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Title: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Agent_So on March 14, 2006, 10:28:02 PM

mga dudes... anu ba effective cleaner for rust, corrosion sa chrome ng drumset?? wd-40 ba effective sa mga kalawang??? thanks

Title: alternative to wd-40
Post by: kyxz on April 19, 2006, 08:38:23 PM

bro..try turko rust conveter available at sm hardwares, lightly moisten the brown rust spots using cotton buds, after awhile the rust converts into whitish oxide and rub with wd40 or any oil.
hope this helps..works on my guitars

Title: Drum Chrome Cleaning
Post by: starfugger on April 23, 2006, 08:00:02 AM

try Wipe Out. i have a premier drumset too and since the hardware is made of good quality stainless steel, kahit i-wipe out ko lang yung konting build up ng rust madaling matanggal. babad mo lang sa wipe out yung rust for a minute, then lightly scratch out the rust. i use the other end of a spoon or fork, wrapped in an old rag. matrabaho, but it gets the job done.

Title: Stucked Drumhead
Post by: marko21 on August 23, 2006, 09:53:30 PM

Kasi kanina, kinalas ko ung rim ng 12" tom tapos pagka-tanggal ko nung rim, sumama yung drumhead na nakadikit sa rim. Hindi ko matanggal yung drumhead. Ano bang gagawin kapag nangyari to?

Title: Re: Stucked Drumhead
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 23, 2006, 10:40:29 PM

Quote from: marko21

Kasi kanina, kinalas ko ung rim ng 12" tom tapos pagka-tanggal ko nung rim, sumama yung drumhead na nakadikit sa rim. Hindi ko matanggal yung drumhead. Ano bang gagawin kapag nangyari to?

sir linawin ko lang yung question mo. sumama yung drum head o hindi sumama? thanks

Title: Stucked Drumhead
Post by: autoexec on August 23, 2006, 10:45:22 PM

baka nung tinanggal nya yung rim sumama yung head. hahaha lagyan mong thinner. joke

Title: Re: Stucked Drumhead
Post by: bam0120 on August 23, 2006, 10:48:02 PM

Quote from: jun_BALARAW

Quote from: marko21
Kasi kanina, kinalas ko ung rim ng 12" tom tapos pagka-tanggal ko nung rim, sumama yung drumhead na nakadikit sa rim. Hindi ko matanggal yung drumhead. Ano bang gagawin kapag nangyari to?

sir linawin ko lang yung question mo. sumama yung drum head o hindi sumama? thanks

nung tinanggal nya yung rim ng toms nya, sumama yung drumhead dun sa rim.. hindi natanggal yung drumhead sa rim.. kaya sumama.

hahaha

ayun..

sige game.. ginagawa ko dyan... tinatry ko syang itulak dun sa gitna mismo ng skin.. pero dahan dahan lang ah.. baka mapunit o ma stretch yan... malakeng portion ang itulak mo.. kasi baka kasi mapunet o mabutas..

=)

Title: Stucked Drumhead
Post by: marko21 on August 24, 2006, 12:02:44 AM

okay. try ko. thanks. baka kasi ang higpit ng lagay ko. :P

Title: Re: Stucked Drumhead
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 24, 2006, 12:11:57 AM

Quote from: bam0120

Quote from: jun_BALARAW
Quote from: marko21
Kasi kanina, kinalas ko ung rim ng 12" tom tapos pagka-tanggal ko nung rim, sumama yung drumhead na nakadikit sa rim. Hindi ko matanggal yung drumhead. Ano bang gagawin kapag nangyari to?

sir linawin ko lang yung question mo. sumama yung drum head o hindi sumama? thanks

nung tinanggal nya yung rim ng toms nya, sumama yung drumhead dun sa rim.. hindi natanggal yung drumhead sa rim.. kaya sumama.

hahaha

ayun..

sige game.. ginagawa ko dyan... tinatry ko syang itulak dun sa gitna mismo ng skin.. pero dahan dahan lang ah.. baka mapunit o ma stretch yan... malakeng portion ang itulak mo.. kasi baka kasi mapunet o mabutas..

=)

ayus.. hehe kulang yata pagkaka type niya hehehe

Title: Stucked Drumhead
Post by: pmack on August 24, 2006, 04:08:31 AM

nangyari na yan sa akin.
try mi yung sinabi ni bam.
or kung nag-aalangan ka kasi baka mapunit, try to pry yung mismong gilid ng rim sa metal part nung drumhead (yung sa side ng drumhead)

Title: Stucked Drumhead
Post by: drumster on August 24, 2006, 04:21:43 AM

That's what I notice with some entry-level drumkits... It's either their drums' rims are oblong-ed or undersized. So if one mounts a quality drumhead like Remo or Evans, it's always a snug fit. Same goes for some entry-level drum shells...

Title: Stucked Drumhead
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 24, 2006, 04:18:53 PM

para ka lang nagbubukas ng lata ng soft drinks niyan!!!

cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: pinoymusika on August 28, 2006, 01:12:27 AM

I've seen a few of the threads by guys who have restored old drums and would like to get some pointers... An old beat up 3 x 13 Tama picollo snare came my way and I'd like to get in playing condition. Where to start?

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: drumster on August 28, 2006, 03:42:48 AM

Hello Mr. Admin!

Well, we can start by posting some photos of your Tama piccolo drum. Let us know also about the condition of the drum, and if there are any broken/defective/tarnished parts.

I've read some articles in my old Modern Drummer magazines about drum restoration. I'll try to look for that and review it...

8)

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: bangbus on August 28, 2006, 04:57:59 AM

hmmm though i havent seen its condition yet, I would say a good starting point is to take it apart, then clean each one. as in remove the lugs as well.

if it's made of steel truevalue or DiY or handyman is always there to supply chrome,steal cleaning aids. and an old toothbrush will come in handy with this one.

If it's made of wood, then polishing the surface would be ideal. but if it's got a few knicks and knacks, maybe you could take it to a wood shop and have it re-laquered. you would want to probably change the heads if its beaten down already and maybe the snare as well if its overly corroded.

If its made of steel or bronze or copper or alluminum and say its super corroded (for steel) or dirtied beyond cleaning or has got a few dents, take it to a car shop and have it painted to your desired color, and maybe while you're at the paint thing, how about finding an airbrush artist, and have him paint your design onto it. you can also paint the hardware like the hoops, lugs if you want.

oh and peeves24 does drum customisation, to be specific he makes drums at home so maybe getting in touch with him would be enlightening as well in this undertaking.

hope this helps. thanks. all the best in restoring it. :)

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: pinoymusika on September 04, 2006, 04:18:30 AM

Ok I finally got a chance to shoot some photos of the snare:

(http://jimayson.com/banners/snare/1.jpg)

(http://jimayson.com/banners/snare/2.jpg)

(http://jimayson.com/banners/snare/3.jpg)

(http://jimayson.com/banners/snare/4.jpg)

(http://jimayson.com/banners/snare/5.jpg)

(http://jimayson.com/banners/snare/6.jpg)

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: peeves24 on September 04, 2006, 08:01:35 AM

coke will do wonders on that :D

disassemble everything down to the lugs. get a basin and soak it in 6 liters of coke, wait and rinse

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: pinoymusika on September 04, 2006, 09:10:32 AM

Coke huh? Better Google that cleaning method :) That's it? - just a soak, no brushing?

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: peeves24 on September 04, 2006, 09:18:36 AM

yup :D

rinse with soap and water, dry with cloth

masarap din yung coke na pinagbabaran :lol:

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: pinoymusika on September 04, 2006, 11:54:16 AM

bosing, how long do you soak the stuff in the Coke? :?:

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: peeves24 on September 04, 2006, 12:04:19 PM

minutes only, check nyo na lang kung natangal na yung libag. kusang matatanggal yun

just check out this thread by sandy, mas malibag pa yung lugs nya :D

http://www.yupangco.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=2662&highlight=coke+cleaning

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: panterica on September 04, 2006, 01:59:39 PM

effective yang coke hehehe, already tried that sir jim. effective din panlinis ng toilet bowls, magastos nga lang, pero it does the job.

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: in_the_tent on September 04, 2006, 02:33:42 PM

eh kung pepsi? :x d kaya rc para mas mura.. :D

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: inigo on September 04, 2006, 04:07:15 PM

Wag Coke... kasi lalanggamin (hehe).

Pro-Mark Groove Juice works well with hardware. As in tanggal in a minute. Spray, let sit for a minute, then wipe with a rag.

I think Audiophile has some Groove Juice for a bit over 400 pesos.

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: peeves24 on September 04, 2006, 04:26:55 PM

sir pinoymusika, nabili mo ba kay ian yung snare? looks familiar kasi e

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: pinoymusika on September 05, 2006, 11:48:37 AM

Peeves, the snare was a gift from this cool guy on the Pinoydrums list, Gerry Socco. Nag EB kami sa San Francisco when I was last there last and he gave the snare as a parting gift (he just pulled it out of his garage - I think he has about 4 or 5 kits all packed up there! Also snares, pedals, cymbals etc just stacked up there)

It's a compact little snare that sounds pretty good, nice crack to it. Medyo weird lang tignan if playing kasi nga ang liit. Nice to bring around "just in case" because its so portable.

Inigo might have a point about Coke and ants. Maraming langgam sa amin so I can just imagine them going crazy over all that Coke. Pwede bang gamitin yung Coke Light? It's sugar free, so ants don't care for it. (yung nga lang mas mahal ang Coke Light, argggh. Pepsi Max? Hmm.)

I'll also check out that Pro Mark cleaning thing. Thanks guys!!

