Author Topic: Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread (Read 146590 times)

musicianurse28 · « **Reply #375 on:** January 28, 2011, 11:41:53 PM »

Quote from: Riff_66603 on January 28, 2011, 08:15:35 AM

wala pang skin na ginagawa na "versatile" hehe subjective kasi sa tenga ng tao ang tunog na pasok sa genre of choice. but anyways, here are a couple of tried and tested tips IMO

1.) Snare:
batter - single ply coated (Remo Ambassador / Evans G1)
reso - single ply clear (Remo Ambassador or Diplomat / Evans Hazy 200 or 300)

2.) Toms:
batter - double ply or single ply with overtone control ring (clear or coated) (Remo Emperor, Pinstripe or Powerstroke 3 / Evans G2, EC2, Genera or Hydraulic)
reso - single ply (clear or coated) (Remo Ambassador / Evans G1)

3.) Bass:
batter - single ply with overtone control ring or double ply (clear or coated) (Remo Powerstroke 3 or Powersonic / Evans EQ4, EMAD, GMAD, EMAD2)
reso - single ply with overtone control ring (Remo Powerstroke 3 / Evans EQ3 or REMAD)

Panalo to! Salamat master Riff_66603! Actually sir lahat ng nabanggit niyo nasa choices ko na talaga eh, yun nga lang di rin makapili ng maayos dahil yung iba wala pa saten dito sa Pinas. Thanks ulit sir! Mod ka na rin pala

nice!

Happy drumming!

karl713 · « **Reply #376 on:** January 29, 2011, 01:02:07 AM »

mga sir,tanong lang po san po kaya ako makakabili ng O-rings? para dun sa mga toms ko
ang size nila ay 10,12,14.

saka mag kano pa kaya magagastos ko dun? gusto ko lang po
kasi maitono drums ko ng maganda

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musicianurse28 · « **Reply #377 on:** January 29, 2011, 07:19:46 AM »

Quote from: karl713 on January 29, 2011, 01:02:07 AM

mga sir,tanong lang po san po kaya ako makakabili ng O-rings? para dun sa mga toms ko
ang size nila ay 10,12,14. saka mag kano pa kaya magagastos ko dun? gusto ko lang po
kasi maitono drums ko ng maganda .

sa Lazer

glennaui · « **Reply #378 on:** January 29, 2011, 08:39:11 PM »

Quote from: plitipiw40315 on January 27, 2011, 07:53:24 PM

mga idol, suggest naman kayo ng pinaka da-best na drumhead for my catalina maple.. preferred ko na brand is REMO, at pang all around genre sana, yung pinaka versatile..thank!!

Brother, pag maple.. The best talaga ang Emperor Clear... tapos tapatan mo ng super thin reso para labas na labas ang pagproject...

glennaui · « **Reply #379 on:** January 29, 2011, 08:40:56 PM »

Share ko lang mga kapatid...

Floor toms sounds great when they are suspended...

If it uses tom legs, place a floor mat under them...

Kaya ok na ok ang mga may drum carpet...

karl713 · « **Reply #380 on:** January 29, 2011, 09:06:43 PM »

Quote from: musicianurse28 on January 29, 2011, 07:19:46 AM

sa Lazer

sir mag kano po kaya yun?
salamat po.

Riff_6603 · « **Reply #381 on:** January 29, 2011, 09:53:37 PM »

Quote from: karl713 on January 29, 2011, 09:06:43 PM

sir mag kano po kaya yun?
salamat po.

mga nasa around 150-200+ yung mute rings nila AFAIK pero baka nagtaas na din.. kung may mga luma kang heads pwede mo gawing mute rings yun or moongel na lang meron din si master vincher - www.thedrumshopmanila.com

Quote from: musicianurse28 on January 28, 2011, 11:41:53 PM

Panalo to! Salamat master Riff_66603! Actually sir lahat ng nabanggit niyo nasa choices ko na talaga eh, yun nga lang di rin makapili ng maayos dahil yung iba wala pa saten dito sa Pinas. Thanks ulit sir! Mod ka na rin pala nice!

Happy drumming!

walang anuman bro! mod or not, always ready to help out! cheers!

karl713 · « **Reply #382 on:** January 29, 2011, 11:11:43 PM »

Quote from: Riff_66603 on January 29, 2011, 09:53:37 PM

mga nasa around 150-200+ yung mute rings nila AFAIK pero baka nagtaas na din.. kung may mga luma kang heads pwede mo gawing mute rings yun or moongel na lang meron din si master vincher - www.thedrumshopmanila.com

ah.sige po sir.maraming salamat po.
dami ko nalalaman dito sa philmusic

.
hindi nakakasawang mag basa.

