idea bout sa dalawa eh.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on June 29, 2011, 06:57:12 AM
Para sa gusto mong gawin, you'll have an easier time with the AX3000G. But personally, I wouldn't pick it over the XT Live.
Ngayon ko lang yata nai-post to dito. My trusted multis: (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206291_1804276199438_1615874532_1713896_7156102_n.jpg) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/196638_1804276439444_1615874532_1713897_3598601_n.jpg) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/207701_1804276599448_1615874532_1713899_5006794_n.jpg)
Kung ganito ang mga multi's AYAWAN NA!!! :lol:
@ Ianhisoka47 Panalong-panalo Pod XT live bro.
@ Al Good for you sir!!! :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Al_Librero on June 29, 2011, 08:41:54 PM
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ianhisoka47 on July 01, 2011, 05:30:17 AM
@Xelly Al_Librero
actually siya na yung choice ko. san po makakabili ng mura nito? tsaka nabalitaan kong may lemons ito? help me shed some light on this. stop na kasi siya iproduce kaya I'm kinda cautious din. baka lemons mabili ko.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Xelly on July 01, 2011, 09:43:17 AM
Xtlive ba tinutikoy mo bro? Go for X3live na!! :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: kembot on July 08, 2011, 05:38:00 PM
try this
watta!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ijoejit on July 08, 2011, 08:16:55 PM
Ngayon ko lang yata nai-post to dito. My trusted multis: (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206291_1804276199438_1615874532_1713896_7156102_n.jpg) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/196638_1804276439444_1615874532_1713897_3598601_n.jpg) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/207701_1804276599448_1615874532_1713899_5006794_n.jpg)
Wow! yan ang matinding Multi!
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: wildcardxp on September 18, 2014, 01:04:54 PM
Sirain ba talaga ang Zoom G1XN? After 11 months mula ng mabili ko sya nasira agad then pinagawa ko sa JB SMF tapos nung maayos na after naman ng 15 months nasira na naman. Pinag-iisipan ko kasi kung ipapagawa ko pa, Php. 1700 kasi siningil sa akin dati ng JB SMF. Payo kasi ng kuya ko bumili na lang ako ng mga stompboxes tulad dalawang effects pedal lang naman gamit ko kaso aabot ng 5k yung presyo ng dalawang pedal na yun eh. :|
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: Super BisDak on September 18, 2014, 02:07:48 PM
From experience, sirain talaga ang zoom units particularly on its tact switches. I suggest pagawa mo nalang yan, we have competitive techs here naman makakasave kapa as to labor, then ipon ka nalang to buy analog pedals in the future.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: mon116ph on September 18, 2014, 05:57:51 PM
Sir/mam: I would to ask if you can provide your opinion/recommendation,I am looking for a multi-effects na medyo cheap (my budget is 5K) na pede akong mag save ng riffs & then jam with it (parang loop station), then may accompaniment ng drums/percussion....hope you could provide me some your suggestions and recommendation..and another thing yun bang multi effects na hindi namimili ng amps para tumunog ng maganda, kahit fairly sounding pede na sakin, basta wag lang medyo blurry & tunog 8 ft.underground.
Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lolwat on September 18, 2014, 07:33:49 PM
Sir/mam: I would to ask if you can provide your opinion/recommendation,I am looking for a multi-effects na medyo cheap (my budget is 5K) na pede akong mag save ng riffs & then jam with it (parang loop station), then may accompaniment ng drums/percussion....hope you could provide me some your suggestions and recommendation..and another thing yun bang multi effects na hindi namimili ng amps para tumunog ng maganda, kahit fairly sounding pede na sakin, basta wag lang medyo blurry & tunog 8 ft.underground.
Thank you in advance.
What do you mean "save" riffs? If you mean plain looping lang, then you can do much worse than a Zoom G1on/G1Xon (NOT the old G1N/G1XN pedals). I got my G1on for around P3.5k converted from Japanese yen.
Pero kung saving as in, pwede mong patayin yung unit pagka-save mo ng loop, tapos pagbukas mo andun pa rin siya, I don't think may ganun nang unit selling for P5k. The closest would probably be the old Digitech GNX3 pero malamang more than P5k yun kahit used.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: wildcardxp on September 19, 2014, 09:41:32 AM
From experience, sirain talaga ang zoom units particularly on its tact switches. I suggest pagawa mo nalang yan, we have competitive techs here naman makakasave kapa as to labor, then ipon ka nalang to buy analog pedals in the future.
