SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread

[inigo]

Mas highly-regarded ang New Beat. All around na maganda ang tunog. Ang XS20 ay basic B20 bronze cymbal ng Sabian (B20 bronze din ang New Beat). Meaning, meron siyang basic B20 characteristics (projection, warmth, sound character) pero hindi siya tailored to be something. Ang New Beat, made to be loud yet warm. Ang XS20, hindi nagpoproject that much. New Beats also sound bigger despite being the same size. Which sound you like more is up to you.

Durability, pareho lang yan.

Para sa akin, mas trip ko tunog ng New Beat. Pero pag budget ang pag-uusapan, mas gusto ng pitaka ko ang XS20.

[bulog]

Thanks Sir Inigo.

Siguro maganda kung ma test ko muna itong XS20 para ma-compare ko yun projection ng tunog nya.

Salamat Sir.

MEdyo tempting kasi yung price e.

[cradleofklien]

para sakin NEW BEAT!!:D...tapos shempre benta mo nalang ung xs20...sure buyer ako bro.hehehe.joke lang..piis!

[Akira JUMBO]

I would stick with the New Beat 

[fredzs]

New Beats dude... I own one, and even though my pair is REALLY old and dirty, I will never part ways with this baby.. I love her. 

Why do you intend to buy the XS20 anyway?? Papalit mo ba sa New Beats ? Or do you need to buy hi-hats and just wondering if the XS20 sounds anywhere close to the New Beats ?

[vdonati_fan]

new beats, no doubt...

sheet cymbals po ang xs20's, as as i know..but new beats already casted, right..

with regard to sound...panalo talaga ang new beat...

stay with your new beat bro...follow what they say...


HTH...

[bulog]

Yung New Beat hats kasi, owned na by the church.  Eto yung kasama sa Fernando set ko na nabenta noon for 15k lng with 22 in K Jazz ride and 2 schimitar crashes (16 & 18 in).

So definitely, pag may gigs sa labas, di ko ito madadala, I want to own kasi my own hats e.

Thanks

[revelaxionz09]

bro, para sa akin new beats.. panalo talaga sa pandinig... xs20 ayos rin naman b20 na rin siya. pero i'll go talaga sa new beats ng zildjian... 

[Akira JUMBO]

If that's the case I would suggest you try out the xs20 and see how you like the sound. As we always say you and only you can tell if you like it or not but rest assured you are getting yourself into a good pair of hats. (at a decent price too! )

[vdonati_fan]

Yung New Beat hats kasi, owned na by the church.  Eto yung kasama sa Fernando set ko na nabenta noon for 15k lng with 22 in K Jazz ride and 2 schimitar crashes (16 & 18 in).

So definitely, pag may gigs sa labas, di ko ito madadala, I want to own kasi my own hats e.

Thanks

tama si mod Akira, ok ang x20 kasi mura na din sya...considering na b20 alloy na ang xs20...maganda pang investment yan para sa skill mo, to have your own instrument...

HTH

[bulog]

Thanks sa advice mga Sirs.

I'll update you all soon kung nakuha ko ito.

God Bless to All!!!

[inigo]

sheet cymbals po ang xs20's, as as i know..but new beats already casted, right..

XS20s are cast B20 bronze

[Miggleness]

for live settings, masmalaaks nga yung new beats sa xs20.  Resell value din masmataas ang new beats.  Yun din ang boto ko.

[Akira JUMBO]

I think the question now is not what is better between the said cymbals but rather is the XS20 a good cymbal to get; since Bulog is not choosing between the two instead He is considering of purchasing His own set of hi-hats 

[vdonati_fan]

XS20s are cast B20 bronze

i tried reading from the sabian website if the xs20 is already a casted or a sheeted cymbals but there's no clear answer...it  just says there ..."XS20 is all about value. With these bright sounding cymbals it is now possible to access the great durability and performance quality of B20 ‘cast’ bronze at unbelievably low ‘sheet’ bronze prices."

and that is continued by..."Using innovative hi-tech manufacturing methods we’ve advanced cymbal making by cutting the cost of creating this B20 bronze series without sacrificing the quality. XS20 delivers great sound, high quality and low prices for a cymbal - and a value - that simply can’t be beat."


well bulog, i suggest that you get that pair or refer it to royaltones since he's looking for xs20s. i sold my 18" xs20 crash to him recently.

i'm sure you'll enjoy the xs20 hats...

[grendil8]

ayos lang ba B8 sabian para sa hardcore-metal na tugtugan?
ano pa po ba mga pdeng cymbals na pde sa ganyang genre..

ung mga tipong kaya ng bulsa lalo pa at istudyante pa lang ako

help me out this..
salamat !!!

