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Offline king_james

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #225 on: September 23, 2010, 07:52:33 AM »
...FaitalPro 18XL1500 1500watts... :wink:





PHP 31000 retail price...distributed by Beyond the Blue Corporation...,, :wink:

 :-) :-) Sir Glennox saan ang demo room ng Beyond the Blue? Any user review on the Faital Pro? Thanks.  :-) :-)

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #226 on: September 24, 2010, 12:16:55 AM »
:-) :-) Sir Glennox saan ang demo room ng Beyond the Blue? Any user review on the Faital Pro? Thanks.  :-) :-)

...Sir pakicheck na lang ang website ng Beyond the Blue - http://www.beyondthebluecorp.com/home/?page=home ...,, :wink:

...Hindi kaya sa budget ang Faital Pro1500XL...nasa 32k yata ang isa!...sa P audio Sd18el na lang ako...,, :wink:

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #227 on: October 13, 2010, 03:48:31 PM »
...JBL 2268HPL neodymium 18" woofer loaded sa JBL SRX728s subs...,, :-o




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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #228 on: October 13, 2010, 06:08:20 PM »
...JBL 2268HPL neodymium 18" woofer loaded sa JBL SRX728s subs...,, :-o





super mahal naman nito....... PAudio nalang

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #229 on: October 14, 2010, 10:54:41 PM »
...Cerwin Vega LE36...,, :-o



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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #230 on: October 15, 2010, 02:45:40 PM »
...JBL 2268HPL neodymium 18" woofer loaded sa JBL SRX728s subs...,, :-o





the last updated price of the jbl srx728s dual 18 bass is php 189260 pair.   8-)

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #231 on: October 15, 2010, 02:51:03 PM »
...Cerwin Vega LE36...,, :-o



do you have an updated price sir glennox? i think it's being sold between php 45000 to 50000 each. 400w rms, 3inch coil cerwin vega 18inch woofer.  i'm not certain if this is the new vega 18 stroker model. 8-)

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #232 on: October 16, 2010, 06:42:12 AM »
jbl 2242h 18inch 800watts with dual spider, 4inch aluminum voice coil. for me the best sounding 18inch on a bass reflex cab. there are still some 'new old stocks' in audiophile i think.  still pricey up to this day.  php 44000 each last updated price.  8-)







installed on the earlier version of the jbl asb6128v dual18 'v-loaded' subs


and later upgraded to the new jbl 2258h neodymium 18inch woofers on the latest jbl asb6128v dual18 subs

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #233 on: October 16, 2010, 05:41:14 PM »
jbl 2242h 18inch 800watts with dual spider, 4inch aluminum voice coil. for me the best sounding 18inch on a bass reflex cab. there are still some 'new old stocks' in audiophile i think.  still pricey up to this day.  php 44000 each last updated price.  8-)







installed on the earlier version of the jbl asb6128v dual18 'v-loaded' subs


and later upgraded to the new jbl 2258h neodymium 18inch woofers on the latest jbl asb6128v dual18 subs


Astig! But the price is unrealistically high considering it's an old model of JBL.  :cry: :cry:

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #234 on: October 17, 2010, 02:36:17 PM »
Astig! But the price is unrealistically high considering it's an old model of JBL.  :cry: :cry:

...Oo nga...,, :-D

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« Reply #235 on: October 17, 2010, 02:43:54 PM »
do you have an updated price sir glennox? i think it's being sold between php 45000 to 50000 each. 400w rms, 3inch coil cerwin vega 18inch woofer.  i'm not certain if this is the new vega 18 stroker model. 8-)

...Ganun nga yata ang presyo per box bossing...hindi sumagot ang Forerunner sa inquiry ko huhuhu...ang models na gamit ang Stroker 18" ay yung TS 42 at AB 36c...ewan ko lang kung nagpasok ang Forerunner ng ganitong models...pero nag-DIY din kami dati ng L36...ang laman pa CV189...,, :wink:




