hulika

Author Topic: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?  (Read 540257 times)

Offline Glennox

  • Forum Fanatic
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #200 on: August 23, 2010, 02:52:47 PM »
Dude, the latest model of Fane Colossus 18xb which indicates that it is 800 watts as compared to the old Fane (like ours) with just 600 watts declared power rating is NOT ACCURATE.  Read below a thread I extracted from another forum regarding the new batch of Fane speakers.  Give more attention on the last paragraph.  :roll:





...Nabasa ko din ito sir Stoney sa Speakerplans.com...Meron na din kasing bagong Fane 18" na 1500 watts din daw sa nabasa ko...China na nga din gawa ang latest na Fane Colossus 18XB at 600 watts nga lang talaga pala...,, :cry:

From Speakerplans.com...:


Offline Jef2

  • Forum Fanatic
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #201 on: August 24, 2010, 03:31:01 PM »
...Nabasa ko din ito sir Stoney sa Speakerplans.com...Meron na din kasing bagong Fane 18" na 1500 watts din daw sa nabasa ko...China na nga din gawa ang latest na Fane Colossus 18XB at 600 watts nga lang talaga pala...,, :cry:

From Speakerplans.com...:



fane needs to 'rebadge' the old 18xb 600 watts to let it appear that it's now a 2010 release.  :roll:

Offline stoney73

  • Senior Member
  • ***
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #202 on: August 27, 2010, 11:22:43 PM »
fane needs to 'rebadge' the old 18xb 600 watts to let it appear that it's now a 2010 release.  :roll:

They are obviously not the old dogs like my Fane Col18xb "600 watters".  In my personal account,  I am more convince with the power and low/mid-low depth of an "800 watter" my PAudios are giving me.  :evil:

C-18elf  :evil:
"The wrong piece of gear, at the right price, is STILL the wrong piece of gear".

Offline Glennox

  • Forum Fanatic
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #203 on: August 29, 2010, 05:26:27 PM »
...Ito na ang new Fane Colossus model na 18"...1500 watts na!...Sana may ganito na ang Basshead...,, :wink:


Offline Glennox

  • Forum Fanatic
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #204 on: August 31, 2010, 12:11:20 AM »
...Dito ko na lang ipost ito sirs...mag-oorder na kami ng MB WSX loaded ng C18-650...nagpasyal ang tropa after ng Palmm sa MB...naconvince sila na mas malakas ang WSX sa WBox gamit pareho ang C18-650...mid-size pa!...package price ng MB WSX at C18-650 ay 28,000...,, :wink:

...left is WSX...right is WBox...,,






...C18-650...,, 8-)




Offline mr. ultimate

  • Senior Member
  • ***
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #205 on: August 31, 2010, 09:14:16 PM »
kung sub talaga hanap niyo you should try LIVE SUB 18.5 yan sub talaga goes down 28hz

Offline mants

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #206 on: August 31, 2010, 09:37:43 PM »
kung sub talaga hanap niyo you should try LIVE SUB 18.5 yan sub talaga goes down 28hz
magkano price nitong live 18.5 sir,,,,5" voice coil din ba ito..

Offline mr. ultimate

  • Senior Member
  • ***
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #207 on: August 31, 2010, 09:50:21 PM »
yes 5 inch voice coil dual dumper

Offline TECHEXTREME

  • Netizen Level
  • **
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #208 on: September 01, 2010, 12:04:43 PM »
...Ito na ang new Fane Colossus model na 18"...1500 watts na!...Sana may ganito na ang Basshead...,, :wink:


31k sir ang price nyan, by order po tayo orig england po.

