Progressive Rock Scene in the Philippines?

[kid_moll]

Marami jan mga nakikinig at nanonood sa mga progressive bands, foreign at local. Hindi lang kasi nagigising. Inis sa music scene ng bansa, pero kind enough to not ranting so much. (tama ba english?)

Can we do it? Kaya ba nito makilaban sa mga pogi-rock at mga pop stars? Do they have a place here?

Insights naman jan, people.

Thanks...

[nevermindemily]

Meron pero di sila sisikat... Sobrang dami ng mga magagaling na banda diyan na nagtatago at di sumisikat kasi ang nabibigyan ng chance ay yung mga novelty acts. Di naman sa minamaliit ko sila pero nakakalungkot lang. Ang nagugustuhan kasi ng karamihan ay yung mga simpleng kanta na tumatalakay sa mga "Jumbo Hotdog" at "Bulaklak". Iyun at yung mga bandang guwapo ang bokalista. Unless pogi ang maging bokalista ng prog band, wala sila masyadon mararating sa Pinas.

[kid_moll]

This is sad.  

[autoexec]

Ok lang yan. Pangit naman kung magiging pang-masa ang prog diba? Hmmm pero ok din. Ewan ko ba. WaaaaAh. Buti pa cueshe sikat!   Yuck!  

[toronchong]

hehehe..ako hilig ko yan 1 day bka jn sumikat ang banda ko...eh ano kng pa pogian ang labanan..la namng kwenta mga lyrics ng mga unggoy na un...kung talagang pogi cla bakit puro love song lng ang kya nla..un lng ba ang nara2mdaman nila? cguro lagi cla sawi..f dat so hw can dey say gwapo/pogi cla...

[zuperk]

ewan ko lang mga tsong ha,

pero kanyakanya ng gusto ang mga tao eh

nataon lang na talagang mas gusto ng mga tao dito sa pinas yung mga kantable na songs hehe, pop, yun mga ganun

[jun_BALARAW]

karamihan kasi sir ng pilipino mababaw(no offend).
tignan niyo na lang sa movie scene natin dito sa pinas. bakit ang mga istoryang ginagawa nila eh yung simple na yun bang umpisa pa lang alam na yung ending?
hindi katulad sa ibang bansa na talagang mapapaisip ka sa istorya. bakit laging kundi comedy, love story at action. kasi karamihan satin mababaw. ganun din sa music scene natin dito. yung mga simple at madali maintindihan na songs ang sumisikat. so kawawa talaga yung mga artist na magagaling talga.

siguro accept na lang natin ang katotohanan na ganun

[toronchong]

so sa tingin nu ba may pag asa pa ang prog music?

[jun_BALARAW]

so sa tingin nu ba may pag asa pa ang prog music?

malay natin. bakit ang reggae dati di naman ganun kadami nakikinig pero ngayon ang dami na. malay natin pagtagal pa ng panahon bago lang naman ang prog scene satin eh. malay natin

[chadrobles]

Meron pero di sila sisikat... Sobrang dami ng mga magagaling na banda diyan na nagtatago at di sumisikat kasi ang nabibigyan ng chance ay yung mga novelty acts.

I guess its not about being famous but more of a personal gratification. if you're into musical journey, then go for it, continue the quest for technical supremacy It would all bog down to the objective of the band. if its money-making, showband would do, wana be famous then? then go for pogi rock.If prog bands will make it to the top, then its just an added incentive.  

world peace!

[kid_moll]

Meron pero di sila sisikat... Sobrang dami ng mga magagaling na banda diyan na nagtatago at di sumisikat kasi ang nabibigyan ng chance ay yung mga novelty acts.

I guess its not about being famous but more of a personal gratification. if you're into musical journey, then go for it, continue the quest for technical supremacy It would all bog down to the objective of the band. if its money-making, showband would do, wana be famous then? then go for pogi rock.If prog bands will make it to the top, then its just an added incentive.  

world peace!

Thanks for the reply, sir chad... Minsan kasi baka marami jan na nawawalan ng gana and nagsi switch na lang sa showband for the money. Pero prog ang puso nila. I know na ang ibang musikero, hobby lang ang tumugtog. Pero paano naman ang mga mahihirap na may pangarap? That's why I'm asking if there's a place for progressive music in pop. Yun lang.