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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #236 on: October 17, 2010, 10:45:54 PM »
...Ganun nga yata ang presyo per box bossing...hindi sumagot ang Forerunner sa inquiry ko huhuhu...ang models na gamit ang Stroker 18" ay yung TS 42 at AB 36c...ewan ko lang kung nagpasok ang Forerunner ng ganitong models...pero nag-DIY din kami dati ng L36...ang laman pa CV189...,, :wink:





yes both the cerwin vega ts42 & ab36 cabs are using the 'stroker' technology woofers which utilize a three-spider driver design to optimize cone excursion and voice coil efficiency.  the only difference is the ts42 is a 21inch woofer loaded folded horn cab.  8-)

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #237 on: October 18, 2010, 04:23:23 PM »
Ang pinag uusapan ba natin ay for subwoofer lang; this is my centavo share...

if low budget ang pinag uusapan, TNT talaga tested ko na yan sa EV MTL2, L36 at Sub zero ko.

Pero kung clarity at quality ng tunog i'll go for branded like JBL,DAS,Cerwin Vega.

Pero ang low kasi hindi masyado kailangan ng ganda ng bayo ang mahalaga ramdam ng tao yun low frequency sa area,pangit din kasi ang sobra ma bass,dapat balanse sya sa MID High.

Pero kung ang pag uusapan ay clarity ng tunog sa Mid Highs o tops,pasensya na po iiwasan nating gumamit ng low end na mga speakers dahil low end ang lalabas na tunog.Thats the reason why mahal ang mga branded na speakers dahil quality wise malayo sa branded.

Kung low budget pa rin,better you buy a quality speaker box like made by lin gomez,EMD, Charlie ng Calamba Laguna, Rey ng Candelaria, Quezon.Itong dalawang name sa huli un tga Calamba at Quezon, hindi ko pa talaga na try pero ayon sa mga kasamahan natin sa industriya mahusay daw gumawa ng box.

Kung meron ka ng magandang box tama ang sukat saka mo lagyan ng branded o medyo branded na mga woofers and Highs.



Sir may contact po ba kayo "Charlie" from Calamba Laguna? tnx
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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #238 on: October 18, 2010, 08:05:42 PM »
the cerwin vega cva 121 powered 21inch.  demoed at xstatic's place last year.  i think it's being sold at 80000 per cab.  this uses the new stroker vega 21inch woofer :wink:


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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #239 on: October 20, 2010, 12:06:31 AM »
I would like to share my old L-36 subwoofer, we have been using it since 1996 loaded with Cerwin Vega L-1815, enclosure is made by MB.  :-)





"To get more undistorted output, the excursion limits have been increased to 1 1/2" peak-to-peak through the use of a new edge suspension and spider. The diaphragm is Kapok and Kevlar; light yet very strong. The voice coil is very long yet the motor efficiency is three to five times greater than any 18” unit we know of—including the neodymium-iron-boron units claiming such advances."

COMPONENTS: L-1815 18 inch elephant motor


Bro medyo napag-uusapan kasi ang Cerwin Vega lately.  Ask ko lang the price you got the MB EL36 box and sa MB mo din ba nabili yung Vega L-1815?  Saka how old is your MB EL36 box? Tnx bro.  :-D :-D

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #240 on: October 20, 2010, 05:30:01 AM »

Bro medyo napag-uusapan kasi ang Cerwin Vega lately.  Ask ko lang the price you got the MB EL36 box and sa MB mo din ba nabili yung Vega L-1815?  Saka how old is your MB EL36 box? Tnx bro.  :-D :-D




Bro, yung mga first series ko ng L-36 galing MB way back early 90's pa, yung nasa pictures na L-36 year 2001 pa (marine ply) around P11,+++ @, kasabay sila nung mga EV MT2 ko... then yung Cerwin Vega L-1815 special order from U.S. (1996) around P17,000@. :-)

