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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #100 on: November 15, 2009, 04:17:09 PM »
But then again, after all is said and done at hindi ka pa rin sumikat.......consider this:

People who are very proficient in musical instruments comprise of only (I think) 25% of the world's population. The other 75% don't. So even if you don't make it big, playing music be it original or covered is a reward in itself. Kasi hindi lahat marunong tumugtog.

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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #101 on: November 15, 2009, 08:56:03 PM »
wala sa yaman yan or sa lupit mong tumugtog. nasa kanta yan.
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« Reply #102 on: November 15, 2009, 11:17:50 PM »
this may be true but honestly this is really silly.

kung mayayaman nga sila, pwede naman sila hindi na mag banda diba? they can just relax and sleep all day right? but here they are making music, nagtratrabaho parin sila. they are not born with those talents, pinaghihirapan din nila yan. kung mayaman sila, well can you blame them? what you have to understand is these people love music, mahirap or mayaman pa yan. at kahit mahirap or kahit mayaman, hindi lahat mararating yung gusto nila, kahit sa anong larangan pa yan. 

if someone's complaining that he can't buy better equipment kasi wala syang pera, then work for it, hindi naman impossible yan. kung wala kayong pang recording may paraan parin yan, nakakabili nga ng celphones, psps, and other stuff na luho lang talaga kahit mahirap lang. tyaga and sakripisyo lang.

if someone's complaining that rich guys are better because they have good music lessons. think of the most popular songs. most of them are really easy to play. why? because good songs are good songs. hindi mo naman kailangan mag aral sa berkley to be able to write good songs.

it may be true that if youre from a wealthy and influential family mas madali ang means and connections. but if youre not, will you still do it?
kung wala kang magandang gamit, hindi ka nakapag aral ng music, will you still do it?
kung walang makagusto sa mga kanta mo at walang maka appreciate sayo, will you still do it?

why?

kung ako tanungin, oo kasi mahal ko ang ginagawa ko. im doing this for myself. masaya ako dito e. kung wala ako marating at magsayang lang ako ng oras well i have no one to blame but myself. :-) 


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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #103 on: November 16, 2009, 02:53:20 AM »
dahil madali lng ang recording sa kanila sila rin ang nag mamanage sa work nila di tulad natin nag hahanap ng maneger?
tsk...



 YeaH.. you've Got a point! pERO  "Di nman kailangan MAYAMAN ANG MANAGER NYU!!!


  SABI NGA:

 "Money-This shouldn’t be a hindrance for you to fulfill your dreams. Bands start from scratch, lahat naman kayo nagwowork, pare pareho lang kayo maglalabas ng money, hindi dapat ikaw lang, it should be a group effort, coz all of you are working anyway. Later on na kayo maghati hati pag may kinikita na ang band. For now, your mind set should be “investment” muna ang lahat"

                                                            ---------------------Soki Munar ex-manager Chicosci and stonefree.

 This is the advice sa akin ni Soki in Managing a band!, Yes i am Band Manager...I'm not rich, but i have the confident to Manage my Band. Why?? Because 'THEY TRUST ME SO MUCH!..mY MAJOR mOTIVATION IS MY BAND. NOT A RECOGNITION OF THE MY MANAGER!(actually i don't consider my self as a manager, i'm doing managing work because of my love in music and for the band!) . IF THE BAND HAVE THE TRUST AND CONFIDENT TO THE ONE WHO MANAGING THEM, WELL THE MANAGER WILL DO THE SAME!. Don't look after his/her status in life, But look for the manager who are really WORK FOR THE MUSIC NOT WORK FOR THE MONEY. If you really like what is your doing...DO YOUR BEST AND WORK AS A TEAM. dI YONG "MANAGER LANG!!!"
"THE BEST KIND OF MUSIC IS THE MUSIC THAT MAKES YOUR PARENT ENSANE"

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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #104 on: November 16, 2009, 05:32:39 PM »
hanggat gumagamit tayo ng pera para bumili ng bagay bagay hindi ako maniniwalang hindi pera ang isang dahilan kung bakit sumisikat ang isang banda. bumili ka nga ng 400 pesos na acoustic guitar na nilalako sa talipapa kung sisikat ka.  humawak ka ng 4milyon tingnan ko lang kung after 24 hours wala ka exposure sa media at album.  tatay at nanay mo nagtitinda ng balot pero talented ka, tapos yung isang family nagmamayari ng oil firm sa pinas pero not talented yung anak pero gusto magproduce ng album o magbanda.  tingnan mo sino mas mabilis makikilala sa sitwasyon na ito.


