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Offline jofel

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Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« on: June 16, 2012, 05:51:57 PM »
Magandang araw mga Sirs, noob lang po ako and I am just starting up a sound system rental business, at tanong ko lang po kung sapat na ba ang isang 10,000 Watts Nissin Servo Type AVR na magsupply sa lahat ng equipment ko:

1 pc Crown LPS 800 running the highs of the 2 pcs SRX 725 clones when in bi-amp mode
1 pc M Audio MA-1000 running 2 pcs Wharfedale EVP-R12 Speakers
1 pc M Audio MA-2400 running 2 pcs SRX 725 clones
1 pc M Audio MA-3000 running 2 pcs w-boxes with P-Audio 18" (Don't know the exact model)
1 pcKevler PCS-208 Power Conditioner/Sequencer
1 pc Soundcraft MFXI-20 Mixer
1 pc DBX Driverack PA +
1 pc Peavey PV 231EQ
1 pc BBE 882i Sonic Maximizer
1 pc DBX 266x Compressor
8 pcs 10mm (177) LED Par Cans
1 pc Fog Machine (Forgot the specs)
1 pc Laney RB9 Amp Head (300watts) driving the 1 pc Laney RB410 (4x10 cab)
1 pc Laney AH100
1 pc Marshall MG100HFX Amp Head (100watts) driving the 1 pc MG412 (4x12 cab)
1 pc Marshall V65R Amp (65watts)

Any recommendations or suggestions will be highly appreciated. TIA po!


Offline jofel

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2012, 11:35:28 PM »
Hope somebody can help. May event na ako this coming Friday, full band setup, my first ever gig hopefully. Di ko pa na test yung mga gamit ko kase di ko alam paano supplyan ng kuryente yung mga power amps. Takot naman ako ikabit directly to the ordinary wall sockets/outlets sa bahay yung mga amps. :-(

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2012, 09:24:19 AM »
Hope somebody can help. May event na ako this coming Friday, full band setup, my first ever gig hopefully. Di ko pa na test yung mga gamit ko kase di ko alam paano supplyan ng kuryente yung mga power amps. Takot naman ako ikabit directly to the ordinary wall sockets/outlets sa bahay yung mga amps. :-(

 mga master tulungan natin sya!!!ako sensya na hindi ko din alam yan :)

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 10:29:36 AM »
mga master tulungan natin sya!!!ako sensya na hindi ko din alam yan :)
Hehe! Salamat po sir sa pag up! :)

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2012, 03:06:10 PM »
kaya ng 10kva AVR yang system mo sir, kailangan lang ikabit sa at least 30 amps power source..


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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 03:46:06 PM »
kaya ng 10kva AVR yang system mo sir, kailangan lang ikabit sa at least 30 amps power source..
Thank you so much sa sagot sir! Anong klase at gauge ng wire kaya ang kailangan kong gamitin to connect the AVR to the power source sir? Ok lang ba yung stranded wire #10?

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2012, 06:39:16 PM »
Thank you so much sa sagot sir! Anong klase at gauge ng wire kaya ang kailangan kong gamitin to connect the AVR to the power source sir? Ok lang ba yung stranded wire #10?
#10 or 5.5mm for main na royal cable pwede na,,gamit ko kc 6mm royal cable katulad nito,,                                                                                                                                                                                                 
« Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 06:42:41 PM by mants »

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2012, 07:16:20 PM »
Thank you so much sa sagot sir! Anong klase at gauge ng wire kaya ang kailangan kong gamitin to connect the AVR to the power source sir? Ok lang ba yung stranded wire #10?
pwede na ito sir wag lang masyado mahaba..

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2012, 09:41:35 PM »
#10 or 5.5mm for main na royal cable pwede na,,gamit ko kc 6mm royal cable katulad nito,,                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Thanks sir! Mukhang matibay talaga yan sir! Saan po ito nabibili at magkano naman po kaya per foot/meter nito?

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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2012, 09:43:53 PM »
pwede na ito sir wag lang masyado mahaba..
Thanks sir! Mga hanggang ilang meters lang po kaya ang maximum length nyan dapat sir?

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2012, 10:02:12 PM »
Thanks sir! Mukhang matibay talaga yan sir! Saan po ito nabibili at magkano naman po kaya per foot/meter nito?
sorry sir dko alam kung magkano ang per/meter ng 6mm royal cable jan satin,galing korea kc ung royal cable ko hehe dto kc ako sa korea ngaun ang bili ko sa 6mm royal cable ko dto is 57pesos/meter...nka convert na s peso
« Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 10:05:41 PM by mants »

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2012, 10:20:08 PM »
sorry sir dko alam kung magkano ang per/meter ng 6mm royal cable jan satin,galing korea kc ung royal cable ko hehe dto kc ako sa korea ngaun ang bili ko sa 6mm royal cable ko dto is 57pesos/meter...nka convert na s peso
Ah! Hehe! Ok po sir. Try ko maghanap nyan sa mga electronic/hardware stores dito sa Bohol. Hehe! Nakabili na kase ako ng #10 stranded wire kanina, gamitin ko na lang for the meantime, sayang naman kase. And thank you sa replies nyo sir at suggestions!
« Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 10:22:26 PM by jofel »

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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2012, 10:37:23 PM »
Ah! Hehe! Ok po sir. Try ko maghanap nyan sa mga electronic/hardware stores dito sa Bohol. Hehe! Nakabili na kase ako ng #10 stranded wire kanina, gamitin ko na lang for the meantime, sayang naman kase. And thank you sa replies nyo sir at suggestions!
bumili ako dati sa hardware saamin sa pangasinan 3.5mm lang royal cable or #12  75peso n per meter how much more pa kaya ung 6mm hmmmm...
« Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 10:39:33 PM by mants »

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2012, 10:45:09 PM »
bumili ako dati sa hardware saamin sa pangasinan 3.5mm lang royal cable or #12  75peso n per meter how much more pa kaya ung 6mm hmmmm...
:-o Waa! Baka nasa 150-200 pesos per meter yan! :-(
« Last Edit: June 17, 2012, 10:47:23 PM by jofel »

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2012, 08:48:42 AM »
#10 or 5.5mm for main na royal cable pwede na,,gamit ko kc 6mm royal cable katulad nito,,                                                                                                                                                                                                 

5.5 diameter ito sir or 5.5 square mm? baka 5.5 mm diameter ito, halos gauge 3 na

Offline apeng

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2012, 10:58:02 AM »
Mga Ser newbie question lang, yung royal cable na nasa picture ay parang extension cord?

