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Offline DiMarzSiao™

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #325 on: October 04, 2013, 02:44:43 PM »
I'm sure there are those who can play though not every one of them. The noisiest are usually those who can't.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #326 on: October 04, 2013, 02:47:31 PM »
Dude, music stores here have dedicated rooms to test amps at ear splitting levels. Any amp. Sorry to tell you that some megabuck tube amps sound crap (Egnater comes to mind first). Some amps are very choosy with guitars. And then there are SS like the Line6 Spider that will blow away your cliched Dual Rectifier.

Money is not (yet) a real issue. I have spent so much more on photography than anything I have ever spent on music. Always go for the bigger ROI. Tube amps don't give me money LOL!

For the record, I don't have a Dual Rectifier.  I do have the Line 6 Spider Jam which is great for backing CD parts, metronome functions and drum machine.  And I just compared it AGAIN to my 25th Anniversary Marshall, 30th Anniversary Marshall, JCM 900 SLX and Marshall Super Lead (circa 1972).  And you know what on all counts, the Marshalls beat the hell out of the Line 6.  But I do agree with you that there are SOME megabuck tube amps that sound like crap in a SEA of cheap solid state guitar amps.

Unless you tell me that ALL your camera equipment is ALL made by Leica, I am not impressed with your claim of having spent more on photography.  I can tell that you spend on guitar equipment that is cheap.  You earn money unless you have a built in slot machine in your solid state guitar amp. No amp can give you money even a solid state one.  By the way, great sounding tube amps are NOT choosy with guitars.  On the other hand, you may have a lousy sounding guitar if other higher quality guitars sound better with a specific tube amp.

If money is not a real issue (yet), I suggest you don't bother. Your HEARING seems to be the real issue.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #327 on: October 04, 2013, 02:48:37 PM »
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please crank up your tube amp so that you use your attenuators.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #328 on: October 04, 2013, 02:54:01 PM »
I just hope half of these tube snobs can strum a chord :)

I can strum a chord.  But I do hope you can sound better than my one chord.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #329 on: October 04, 2013, 02:56:42 PM »
I can strum a chord.  But I do hope you can sound better than my one chord.


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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #330 on: October 04, 2013, 02:57:00 PM »
I can strum a chord.  But I do hope you can sound better than my one chord.

Lol I think I know maybe 5-6 chords

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #331 on: October 04, 2013, 02:57:40 PM »
I can strum a chord.  But I do hope you can sound better than my one chord.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #332 on: October 04, 2013, 02:58:01 PM »
What?! You guys are tube this tube that, SS sucks and everything in between. At least show that you can play.

I do hope you can play better than tube amp users like steve vai, joe satriani, paul gilbert, nunu bettencourt, eddie van halen etc. now that you mention playing.

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« Reply #333 on: October 04, 2013, 02:58:49 PM »
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #334 on: October 04, 2013, 02:59:16 PM »

For the record, I don't have a Dual Rectifier.  I do have the Line 6 Spider Jam which is great for backing CD parts, metronome functions and drum machine.  And I just compared it AGAIN to my 25th Anniversary Marshall, 30th Anniversary Marshall, JCM 900 SLX and Marshall Super Lead (circa 1972).  And you know what on all counts, the Marshalls beat the hell out of the Line 6.  But I do agree with you that there are SOME megabuck tube amps that sound like crap in a SEA of cheap solid state guitar amps.

Unless you tell me that ALL your camera equipment is ALL made by Leica, I am not impressed with your claim of having spent more on photography.  I can tell that you spend on guitar equipment that is cheap.  You earn money unless you have a built in slot machine in your solid state guitar amp. No amp can give you money even a solid state one.  By the way, great sounding tube amps are NOT choosy with guitars.  On the other hand, you may have a lousy sounding guitar if other higher quality guitars sound better with a specific tube amp.

If money is not a real issue (yet), I suggest you don't bother. Your HEARING seems to be the real issue.

You don't know how many cameras I have and how much I have spent on fuel and hotels just to capture the right light. If you are ignorant on photography please don't even start discussing it with me.