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: peeves24 on September 05, 2006, 12:14:10 PM

coke light wont work, its not acidic enough as the regular one

soap and water will take care of the ants. wala pa naman nilanggam sa mga drums ko so far :oops:

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: panterica on September 05, 2006, 12:44:31 PM

before, i use pledge.

now, i use coke. heheheh. after mo ibabad yung metal parts sa coke, rinse it with soap and water. coke is very good for restoration.

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: fbryank on September 09, 2006, 12:32:55 PM

I have a pearl export series and its rusting already kasi nabili ko siya second hand.

Are there any places that offer that service? Nakakatamad kasi tanggalin lahat ng kalawang! naawa rin ako sa drum set ko! hahaha

If anyone has ideas please help me out!!!

Thanks!

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: jeva on September 09, 2006, 01:01:15 PM

wE SHARE THE SAME PROBLEM.
pero ako gagawin ko, since nandito p sya sa akin, i'l paint it (lugs, rims, spurs) with a silver color, tpos oven bake ko.... hehehe.. as far as i see it kc ung rims other than the snare hind mababakbak ang pant, kc wl nmang rimshot for toms di ba?

gudluck...

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: marko21 on September 09, 2006, 05:52:34 PM

try no ung DW-40...

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: drummerboy827 on September 09, 2006, 10:26:01 PM

its like asking how to stop the production of saliva..

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: pmack on September 09, 2006, 10:31:40 PM

Quote from: jeva

kc wl nmang rimshot for toms di ba?

erm, meron po yata.
kasi ako nagririmshot sa toms..
hehehehe
naka-anggle yung tons mo na sakto sa angle ng arms ko para sakto rimshot lagi....
sarap sa tenga eh...

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: intake on September 09, 2006, 10:50:17 PM

pwede mag rimshot kahit sa toms :)
kaya yung mga tom ko hindi naka angle ng sobrang nakaharap sakin..hindi rin siya flat..yung tama lang

marko...WD-40 ata yun hehe

Title: Re: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: crazy_beautiful on September 09, 2006, 11:57:12 PM

Quote from: fbryank

I have a pearl export series and its rusting already kasi nabili ko siya second hand.

Are there any places that offer that service? Nakakatamad kasi tanggalin lahat ng kalawang! naawa rin ako sa drum set ko! hahaha

If anyone has ideas please help me out!!!

Thanks!

may pic ka ng kit mo? patingin.. :) ako rin ung kit ko pearl export series. pero hindi ung 2000-present na version. 1998 ata eh., mejo may rust na ung stands pero maganda pa naman ung hardware un nga lng may mga rust un chrome. ginawa ko dahil excited ako ng binili ko xa, kinalas ko lahat pati lugs basta lahat ng may rust na pwede malinis pinagtatanggal ko.. pinakita sakin ng kuya ko kung pano matanggal ung rust. turko ata name ng remover ng rust e., kaya lng dpat nkagloves tpos brush pangkiskis sa rust. nakakapagod nga lang maglinis.. 3 araw ako bago natapos linisin un kit. pero ok naman malinis na xa ngayon.. parang bago.. hehe.. :)

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: autoexec on September 10, 2006, 04:05:23 AM

WD-40

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: marko21 on September 10, 2006, 12:51:51 PM

Quote from: intake

marko...WD-40 ata yun hehe

hehe oo nga.. mali ako..

WD-40 tapos i rub mo lang sa rag

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 10, 2006, 02:02:49 PM

try mo MC cleaner. ok din yan. yan gamit ko. then sa kalawang try mo sand paper. yung mejo manipis para hindi magasgas ang bakal..

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: inigo on September 10, 2006, 02:45:12 PM

Pro-Mark Groove Juice. Tanggal ang rust at grime.

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: marko21 on September 10, 2006, 03:24:18 PM

Quote from: jun_BALARAW

try mo MC cleaner. ok din yan. yan gamit ko. then sa kalawang try mo sand paper. yung mejo manipis para hindi magasgas ang bakal..

yan ba ung parang nasa can?

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: blaupunkt08 on September 10, 2006, 03:28:26 PM

try nyo po yung pinaka manipis na pang liha..
tapos lagyan mo ng shampoo..
medyo effective sya pero medyo mahirap..

yun po kasi ginawa ko..
kumintab naman ung mga stand saka ung mga rims ng kit ko..

try mo lng po..

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: drummer_boy17 on September 10, 2006, 04:53:28 PM

Quote from: pmack

Quote from: jeva
kc wl nmang rimshot for toms di ba?

erm, meron po yata.
kasi ako nagririmshot sa toms..
hehehehe
naka-anggle yung tons mo na sakto sa angle ng arms ko para sakto rimshot lagi....
sarap sa tenga eh...

nice... masubukan nga.. hehe

Title: Does anyone know how to take the rust off your drum set?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 11, 2006, 10:54:24 AM

Quote from: marko21

Quote from: jun_BALARAW
try mo MC cleaner. ok din yan. yan gamit ko. then sa kalawang try mo sand paper. yung mejo manipis para hindi magasgas ang bakal..
yan ba ung parang nasa can?

yes nasa can. puti ang kulay niya sa loob

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: legato on September 23, 2006, 08:40:55 PM

San kaya pedeng magpalinis ng drum kit? Including all the hardware.

Medyo may mga kalawang na yung metal hardware. Sinubukan kong linisin ng wd40 medyo ok naman kaso medyo mahirap din at matagal. Inisip ko palinis na lang. San meron?

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: marko21 on September 23, 2006, 08:55:15 PM

baka masira pag sa iba mo pinagawa :lol:

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: pmack on September 23, 2006, 09:29:46 PM

oo.
either ipalinis mo sa marunong talaga al may kaalaman sa drums or ikaw na lang mismo.
konting tyaga lang and konting pawis.
heheheh

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: drumster on September 23, 2006, 10:09:50 PM

Yeah... Why not clean it yourself? Anyway, it's labor of love. That's how I feel when I clean and do maintenance on my drum gear. There's this sense of pride and joy whenever I maintain, clean & polish my stuff.

Not unless it's in a seriously bad condition. Kapag di malalim ang kalawang sa metal parts, try to oil it and sand it gently with fine-grade sandpaper.

If you want your hardware refinished, you can have it re-plated or powder-coated. Guys like Paolo (peeves24) have contacts with these services.

You can browse this thread. There's a discussion somewhere about powder-coating.

Let's See Those Sets! ---- http://talk.philmusic.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=17360
8)

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: peeves24 on September 23, 2006, 10:22:11 PM

gandang sideline to a!

kung masipag lang sana ko...

Title: Re: San pede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: pmack on September 24, 2006, 08:45:11 AM

Quote from: legato

San kaya pedeng magpalinis ng drum kit? Including all the hardware.

Medyo may mga kalawang na yung metal hardware. Sinubukan kong linisin ng wd40 medyo ok naman kaso medyo mahirap din at matagal. Inisip ko palinis na lang. San meron?

do you have pics of your kit that you wanna have cleaned?
baka pwede ka mag-post para pag may nakakita at kaya nila linisin, ayun, may taga-linis ka na.

Title: Re: San pede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: legato on September 24, 2006, 10:11:57 PM

Quote from: pmack

Quote from: legato
San kaya pedeng magpalinis ng drum kit? Including all the hardware.

Medyo may mga kalawang na yung metal hardware. Sinubukan kong linisin ng wd40 medyo ok naman kaso medyo mahirap din at matagal. Inisip ko palinis na lang. San meron?

do you have pics of your kit that you wanna have cleaned?
baka pwede ka mag-post para pag may nakakita at kaya nila linisin, ayun, may taga-linis ka na.

Cge. It's a Pearl Rhythm Traveller. Medyo napabayaan sa bodega and di nalaro, ngayon ko lang uli napansin nung lumipat bahay.

Eto yung medyo malinis na. Although I think it could still be better.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/legato777/drumrust/107_0767.jpg)

Eto yun hindi pa nalinisan

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/legato777/drumrust/107_0766.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/legato777/drumrust/107_0765.jpg)

Any takers? :)

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 25, 2006, 12:21:33 AM

whoa! :shock: mudugo-dugong laban yan ah.. :D

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: Diadem on September 25, 2006, 12:36:19 AM

:shock: oh MY GOD!!!! :shock:

ser better buy new parts!

its just too.... (you know what i mean)

mero lhat mga parts nyan sa perfect pitch/yupangco..

roughly mga 5k gastos or more :lol:

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: legato on September 25, 2006, 01:09:14 AM

Quote from: Diadem

:shock: oh MY GOD!!!! :shock:

ser better buy new parts!

its just too.... (you know what i mean)

mero lhat mga parts nyan sa perfect pitch/yupangco..

roughly mga 5k gastos or more :lol:

:)

Anong breakdown nung 5k kaya? Thanks.

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: Diadem on September 25, 2006, 01:17:14 AM

1.4k boom arm sa toms...

rims and all tom holders 700php

mga ganun... rims not sure kung magkano less 500 ata

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 25, 2006, 05:20:30 AM

@diadem..

5k bro i think is too little..more like he will be spending enough to buy a new kit if he wants those things in new condition.. :?

better salvage it and clean what you can..sayang lang kasi its either that or just purchase new pieces that will set you back BIGTIME!!! :shock:

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: Diadem on September 25, 2006, 09:13:44 AM

oo nga pla...

well ung mga stands... i think bili nlng ng bago and for the snare... wag naman lhat try to salvage ung mga iba for the meantime...

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: drumster on September 25, 2006, 10:09:51 AM

Grabe malalim na nga! Parang nag-survive sa bagyo... Pero masarap i-restore ito.

If I were the owner of that kit, I'll have the metal parts powder-coated. It would look more distinct and customized. And just like what guys are saying here in this forum, powder coating services aren't too expensive.

But I'll be replacing the tension rods and some of the hardware - the pedals, in particular.