Drummerdude · « **Reply #383 on:** March 10, 2011, 09:05:29 PM »

Cnu po ba may alam kung anu mgndang drumhead sa tama? Malapit na kasi masira un original na drumhead nia eh...

pls do avoid text speak please. thanks! - mod

vhinming · « **Reply #384 on:** March 10, 2011, 09:19:56 PM »

You may ask here po

PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL QUESTIONS HERE!)

masyado pong general ang question nyo and most of them are answered here already Drumset Tuning and Head Selection thread

rainreyes_325 · « **Reply #385 on:** March 31, 2011, 05:56:10 PM »

Ano ang pinaka mgndang drumheads na swack sa budget nating mga drummers?

)

survey lng ako para sa bbilhin drum head (BATTER AND RESO HEAD) para sa drums ko.

BASS DRUM- ?
High TOM - ?
Floor TOM - ?
Snare - ?

Thanks.

francisnuega · « **Reply #386 on:** April 01, 2011, 12:55:25 PM »

Kick- REMO Pinstripe Clear or REMO Powerstroke 3 Clear

Toms- Batter - Remo Pinstripe Clear, Remo Emperor Clear, Remo Ambassador Coated, Evans G2 Coated
Reso- Any heads will do, basta durable at single ply lang

Snare- Batter - Remo Ambassador Coated, Remo Emperor X, Evans Genera Dry, Evans Reverse Dot
Reso - Remo Ambassador Clear, Evans G1 Clear

eto yung mga preffered heads ko ah, well nasa sayo padin yun

drummaniac · « **Reply #387 on:** April 01, 2011, 03:23:43 PM »

Remo Pinstripe para sa tom, powerstroke 3 para sa bass at coated ambassador para sa snare.

bulok · « **Reply #388 on:** April 01, 2011, 04:35:35 PM »

paano kung limited ang budget? ano kaya ang best drum head na affordable?

makinao · « **Reply #389 on:** April 01, 2011, 05:17:44 PM »

I've had lots of heads over the years. But right now, I've got Remo coated Ambassadors on everything (except of course Remo Ambassador Snare side on snare bottom). It works for me.

rainreyes_325 · « **Reply #390 on:** April 01, 2011, 05:39:58 PM »

sabi nila Remo Ambassador na daw ang Pinakamagndang Swack sa Budgets ng Drummers.

) kaya i'm planning to buy that kind of drum heads. nsa magkano b ang remo ambassador? saka san ito nbibili ng mura?
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jepoyoy · « **Reply #391 on:** April 25, 2011, 08:12:00 AM »

ako din, I need someone who could tune my drums the way I want it

, pero generic lang drumset namin sa church. Ok lang b un?

peeves24 · « **Reply #392 on:** April 25, 2011, 08:45:04 AM »

Quote from: aparma on January 01, 2011, 05:33:55 PM

Hi guys,

this maybe a stupid person (I'm not a drummer), but is there a professional drum setup guy? Like what a luthier is to a guitar. Someone who can go to our place and tune/setup/fix our drumset (because it sounds like crap).

Thanks!

like a guitar, you can only do so much when tuning your drums and if it "sounds like crap" no matter how you toyed with the tuning then it probably is but you have to put effort by actually experimenting with tuning first to determine that.

to start, get a good high tone first on the smallest tom first (getting good low tones is hard for beginners lalo na kung single ply heads lang gamit), doesnt matter if it doesnt sound like the one you hear on a recording. just get that tom to an acceptable playing tone and tweak it everyday i promise you will get good at it. you will eventually learn the sound of that tom and you can lower the tone by ear then you can relate the tone to the other drums.

snares are the easiest to tune, for beginners, just tighten everything and it will sound good

Quote from: jepoyoy on April 25, 2011, 08:12:00 AM

ako din, I need someone who could tune my drums the way I want it

hmmm then you should learn to tune your own drums

its really not that hard, it just takes time and patience. panoorin mo yung vids na bob gatzen sa youtube and listen to it using high quality headphones or speakers so that you will really hear the sound of the drums.

makinao · « **Reply #393 on:** April 25, 2011, 12:32:39 PM »

As an educator, I think it is better to have someone teach you how to setup drums than to do it for you. For example, tuning can change very quickly, like a guitar. So I can't imagine having someone come over to your house just to tune your guitar.

