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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #225 on: October 04, 2013, 08:00:43 AM »
Never really liked the sound of a dual rec. Sounds too gritty.

Demo, then a good solid state amp would always sound better than dual rec for you. That is your preference/standard.


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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #226 on: October 04, 2013, 08:06:09 AM »
I said photos not videos or you're just dumb?

Eat your words: http://flickr.com/dtmateojr

He's not dumb. He's just referring to this video.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #227 on: October 04, 2013, 08:18:06 AM »
And then there are SS like the Line6 Spider that will blow away your cliched Dual Rectifier.
You're joking, right? Have you played through both? Extensively? I have. Guess which one I ended up buying (just look at my avatar).

However, if you truly prefer the sound and feel of SS over tubes, that's perfectly OK. Everyone has the right to his own preference.

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Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #228 on: October 04, 2013, 08:22:23 AM »
Demo, then a good solid state amp would always sound better than dual rec for you. That is your preference/standard.

Right from the start, this thread was always been about preferences. Tube snobs don't seem to get that.

Edit: tube snobs think their preferences are superior. Doh?!
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #229 on: October 04, 2013, 08:26:35 AM »

oh sorry, i was just assuming that good cameras always have a decent video option. yours were celphone quality. you did a pretty good representation of the line 6 tone though

Those videos were either captured with an iPhone in a dimly lit room. I can do better than that but it's not a video demo it's a music demo. Even if I improved the video the music would still suck anyway LOL!
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #230 on: October 04, 2013, 08:33:24 AM »
Right from the start, this thread was always been about preferences. Tube snobs don't seem to get that.

Edit: tube snobs think their preferences are superior. Doh?!

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #231 on: October 04, 2013, 08:37:16 AM »


based on  MY exposure to these type of amps, i still go for Tube Amps over Solid state.

Same here. Unless my hearing is failing me, the sound of tube amps is nicer to my ears. Cranked solid state amps are too sharp for my taste, though I haven't tried the high end ones. For similarly priced amps I will go for tube amps.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #232 on: October 04, 2013, 08:38:44 AM »
He's not dumb. He's just referring to this video.


sounds really Marshall-y.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #233 on: October 04, 2013, 08:41:20 AM »
I'm a huge solid state fan but it's my personal fetish. For the longest time, my gigging amp was a 1962 SA-2 specifically because I planned to use it with modelers and needed a sterile tone and wanted to kick it around stage without breaking. Both types of amps have their uses but the truth of the matter is where you could get the APPROXIMATE tone of "legendary" amps, that doesn't factor in speaker response, sag, harmonics, feel etc. So whereas the prevailing opinion of this thread skews away from my personal gear preference (can take getting kicked sideways on stage and can gig the next day, not TOO crap sounding), I understand that tube amps are an artform.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #234 on: October 04, 2013, 08:43:26 AM »
Same here. Unless my hearing is failing me, the sound of tube amps is nicer to my ears. Cranked solid state amps are too sharp for my taste, though I haven't tried the high end ones. For similarly priced amps I will go for tube amps.

same here man. it has never been pleasant to me  :-\
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #235 on: October 04, 2013, 08:46:28 AM »
I'm a huge solid state fan but it's my personal fetish. For the longest time, my gigging amp was a 1962 SA-2 specifically because I planned to use it with modelers and needed a sterile tone and wanted to kick it around stage without breaking. Both types of amps have their uses but the truth of the matter is where you could get the APPROXIMATE tone of "legendary" amps, that doesn't factor in speaker response, sag, harmonics, feel etc. So whereas the prevailing opinion of this thread skews away from my personal gear preference (can take getting kicked sideways on stage and can gig the next day, not TOO crap sounding), I understand that tube amps are an artform.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #236 on: October 04, 2013, 08:48:22 AM »
Being part of the minority is so you! :lol: :lol:

Unless I wind up with an AC15. :))
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #237 on: October 04, 2013, 09:09:56 AM »

I'm a huge solid state fan but it's my personal fetish. For the longest time, my gigging amp was a 1962 SA-2 specifically because I planned to use it with modelers and needed a sterile tone and wanted to kick it around stage without breaking. Both types of amps have their uses but the truth of the matter is where you could get the APPROXIMATE tone of "legendary" amps, that doesn't factor in speaker response, sag, harmonics, feel etc. So whereas the prevailing opinion of this thread skews away from my personal gear preference (can take getting kicked sideways on stage and can gig the next day, not TOO crap sounding), I understand that tube amps are an artform.

I would have to agree with this. Well said.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #238 on: October 04, 2013, 09:11:01 AM »

sounds really Marshall-y.

I can hear the sarcasm.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #239 on: October 04, 2013, 09:14:51 AM »
Unless I wind up with an AC15. :))

FICKLE FICKLE.

Tube amps are the shiz. But I have love for the ZT's and the ZT's only at the moment for solid states.

To my ears, nothing sounded the sweetest for my LP to plug into than a cranked JCM900. No valvestate or solidstate marshall can sound like that. There goes.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #240 on: October 04, 2013, 09:17:57 AM »
FICKLE FICKLE.

Tube amps are the shiz. But I have love for the ZT's and the ZT's only at the moment for solid states.

To my ears, nothing sounded the sweetest for my LP to plug into than a cranked JCM900. No valvestate or solidstate marshall can sound like that. There goes.

Well, I DID get rid of the SA-2. Currently ampless so the ball is in favor of tube. :))
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #241 on: October 04, 2013, 09:26:38 AM »
I can hear the sarcasm.

took you long enough, genius.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #242 on: October 04, 2013, 09:30:01 AM »
I can read the sarcasm.

Fixed. You're welcome.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #243 on: October 04, 2013, 09:47:30 AM »

took you long enough, genius.

I bet you wouldn't know what amp was used for that :)
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #244 on: October 04, 2013, 09:57:43 AM »
I bet you wouldn't know what amp was used for that :)

is it a Line6 Spider? i was blown away by the tone.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #245 on: October 04, 2013, 09:59:01 AM »
mag tone party na lang kayo pag nadalaw si Dtmateo sa Pinas.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #246 on: October 04, 2013, 10:00:50 AM »
is it a Line6 Spider? i was blown away by the tone.



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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #247 on: October 04, 2013, 10:01:46 AM »
mag tone party na lang kayo pag nadalaw si Dtmateo sa Pinas.

Good idea!


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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #248 on: October 04, 2013, 10:06:32 AM »
buti na lang may acoustic guitar...

ay mali yata yun thread na napasukan ko  :-(

anyway.

parehas ko trip sound ng tube and SS. ewan ko, baka pana panahon lang.  :?
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #249 on: October 04, 2013, 10:08:38 AM »


Dual Rec killer.   :)

Eto naiisip ko eh :-/

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