8)

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on September 25, 2006, 10:14:11 AM

OT: waw ang babaw ng bass... nu tunog nyan?
coke cleaning kaya pa kaya? hehhe

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: peeves24 on September 25, 2006, 10:25:21 AM

will you consider selling it?

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: drummer_boy17 on September 25, 2006, 08:47:18 PM

Dapat sa marunong talaga ipalinis...

nice thread!.. :D

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: Diadem on September 25, 2006, 08:47:33 PM

change the rim of the snare...
change the hats
change the pedals

try to recover the tom holders and the other stands...

definitly change the tension cap on the bass drum...

at lest the tension cases are good...

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: marko21 on September 25, 2006, 08:58:16 PM

ang sarap ng pakiramdam kapag napalinis at napaganda yan :D

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 26, 2006, 02:39:23 AM

tama..ang sarap sarap talaga pag nalinis ito :D

keep us updated :wink:

Title: Saan pwede magpalinis ng drumkit?
Post by: legato on September 26, 2006, 12:48:37 PM

Thank you all for your comments and suggestions!!!

Pumunta ako sa Perfect Pitch and yun medyo mura lang na part e yung mga tension rods. Mahal na yun ibang parts, the exact same hi-hat stand costs more than 3K kaya medyo napaisip ako. Gusto ko nga sana palitan. About 25K daw pala tong drumset na to. Yikes! Looks like ako na nga lang maglilinis or iattempt ko muna.

Punta na lang ako sa Ace Hardware and bumili ng mga pinong liha, pamunas, yun pantangal ng rust na kinakabit sa drill, etc. Anyway, i'll know this weekend kung malilinis ko o hinde.

I'll try to post before and after pics.

Title: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: zound_tech on September 26, 2006, 09:06:51 PM

sir, gumana ba yung coke? parehas kc tyo ng snare eh, un nga lng de-dose ung akin, steel dn xa, mejo kinakalawang na,,

Title: Ball Tom Mount
Post by: jckazs on November 05, 2006, 03:12:05 PM

Meron bang way para mapatagal yung ball ng mga tom mount? me mga nasubukan kasi ako sa mga rehearsal studio na hindi na kumakapit yung ball kahit sobrang sikip na yung screw. cause ba to ng "wear and tear" o sira lang siguro yung nagamit? :mrgreen:
salamat sirs

Title: Re: Ball Tom Mount
Post by: pmack on November 05, 2006, 03:38:36 PM

wear and tear yan.
ganyan talaga pag medyo "low" ang quality ng mga bakal na ginamit.

para mapatagal yung life ng tom mount, dont over-tighten it. and siguro paminsan-minsan lagyan mo ng konting oil yung mga moving parts para hindi magkarron ng grabeng metal to metal corrossion.

Title: Re: Ball Tom Mount
Post by: jckazs on November 05, 2006, 08:53:58 PM

Salamat sir. subukan ko yan. parang mas ok nga yung old school na tom holder...similar dun sa mga pearl drums. mas matibay. kaya lang mahirap i adjust at limited yung angles. sana tumugal ball tom mount ko

Title: Re: Ball Tom Mount
Post by: pmack on November 05, 2006, 09:51:59 PM

alagaan mo lang and make sure na hindi mababasa para hindi mangalawang. like all material things, tatagal yan basta maalaga ka lang.

Title: Need Help - Re: Equipment Care and Storage Precautions
Post by: jckazs on November 12, 2006, 11:20:34 PM

question lang. plano kasi namin lagay yung gamit namin sa room na narent namin sa isang industrial area sa paranaque. sa pasig pa ko so iiwan lang namin yung gamit dun. baka twice a week lang namin mabisita so walang magmemaintain. ano ba kailangan gawin para hindi masira yung gamit? naisip ko lang kasi takpan lang ng kumot para hindi masyado magaccumulate ng dust. wala na kasi ako maisip na iba. just want to make sure. kailangan ba i-disassemble pa o puede iwan na nakakabit? ok lang ba iwan cymbals? ok lang naman iuwi pero syempre mabigat din yun...mahirap bitbitin 8-) what should i watch out for sa room na ire-rent? ano mga kailangan ilagay para hindi masira yung gamit? need your help. nakakahinayang kasi kung masisira lang yung gamit. thanks

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Title: Re: Need Help
Post by: MikEh on November 12, 2006, 11:24:12 PM

mas nakaka hinayang pag nawala yung gamit. make sure na secure ung area and oks ung locks ng room.

Title: Re: Need Help
Post by: jckazs on November 12, 2006, 11:30:08 PM

salamat sir. isa din yun. masmasakit pagdating mo wala na yung gamit. balak namin bigyan ng konti yung guard ng katabing establishment para mabantayan. kinakabahan lang ako baka kasi masira. last week lang, nagasgas ko accidentally. nanghina ako hehe

Title: Re: Need Help - Re: Equipment Care and Storage Precautions
Post by: jckazs on November 12, 2006, 11:34:01 PM

Oooops...Sorry for not being specific and thanks for modifying the subject 8-)

Title: Re: Need Help - Re: Equipment Care and Storage Precautions
Post by: drumster on November 12, 2006, 11:39:53 PM

No prob, bro!

As long as your drum equipment are not set up in a room with high levels of temperature and humidity, your gear will be just fine. Make sure that it's not exposed to direct sunlight. Covering the equipment with cloth is good, so that it wouldn't gather any dirt and dust.

As for the cymbals, I suggest that you store them on a cymbal bag/case when not in use.

8-)

Title: Re: Need Help - Re: Equipment Care and Storage Precautions
Post by: bangbus on November 13, 2006, 12:05:04 AM

try gettin some drum, cymbal, hardware bags...blankets will only protect it from dust, pero yung corrossion or oxidation ata as they call it (stage before rust, yung di na shiny)will still set in...i have experienced this kasi i used to always leave my kit with blanket cover naka-display sa room ko, whenever i leave town, tapos when i get back after a few months wala ngang dust pero yung hardware hoops, lugs, stands medyo naging malabo yung finish so kailangan pa-linis again, engineers have told me that this happens to metal whenever its exposed to varying degrees of temperatures specially in conditions where patay sindi ang aircon kasi sa moist sa humid atmosphere natin. so what i do so that i wont have to clean it each time i get back is i place the hardwares in old luggages/maletas, tapos yung drums inside different sizes of boxes, tapos yung cymbals inside cymbal bags shempre. yung cymbal bags shempre have to be padded, tapos i pad drums and hardwares with newspapers (good insulator for moisture!) within the boxes and maletas.

i dont know if this sounds convenient for you pero it works for me kasi i leave my kit just lyin around on months on end whenever im out of town. sayang oras ko and money if pag uwi ko kailangan ko pa linisin yung kit. plus i like the feeling of opening boxes to reveal the toy i have been longin for while away.

:mrgreen:

Title: Re: Need Help - Re: Equipment Care and Storage Precautions
Post by: jckazs on November 13, 2006, 03:31:10 AM

Thanks for your posts! wala pa naman plan magistall ng aircon kaya hindi nman grabe yung temp changes. siguro yung summer heat lang yung puede iconsider. pero well ventilated naman yung room kaya hindi siguro aabot sa point na magcorrode yung hardware o magwarp yung shells. actually, my orig plan was to put my kit by the window para presko hehe pero hindi na lang pala...papawis na lang kesa masira :evil: nagcanvas na ko ng drum bag na set. plan to buy within the week para pagtuloy na talaga yung studio, puede itransport ng maaayos. nakakita ako sa audiophile. gator yung brand around 3.5 k yung price - ok na ba to? siguro what i'll do is put the rack / floor tom and snare sa case, tapos yung bass, bka takpan ko n lang ng makapal ng kumot. as for the hardware, baka maleta na lang din. i really do't mind them getting scratches...wag lang kalawangin. yung cymbals, baka iuwi ko na lang. in case lumabo yung hardware, ok lang ba gamitan ng wipe out? salamat ulit...big help!

Title: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: theryman on November 14, 2006, 01:13:08 PM

Hi All,

I wish to restore my drums, specifically remove the rust on the metal parts.
That goes for the snare, screws, stands, etc..

Would anyone have a good recommendation on how to remove this properly?
If I can do this myself, what should I buy or use? And if there's an establishment who does this, whats the name, where and would you know how much?

Last resort would be replacing all the metal parts. Any place to get all these? My drum kit is the old Pearl export series.

Would appreciate to hear from anyone who could help.

Many Thanks!

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: inigo on November 14, 2006, 01:28:12 PM

Pro Mark Groove Juice can remove rust fast. Pati yung Coke method ni peevees (babad sa Coke ang hardware, brush in the babad solution, then banlaw with water... I'd recommend applying WD40 after all these).

Pero when you remove rust in hardware, you'll probably see that the chrome is also gone, and you'll be left with black patches where rust used to be.

Maybe you can have it re-chromed in metal working shops?

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: Dheniz on November 15, 2006, 01:45:55 AM

Ako Papel de liha all the way then wd40,sakit na nga ng mga daliri ko sa kakaliha eh ang rami kasing kinalawang,napabayaan kasi ng matagal,pero nakakatanggal pagod kapag nakita mo nang maganda ulit ang mga parts ng drums mo.

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: starfugger on November 15, 2006, 12:48:07 PM

in mild cases of rusting, i spread "wipe out" all over the hoops, then painstakingly and carefully rub the rust away using the tip of a screw driver wrapped in 1 or 2 layers of cloth. so far so good.

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: theryman on November 15, 2006, 02:30:40 PM

Thanks guys! keep em coming! :-)

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: johanncalabig on November 23, 2006, 09:13:12 AM

Coke babad and brush!!! Kahit sa mountain bike ko yun ang recommended ng pro's! Then lubricant like wd40 of course.