[bass monster]

one of us should start....


meron dati si Dondi Ledesma solo prog bass master nung 80's.......

[FullofEbak]

blame the government hehehe. another reason if there aren't enough already. think of the target market. out of the 20% above the poverty level, how many among them would love prog. the 80percent are too busy working for food, maybe only 3percent of the total population would be open to it. if we were a 1st world country, we'd have more time to listen and learn music and being a professional musician alone would be enough to get by. it's like a very sophisticated taste, how can it flourish in such a depressed country. maybe with a better economy, music appreciation would flourish as well?

[chadrobles]

one of us should start....


meron dati si Dondi Ledesma solo prog bass master nung 80's.......

we have a prog scene here, di lng masyado nabibigyan ng break.We had this prog prod goin on, it was officially launched last Dec'05. it was held at 6underground.the line up includes, Fuseboxx, Eternal Now, Silent E, Minds thru Eternity & a lot more. I know there are a lot , just waitin for this thing to happen, hopefuly would be able to take it to a higher level.

Lets support the local prog scene, its not all about pogi rock or whatever we may call it.

[Deadwing]

blame the government hehehe. another reason if there aren't enough already. think of the target market. out of the 20% above the poverty level, how many among them would love prog. the 80percent are too busy working for food, maybe only 3percent of the total population would be open to it. if we were a 1st world country, we'd have more time to listen and learn music and being a professional musician alone would be enough to get by. it's like a very sophisticated taste, how can it flourish in such a depressed country. maybe with a better economy, music appreciation would flourish as well?

I don't think that theory holds true either.  Out here in the US, you'd say that you enjoyed bands like The Flower Kings, Threshold, Enchant, or Echolyn, they'd think you took in a heavy dose of retard pills.  I think the underground appeal, similar to other genres like Death Metal or Minimalist Electronica is what attracts a devoted following out of people who enjoy this form of music.

[chadrobles]

here's an instrumental cut for our upcoming release "Filipinas 1800" This is a pre-mixed version of the song, hope u guys enjoy!

feel free to post ur comments here.  lets support the pinoy prog community

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pageartist.cfm?bandID=570608

[ferdie]

Meron pero di sila sisikat... Sobrang dami ng mga magagaling na banda diyan na nagtatago at di sumisikat kasi ang nabibigyan ng chance ay yung mga novelty acts.

I guess its not about being famous but more of a personal gratification. if you're into musical journey, then go for it, continue the quest for technical supremacy It would all bog down to the objective of the band. if its money-making, showband would do, wana be famous then? then go for pogi rock.If prog bands will make it to the top, then its just an added incentive.  

world peace!

Thanks for the reply, sir chad... Minsan kasi baka marami jan na nawawalan ng gana and nagsi switch na lang sa showband for the money. Pero prog ang puso nila. I know na ang ibang musikero, hobby lang ang tumugtog. Pero paano naman ang mga mahihirap na may pangarap? That's why I'm asking if there's a place for progressive music in pop. Yun lang.

cguro di lng sa progressive music nangyayari 'to pero pati na din sa ibang music genre like blues, jazz and death metal. Pero siguro kung may mga tao na tatayo not necessarily para maginvest pero para masigasig na ipalaganap ang mga music genre na 'to walang imposible. Ang alam ko sa blues nanjan cla Deltaslim and company na doing every little thing para i-promote ang blues like putting up a website ang holding blues gigs... cguro kapag nasustain yang mga ganyang steps di malayong ma-achieve yung goal... Same with progressive music... kailangan may tumayo.. dami natin magaling na musician dito sayang naman...