Offline king_james

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #209 on: September 01, 2010, 03:18:33 PM »
@ TECHEXTREME

 :? :? Sir, what are the differences between the new Fane Col 1500 from the old Fane Col18xb aside from the power rating?  :-) :-)

Offline king_james

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #210 on: September 01, 2010, 03:31:23 PM »
...Dito ko na lang ipost ito sirs...mag-oorder na kami ng MB WSX loaded ng C18-650...nagpasyal ang tropa after ng Palmm sa MB...naconvince sila na mas malakas ang WSX sa WBox gamit pareho ang C18-650...mid-size pa!...package price ng MB WSX at C18-650 ay 28,000...,, :wink:

...left is WSX...right is WBox...,,


...C18-650...,, 8-)




 :-) :-) Ok nga ang size ng WSX ha.  22.5" x 42" x 37" while MB's subzero is 24" x 48" x 30" yata  :? :?  Agree ako sa C18 650el na match na match sa WSX since the original driver installed on the WSX is a 600 watter.  :lol: :lol:

Offline constantpressure

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #211 on: September 02, 2010, 08:27:31 AM »
kakaorder ko lang ng wsx18 4pcs sa music box 8-) nabenta ko na yung 'cavite-made' wsx18 ko  :wink:  try ko ang c-18elf 800watts this time.

Good day Sir Jeff2...Saan gawa sa cavite yung WSX...gumawaga ako clone Martin Audio WSX, W8 since 1995 just for our use...2005 a close friend ask me to build some for him.

Please post a pic so will know its ours...

if you need a building plan in 3d format or autocad...i can share it to you for your internal measurement reference and physics inside the box

Maraming Salamat po,
jojo

« Last Edit: September 02, 2010, 08:42:46 AM by constantpressure »
Never look down on anybody, unless you're helping them
Those who have much are often greedy, those who have little always share...Oscar Wilde

Offline constantpressure

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #212 on: September 02, 2010, 12:25:22 PM »
The Wbox horn mouth size of this enclosure is 1/8 of the size required for a full 40Hz horn.  Hence, stacking 8 JBL “W”-boxes in a 4 x 2 configuration will provide true horn loading down to 40Hz.

The WSX is designed to be ground stacked and ultimate performance is achieved by close coupling a stack of
four...1/4 of the size required for a full 35Hz horn.

Therefore...to compare these boxes it will be 8 wbox(1/8 W/L per box) VS 4 WSX (1/4 Wavelenght per box)...using a SMAART software with a measuring mic, dont use program music.

anyways...4 WSX will just walk-over 8 wbox at below 40hz domain...

have nice day,
jojo
Never look down on anybody, unless you're helping them
Those who have much are often greedy, those who have little always share...Oscar Wilde

Offline triciaaruba

  • Philmusicus Noobitus
  • *
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #213 on: September 04, 2010, 06:52:36 PM »
abt wlx po?
mas maliit sa wsx
pero mas malakas ang speaker ang nakalgay , check this
http://www.martin-audio.com/products/WSX.asp
http://www.martin-audio.com/products/WLX.asp

anu mas ok?

Offline constantpressure

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #214 on: September 05, 2010, 06:59:46 AM »
WLX and WSX in Xray vision...







have a nice day
jojo
Never look down on anybody, unless you're helping them
Those who have much are often greedy, those who have little always share...Oscar Wilde

Offline constantpressure

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #215 on: September 05, 2010, 09:22:03 AM »


WSX module...

jojo
Never look down on anybody, unless you're helping them
Those who have much are often greedy, those who have little always share...Oscar Wilde

Offline constantpressure

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #216 on: September 05, 2010, 10:00:52 AM »








have fun,
jojo
« Last Edit: June 29, 2015, 03:25:36 PM by constantpressure »
Never look down on anybody, unless you're helping them
Those who have much are often greedy, those who have little always share...Oscar Wilde

Offline mants

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #217 on: September 05, 2010, 11:29:02 AM »










have fun,
jojo
sir jojo anong speaker ang gamit mo jan sa WLX mo,,meron ka bang datailed plan nitong WLX ,, alin ba sir ang unang inilabas ng Martin audio yong WSX ba or itong WLX  thanks,,,,ganda ng pagka yari ng WLX cabs mo sir ah  ano to sir marine ply ba or Birch ply,,,
« Last Edit: September 05, 2010, 11:33:23 AM by mants »

Offline triciaaruba

  • Philmusicus Noobitus
  • *
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #218 on: September 05, 2010, 12:00:53 PM »
anu nga mas ok,? wlx or wsx
although mas maliit nga ung wlx, pero mas malaks ang speaker requirement
sino mas malakas, at mas maganda tumunog?