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: killuaxp on November 23, 2006, 11:15:19 AM

aba ngayon ko lang nalaman na nakakatanggal pala ng kalawang ang coke! hindi na ako iinom niyan! hihi! :lol:

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: waybine on November 23, 2006, 04:56:59 PM

WD 40 :-D

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: rasta_gopz on November 23, 2006, 07:44:11 PM

Quote from: waybine on November 23, 2006, 04:56:59 PM

WD 40 :-D

yes WD 40 i also use it for my kit, kahit sa guitara ko i use it to clean my pick ups to keep it rust free oks na oks to!

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: panterica on November 25, 2006, 12:49:01 AM

use rust-converters, pwede din wd40.

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: killuaxp on November 25, 2006, 06:22:28 AM

mga master, yung sa cymbals ayaw pa din matangal fingerprints gumamit na ko ng kerosene eh. ano pa ba pwede?

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: Gep on November 27, 2006, 10:19:53 AM

Quote from: killuaxp on November 25, 2006, 06:22:28 AM

mga master, yung sa cymbals ayaw pa din matangal fingerprints gumamit na ko ng kerosene eh. ano pa ba pwede?

Ba't ganon? Sakin ang kintab agad nung na-wipe off ka na yung kerosene..

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: kibohead on November 28, 2006, 07:30:24 PM

tama yung COKE...and Kerosene.

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: rasta_gopz on November 30, 2006, 12:09:20 AM

try mo yung GLO Metal Polish kaso pang industrial yun pa konti konting apply lang muna sa simula to make sure na d madamage yung finish

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: killuaxp on November 30, 2006, 03:02:52 AM

db abrasive yung glo? :lol:

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 30, 2006, 07:53:29 AM

nako po.. wag na po gagamit ng GLO please

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: waybine on November 30, 2006, 07:56:45 AM

Quote from: jun_BALARAW on November 30, 2006, 07:53:29 AM

nako po.. wag na po gagamit ng GLO please

Tsaka yung MC metal polish. Wala din kwenta ... :-D

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 30, 2006, 08:02:02 AM

Quote from: waybine on November 30, 2006, 07:56:45 AM

Quote from: jun_BALARAW on November 30, 2006, 07:53:29 AM
nako po.. wag na po gagamit ng GLO please

Tsaka yung MC metal polish. Wala din kwenta ... :-D

hahaha yung MC na yan binura ang logo ng new sabian aax ko..
bad trip na bad trip ako! bwiset.

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: killuaxp on November 30, 2006, 08:04:19 AM

magkakano yung mga cymbal cleaners? tsaka anong brand recommend niyo? :?

Title: Re: Help! Kontra-kalawang
Post by: l_e_i_g_h on December 06, 2006, 03:44:41 PM

Panalo din suka! :mrgreen:

uy suka na nabibili sa tindahan ah!!! Hindi yung Sinuka na pagkain. :-)

Title: shell polish
Post by: Boosted on December 30, 2006, 03:02:49 AM

mga idol, ask ko lang ano the best na polish ng shells? and san makakabili? ayaw po kasi gumana ng search. pasensha na :) thanks in advance

Title: Re: shell polish
Post by: drumster on January 04, 2007, 05:08:07 AM

For lacquered wood shells, a good furniture polish can do. There are wood drums with matte and oil-stained finishes, and I think there's a special polishing/cleaning agent for these drums with more delicate finishes. Or just to be safe, just wipe the drums periodically with a nice, clean, non-abrasive cotton cloth.

I also read and heard that polishes for other wooden musical instruments (electric guitars, for example) can work well for wood-shelled drums.

There are a number of commercially-available drum shell polishes out in the market, but I don't think there are any available locally.

Title: Re: shell polish
Post by: peeves24 on January 04, 2007, 10:23:03 AM

meguiar's cleaner wax. liquid type sya, gamit ko sa kotse. mabango pa parang sago :-D yummy

Title: Re: shell polish
Post by: Bammbamm on January 06, 2007, 01:47:56 PM

...hindi ba makakasira sa finish ng hardware yung mga household wood polish?

Title: Re: shell polish
Post by: Boosted on January 08, 2007, 09:53:22 AM

Quote from: peeves24 on January 04, 2007, 10:23:03 AM

meguiar's cleaner wax. liquid type sya, gamit ko sa kotse. mabango pa parang sago :-D yummy

tinry ko na mothers, megs nxt pati, cleaner wax.. ala nangyari.. EX ung set ko ndi daw pala ito laquered? if so pano ko kaya sha papakintabin? thanks mga idol :)

Title: maintenance, repair ect.
Post by: y2jae21 on April 04, 2007, 09:57:15 PM

pano ba maiiwasan yung hardware na makalawang? saka pag yung drums, yung body mismo hindi yung head nagkadent maaayos pa ba yun?

Title: Re: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: drummerboy827 on April 06, 2007, 10:59:46 AM

Quote from: peeves24 on September 04, 2006, 08:01:35 AM

coke will do wonders on that :D

disassemble everything down to the lugs. get a basin and soak it in 6 liters of coke, wait and rinse

D kaya sayang yan 6 LITERS??!!

Title: Re: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: Gep on April 10, 2007, 12:50:00 AM

Quote from: drummerboy827 on April 06, 2007, 10:59:46 AM

D kaya sayang yan 6 LITERS??!!

Ikaw bahala.
Siguro masarap ang coke na may halong kalawang. :-D

Title: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: fouljan on April 21, 2007, 11:23:40 PM

mga sir,, share ku lang,, effective hardware cleaner.. IMO gudbye na sa mahal na "coke" as cleaner.. familiar ba kau sa "oxalic" or "oxallic"? ito ung mga naka pack na nabibili sa mga sari-sari store.. 2pesos per pack.. naka hilera sya sa mga tawas, tina at chlorine.. mura lang sya pero sobrang effective..

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1704.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1706.jpg)

mix mo lang sya sa water.. sakin sa gnito kalaking container, 10packs nilagay ku..

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1697.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1696.jpg)

eto ung hardware (stands) ku before,, nabili ku lang din d2 sa isang forumer.. (thnx to sir wilbert)

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1709.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1700.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1699.jpg)

tapos,, babad mo lang sa solution ng 4-6hours.. babad lang,, babad lang,, babad lang.........

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1697.jpg)

tapos ule,,, punasan mna sya ng tuyong basahan,, di mna kaylangan ng soap and water,,, basta i dry mna sya using dry cloth.... etu na ung nangyari...

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1783.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1766.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1708.jpg)

pogi na uli sla.... sana nakatulong..... aus!!!

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: prjm14 on April 22, 2007, 12:57:17 AM

nice.. mukhang shabu.. heheh

chong nu tawag jan? mukhang ndi common sa mga suking tindahan e.. :-P

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: fouljan on April 22, 2007, 01:04:21 AM

Quote from: prjm14 on April 22, 2007, 12:57:17 AM

nice.. mukhang shabu.. heheh

chong nu tawag jan? mukhang ndi common sa mga suking tindahan e.. :-P

"oxalic".... merun un... gngamit yan sa panlaba... parang pambabad ata,,, hehe..

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: prjm14 on April 22, 2007, 01:06:41 AM

cge nga, matry ko sa mga rims.. heheh before ko mapapowder coat.. :-D

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: fouljan on April 22, 2007, 01:09:21 AM

Quote from: prjm14 on April 22, 2007, 01:06:41 AM

cge nga, matry ko sa mga rims.. heheh before ko mapapowder coat.. :-D

aus tu.. gud luck.... :-D

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: prjm14 on April 22, 2007, 01:10:34 AM

ang cool nga e.. dos lang isang pack.. hehe..

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: akosichok on April 22, 2007, 01:11:17 AM

ok 'to ah.

ngayon ko lng narinig to :-D

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: matteotanga on April 22, 2007, 01:18:18 AM

ayos to!!!! efective sa pito pito!!! konting kus kus tapos!!!!!
pag may natira pwede kapa mag babad ng labahen!!!!!
o kaya pag wala kayo makita sa sari sari store bili kayo kay fouljohn! sya ang distributor nyan! :-D

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: fouljan on April 22, 2007, 01:22:04 AM

aus nga e... hehe.. lam nyo bang ermats ku pa ngsabi skin nto..?!! nkita nya kc ku ngkakandahirap sa pagkuskus nung mga stands.. cnubukan ku sabunin sabay kuskus ng scotch brite,, hindi prin maalis ung mga "tiny" kalawang.. last resort kna sana ung "coke" e... sabay snabihan aku ni ermats na oxalic nga daw panlinis dun... e marami kmi nun e.. tambak d2 un... snubukan ku... aun... aus na aus...hehe.....salamat ke ermats... cgurado ku,, marami mtutulungan "tip" ni ermats...hehe.. :-D :-D :-D

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: fouljan on April 22, 2007, 01:24:59 AM

Quote from: matteotanga on April 22, 2007, 01:18:18 AM

ayos to!!!! efective sa pito pito!!! konting kus kus tapos!!!!!
pag may natira pwede kapa mag babad ng labahen!!!!!
o kaya pag wala kayo makita sa sari sari store bili kayo kay fouljohn! sya ang distributor nyan! :-D

dami nga dito nyan.... :lol:

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: matteotanga on April 22, 2007, 01:31:07 AM

o bili na!!! :-D meron ding tripid pack!!!

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: fouljan on April 22, 2007, 01:32:49 AM

hehehehehe..... sa tatlong pack.. 5pesos... nkatipid ka ng 1peso... aus... tripid pack... hehe..