Has a drum setup workshop been done here before? AFAIK, most workshops are devoted to playing and listening. If not, I suggest it be considered at the next EB.

P.S. I volunteered to do this in my Church a couple of years ago. I had a whole-day workshop planned out, which included things like 1) drum parts, 2) assembly and disassembly, 3) head types, 4) tuning/tensioning, 5) muffling, 5) sticks, 6) kit positioning, 7) hardware, 8 ) maintenance and first aid. Alas, they never got back to me, so hindi natuloy.

peeves24 · « **Reply #394 on:** April 25, 2011, 12:46:23 PM »

nagkaron na ng drum tuning topics noon sa mga eb kaya lang matagal na masyado at iba na yung mga nagpopost dito hehehe

kailangan na ulitin ulit

to noobs in tuning: also keep in mind that drums are very highly dependent on the room. tuning your drums in your small room will almost always sound like crap and when you bring it to your gig, it will sound different. the floor alone will change the sound drastically. cement floors sound different from wood floors, carpeted hotel floors sound deader etc...

so tune your drums inside the room you will be playing at

straightwire · « **Reply #395 on:** May 07, 2011, 12:16:20 PM »

ano ba talaga ang purpose at nilalagyan ng unan ang bass drum tingin ko lalo lang humihina ang tunog sabi naman ng iba para daw mas buo ung tunog

pedaldeaf3 · « **Reply #396 on:** May 07, 2011, 12:28:02 PM »

Next time sir dito po tayo mag-post ng tanong...

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,207348.0.html

Yung unan or bass drum muffling is a matter of preference...
For short kanya kanyang trip yan ng tunog ng bass drum...
If para sa pandinig or panlasa mo pangit yung tunog niya...
You can't say the same sa gustong sound ng ibang drummer...

I prefer my bass drums muffled, since old school na skins ko...
Minsan kase sa skin ng bass drum affected ang sound...
And a more powerful "tug" ang sounds that I want...

nicewhun · « **Reply #397 on:** May 09, 2011, 05:44:33 PM »

im a new drummer gusto ko bumili ng drumset at may teacher ako tapos napa punta kami sa isang studio(JAMTRAXX) ngayon binili namin ung drum set doon hindi ko pa alam mga magagandang set at mga qualities nila at hindi ko rin pala alam wala ding alam ung teacher ko, ngayon nabili namin ung set at ang brand is "GTX" ngayon pag uwi namin umalis na teacher ko at inassemble ko at kinabukasan linagyan ng teacher ko ng foam sa loob para may muffler "AND HIR IS THE PROBLEM PAG PALO KO NG SNARE ANG PANGET NG TUNOG (NOTE:WALANG FOAM UN) MAY ECHO SIYA PAG PINALO PATI NG FLOOR TOM AT NA BWISIT AKO KC TOTALLY PANGET SIYA!" and guys i really need your suggestion para mapaganda ung tunog nung set ko anu gagawin ko? , (NOTE: nag iisip ako na bumili ng bagong set)

geremii · « **Reply #398 on:** May 09, 2011, 06:17:39 PM »

how much mo ba nakuha ser? ang gtx kc entry level kit lang. what you pay is what you get. ika nga nila. or maybe try to change the heads and the snare wire.
cheers!

hayewire · « **Reply #399 on:** May 09, 2011, 06:25:28 PM »

suggestion ko lang po
1. ano tatak ng heads stock ba? pag oo palitan mo ng remo heads pag gusto mo mura palitan mo ng lazer heads yung coated kulay puti, tapos bilhan mo din ng mufler yung sa tom,tom at floor tom sa lazer din nabibili yun ring na bilog pinapatong sa gilid ng heads.
2, yung snare mo ba metal o wood?palitan mo din heads ng remo or lazer coated, check mo din yung snare wires kung masyado malapad or madami strands pwede ka bumili mas konte, yung saken binawasan ko pinutol cutter
3.tapos tono mo nalang yung heads ng top at buttom.
4. may na encounter kasi ako generic din na snare ang hirap itono nde ko makuha gs2 ko tunog nde ko alam kung sa design ba yun, kahit palit heads, yamaha snare gamit ko madali lang itono

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