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« Reply #105 on: November 16, 2009, 09:22:05 PM »
13thchapter manage mo naman kami.
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« Reply #106 on: November 16, 2009, 09:32:03 PM »
hanggat gumagamit tayo ng pera para bumili ng bagay bagay hindi ako maniniwalang hindi pera ang isang dahilan kung bakit sumisikat ang isang banda. bumili ka nga ng 400 pesos na acoustic guitar na nilalako sa talipapa kung sisikat ka.  humawak ka ng 4milyon tingnan ko lang kung after 24 hours wala ka exposure sa media at album.  tatay at nanay mo nagtitinda ng balot pero talented ka, tapos yung isang family nagmamayari ng oil firm sa pinas pero not talented yung anak pero gusto magproduce ng album o magbanda.  tingnan mo sino mas mabilis makikilala sa sitwasyon na ito.

*lol*

no offense dude, but this logic is just totally fvcked up.

what can i say?

ppl would rather blame the rich than blame their mediocre song writing abilities.

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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #107 on: November 16, 2009, 09:35:54 PM »
just because we are poor (so to speak) doesn't give us the right to insult, degrade, or belittle the rich guys and put all the their hard work to shame by saying that they became popular just because they're loaded.

but sure, having money makes everything easier. but money can only get you so far.

Garbage in, garbage out.

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« Reply #108 on: November 16, 2009, 09:43:47 PM »
Yup, all of these are true. Pero like in my band's case. How can we step up kung wala kaming malakas na connections in the industry? Kasi we've been giving demo's like for a couple of years now pero wala pa ring result.

you wont be "stepping up" just because you have connections... of course, you have a bigger chance, but nothing's for certain ...

we live in a 3rd world country and the market here is just too small...

how can you step up? ... you probably cant, the same way i cant...

so thats the thing, if you play music to "step up" and live the life, prepared to be disappointed. that's like taking up karate and expecting to win a UFC lightweight title.

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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #109 on: November 16, 2009, 11:27:53 PM »
hanggat gumagamit tayo ng pera para bumili ng bagay bagay hindi ako maniniwalang hindi pera ang isang dahilan kung bakit sumisikat ang isang banda. bumili ka nga ng 400 pesos na acoustic guitar na nilalako sa talipapa kung sisikat ka.  humawak ka ng 4milyon tingnan ko lang kung after 24 hours wala ka exposure sa media at album.  tatay at nanay mo nagtitinda ng balot pero talented ka, tapos yung isang family nagmamayari ng oil firm sa pinas pero not talented yung anak pero gusto magproduce ng album o magbanda.  tingnan mo sino mas mabilis makikilala sa sitwasyon na ito.

 In our personality seminar "MONEY" ONLY TAKES 72% OF OUR LIFE, WHILE ATTITUDE MAKES US "PERPECT!". If you are in a band BASICALLY money is the MAJOR needs. WE all know that! From own gears alone including the maintenance, studio practice,recording and what so ever paggagastusan. It's all ask for "MONEY!MONEY!MONEY!" YON ay kung your intention is to GET A LOT OF FAME.

 My Band always telling me:

 "avRea:(true name ko) we don't need MONEY, all we need is "TALENT!". Nakakatawa diba? They don't look after the important usage of money as the major way to success.

They said:

 "underground lang kami! hahahhah...all what we asking for is just to express our music to THE people. A MUSIC THAT EVEN IF WILL NOT SUCCED THERE IS ONE THING THAT MARKS IN THIER HEART, ENOUGH THAT THEY QUITE LIKE OUR MUSIC. AND IT WILL BE THE EVIDENCE THAT "ATLEAST WE EXIST".

REMEMBER THAT GOD IS NOT DEAF TO HEAR WHAT WE WANT...

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS TO HAVE FATE!

DO YOUR TASK...
HAVE PATIENCE!
BE HARDWORKING!