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: prjm14 on April 22, 2007, 01:35:07 AM

namerge na topic mo.. heheh

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: fouljan on April 22, 2007, 12:23:27 PM

Quote from: prjm14 on April 22, 2007, 01:35:07 AM

namerge na topic mo.. heheh

uu nga e.... dito naman sya tlaga nararapat.... hehehe... :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sparkfly on April 26, 2007, 11:58:42 AM

NICE BRO!! NAPAGANDA MO YUNG STANDS! PARA NG BAGO! Kung ganyan yung quality niya nung binebenta ko pa, tataasan ko presyo. Hehe. Pwede mo benta ulit tapos tutubo ka pa. hehehe. Pero di ka na makakahanap ng ganun kamura na stands.

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: sparkfly on April 26, 2007, 12:02:28 PM

Quote from: fouljan on April 22, 2007, 01:22:04 AM

aus nga e... hehe.. lam nyo bang ermats ku pa ngsabi skin nto..?!! nkita nya kc ku ngkakandahirap sa pagkuskus nung mga stands.. cnubukan ku sabunin sabay kuskus ng scotch brite,, hindi prin maalis ung mga "tiny" kalawang.. last resort kna sana ung "coke" e... sabay snabihan aku ni ermats na oxalic nga daw panlinis dun... e marami kmi nun e.. tambak d2 un... snubukan ku... aun... aus na aus...hehe.....salamat ke ermats... cgurado ku,, marami mtutulungan "tip" ni ermats...hehe.. :-D :-D :-D

Sana pala matagal ko na nakilala ermats mo! Hahaha! :)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: fouljan on April 26, 2007, 12:27:28 PM

^^^ sir wilbert!! kmusta? hehe... dku na ibebenta tu... kayamanan na sakin tu... hehe... slamat uli sa stands sir... :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sparkfly on April 26, 2007, 12:37:45 PM

No problem! Natuwa nga ko nung nakita ko siyang malinis na ulit. Yung cymbals na kukunin mo sa akin nilinis ko na para di nakakahiya sayo. hehe.

(Sorry guys! Balik na sa topic! Hehe.)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: caster_tROY on June 25, 2007, 12:51:01 AM

huuuwwwaaaw!!! musta sir wilbert' haha ayus nga ung sinasabi ni sir fouljan...tatry ko na to... astig....sayang kasi ung mga pearl stands ko medyo may kalawang na' thanks sir fouljan'

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: caster_tROY on June 25, 2007, 01:17:05 AM

Quote from: fouljan on April 21, 2007, 11:23:40 PM

mga sir,, share ku lang,, effective hardware cleaner.. IMO gudbye na sa mahal na "coke" as cleaner.. familiar ba kau sa "oxalic" or "oxallic"? ito ung mga naka pack na nabibili sa mga sari-sari store.. 2pesos per pack.. naka hilera sya sa mga tawas, tina at chlorine.. mura lang sya pero sobrang effective..

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1704.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1706.jpg)

mix mo lang sya sa water.. sakin sa gnito kalaking container, 10packs nilagay ku..

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1697.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1696.jpg)

eto ung hardware (stands) ku before,, nabili ku lang din d2 sa isang forumer.. (thnx to sir wilbert)

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1709.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1700.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1699.jpg)

tapos,, babad mo lang sa solution ng 4-6hours.. babad lang,, babad lang,, babad lang.........

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1697.jpg)

tapos ule,,, punasan mna sya ng tuyong basahan,, di mna kaylangan ng soap and water,,, basta i dry mna sya using dry cloth.... etu na ung nangyari...

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1783.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1766.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1708.jpg)

pogi na uli sla.... sana nakatulong..... aus!!!

eto ba ung nabili mu kay sir wilbert na pearl boomstands'swerte' paarbor isa'hehehe

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: caster_tROY on June 26, 2007, 02:08:37 AM

wahhh..walang oxalic dito sa mga tindahan samin banda..badtrip uncivilized pa cla..sir fouljan ano pagkakaiba ng "alox" sa oxalic?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: fouljan on June 27, 2007, 12:45:58 PM

d2 sa tindahan samin madami..... hehe... "alox"? dku lang alam kung anu pagkakaiba nun sa "oxa" hehe.... :-D san ba area mo? bka makatulong,, bilhan kita pos mit tau... :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: caster_tROY on June 27, 2007, 09:35:05 PM

hehe nakakuha na ko... piso isa.. pwede rin pala alox ang gamitin parehas lang sila ng itsura parang shabu'hehe hay kintab na mga stands and rims ng drums ko..oy magkikita pa la tayo mamaya noh..haha see yu later"

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: fouljan on June 27, 2007, 11:53:53 PM

hehe.. aus yun... "alox" bago na naman.... salamat pala sa toms.. hehe... nice deal.....

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: caster_tROY on June 28, 2007, 01:07:50 AM

UR welcome ulet..haha kaya nga bagong pangmaintenace..payo sa katulad ko kung wala kayo mabilan na oxalic sa mga tindahan na uncivilized sabihin nyo lang aloX at bibigyan nila kayo kagad nun...effective na effective.. mas matagal ang babaran mas tanggal ang kalawang' hehe

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Agent_So on July 01, 2007, 12:07:32 AM

maraming oxalic sa mercury drugstores.. naka bili ako ng 100 gramo ng shabu este oxalic, by apollo for 16pesos. hehehee.. meron mas maliit. im trying to clean my snare now.. hehehe..

paalala: itabi nyo ng maigi ito.. baka mapagkamalang betsin ni inday or ni misis! lolz!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: caster_tROY on July 01, 2007, 12:51:15 AM

haha tama and also itabi nyo yang chemical na yan sa tamang lalagyan baka mahawakan ng mga chikiting at paglaruan, baka mapoison sila"

note: this chemical could not harm your skin, oag nalagyan kayo sa mata or natalsikan ng oxalic huagasan ang mata mga 10 minutes.. if nairitate consult your doctor na,,hehe nabasa ko lang sa naresearch ko...

pero sure na rustproofing yang OXALIC oR ALOX

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Agent_So on July 01, 2007, 12:23:37 PM

update lang mga guys.... ok sya sa chrome,, pero wag na wag sa mga none chrome parts! especially steel or metals parts! like mga screws.... alam nyo yung nabubuong puti sa takore (kettle)??? parang ganun, lahat ng dumi didikit sa mga parts na yun...

at isa pa, kung may open wound kayo, malaking no-no na malagyan yun kasi sobrang hapdi! as in! meron kasi ako maliit na hiwa ng blade sa may daliri ko. nung binubuksan ko palang yung packaging. di ko namalayan nalagyan yung daliri ko! grabe! sobrang hapdi! mas mahapdi pa sa alcohol!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sparkfly on July 01, 2007, 12:57:04 PM

Quote from: Agent_So on July 01, 2007, 12:23:37 PM

update lang mga guys.... ok sya sa chrome,, pero wag na wag sa mga none chrome parts! especially steel or metals parts! like mga screws.... alam nyo yung nabubuong puti sa takore (kettle)??? parang ganun, lahat ng dumi didikit sa mga parts na yun...

at isa pa, kung may open wound kayo, malaking no-no na malagyan yun kasi sobrang hapdi! as in! meron kasi ako maliit na hiwa ng blade sa may daliri ko. nung binubuksan ko palang yung packaging. di ko namalayan nalagyan yung daliri ko! grabe! sobrang hapdi! mas mahapdi pa sa alcohol!

Really? So ano kaya ang pinaka-ok na pangtanggal ng rust and tarnishes sa screws? Hirap naman yon sa mga stands kasi di ganon kadali tanggalin yung mga screws non.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: rhanen28 on July 01, 2007, 01:16:29 PM

question lang yung drumset ko kasi yung pwesto nya eh tutok sa aircon hindi kaya kawawa ang cymbals at hardware ko nun?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Agent_So on July 02, 2007, 10:06:53 AM

Quote from: sparkfly on July 01, 2007, 12:57:04 PM

Quote from: Agent_So on July 01, 2007, 12:23:37 PM
update lang mga guys.... ok sya sa chrome,, pero wag na wag sa mga none chrome parts! especially steel or metals parts! like mga screws.... alam nyo yung nabubuong puti sa takore (kettle)??? parang ganun, lahat ng dumi didikit sa mga parts na yun...

at isa pa, kung may open wound kayo, malaking no-no na malagyan yun kasi sobrang hapdi! as in! meron kasi ako maliit na hiwa ng blade sa may daliri ko. nung binubuksan ko palang yung packaging. di ko namalayan nalagyan yung daliri ko! grabe! sobrang hapdi! mas mahapdi pa sa alcohol!

Really? So ano kaya ang pinaka-ok na pangtanggal ng rust and tarnishes sa screws? Hirap naman yon sa mga stands kasi di ganon kadali tanggalin yung mga screws non.

in my opinion, the best is WD40 or kerosene.. babad mo lang.. i speaking of none chrome parts ha...

Title: I NEED HELP SA MGA EXPERT SA PAG RERESTORE NG DRUMS...
Post by: greysky on July 15, 2007, 06:09:59 AM

may binigay saken generic drumset eto ung problem ko:

1) 4 lugs lng ung sa toms and 5 lugs lng ung sa floor
do i need to add pa ba ng lugs?

2) if ever na kailangan ko mag add ng lugs, saan ako makakabili ng rims ang lugs?
and how much?

3) wala ng cover lahat ng shells as in lahat (toms, bass, floor tom) as in kahoy nlng itchura nya...
ano ba mas maganda gawin pinturahan ko? (kasi may friend ako na nag a-airbrush)
wala bang effect ung paint sa kahoy?
or bumili nlng ako ng pwedeng ipang wrap?

post nyo nlng po mga suggestions nyo sayang din kasi ung set khit generic lng sya :-D

-thanks-

Title: Re: I NEED HELP SA MGA EXPERT SA PAG RERESTORE NG DRUMS...
Post by: greysky on July 16, 2007, 09:39:00 AM

any suggestions?