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #241 on: October 21, 2010, 07:08:55 AM »


Bro, yung mga first series ko ng L-36 galing MB way back early 90's pa, yung nasa pictures na L-36 year 2001 pa (marine ply) around P11,+++ @, kasabay sila nung mga EV MT2 ko... then yung Cerwin Vega L-1815 special order from U.S. (1996) around P17,000@. :-)


Thanks bro. Halos 1 decade na pala yan MB box mo mukha pa kasing bago  :-D. I'm considering having a pair also from MB or yet might check the originals from TMS. Affordable na din kasi ang original Vegas.  :-D :-D

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #242 on: October 22, 2010, 03:38:56 PM »


Bro, yung mga first series ko ng L-36 galing MB way back early 90's pa, yung nasa pictures na L-36 year 2001 pa (marine ply) around P11,+++ @, kasabay sila nung mga EV MT2 ko... then yung Cerwin Vega L-1815 special order from U.S. (1996) around P17,000@. :-)


nice catch.  the cv l-1815 woofer was first used on the t36/750 subs.  "t" for trapezoidal.



The Intense! T-36/750 subwoofer is compact, loud and clean. Featuring a larger radiating area than direct-radiating woofers, these horns will also array better, maintaining directivity or “throw” over a greater distance. (An array of four or more cabinets will give directivity down to 60 Hz.)

Comparison with the legendary L-36 Portable Earthquake horn is inevitable. This trapezoid-shaped cabinet is smaller (now 13” wide in the rear), yet the mouth size (6 square ft.) and flare cutoff frequency (32 Hz) are the same. Up to five cabinets can be packed side-by-side in a truck.

A new, highly-improved 18” driver was developed to enhance the performance of the T-36/750, and is the main reason the relatively compact T-36/750 outperforms the L-36PE in all parameters (particularly at 32 Hz).

To get more undistorted output, the excursion limits have been increased to 1 1/2" peak-to-peak through the use of a new edge suspension and spider. The diaphragm is Kapok and Kevlar; light yet very strong. The voice coil is very long yet the motor efficiency is three to five times greater than any 18” unit we know of—including the neodymium-iron-boron units claiming such advances.

Sustained high-power operation produces a lot of heat. A distinctive 1/8" thick metal front panel conducts heat out of the cabinet interior while also providing access to the L-1815 driver. This convex-shaped panel produces several other benefits:

Longer horn path for low cutoff frequency

Increased horn air chamber volume for lower system resonance

Symmetrical loading of the subwoofer driver

Increased compression loading of the driver (nearly 3:1) for higher efficiency and improved resistance to infrasonic damage (“dropped” microphone or tonearm)

The cabinet itself is constructed with 3/4" (18mm) SuperPly, an A-surface veneered void-free multiply material which is, pound for pound, stronger than conventional plywood. The result is a rugged, heavy-duty cabinet weighing less than 150 pounds—a relief for muscles and fly rigging.

Heavy-duty casters and handles make moving a one-man job, and the cabinet is equipped with both Neutrik Speakon and 1/4" phone jack (15 amp!) connections. The T-36/750F is also available with the unique MAN side attachments—the quickest and most secure flying system available.

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #243 on: October 22, 2010, 07:49:39 PM »
...Yung L36 ng barkada namin halos 4 years old na, galing MB...loaded ng C18 650 pero ganda ng tunog...nasa 22,000 per box yata ang bili nya dati loaded na ...,, :wink:

...nakuhang pics namin ng L36 sa MB dati pa...,, :wink:




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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #244 on: October 22, 2010, 08:38:43 PM »
nice catch.  the cv l-1815 woofer was first used on the t36/750 subs.  "t" for trapezoidal.



The Intense! T-36/750 subwoofer is compact, loud and clean. Featuring a larger radiating area than direct-radiating woofers, these horns will also array better, maintaining directivity or “throw” over a greater distance. (An array of four or more cabinets will give directivity down to 60 Hz.)