TANGGALIN ANG "bAHALA NA MANNERS!"

MAKE ALL THE THINGS POSSIBLE!

REMEMBER:
"KAPAG GUSTO MARAMING PARAAN, PAG-AYAW MARAMING DAHILAN"
(sana hindi mading dahilan ang PERA para bitawan ang yong INAASAM. Bow!)  :-D
« Last Edit: November 16, 2009, 11:36:58 PM by 13thchapter »
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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #110 on: November 16, 2009, 11:31:00 PM »
yeah, we must have FATE! :-D

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« Reply #111 on: November 16, 2009, 11:32:44 PM »
In our personality seminar "MONEY" ONLY TAKES 72% OF OUR LIFE, WHILE ATTITUDE MAKES US "PERPECT!". If you are in a band BASICALLY money is the MAJOR needs. WE all know that! From own gears alone including the maintenance, studio practice,recording and what so ever paggagastusan. It's all ask for "MONEY!MONEY!MONEY!" YON ay kung your intention is to GET A LOT OF FAME.

 My Band always told me:

 "avRea:(true name ko) we don't need MONEY, all we need is "TALENT!". Nakakatawa diba? They don't look after the important usage of money as the major way to success.

They said:

 "underground lang kami! hahahhah...all what we asking for is just to express our music to THE people. A MUSIC THAT EVEN IF WILL NOT SUCCED THERE IS ONE THING THAT MARKS IN THIER HEART, ENOUGH THAT THEY QUITE LIKE OUR MUSIC. AND IT WILL BE THE EVIDENCE THAT "ATLEAST WE EXIST".

REMEMBER THAT GOD IS NOT DEAF TO HEAR WHAT WE WANT...

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS TO HAVE FATE!

DO YOUR TASK...
HAVE PATIENCE!
BE HARDWORKING!

TANGGALIN ANG "bAHALA NA MANNERS!"

MAKE ALL THE THINGS POSSIBLE!

REMEMBER:
"KAPAG GUSTO MARAMING PARAAN, PAG-AYAW MARAMING DAHILAN"
(sana hindi mading dahilan ang PERA para bitawan ang yong INAASAM. Bow!)  :-D


Nice speech man. Joke! Agree ako sayo man. Just enjoy what ure doing. :-)

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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #112 on: November 17, 2009, 02:35:14 AM »
it all boils down to connections siguro. :-)

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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #113 on: November 17, 2009, 08:57:38 AM »
yeah, we must have FATE! :-D

no, its actually fit.

we mas hab fit!


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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #114 on: November 17, 2009, 09:21:20 AM »
Parang sa pagaaral lang sa school yan eh. Kung hinde ka mayaman dapat matalino ka at papasa ka. Kung hindi ka matalino, bilihin mo ang talino at papasa ka. Sadly, money makes the world go 'round pero not in all cases, pero we have to admit, money is a great factor in almost everything.

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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #115 on: November 17, 2009, 01:41:53 PM »
opinion ko lang mga sir. sana walang magagalit sa mga tatamaan.

siguro karamihan ng mga sentiments ng mga nagbabanda ay kung bakit hindi sila sumisikat. samantalang pag mayaman eh mas malaki ang chance sumikat.
marami pa nagsasabi na bakit sumikat yan, eh ang bano naman ng tugtugan, well papano ba natin nasabi na mas maganda yung tugutgan natin kesa sa kanila, dahil ba sa monster shredding ng guitarist natin, dahil ba sa matinding basslines at drumlines?
eh what about the message of the music. minsan, sa tingin nating mga musikero, maganda yung music natin. pero ang totoo, hindi naman tayo tumutugtog para sa mga kapwa musikero din, bagkus ay sa pangkalahatan. kasama na dyan ang mga wala namang alam sa music kungdi makinig lang.

isa pa, ano ba ang purpose mo bakit ka nagbabanda? para SUMIKAT? or para i express ang music mo?

okei lumalayo na, ang bottomline is, dont blame the rich kids if they are sikat and you are not. remember, kaya nila ginawa yun kasi passion nila yan. yan ang gusto nila gawin. nag sacrifice din yang mga yan. kung ako ay isang mayaman na negosyante at may anak na mahilig magbanda, syempre mas gusto ko na mag aral syang mabuti at in the future eh i manage ang business namin. di naman araw araw sikat.