Title: Re: I NEED HELP SA MGA EXPERT SA PAG RERESTORE NG DRUMS...
Post by: peeves24 on July 16, 2007, 10:00:42 AM

Quote from: greysky on July 15, 2007, 06:09:59 AM

may binigay saken generic drumset eto ung problem ko:

1) 4 lugs lng ung sa toms and 5 lugs lng ung sa floor
do i need to add pa ba ng lugs? nope

2) if ever na kailangan ko mag add ng lugs, saan ako makakabili ng rims ang lugs? lazer
and how much? 220 to 400+ mula maliit na tom hanggang malaking floor tom. multiply by two kasi taas baba papalitan mo. lugs depende sa trip mo, ave price is 80 each. just do the math

3) wala ng cover lahat ng shells as in lahat (toms, bass, floor tom) as in kahoy nlng itchura nya...
ano ba mas maganda gawin pinturahan ko? (kasi may friend ako na nag a-airbrush)
wala bang effect ung paint sa kahoy? wala
or bumili nlng ako ng pwedeng ipang wrap? mas mura ang wrap kesa pinturahan ang drum. ikaw na magdecide

post nyo nlng po mga suggestions nyo sayang din kasi ung set khit generic lng sya :-D

-thanks-

Title: Re: I NEED HELP SA MGA EXPERT SA PAG RERESTORE NG DRUMS...
Post by: greysky on July 16, 2007, 04:13:38 PM

kala ko po kasi kailangan ko pa dagdagan ung lugs pra sa tom
ang konti kasi eh eheheh
karaniwan na nkikita may mga six lugs
sa floor nman 8 ata...

thanks Mr. peeves24 sa pag sagot :-D

Title: Re: I NEED HELP SA MGA EXPERT SA PAG RERESTORE NG DRUMS...
Post by: matteotanga on July 16, 2007, 04:50:11 PM

me and fouljan we can help about sa wraps pm ka nalang...ok? :-D

Title: Re: I NEED HELP SA MGA EXPERT SA PAG RERESTORE NG DRUMS...
Post by: feed_back on July 18, 2007, 08:10:13 PM

bro nag restore na ako ng drums tingnan mo nalang tong link http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,53166.0.html

and one more thing mas mura ang lugs sa raon kesa sa lazer 40 lang yata ang isa at kung nag titipid ka mas mura ang vinyl kesa sa air brush

Title: how to remove rust from hardware?
Post by: toybitz on September 20, 2007, 11:04:16 PM

is there a thread like this?

please refer me...

if not...

panu ba alisin? napabayaan ko yun drumset ko for 3 years..ginagamit ko pero hindi ko napupunasan..

Title: Re: how to remove rust from hardware?
Post by: marko21 on September 20, 2007, 11:08:22 PM

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,12706.90.html

:-D

Title: Re: how to remove rust from hardware?
Post by: alvin_11 on September 20, 2007, 11:09:21 PM

WD-40 lang ang solution dyan kapatid! bili ka nalang sa Ace hardware..pati sa cymbals gumagana yan..kahit sa mga batterhead ok din gamitin! :-)

Title: Re: how to remove rust from hardware?
Post by: stiknstone on September 20, 2007, 11:23:27 PM

konting is-is..konting punas..at mukhang bago na naman :lol:

Title: Re: how to remove rust from hardware?
Post by: marko21 on September 20, 2007, 11:26:42 PM

Quote from: alvin_11 on September 20, 2007, 11:09:21 PM

WD-40 lang ang solution dyan kapatid! bili ka nalang sa Ace hardware..pati sa cymbals gumagana yan..kahit sa mga batterhead ok din gamitin! :-)

yay delikado gamitin yan sa cymbals

Title: Re: how to remove rust from hardware?
Post by: alvin_11 on September 20, 2007, 11:35:39 PM

Quote from: marko21 on September 20, 2007, 11:26:42 PM

yay delikado gamitin yan sa cymbals

bakit naman po? gamit ko to sa cymbals ko, natatanggal naman lahat ng dumi..

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: metalmuhlisha on September 20, 2007, 11:53:43 PM

afaik, hindi delikado ang wd40 sa cymbals. lubricant lang naman siya e. although personally, i don't use it on my cymbals. pero sa hardware oo. may protective qualities din kasi siya sa bakal. i think.

Title: Re: how to remove rust from hardware?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 21, 2007, 12:14:30 AM

Quote from: marko21 on September 20, 2007, 11:26:42 PM

yay delikado gamitin yan sa cymbals

do you have proof of this?

Title: Re: how to remove rust from hardware?
Post by: toybitz on September 21, 2007, 01:02:33 AM

Quote from: stiknstone on September 20, 2007, 11:23:27 PM

konting is-is..konting punas..at mukhang bago na naman :lol:

anung pang is-is ang gagamitin?

thanks for referring me here guys.

Title: drum repair
Post by: shinkenshinobu on November 01, 2007, 01:52:50 PM

meron po ba kayong alam na nagre-repair ng drums(snare drums in particular)? i need to have my snare drums fixed asap.

tnx in advance

Title: Re: drum repair
Post by: stilljey on November 01, 2007, 01:58:45 PM

ako rin, kailangan yata overhaul na itong drumset namin.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on November 01, 2007, 06:42:22 PM

Posting your problem in details might help us more to direct you to certain people/facilities that can do the repair. :wink:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: shinkenshinobu on November 01, 2007, 08:01:10 PM

Quote from: Akira JUMBO on November 01, 2007, 06:42:22 PM

Posting your problem in details might help us more to direct you to certain people/facilities that can do the repair. :wink:

ah. thanks po for the advice :-D

anyway, i think the problem is with the lugs ng snare ko. 'di kasi kumakagat yung tension rod pag tinotono ko. and right now it got worse; nag-warp na yung batter head and di na siya maayos 'coz sira nga ung lugs. i'm considering on buying a new snare drum but if pwede pa 'to mapaayos mas ok. hope you guys could help me with this. you could teach me how to fix it myself or mas ok if you could refer me to somebody na marunong talaga mag-ayos nito(baka masira ko pa lalo).

thanks in advance

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on November 01, 2007, 08:22:00 PM

@shinkenshinobu

Are you referring to just 1 lug problem? If so simply replace the receiver (the small brass/metal tube inside the lug with threads which holds the rod in place) of the lug. These items are easily available at Lazer or JB music which can be found in most malls. :wink:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: shinkenshinobu on November 01, 2007, 08:30:07 PM

what if it's more than one lug?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on November 01, 2007, 09:29:27 PM

Quote from: shinkenshinobu on November 01, 2007, 08:30:07 PM

what if it's more than one lug?

..buy more receivers :wink:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: shinkenshinobu on November 01, 2007, 09:38:21 PM

di ko naisip yun ah :lol:

uhh last question: so for example if i already bought some receivers do you think that a noob like me could fix it for my self or should i ask help from someone who knows how to deal with such things?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on November 01, 2007, 09:49:15 PM

Quote from: shinkenshinobu on November 01, 2007, 09:38:21 PM

di ko naisip yun ah :lol:

uhh last question: so for example if i already bought some receivers do you think that a noob like me could fix it for my self or should i ask help from someone who knows how to deal with such things?

Nah! I'm sure you can handle it, all you need is a screw driver and a drum key to remove the head.. :lol:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: shinkenshinobu on November 01, 2007, 09:52:16 PM

well, hope you're right sir. oh well, thanks for the advice :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on November 01, 2007, 09:56:23 PM

if problem persists get back on us :-D

good luck!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mic2 on December 12, 2007, 01:08:23 PM

sir tanong ko lang po paano po ba mag repaint ng drum kit? medyo luma na kasi yung kit ko gusto ko sana paayos, pa repaint ko sana meron po ba dito nakakaalam kung paano or meron po ba gumagawa nyan dito? salamat po.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on December 13, 2007, 02:20:23 PM

Quote from: mic2 on December 12, 2007, 01:08:23 PM

sir tanong ko lang po paano po ba mag repaint ng drum kit? medyo luma na kasi yung kit ko gusto ko sana paayos, pa repaint ko sana meron po ba dito nakakaalam kung paano or meron po ba gumagawa nyan dito? salamat po.

matrabaho yan bro, naconsider mo nang ire-wrap nalang?

anyway kung gusto mo tlagang irepaint yung kit mo:

1. strip mo yung wrap (kung meron) or yung current paint ng drums mo, sand paper mo para ok yung pagkastrip.
2. kung nagtanggal ka ng wrap, sand mo yung drums para maging pantay ulit yung surface nya, then sand some more para kuminis na parang pwet ng bata or:
3. lagyan mo na ng primer, mas madali ito pag sprayed primer, kasi halos pantay na agad ito and matatakpan nya na yung hindi pagkapino ng kahoy after nung initial sandin mo. sand mo pa din kung gusto mong mas makinis pa. best ito kung colored yung ippaint mo pero kung gusto mong natural finish or stained, wag mo lagyan ng primer kasi usually puti, gray, or red ito.
4. pag makinis na yung shell at satisfied ka na sa kinis nya, may primer man o wala, saka mo na cya sprayan ng gusto mong kulay or stain. apply several coats depende sa gusto mo
5. last sprayan mo ng clear coat para may konting protection ung paint/stain layer mo, also para mas makintab, again depende sayo kung gano kadaming coats gusto mo ilagay

I hope that helped

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: dredrums on December 13, 2007, 08:20:53 PM

Quote from: mic2 on December 12, 2007, 01:08:23 PM

sir tanong ko lang po paano po ba mag repaint ng drum kit? medyo luma na kasi yung kit ko gusto ko sana paayos, pa repaint ko sana meron po ba dito nakakaalam kung paano or meron po ba gumagawa nyan dito? salamat po.