[vdonati_fan]

pre, musta?

about your inquiry kung pwede na ang Sabian B8 cymbals sa hardcore-metal na tugtugan...for me, it may not. sa hardcore-metal dapat loud and agressive ang cymbals, like Z customs of Zildjian. don't get me wrong, i love the B8s and B8 is i think is the best entry-level cymbal right now but in terms of your music, it may not be able to handle your demands...

sayang, pwede na sana yung ZXT Titanium ko sa type ng music nyo, kaso nabenta ko na...hehe

sige pre, enjoy my double peds ha...

take care and God Bless!

[stiknstone]

OK yan sir..for beginners and students..for practicing also..and if ur good enough tsaka ka na lng magswitch sa mga higher end cymbals..peace out!

[grendil8]

si vdonati (d ko na maalala name mo)

kano kaya aabutin ng Z custom?
ang kaya ko lang B8 eh.. ehehe..


nga pla oks na oks ung dpeds mo.. receive mo txt ko nung nag gig kami.. ty sa dpeds

[domldkim]

pre, musta?

about your inquiry kung pwede na ang Sabian B8 cymbals sa hardcore-metal na tugtugan...for me, it may not. sa hardcore-metal dapat loud and agressive ang cymbals, like Z customs of Zildjian. don't get me wrong, i love the B8s and B8 is i think is the best entry-level cymbal right now but in terms of your music, it may not be able to handle your demands...

sayang, pwede na sana yung ZXT Titanium ko sa type ng music nyo, kaso nabenta ko na...hehe

sige pre, enjoy my double peds ha...

take care and God Bless!

tama po yung sinabi mo sir vdonati_fan. dapat nga loud and agressive yung cymbals na gagamitin mo sa mga ganung genre. pero sir donati, kapag po sabian yung bibilihin mo(kasi po you mentioned Z custom e. hihih.), anu po ba yung cymbals na nagffit sa characterstics na loud and agressive??

[bulog]

Update

I got the XS20, bagong bago pa, perfect condition...parang di ginamit.

Got it for 4k lang.

Di ko pa nate-test, d2 pa ako sa opis hehe, kakakuha ko lang.

Thanks to all your advice.

[sjon014]

i tried reading from the sabian website if the xs20 is already a casted or a sheeted cymbals but there's no clear answer...it  just says there ..."XS20 is all about value. With these bright sounding cymbals it is now possible to access the great durability and performance quality of B20 ‘cast’ bronze at unbelievably low ‘sheet’ bronze prices."

and that is continued by..."Using innovative hi-tech manufacturing methods we’ve advanced cymbal making by cutting the cost of creating this B20 bronze series without sacrificing the quality. XS20 delivers great sound, high quality and low prices for a cymbal - and a value - that simply can’t be beat."

I always thought XS20's were B20 Bronze metals manufactured using sheet technique.

[9_spiral]

i prefer AA and AAX for metal music kasi bright and explosive ung tunog nya. May kamahalan nga lng pero super panalo talaga.

gamit ko ngaun b8 pro na china...it's bright and loud naman, i like it's trashy sound...kasi nga yun ung gusto kong quality ng sound. i play metal din kasi.

sa website ng sabian, may soundcheck naman...so minsan nakakarefer din ako dun ung mga differences ng bawal tunog ng bawat series,..cinocompare ko dun..ung Load A and Load B...ayun nakakatulong sa kin para makapagdecide kung ano talagang sound ung hinahanap ko hehe..

[plep]

tama po yung sinabi mo sir vdonati_fan. dapat nga loud and agressive yung cymbals na gagamitin mo sa mga ganung genre. pero sir donati, kapag po sabian yung bibilihin mo(kasi po you mentioned Z custom e. hihih.), anu po ba yung cymbals na nagffit sa characterstics na loud and agressive??

Kung cast na crash ang habol mo sir, yung best bet mo ay either AA Metal-X o kaya AAX Metal. Kaso hindi limitado dun ang choices mo. Pwede rin ang:
AA Med Thin / Medium / Rock
AA Crash Ride
AAX Stage
AAXplosion
Neil Peart Signature Paragon
Virgil Donati Signature Saturation
Chad Smith Signature Explosion

At kung gusto mo loud and aggresive pa rin kaso darker ang tunog (at mas aggressive din sa wallet hehe):
Hand Hammered Medium / Rock
Hand Hammered Crash Ride
HHX Stage
HHX Power
HHXplosion

Sa Hats tsaka Ride, yung equivalent models na lang ng mga yan: AA Metal-X Hats/Ride, AA Rock Hats/Ride, AAX Metal Hats/Ride, AAX Stage Hats/Ride, Paragon Hats/Ride, HH Rock Hats/Ride, HHX Power Hats/Ride, etc.

Mas madali ata makahanap dito sa Pilipinas nung mga nasa unang list (yung mga AA, AAX, tsaka Signature). Basta magsimula ka sa AA Metal-X tsaka sa AAX Metal, tas galing dun ka na lang magsimula maghanap.

[longfellow16]

hello...just wanna know what is the difference between b8 to b8pro series...