Offline constantpressure

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #219 on: September 05, 2010, 03:38:13 PM »
@triciaaruba

Truck packing wise you go for WLX...
Effiency go for WSX...

WLX kailangan mo lagi mag-Hipass below 40hz para huwag ma-over excursion ang driver kaya siya malaki ang power handling...ito ay isang problema ng reflex cab...WLX is a hybrid box having bass reflex and horn loaded in a single box...parang Wbox kaya lang mas optimize ang performance ng WLX using current technology.

WSX is a sealed hornloaded cabin...kaya mas controlled ang excursion ng driver dahil sa vacuum...kaya pag may singaw(leak) ang cab mag oover-excursion ang driver and it will surely die...very important to check those WSX regularly if there are any loose screw from driver to its cover.

@mants

nauna ang WSX very old...bago lang yung WLX .

marine ply lang po tayo walang pera pang birch ...hehehe.

tapusin ko lang drawing with dimension as per parts...then post ko dito.

have a nice day,
jojo
Never look down on anybody, unless you're helping them
Those who have much are often greedy, those who have little always share...Oscar Wilde

Offline lance06

  • Philmusicus Noobitus
  • *
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #220 on: September 05, 2010, 05:12:10 PM »
Good to see you here jo,si audiomachines yata di pa napapasyal dito,di ko rin gaano nakikita sa DIY Audio.As always poging pogi pa din mga cabinets mo,thumbs up! :-D

Offline constantpressure

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #221 on: September 05, 2010, 07:54:41 PM »
@mants

paudio sd18 is a robust driver i think it will do good in a wlx...again check and compare the t/s of original driver.

@lance06

hi...nice day

have fun
jojo
Never look down on anybody, unless you're helping them
Those who have much are often greedy, those who have little always share...Oscar Wilde

Offline constantpressure

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #222 on: September 05, 2010, 09:25:23 PM »








WSX loaded with JH186...they do the job pretty well...make sure there are no leaks and they will last long.
power compression? very good!

have a nice day
jojo
Never look down on anybody, unless you're helping them
Those who have much are often greedy, those who have little always share...Oscar Wilde

Offline Glennox

  • Forum Fanatic
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #223 on: September 06, 2010, 02:50:08 PM »
...RCF L18 P300ND...22,800 retail price...,, :wink:



The L18P300ND is derived from L18P300 but with a neo magnetic design and manufactured with a newly designed Neodymium basket that provides improved ventilation under the top plate.

This new model is perfectly compatible with the ferrite version both in size and performance but with a much reduced weight. The neo magnetic assemblies use a 15mm thickness plates that ensure a high flux density in the gap, low power compression and excellent heat dissipation. A specially designed M-roll suspensions combined with a double silicon spider ensure an excellent linear piston control and an undistorted low frequencies reproduction at very high power. The voice coil are constructed using a fiberglass former treated with high temperature resin adhesives while the coil is wound in inside/outside typology to provide a very high thermal stability and durability at high power levels.

Features:
4-inch , fiberglass inside-outside copper voice coil
2000W continuous program power handling
97dB Sensitivity
35Hz -1KHz Frequency range
Forced air ventilation and 15mm top plate for minimum power compression
Dual spider design with silicon based dampening control
M-roll surround and exponential cone geometry
Neo magnetic assembly
The net weight of L18P300ND result half in comparison to the ferrite version.
Push buttons easier to use
Larger fixing holes
Improved ventilation under the top plate
Smaller overall diameter for easier assembling

...Distributed by Forerunner...,, :wink:

Offline Jef2

  • Forum Fanatic
  • ****
Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #224 on: September 10, 2010, 05:44:02 PM »
The PD184 resembles more of the C18 650 with power ratings of 600 to 650 watts.  Under a hornresp (inside a WSX sub) which I extracted from another forum,  here is the result:



Be the judge :evil:

the pd184 did not really get good reviews abroad.  but i did read on other forums that this model was used on some turbosound bass units. price-wise,  a bit pricey for me. :-)
« Last Edit: September 10, 2010, 05:45:37 PM by Jef2 »