You might want to use a Vinyl sticker to wrap the drums. This is available in most DIY shops like Ace Hardware and is available in LOTS of colors and finishes. Around 120 pesos for a roll (which can wrap around two toms..I think hehe) Hope this helps. :-)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: rhanen28 on December 13, 2007, 09:37:16 PM

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on December 13, 2007, 02:20:23 PM

5. last sprayan mo ng clear coat para may konting protection ung paint/stain layer mo, also para mas makintab, again depende sayo kung gano kadaming coats gusto mo ilagay

add ko na rin after mo rin ma clear coat eh try mo na din i-buff na rin for smoothness and extra shine

Title: What to do with "Rusted Chrome Hardwares"???
Post by: DumDrum on January 14, 2008, 11:39:15 AM

hmm.. mga sir pa help nmn.. any suggestions na pde gawin sa mga CHROME Stands | Hoops | Lugs na kinakalawang?? hmm..

naicp ko po kc, prang hnd sila maganda tignan kung my paint..
sa side nmn po ng mga stands, mttanggal kapag ina-adjust ung height, dhl ung tube ay naiipit..

Hmm.. :|

Title: Re: What to do with "Rusted Chrome Hardwares"???
Post by: tagz on January 14, 2008, 12:05:14 PM

powdercoat kaya sir? mas maganda un kesa ordinary paint..

Title: Re: What to do with "Rusted Chrome Hardwares"???
Post by: DumDrum on January 14, 2008, 08:06:45 PM

powdercoat? hmm.. san po kaya available un??

hnd po kaya matanggal ung powdercoated na Cymbal stands for example Boomstand sa pag aadjust ng height nito??

or hnd kaya sumikip ung fittings ng tube to another collar?

Title: lubricating the pedals..
Post by: gerr4 on April 07, 2008, 01:34:28 PM

ano po magandang pang lubricate ng pedals? pti sa shaft ng mga double peds? pati sa i lalagay?

Title: Re: lubricating the pedals..
Post by: 9_spiral on April 07, 2008, 01:39:09 PM

ok na lubricant ang wd-40 nilalagay ko sa chain drives, at dun sa screws ng shaft para fluid ang flow ng slave pedal ko. pwede rin baby oil para cheap hehe :-D

Title: Re: lubricating the pedals..
Post by: drewLAKANDULA on April 07, 2008, 01:57:27 PM

sakin naman...wd-40 madalas kong ginagamit eh.....ok din yun bro try mo gamitin wd-40.. :-D

Title: Re: lubricating the pedals..
Post by: Tugpaktugpak on April 07, 2008, 02:06:50 PM

Ung singer na oil...ung kulay pula...ung di sya masyadong didikitan ng alikabok...same lang din sa DW40 pero sa DW40 nangingitim pagtumatagal tska mataas ung affinity nya sa alikabok..di kagaya ng singer na oil, brushin mo lang natatanggal na di pa ngingitim ung oil......opinion lang po yan....try nyo po kung effective din sa inyo

Title: Re: lubricating the pedals..
Post by: phfreq on April 07, 2008, 07:11:12 PM

sabi po nila yung wd40 daw after a while gagaspang ang mga nakacontact. yun namang mga regular oils and mga grease, makalat. Ang pinatry sa akin eh yung tri-flow lubricant aerosol.

http://www.triflowlubricants.com/Superior_Aerosol/superior_aerosol.html

sa ace hardware sa us nabili pero baka available kahit saang ace hardware... maganda sya.. malinis after pagka-apply tapos walang squeak and madulas.. highly recommended :-)

Title: Re: lubricating the pedals..
Post by: marko21 on April 07, 2008, 07:21:31 PM

How much po yan?

Title: Re: lubricating the pedals..
Post by: autoexec on April 08, 2008, 12:26:48 AM

Quote from: phfreq on April 07, 2008, 07:11:12 PM

sabi po nila yung wd40 daw after a while gagaspang ang mga nakacontact. yun namang mga regular oils and mga grease, makalat. Ang pinatry sa akin eh yung tri-flow lubricant aerosol.

http://www.triflowlubricants.com/Superior_Aerosol/superior_aerosol.html

sa ace hardware sa us nabili pero baka available kahit saang ace hardware... maganda sya.. malinis after pagka-apply tapos walang squeak and madulas.. highly recommended :-)

Astig! Matry nga yan, salamat sa info bro. :-)

Title: Re: lubricating the pedals..
Post by: phfreq on April 08, 2008, 12:14:02 PM

np..

nagamit ko na nawala talaga ung squeak... eh sobrang ingay na yon nakakainis na eh.. he hehe... tapos hindi sya makalat.. and matagal din...

hindi ko alam ang price pero sa us parang ung maliit is around $7. Konti lang ang magagamit mo sigurado wala nang ingay ang pedal.. And kahit saan pwede gamitin yon eh.. dun sa can nakalagay ang mga pictures ng bikes and kung ano ano pa na nagsqueak or maingay :-)

hindi ko pa natatanong sa local ace hardware.. sana meron...

Title: Re: lubricating the pedals..
Post by: gerr4 on April 08, 2008, 12:51:14 PM

wow thanks sa mga tumulong.. :lol:
@ thanks sana meron nang triflow dito hehe.. checheck ko nga sa ace hardware..

Title: Re: lubricating the pedals..
Post by: autoexec on April 09, 2008, 01:07:06 AM

Quote from: phfreq on April 08, 2008, 12:14:02 PM

np..

nagamit ko na nawala talaga ung squeak... eh sobrang ingay na yon nakakainis na eh.. he hehe... tapos hindi sya makalat.. and matagal din...

hindi ko alam ang price pero sa us parang ung maliit is around $7. Konti lang ang magagamit mo sigurado wala nang ingay ang pedal.. And kahit saan pwede gamitin yon eh.. dun sa can nakalagay ang mga pictures ng bikes and kung ano ano pa na nagsqueak or maingay :-)

hindi ko pa natatanong sa local ace hardware.. sana meron...

Ayos sana meron nyan dito hehe... Tama ka bro pag nilagay ko yung wd-40 sa joints sa connecting rod gumagaspang pag tagal... Kaya ang ginagawa ko pang linis ko lang talaga yung wd-40 (pang tanggal ng mga kalawang) tapos tska ko lalagyan ng sewing machine oil.. Hehe.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: pgm929 on May 11, 2008, 03:40:40 PM

i used steel wool in removing rust sa metal parts ng drums ko...effective sya at hndi nagagas ung surface..lagyan mo lng ng konting oil ung steel wool...

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: toybitz on May 15, 2008, 02:36:39 PM

ok...just bought a 500g of oxalic..

should I remove the rubber feet, springs, screw before I soak my hardware?

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: toybitz on May 16, 2008, 12:29:06 AM

ok..soaked it na..

I'm too tired to take pictures...just came from 2 hours of practic and gig..report ko na lang later when i dry the wares..

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: autoexec on May 17, 2008, 09:16:23 AM

Ok ang oxalic mga bro, sinubukan ko kahapon, 50g lang sa isang maliit na balde..
Makikita nyo sa pic yung difference, obviously the rusted part wasn't soaked dahil maliit nga lang yung balde.. :D

after 8 hours of soaking...
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj39/josephxv_autoexec/Drum%20Stuff/Hardwares/Image134.jpg)
credit goes to bro fouljan :-)

FYI: Hindi yan ordinaryong kalawang na matatanggal lang sa wd-40, napangiti
talaga ko nung nakita ko ang resulta sa oxalic. :-D

Title: HOW TO REMOVE RUST ON YOUR LUGS AND THE EASY AND SAFE WAY
Post by: dabomb on July 21, 2008, 05:54:05 PM

THIS IS ONLY APPLICBLE TO LUGS AND NUTS THAT ARE VERY RUSTY....

THINGS YOU NEED:
1 1.5LITER COKE BOTTLE CUT IN HALF
1 BOTTLE REGULAR MURIATIC ACID
MOTOR OIL NEW NOT USED
2 DRY CLOTH

PROCEDURE:
STEP 1: REMOVE ALL YOUR RUSTY LUGS PLACE IT IN THE COKE CONTAINER.
STEP 2: POUR MURIATIC ACID AND LET IT SIT FOR 3-4 HOURS...OBSERVE
STEP 3: REMOVE MURATIC ACID AND POUR H2O AND POWDERED SOAP..RINSE IT.
STEP 4: DRY WITH CLEAN CLOTH
STEP 5: PLACE IT AGAIN IN THE CONTAINER THEN POUR MOTOR OIL LET IT SIT FOR HALF A DAY...VOILA NO MORE RUSTY LUGS

IF YOUR NOT SO SURE OF THIS TRY IT ON A NUT OR BOLT THAT IS RUSTY TNX...

*Topic merged with existing/related thread.

And next time, please do not use all-caps font. Please read the Pinoydrums Forum Guidelines (sticky). Thanks!

- Pinoydrums Moderator

Title: Re: HOW TO REMOVE RUST ON YOUR LUGS AND THE EASY AND SAFE WAY
Post by: oliver_soh on July 21, 2008, 06:52:40 PM

do u have a pics?

Title: Re: HOW TO REMOVE RUST ON YOUR LUGS AND THE EASY AND SAFE WAY
Post by: dabomb on July 21, 2008, 07:07:09 PM

wala pa upload ko plang pero nagawa ko na sir nakabili ksi ako ng 2nd hand na kit e puro rust ung mga lugs and bolts nya..ung result bro tangal ang kalawang talaga parang bago basta sundan mo lang yan...try ko mag upload ng pics bro..try mo muna sa ibang nuts and bolts na puro kalawang..

Title: Re: HOW TO REMOVE RUST ON YOUR LUGS AND THE EASY AND SAFE WAY
Post by: metalmuhlisha on July 21, 2008, 09:38:00 PM

uy ayos to ah. this might come in handy someday. pics!