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« Reply #116 on: November 17, 2009, 01:49:26 PM »
opinion ko lang mga sir. sana walang magagalit sa mga tatamaan.

siguro karamihan ng mga sentiments ng mga nagbabanda ay kung bakit hindi sila sumisikat. samantalang pag mayaman eh mas malaki ang chance sumikat.
marami pa nagsasabi na bakit sumikat yan, eh ang bano naman ng tugtugan, well papano ba natin nasabi na mas maganda yung tugutgan natin kesa sa kanila, dahil ba sa monster shredding ng guitarist natin, dahil ba sa matinding basslines at drumlines?
eh what about the message of the music. minsan, sa tingin nating mga musikero, maganda yung music natin. pero ang totoo, hindi naman tayo tumutugtog para sa mga kapwa musikero din, bagkus ay sa pangkalahatan. kasama na dyan ang mga wala namang alam sa music kungdi makinig lang.

isa pa, ano ba ang purpose mo bakit ka nagbabanda? para SUMIKAT? or para i express ang music mo?

okei lumalayo na, ang bottomline is, dont blame the rich kids if they are sikat and you are not. remember, kaya nila ginawa yun kasi passion nila yan. yan ang gusto nila gawin. nag sacrifice din yang mga yan. kung ako ay isang mayaman na negosyante at may anak na mahilig magbanda, syempre mas gusto ko na mag aral syang mabuti at in the future eh i manage ang business namin. di naman araw araw sikat.


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« Reply #117 on: November 18, 2009, 01:53:12 PM »
 :-D :-D :-D

let me bring up a point

Defining "mayaman".

     -"mayaman" is subjective eh. is it income versus actual spending? what defines "mayaman"? because what may be rich for some, may not be for others. e.g. for a person earning 175 pesos a day hawking balut, a person who earns 8 thousand a month filing papers and drives a Kia pride is "rich". for a person driving a Ford Expedition to work thats a different story.

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basically, if you want to be in a band you will really need *kaching* $$$$

you can manage with a cheap Raon guitar, a Denio pedal and cheap cables. a drummer can make do with
cheap sticks and lazer double pedals

but if you really want to play seriously, you'd be shelling out money to buy good gear to sound good.

there are many great musicians but just dont have access to good gear and its sad to see pubescent kids being bought Gibson les pauls by their dads, knowing that after a year that guitar will probably just gather dust in the bedroom.

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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #118 on: November 18, 2009, 09:23:37 PM »
opinion ko lang mga sir. sana walang magagalit sa mga tatamaan.

siguro karamihan ng mga sentiments ng mga nagbabanda ay kung bakit hindi sila sumisikat. samantalang pag mayaman eh mas malaki ang chance sumikat.
marami pa nagsasabi na bakit sumikat yan, eh ang bano naman ng tugtugan, well papano ba natin nasabi na mas maganda yung tugutgan natin kesa sa kanila, dahil ba sa monster shredding ng guitarist natin, dahil ba sa matinding basslines at drumlines?
eh what about the message of the music. minsan, sa tingin nating mga musikero, maganda yung music natin. pero ang totoo, hindi naman tayo tumutugtog para sa mga kapwa musikero din, bagkus ay sa pangkalahatan. kasama na dyan ang mga wala namang alam sa music kungdi makinig lang.

isa pa, ano ba ang purpose mo bakit ka nagbabanda? para SUMIKAT? or para i express ang music mo?

okei lumalayo na, ang bottomline is, dont blame the rich kids if they are sikat and you are not. remember, kaya nila ginawa yun kasi passion nila yan. yan ang gusto nila gawin. nag sacrifice din yang mga yan. kung ako ay isang mayaman na negosyante at may anak na mahilig magbanda, syempre mas gusto ko na mag aral syang mabuti at in the future eh i manage ang business namin. di naman araw araw sikat.







