Author Topic: Which ride can be "all-purpose"? (Read 13231 times)

tipsyboy · « **on:** May 24, 2009, 05:03:14 PM »

I've been wondering which ride cymbal to pray for, and I need some of your opinions mga sir at ma'am.

I'm looking for a generally versatile ride, yung pwedeng gamitin sa jazz, latin, pop, hanggang rock. Gusto ko kasi maganda definition niya, pero pwede pa rin i-crash. I was thinking 22" K Custom Medium Ride instead of just 20" so that it projects better, but then I'm also thinking that maybe it's too dark for some of the music we play. What do you guys think?

And don't get me wrong. I'm not looking to buy yet

marko21 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 24, 2009, 05:28:33 PM »

K Custom talaga versatile

deej · « **Reply #2 on:** May 24, 2009, 09:25:26 PM »

try the armand ride... I'm hoping and praying that I can get one soon..hehe...

plep · « **Reply #3 on:** May 24, 2009, 10:15:03 PM »

for an all-purpose ride, what you're looking for is a good mix of stick definition and wash, and also perhaps a balance of ride characteristics and crash capability. you want the cymbal to sound good whether you're playing its bow, bell, or edge.

generally speaking, medium weight rides are the best examples of the above. of course, this is not always the case. for example, zildjian's 21" a sweet ride is medium weight but is too washy for heavier music. on the other hand, sabian's 20" hhx evolution ride is a thinner cymbal (about medium light) but is extremely versatile.

with that said, the 22" k custom medium is a good choice. it has all the above qualities (maybe lacking in the bell department, but this is on a case to case basis), and no, it isn't too dark for rock. for metal, maybe, but for straight up rock it should do fine.

mondi99060451 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 25, 2009, 12:38:02 AM »

Hunt nyo kung nakanino na yung 21" Avedis Rock Ride na nasa Roger's Pies ko several months ago. Yun na yata ang pinaka manipis na rock ride na nagamit ko. Panalo ang ping, malinis ang sticking, hindi integrated ang bell sa bow, crashable at sakto lang ang volume. Bakit ko pinakawalan? business is business =(

sandythedrummer · « **Reply #5 on:** May 25, 2009, 09:50:19 AM »

Zildjian 20" K Custom Dark Ride
Zildjian 22" K Custom Medium Ride

alvin_11 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 25, 2009, 12:36:25 PM »

22" K Custom Dark Ride
22" K Dark Medium Ride

peeves24 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 25, 2009, 12:43:55 PM »

20" a custom medium ride

Lauch · « **Reply #8 on:** May 25, 2009, 01:59:09 PM »

how about the Avedis medium ride po? Is it good for tapping and crashing? Tska does anyone know which of the 2 has a higher pitch? the 20" or the 22" avedis medium ride?

nickmar · « **Reply #9 on:** May 25, 2009, 04:00:25 PM »

no doubt
k custom medium ride 20 or 22
k custom ride 20

yung k dark med thin 22" ok din kaya lang mahina siya for rock halos di ko marinig pag malakasan na

i have all these rides pero currently im using may k custom med ride 22 as my all around ride.

yung k custom ride naman malakas talaga siya as in pero sa jazz at blues parang over the limit na siya for me. kung gusto mo talaga makapagdecide punta ka dito sa bahay ko tapos iuwi mo na yung magugustuhan mo

plep · « **Reply #10 on:** May 25, 2009, 04:11:08 PM »

Quote from: Lauch on May 25, 2009, 01:59:09 PM

how about the Avedis medium ride po? Is it good for tapping and crashing? Tska does anyone know which of the 2 has a higher pitch? the 20" or the 22" avedis medium ride?

the A Medium Ride is pretty much the original all-purpose ride, so yes. smaller cymbal = higher pitch

the K Custom Ride is too much for jazz. it's basically just a slightly darker rock ride.

migs_23 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2009, 04:32:24 PM »

its got to be the k custom medium ride 20" and k custom dark ride 22"

CDodrummer · « **Reply #12 on:** May 25, 2009, 06:25:39 PM »

I use paiste 3000 ride its good too

meinldrummer · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2009, 06:33:28 PM »

I use the 20" k custom medium ride. Versatile talaga ito.

jcberedo · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2009, 07:41:57 PM »

How about Paiste 20" Alpha Power Ride? pang metal lang ata 'to. hehehe!