Sound system -> AVR –> royal cable –> power source?

Tama po ba?

Salamat!

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2012, 12:26:17 PM »
5.5 diameter ito sir or 5.5 square mm? baka 5.5 mm diameter ito, halos gauge 3 na
sir yong nabili ko ay 6mm sq. yong laki mismo ng 2 wire n nsa loob ay 6mm sq.

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2012, 02:03:43 PM »
yung sa pic, mataba talaga kasi eh, kala ko ganyan din kataba nabili mo sir mants..

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2012, 02:41:22 PM »
yung sa pic, mataba talaga kasi eh, kala ko ganyan din kataba nabili mo sir mants..

Sir baka #6 yan, masyadong mataba for a 6mm sq.

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2012, 03:02:24 PM »
Magandang araw mga Sirs, noob lang po ako and I am just starting up a sound system rental business, at tanong ko lang po kung sapat na ba ang isang 10,000 Watts Nissin Servo Type AVR na magsupply sa lahat ng equipment ko:

1 pc Crown LPS 800 running the highs of the 2 pcs SRX 725 clones when in bi-amp mode
1 pc M Audio MA-1000 running 2 pcs Wharfedale EVP-R12 Speakers
1 pc M Audio MA-2400 running 2 pcs SRX 725 clones
1 pc M Audio MA-3000 running 2 pcs w-boxes with P-Audio 18" (Don't know the exact model)
1 pcKevler PCS-208 Power Conditioner/Sequencer
1 pc Soundcraft MFXI-20 Mixer
1 pc DBX Driverack PA +
1 pc Peavey PV 231EQ
1 pc BBE 882i Sonic Maximizer
1 pc DBX 266x Compressor
8 pcs 10mm (177) LED Par Cans
1 pc Fog Machine (Forgot the specs)
1 pc Laney RB9 Amp Head (300watts) driving the 1 pc Laney RB410 (4x10 cab)
1 pc Laney AH100
1 pc Marshall MG100HFX Amp Head (100watts) driving the 1 pc MG412 (4x12 cab)
1 pc Marshall V65R Amp (65watts)

Any recommendations or suggestions will be highly appreciated. TIA po!

Sir, if 10,000 VA yan ang current rating nang AVR mo is around 45 A. Use #8 AWG, if you will use #10 AWG kulang siya for a 45 A.

As to the question kung kaya ba nang AVR mo ang lahat nang gamit mo, try to sum up the wattage rating nang lahat mo gamit then multiply by 2. Dapat within lang siya sa wattage rating nang AVR mo.

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2012, 05:43:35 PM »
Sir, if 10,000 VA yan ang current rating nang AVR mo is around 45 A. Use #8 AWG, if you will use #10 AWG kulang siya for a 45 A.

As to the question kung kaya ba nang AVR mo ang lahat nang gamit mo, try to sum up the wattage rating nang lahat mo gamit then multiply by 2. Dapat within lang siya sa wattage rating nang AVR mo.
Thank you sa input sir! When I multiply the total wattage, lagpas po ata sya sa 10k. Meaning, kukulangin yung AVR ko?

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2012, 07:08:14 PM »
Thank you sa input sir! When I multiply the total wattage, lagpas po ata sya sa 10k. Meaning, kukulangin yung AVR ko?

The multiplier (which in this case is 2, applicable only for amplifier) is just an approximate, this is what I read before in this forum and for me is reasonable. If mas mababa ang power rating nang AVR mo kaysa connected load ma stress yong AVR and eventually mag trip ang protection nang AVR. 

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2012, 08:28:25 PM »
yung sa pic, mataba talaga kasi eh, kala ko ganyan din kataba nabili mo sir mants..
no sir sample ko lng yan for a royal cable hehe,,,malaki talaga yan,,,

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2012, 08:38:00 PM »
The multiplier (which in this case is 2, applicable only for amplifier) is just an approximate, this is what I read before in this forum and for me is reasonable. If mas mababa ang power rating nang AVR mo kaysa connected load ma stress yong AVR and eventually mag trip ang protection nang AVR.
Based po sa wattage table below sir, aling specific wattage ang gagamitin ko sa pag compute? In my case, I'm using an MA-1000, an MA-2400 and an MA-3000. Ilan watts po total sir?

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Re: Need Help on Supplying Power to My Sound System Equipment
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2012, 12:30:58 PM »
Based po sa wattage table below sir, aling specific wattage ang gagamitin ko sa pag compute? In my case, I'm using an MA-1000, an MA-2400 and an MA-3000. Ilan watts po total sir?


Sir, for me your reference would be kung ano ang set-up mo. If you use stereo then 8 ohms load mo, that woul be your reference. For examaple, MA-1000, ang wattage nya is 400 watts per channel if 8 ohms ang load mo, so ang total is 800 watts then multiple mo pa nang 2.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2012, 12:35:17 PM by Mauc »