Comparison with the legendary L-36 Portable Earthquake horn is inevitable. This trapezoid-shaped cabinet is smaller (now 13” wide in the rear), yet the mouth size (6 square ft.) and flare cutoff frequency (32 Hz) are the same. Up to five cabinets can be packed side-by-side in a truck.

A new, highly-improved 18” driver was developed to enhance the performance of the T-36/750, and is the main reason the relatively compact T-36/750 outperforms the L-36PE in all parameters (particularly at 32 Hz).

To get more undistorted output, the excursion limits have been increased to 1 1/2" peak-to-peak through the use of a new edge suspension and spider. The diaphragm is Kapok and Kevlar; light yet very strong. The voice coil is very long yet the motor efficiency is three to five times greater than any 18” unit we know of—including the neodymium-iron-boron units claiming such advances.

Sustained high-power operation produces a lot of heat. A distinctive 1/8" thick metal front panel conducts heat out of the cabinet interior while also providing access to the L-1815 driver. This convex-shaped panel produces several other benefits:

Longer horn path for low cutoff frequency

Increased horn air chamber volume for lower system resonance

Symmetrical loading of the subwoofer driver

Increased compression loading of the driver (nearly 3:1) for higher efficiency and improved resistance to infrasonic damage (“dropped” microphone or tonearm)

The cabinet itself is constructed with 3/4" (18mm) SuperPly, an A-surface veneered void-free multiply material which is, pound for pound, stronger than conventional plywood. The result is a rugged, heavy-duty cabinet weighing less than 150 pounds—a relief for muscles and fly rigging.

Heavy-duty casters and handles make moving a one-man job, and the cabinet is equipped with both Neutrik Speakon and 1/4" phone jack (15 amp!) connections. The T-36/750F is also available with the unique MAN side attachments—the quickest and most secure flying system available.


OK sana ang CV T36/750 sa truck packing dahil sa array config niya...pero sa real world application hindi rin magagamit ang array nya...so balik sila quare one.

Imagine if your going to array a stack of 4 boxes for 30hz wavelength...its going to have arc of a circle with a diameter of approx. 37.6feet...its almost a straight line.

have a nice day,
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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #245 on: October 26, 2010, 02:36:38 PM »

OK sana ang CV T36/750 sa truck packing dahil sa array config niya...pero sa real world application hindi rin magagamit ang array nya...so balik sila quare one.

Imagine if your going to array a stack of 4 boxes for 30hz wavelength...its going to have arc of a circle with a diameter of approx. 37.6feet...its almost a straight line.

have a nice day,
jojo

Agree.  Mas ok if the box has a bigger air volume capacity (for me).  Sounds bigger and deeper response.  :-) :-)

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #246 on: October 27, 2010, 07:52:19 PM »

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« Reply #247 on: October 27, 2010, 07:53:30 PM »

OK sana ang CV T36/750 sa truck packing dahil sa array config niya...pero sa real world application hindi rin magagamit ang array nya...so balik sila quare one.

Imagine if your going to array a stack of 4 boxes for 30hz wavelength...its going to have arc of a circle with a diameter of approx. 37.6feet...its almost a straight line.

have a nice day,
jojo

...+1...,, :wink:

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #248 on: November 02, 2010, 06:44:10 AM »
...Precision Device PD1850 5" coil 800 watts... Made in England...,, :wink:





...Distributed by Basshead...,, :-)

The best pa rin ito.

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #249 on: November 02, 2010, 06:50:18 AM »
They are obviously not the old dogs like my Fane Col18xb "600 watters".  In my personal account,  I am more convince with the power and low/mid-low depth of an "800 watter" my PAudios are giving me.  :evil:

C-18elf  :evil:


Ito rin ang nagustuhan ko in terms of natural bass response.