arien_drummer · « **Reply #15 on:** May 25, 2009, 08:51:51 PM »

the best para sakin yung a zildjian sweet ride... ang lupet nito, bro. Pwede siyang malaking crash, pwedeng light ride, pwede rin na normal na ride. Pakinggan mu at your local JB music store...

tipsyboy · « **Reply #16 on:** May 25, 2009, 08:54:41 PM »

Quote from: nickmar on May 25, 2009, 04:00:25 PM

no doubt
k custom medium ride 20 or 22
k custom ride 20

yung k dark med thin 22" ok din kaya lang mahina siya for rock halos di ko marinig pag malakasan na

i have all these rides pero currently im using may k custom med ride 22 as my all around ride.
yung k custom ride naman malakas talaga siya as in pero sa jazz at blues parang over the limit na siya for me. kung gusto mo talaga makapagdecide punta ka dito sa bahay ko tapos iuwi mo na yung magugustuhan mo

libre? sige ba! wahahaha

thanks for the comments! it's been a lot of help. what do you guys think of a 22" a custom medium ride though?

i've actually used a 22" k custom ride and a 22" avedis vintage ride. they had great ride characteristics but they weren't crashable. i'm thinking of a 22" ride and not just a 20" ride because i want it to project better for louder stuff, generally straight up rock or maybe alternative.

kibohead · « **Reply #17 on:** May 25, 2009, 08:56:11 PM »

Usually medium weights offer more versatlity regardless of any model or brand. Just my thoughts kapatid. Medium weight rides offer a clear bell sound and a controlled wash and saturation. Some also use this as a Crash-Ride because of its volume and clarity.

digidikdik · « **Reply #18 on:** May 25, 2009, 09:04:34 PM »

its just all the same for me...it depends on how you hit the cymbals...Matter of timing and force...

mondi99060451 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 26, 2009, 03:15:51 AM »

Quote from: jcberedo on May 25, 2009, 07:41:57 PM

How about Paiste 20" Alpha Power Ride? pang metal lang ata 'to. hehehe!

clear and cutting sticking at nasa slightly warmer bell pare, hindi pa integrated sa bow. excited? hehehe

jcberedo · « **Reply #20 on:** May 26, 2009, 03:58:31 AM »

Quote from: mondi99060451 on May 26, 2009, 03:15:51 AM

clear and cutting sticking at nasa slightly warmer bell pare, hindi pa integrated sa bow. excited? hehehe

waaaaaaa!!! excited indeed! lolz dbale by June that will be MINE!!! MY OWN!!! MY PRECIOUS!! LOLZ!

tipsyboy · « **Reply #21 on:** May 27, 2009, 11:25:57 AM »

salamat ulit mga sir. you've all been a great help in enlightening me about cymbals. i will keep your comments in mind.

nu@nces · « **Reply #22 on:** May 27, 2009, 12:35:45 PM »

for me:
k custom medium ride 22"
k custom dark ride 20"
avedis sweet ride 21"

the k custom medium ride 22" offers more brighter stick definition than the dark ride but not too much wash. great loud bell. i find the k custom medium ride 22" drier in sound than the dark ride. the dark ride, however, offers a clear stick definition with a beautiful wash and also super crashable! for me, mas type ko ang bell ng dark ride, kase ang linaw and sakto yung pitch. the bow area has more dynamic range than the medium ride 22". both rides are excellent. but for overall versatility, the 20" dark ride is my choice. para saken lang mga kapatid kase pareho ko sila nagamit. maybe kase mas pasok siya sa playing style ko.

tipsyboy · « **Reply #23 on:** May 27, 2009, 03:21:28 PM »

I've actually heard the dark ride already, but the drummer was using it more as a crash-ride. It sounded great as a crash, but I thought it was a little too dark for defined sticking. Then again, the sound man wasn't really that great too, so...

nu@nces · « **Reply #24 on:** May 27, 2009, 07:34:02 PM »

i believe it's a matter of developing a touch for you to produce different sounds and subtleties on a complex-sounding k custom 20" dark ride. if you're a rock drummer then definitely you'll just be bashing this cymbal. not so great sounding for you, but for me it is. fits on my playing style and speaks exactly the way I want it to.

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Author Topic: Which ride can be "all-purpose"? (Read 13231 times)