Yung sira nung akin sir yung parang card na naglalaman ng mga effects patches. Lagi talagang nasisira yun kahit anong ingat ko eh.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: politicalparty on September 19, 2014, 09:51:04 AM
Mga sir may tanong lang ako sa G1Xon, ang sabi run 5 effects ang pwedeng gamitin simultaneously, pero dalawa lang yung apakan nung pedal, pano nangyayari yun? Tsaka isa ko pang tanong, dahil 2 lang yung apakan niya, ibig sabihin ba nun dalawang effect (ex. 2 out of the 5 simultaneous effect) lang yung pwede mong i on and off na parang single pedal? Ang gusto ko lang din kasing malaman ay kung kunwari 5 effects nga yung sinet mo, pano macocontrol kung kailan mo balak i-activate yung isa sa mga 5 effects, kunwari delay muna ang naka on, tas saka ka mag on ng chorus, pwede ba yung ganun sa G1Xon o ibang zoom pedals? O kung ano yung sinet mong mga effects (Kunwari 5), kapag tinapakan mo yung switch ng pedal yung mismong 5 effects yung mago-off? Pakilinaw sa mga nakakaalam sir salamat. :-D
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: fizz450_03 on September 19, 2014, 01:04:50 PM
^ i think what they mean is you can create a patch that has 5 different sounds on top of each other bro.
so if that's the case, kung dalawa footswitch niya, i think you can use two pre-set patches, switching between them if need be.
dati naka ZOOM 4040 ako, solid siya sa dami ng pwede gawin as far as effects go, pero i still put my trust in my AX1500G. 7 years and running na sa kin, still going strong. yun nga big part ng hybrid set up ko ngayon. :)
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: lolwat on September 19, 2014, 01:17:40 PM
^ i think what they mean is you can create a patch that has 5 different sounds on top of each other bro.
so if that's the case, kung dalawa footswitch niya, i think you can use two pre-set patches, switching between them if need be.
Correct bro. Kung gusto mo ng pwedeng patayin yung effects sa loob ng patch, Zoom G3 yung may ganung functionality. Pero super nasusulitan din ako kay G1on pagdating sa tunog at features, lalo't 6 presets lang ang lagi kong gamit (bass simulator, clean, rhythm dist, lead dist, acoustic, blues drive). Tapos ang convenient pa nung drum machine at looper for practicing.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: politicalparty on September 19, 2014, 02:23:32 PM
Okay mga sir salamat, malinaw na, magswitch ka pala between patches, baka mag G3X na lang talaga ako kasi may audio interface rin pala yun, pwedeng magrecord sa PC.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: hentay on September 26, 2014, 09:45:41 PM
Para sa gusto mong gawin, you'll have an easier time with the AX3000G. But personally, I wouldn't pick it over the XT Live. Not for me. Para sa inyo siguro malabo. :lol:
I agree, simplicity wise. If you don't switch patches for the most part of your set, as in my case. I'd suggest the AX3000G (For the sheer simplicity of the thang). I only use it for modulation, the wah, a bit of boost (not the most robust Wah, but it does the trick). Still, I use an analog OD pedal via the fx loop of the AX for my drive and just switch patches (bilang na bilang yun) when i need a bit of boost. So far it works out for me, no matter how dated (er Jurassic hehe) the AX is. Pero of course, kung mas malaki budget mo, then get a more current multi-fx unit, especially kung masipag ka mag tweak at magbasa ng mahabang manual hehehe.
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: fizz450_03 on September 27, 2014, 03:39:03 AM
Okay mga sir salamat, malinaw na, magswitch ka pala between patches, baka mag G3X na lang talaga ako kasi may audio interface rin pala yun, pwedeng magrecord sa PC.
actually bro, even on older mfx, makakapag record ka sa PC. medyo stone age tech pero it works.
what i did before was : zoom 4040 then one line goes into the amp, where i used some kind of splitter plug para isa going into the amp to provide me a monitor, and a separate line going into the mic jack of the laptop. i used cakewalk 5 pa noon. reason i did that was i wanted to record the feedback :razz:
Title: Re: MultiEffects Unit Thread
Post by: ryechua on October 29, 2015, 05:55:18 PM