NADALE MO!

yung iba ambangis mag-lead at solos talagang umuusok, pero parang kulang eh. walang ika nga "substance" yung kanta. meron ding super-lupit sa drums dumodobolpeds pa. pero kung titignan mga tumatatak na kanta simula nung una is hindi naman talaga nirerequire ng ganung mga banatan. simon & garfunkel nga acoustic lang eh. pero yung quality ng kanta tignan mo naman: sounds of silence, america... classic talaga na hindi niluluma o pinaglilipasan ng panahon.

kaya uulitin ko: wala sa yaman yan o sa lupit mong tumugtog, nasa kanta yan.
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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #119 on: November 20, 2009, 02:18:13 AM »
ang opinyon ko lang eh talagang mas madali para sa mga mga may-kaya at may-"pondo" na pera para sumikat.  dahil sa kahit ano mang bansa eh kailangan ng pera sa marketing, maganda man or pangit yung kanta.  siguro kailangan ng mas malaking pera pag pangit yung kanta...eniweys.  ang kanta/banda eh product yan na kailangan ibenta at kumita.  kaya nga "investment" yang mga artists, the bigwigs are always looking for a return on their investment.  kaya talagang "karamihan" ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mga may kaya dahil kaya nila mag-invest ng sarili nilang pera at hindi kailangan lumapit sa mga labels (indie).

pero mahirap man o mayaman, ang pagtugtog at pagsulat ng kanta sana ay paraan upang "to rise above the occassion" ika nga.  playing music is a means to tell everyone that "i am more than how much is in my bank account or what brand of jeans i'm wearing or if i'm driving a german-made car or taking the jeepney."

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« Reply #120 on: November 20, 2009, 10:50:29 AM »
bahala na kung sikat sila pero di masyado magaling tumugtog, basta alam mong mas may ibubuga ka, may passion ka sa pagtugtog at patuloy sa pag progress ang skills.. unless gusto mo lang talaga 'sumikat'..

underground music rules!  :-)
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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #121 on: November 21, 2009, 12:34:15 AM »
hindi ako na niniwala na karamihan  :-D
un lang bitin ba? :-P
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« Reply #122 on: November 21, 2009, 03:54:04 AM »
hindi ako na niniwala na karamihan  :-D
un lang bitin ba? :-P

Bakit???

defend your post!!!
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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #123 on: November 23, 2009, 12:02:51 AM »
this is  a third world country and the industry couldnt really support musicians like day jobs do  lalo na pag nagsisimula ka palang.

filipinos are trapped in the sense of giving everything back to our parents....pag ka graduate mo susuportahan mo pamilya mo na parang obligasyon, filipino values yun e. ganun din ako halos kalahati ng sahod ko binibigay ko sa nanay ko. pero shempre ginagawa ko parin yung passion ko.

hindi ko naman hangad na maging super session bassist na kailangan zumifra ng kanta at mag showband, (kanya kanyang trip yan e) iba ang trip ko e. ang trip ko yung original compositions.

maraming sacrifices talaga pag musician ka sa pinas lalo na pag originals ang tugtugan nyo. my shift is 12mid-12nn video edit..so right after 9p-12md na tugtugan dumidiretso ako sa opisina. shempre medyo sabay nako nun diba? but that is my sacrifice. kung mayaman lng ako edi di nako nag trabaho para maka rak out all night.

true karamihan ng mayaman ang sumisikat kasi me panahon silang nalalaan to have that staying power sa industriya. pero we must not blame them. unfair yun

what are the reasons you say? puro chores? kailangan ng pera? obligasyon sa magulang? totoo mahirap. pero its all up to you. magsikap ka. madaming sakripisyo. and walang kinalaman ang magandang gamit sa pagsikat.

and being "sikat" doesnt mean the end of poverty. maraming sikat na banda may day jobs. calde bassist of chicosci works for marketing in ABS CBN...Jal bassist of Sugarfree, professor yun e...Allen Umali bassist ng Chilitees works as a sound engineer at TRACKS waking up 7am every morning to complete an 8 hour shift, selling tshirts and albums of his indipendent projects, commute lang a. may mga pinalad lng talaga like nathan of bamboo...dunno if that guy ever had a day job his entire life, pero me business sya.

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Re: bakit karamihan ng mga sikat na banda ay galing sa mayayaman na pamilya?
« Reply #124 on: November 23, 2009, 12:07:53 AM »
bakit yung mga nasa states may mga banda dun na after ng fame at peak nila sa industry eh makikita mo nasa isang maliit na bahay lang somewhere.
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