the distillers have one hot front woman, wow
dude, try to check out the frontwoman of Vice Squad.. she's a bit hot for my taste on her photos took around the 80's a bit old narin by this time..
on the 'Pop-Punk' issue (i think), well, maybe at this age i would say that i have personally experienced some of the local punk culture here in the philippines a few years back.. with some of the 'pioneers' of pinoy punk and the like... well, in my personal opinion, some of the 'pioneers' here in the philippines will also contradict their 'beliefs' with their 'actions'...
for example, if one talks and about Anarchism and that of he is a follower of the concept of it, it would contradict the fact that he works with the government (pretty lame eh)... or one would talk and tell that he believes that the solution of our economy is the Barter System which also contradict his belief because he owns a large wholesale and retail of shirts..
hahahaha!
lets put it this way, would you judge someone regarding his/her look, lifestyle or his contract deal with a major label that he/she is not 'metal' because he/she dresses up in a prim and proper manner, have a clean cut, wears colorful shirts, friendly, and other things that would oppose the concept of being 'metal' such as trashed clothes, long hair, black outfit (shirts to be particular with big bold band graphics on the front and a screaming band name on the back), sporting a stare-that-could-kill, and an underground scene BUT listens, plays, and loves 'metal' music?
come on!!!!
so lets all stop the whining about other sub genres and 'opposing sub genres of the main genre' and start talking about the most important thing (i think) that would really matter in this thread, THE MUSIC ITSELF........
to wrap up, i think that punk started out as a lifestyle... and evolved into music.. which is eternal and more meaningful....