[FullofEbak]

i think it would be nice kung naging masa ung prog, tipong pineplay sa yes Fm ang symphony x, etc. at pinapakinggan ng mga jeepney driver. but what is it that makes songs pang-masa? melody, lyrics, catchiness, etc... i guess some bands do is they compromise, they sacrifice alittle their personal tastes to make it 'just a bit' more marketable, but not too much. but how many percent of bands really do that?

i remember before i asked a girl friend of mine who likes rock music, and i was listening to metallica cd at that time, if she liked metallica and she said, ''what, but not one of them is even slightly cute'', baka isa pang factor yun hehe. or the same girl commented when i was listening to a prog-song, ''ahh it sounds like pag nag jajamming muna ung band before they actually play a song''.. so i guess it didnt even sound like a real song to her.

what if you got manny pacquiao to sing a progsong Maybe what it just needs alittle good marketing push to get it going. something to get peoples attention.

or maybe it needs to be slowly incorporated so the non prog-listeners will be slowly used to it. baka magulat kung biglaan. mejo baka alien pakinggan.

[kaktoozcombo]

mga sir..actually, pareho lang halos tayo sa US in terms of statistics or proportion... example..mas madami pa din  may alam at nag-aapreciate  sa US kay Shakira, Usher at sino pa Pop star kaysa mga Prog artists..ang kaibahan lang..sobra laki nila..so kahitna siguro yun 1% lang ng market nila makuha ng prog..eh ang laki na ng fan base.. ganun din sa Pinas..maliit ang percentage ng may gusto ng prog, but then, maliit din yung actual bilang ng market... yung pop, kahit saan parte ng mundo, yun talaga ang dominante..kaya nga pop eh..hehe... although totoo talaga na minsan, abuso na sa pagiging sell-out ng iba... well, siguro gawa na din na mga negosyante pa din ang nasa likod ng industriya.. it's a fact that, without money, di talaga tatakbo ito... hirap lumugar noh? hehe ... swerte ng iba na marketable ang type of music without actually compromising.. but then, i'm sure along the way merong little adjustments yun...

just a thought.. la lang magawa... peace !!!

[drummer_boy17]

Marami jan mga nakikinig at nanonood sa mga progressive bands, foreign at local. Hindi lang kasi nagigising. Inis sa music scene ng bansa, pero kind enough to not ranting so much. (tama ba english?)

Can we do it? Kaya ba nito makilaban sa mga pogi-rock at mga pop stars? Do they have a place here?

Insights naman jan, people.

Thanks...

Maraming mga progressive bands sa bansa pero walang nakaka appreciate ng songs nila kci un iba iniisip na maingay yun mga instruments nila. I LOVE PROGRESSIVE INSTRUMENTAL/METAL/ROCK!.. hehe.

[kid_moll]

Can we do it as a 2 way thingie? Like halimbawa sa songs, we can make progressive music in a vibe na makukuha nilang mga listeners yung feel ng kanta and love it, at the same time be interested sa genre na ito?

Parang yung ginawa nila sa rock... or sa emo. di ba ngayon c Bamboo kasali na sa pop scene?

[drummer_boy17]

Can we do it as a 2 way thingie? Like halimbawa sa songs, we can make progressive music in a vibe na makukuha nilang mga listeners yung feel ng kanta and love it, at the same time be interested sa genre na ito?

Parang yung ginawa nila sa rock... or sa emo. di ba ngayon c Bamboo kasali na sa pop scene?

pwede rin.. dapat makuha nila yun panlasa ng tao.. pag nag instrumental parts na sila..

[ayoice]

maybe we should all remember what prog is for... it was never for the masses... so i suggest all u prog dudes out there... never stop... musicians will always appreciate prog for its genius and flexibility... maybe not the masses but keep in mind that musicians will always love prog!!! those who are technical enough anyway...

[born2groove]

I belong to a showband and a progband,, pro my heart is with prog talaga!!

[drummer_boy17]

maybe we should all remember what prog is for... it was never for the masses... so i suggest all u prog dudes out there... never stop... musicians will always appreciate prog for its genius and flexibility... maybe not the masses but keep in mind that musicians will always love prog!!! those who are technical enough anyway...

tama ka.. nakahiligan ko rin yan kasi more on technical at grbe genius sila kasi ang galing nila mag mix nga mga instruments ng iba-iba ang tempo.. wag tayong titigil sa pagiging Prog addicts.. hehe.. do you have your own progressive compositions?.. kahit Instrumental lang..