BTW, I'm still waiting for your video.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #335 on: October 04, 2013, 03:01:00 PM »
Right from the start, this thread was always been about preferences. Tube snobs don't seem to get that.

Edit: tube snobs think their preferences are superior. Doh?!

When you call out Tube Snobs I understand that to mean people like you:)  LOL!

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #336 on: October 04, 2013, 03:03:57 PM »
You don't know how many cameras I have and how much I have spent on fuel and hotels just to capture the right light. If you are ignorant on photography please don't even start discussing it with me.

BTW, I'm still waiting for your video.

You don't know how many GUITAR AMPS I have and how much I have spent on PLANE TICKETS and HOTELS just to capture the right GUITAR SOUND.  If you are ignorant on TUBE GUITAR AMPS please don't even start discussing it with me.

BTW, I don't do videos.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #337 on: October 04, 2013, 03:04:20 PM »

I do hope you can play better than tube amp users like steve vai, joe satriani, paul gilbert, nunu bettencourt, eddie van halen etc. now that you mention playing.

I would never match them but from the way you preach about tube amps I bet YOU can. So let me hear you play.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #338 on: October 04, 2013, 03:05:57 PM »

When you call out Tube Snobs I understand that to mean people like you:)  LOL!

I understand that none of us here use English as the native language but being dumb is no excuse.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #339 on: October 04, 2013, 03:06:44 PM »

You don't know how many GUITAR AMPS I have and how much I have spent on PLANE TICKETS and HOTELS just to capture the right GUITAR SOUND.  If you are ignorant on TUBE GUITAR AMPS please don't even start discussing it with me.

BTW, I don't do videos.

No sound demos even?
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #340 on: October 04, 2013, 03:06:58 PM »
I love my soldano. pero damn, that axefx 2.. :cute: :cute: :cute:
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #341 on: October 04, 2013, 03:07:02 PM »
I would never match them but from the way you preach about tube amps I bet YOU can. So let me hear you play.

Do you reside in Manila or overseas?

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #342 on: October 04, 2013, 03:07:47 PM »
I love my soldano. pero damn, that axefx 2.. :cute: :cute: :cute:

may tubes ba ang axefx2? pag wala, panget yan.  :eek:
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #343 on: October 04, 2013, 03:07:56 PM »

I can strum a chord.  But I do hope you can sound better than my one chord.

Ok for once you made me chuckle :)
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #344 on: October 04, 2013, 03:08:20 PM »
I understand that none of us here use English as the native language but being dumb is no excuse.

Well you are the dude who started using the term Tube Snob which can swing either way.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #345 on: October 04, 2013, 03:08:38 PM »
Oh oh... These boys are on fire..!!!  :cute:
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #346 on: October 04, 2013, 03:08:57 PM »

Do you reside in Manila or overseas?

Who cares? The internet travels at the speed of light. Just post them.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #347 on: October 04, 2013, 03:10:14 PM »
may tubes ba ang axefx2? pag wala, panget yan.  :eek:

bawi nalang sa tube power amp para di madale ng tube snob. hahahaha!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #348 on: October 04, 2013, 03:10:59 PM »
From my own experience, a 30W amp at 4 driving a 1x12 speaker is unusable in most venues. In an open field, you would be audible 2Kms away.

Edit: The point is, you wont even get to the sweet spot of your amp in real situations. Not just testing. Real gigs.
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Halatang di mo alam pinagsasabi mo. Ang dami dami tube amps na makukuha mo sweet spot kahit nasa 3 lang volume. Kahit condo levels, makukuha mo sweet spot ng tube amp.

Audible ka nga 2kms away. Tunog utot ka naman tapos suffering ang headroom mo dahil sa wattage at cab choice mo. Wala pa rin. 

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #349 on: October 04, 2013, 03:11:13 PM »
Who cares? The internet travels at the speed of light. Just post them.

I don't do internet.  I believe thats not the correct way to evaluate guitar amps.