Title: Re: HOW TO REMOVE RUST ON YOUR LUGS AND THE EASY AND SAFE WAY
Post by: pmack on July 21, 2008, 11:01:39 PM

lagyan mo pics bro! thanks sa payo!
:-)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: dolfmen on July 28, 2008, 11:31:49 AM

ser kahit ba pag tipong natatangal na yng chrome?? meron kasi akong supraphonic na ludwig tapos may mga rust marks na at medyo natatangal na yng chrome nya, tamang tight budget ako kaya may other way ba na puede ko irestor yun? sayang kasi eh, salamat :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: ren0wn15 on November 27, 2008, 08:35:43 AM

buhayin ko lang tong topic na to. kaya ba ng "COKE" ang mga rusted lugs or hoops? may irerestore lang ako na matindi. :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: royalletones on November 27, 2008, 08:49:45 AM

Quote from: ren0wn15 on November 27, 2008, 08:35:43 AM

buhayin ko lang tong topic na to. kaya ba ng "COKE" ang mga rusted lugs or hoops? may irerestore lang ako na matindi. :-D

sir pag lugs siguro kaya coke
pero pag hoops dapat dyan oxalic or turco rust converter. effective yun.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: ren0wn15 on November 27, 2008, 01:46:00 PM

Quote from: royalletones on November 27, 2008, 08:49:45 AM

sir pag lugs siguro kaya coke
pero pag hoops dapat dyan oxalic or turco rust converter. effective yun.

thanks royalletones! :roll:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: karlwilson on December 08, 2008, 11:18:28 PM

The Oxalic thing works!recently soaked my nickel parts and nickel lugs,rims..even the snare shell itself of my tama rockstar dx..super shiny sila ulet! :-D
OXALIC will make you SMILE talaga!. :-D ha.ha.

All credits to Sir Fouljan!Thanks for the bright idea!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on December 11, 2008, 10:21:21 PM

yap!
oxalic raw pampatanggal. wala lang. :-)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: man4590 on December 12, 2008, 12:06:48 AM

:-D SIR SAAN MAKABILI NG OXALLIC ?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: thunder_god on December 12, 2008, 02:21:22 AM

Quote from: man4590 on December 12, 2008, 12:06:48 AM

:-D SIR SAAN MAKABILI NG OXALLIC ?

Check page 7 of this thread. Again, kudos to fouljan or to his mother I should say for their discovery of oxalic.

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,12706.90.html

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mambo on January 05, 2009, 12:51:48 AM

meron na nga kaya nakasubok nito sa cymbals?
sobrang effective kasi sa mga lugs, tension rods, at kung ano pang nakakabit sa shells eh. even yung cymbal stand pumopogi talaga eh....

what about sa cymbals kaya? meron na nga kaya nakasubok? :?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mambo on January 10, 2009, 12:20:40 AM

naglinis ako ng mga lugs, tension rods, rims, stands etc. using the oxalic acid!
very effective, feeling ko bagong bili yung kit ko!hehe share ko lang yung pics..

presenting the wonders of OXALIC ACID!! :evil:
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/mambo_81187/DSC01307.jpg)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/mambo_81187/DSC01310.jpg)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/mambo_81187/DSC01311.jpg)

look how shiny it become!hehehe
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/mambo_81187/DSC01323.jpg)

this is the result after soaking it for 5 hrs (but i think 30 mins ok na sya and you'll already see a very good result) kaya inspect nyo nalang from time to time kung kailangan pang ibabad.

ayos talaga yung oxalic acid..yup acid sya kaya masakit sa sugat. :-P

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: magalzo on January 12, 2009, 07:50:54 AM

wow.. pero parang natatakot ako gumamit ng acid.. baka masama yan pag nalanghap..haha. ewan..

question..

napansin ko lagi dumudumi yung tip ng sticks ko, nangingitim.. so ung itim ng sticks, nalilipat din sa mga pinapaluan niya.. ngaun, pati snare drum head ko at hats ko may spots na ng itim. pano ba solution dun? dapat ba pinupunasan din ung sticks? waa.. thanks in advance..

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mambo on January 12, 2009, 02:08:18 PM

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hindi naman wala naman akong naramdaman nung nalanghap ko, hehe pero may precautions nga sa likod ning pack tungkol sa pag langhap nun.

anyways, i think yung dumi galing sa cymbals yun at syempre sa mga alikabok na dumidikit sa stick mo everytime na pumapalo ka. naiipon sila. ngayon specially sa snare (hula ko coated din ang snare mo), diba nagsimula sa magaspang yun at puti pa kaya obvious yung dumi.

ako rin kasi ganyan nangyayari sakin, sinisisi ko pa noon yung stick ko kasi black yung kulay kaya baka sya yung nanghahawa.

kung maselan ka talaga eh, try mo nalang punasan yung kit mo bef. you play (including your cymbals).
pati na ring ang stick mo siguro!hehe

try mo rin yung nilagang cymbals ni sir peeves, gumagana yun. :wink:

sana may naitulong!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on January 12, 2009, 08:49:58 PM

Quote from: magalzo on January 12, 2009, 07:50:54 AM

wow.. pero parang natatakot ako gumamit ng acid.. baka masama yan pag nalanghap..haha. ewan..

question..

napansin ko lagi dumudumi yung tip ng sticks ko, nangingitim.. so ung itim ng sticks, nalilipat din sa mga pinapaluan niya.. ngaun, pati snare drum head ko at hats ko may spots na ng itim. pano ba solution dun? dapat ba pinupunasan din ung sticks? waa.. thanks in advance..

bro, kahit anung palo gawin mo sa clear na skin, talagang dudumi. Pero subukan mo ring magdrums na nililinis yung tips ng sticks.

natural na kasi sa coated skin ang mangitim eh. Kapag tumatanda ang isang bagay, talagang dudumi. Pwede mo naman linisin yung skin eh. :-)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on January 12, 2009, 08:54:34 PM

guys, ask ko lang.
coated kasi ang tomtoms namin, kung iisisin ko yung skin para pumuti, mkakaapekto ba yun sa performance? E kung hindi ko linisin, makakaapekto rin ba sa performance yun? salamat.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: rhanen28 on January 12, 2009, 09:07:59 PM

wag mong is-isin baka matanggal ung coating

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: simplypao on January 13, 2009, 12:34:59 AM

Safe ba sa environment itong oxallic? Baka kasi kapag itinapon ko sa drain eh makasama sa kapaligiran. Lilinis nga ang gears ko pero baka mamaya pinapatay ko naman ang kalikasan...

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: magalzo on January 13, 2009, 06:44:22 AM

Quote from: mambo on January 12, 2009, 02:08:18 PM

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anyways, i think yung dumi galing sa cymbals yun at syempre sa mga alikabok na dumidikit sa stick mo everytime na pumapalo ka. naiipon sila. ngayon specially sa snare (hula ko coated din ang snare mo), diba nagsimula sa magaspang yun at puti pa kaya obvious yung dumi.

ako rin kasi ganyan nangyayari sakin, sinisisi ko pa noon yung stick ko kasi black yung kulay kaya baka sya yung nanghahawa.

kung maselan ka talaga eh, try mo nalang punasan yung kit mo bef. you play (including your cymbals).
pati na ring ang stick mo siguro!hehe

try mo rin yung nilagang cymbals ni sir peeves, gumagana yun. :wink:

sana may naitulong!

anung nilagang cymbals? at may alam ba kayo kung san makakabili ng cymbal cleaner ngaun? out of stock kc sa jb at salonga eh.. wala sa alabang, wala din sa cubao.. andumi na ng cymbals ko.. waaa..

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: magalzo on January 13, 2009, 06:49:03 AM

Quote from: kimpoy19 on January 12, 2009, 08:49:58 PM

bro, kahit anung palo gawin mo sa clear na skin, talagang dudumi. Pero subukan mo ring magdrums na nililinis yung tips ng sticks.

natural na kasi sa coated skin ang mangitim eh. Kapag tumatanda ang isang bagay, talagang dudumi. Pwede mo naman linisin yung skin eh. :-)

panu nga pala paglinis ng heads ng snare? pwede ba ung rug na mejo basa ng konti? natatakot kasi ako baka mamaya kumunat.. :|

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mambo on January 15, 2009, 01:44:31 AM

@ magalzo

tol try mo check dito sa forum about cymbal maintenance... :-P

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,10612.0/wap2.html

dami jan paraan kun pano linisin yung cymbals including nilagang cymbals.

Quote from: magalzo on January 13, 2009, 06:49:03 AM

panu nga pala paglinis ng heads ng snare? pwede ba ung rug na mejo basa ng konti? natatakot kasi ako baka mamaya kumunat.. :|

hindi naman siguro kukunat yun, pero baka lang kumalat lang yung dumi or worse matanggal yung coat....
i think its normal to have those dirty heads, pero nasa sayo rin yun kung trip mo talaga malinis. :-P

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: paeng16 on January 15, 2009, 10:25:33 AM

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Washable ang heads.
1) Remove heads from tom or snare.
2) Use Joy liquid soap para madulas.
3) Rub with foam or work it with your finger.
4) Kapag namuti na. banlawan at punasan.

Na try ko na sa REMO at Pearl heads to men. Ewan ko lang sa iba.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: paeng16 on January 15, 2009, 10:44:49 AM

Regarding Oxalic on Cymbals.

I've read before sa Internet Forum na pwede ito sa Cymbals din. The topic is how to clean the cymbal without taking off the logo.

Anyways, Nagpabili na ako nang oxalic and i-try ko mamaya hehehe (Bahala na si Lord!) :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: treb 821 on January 15, 2009, 01:41:19 PM

Quote from: paeng16 on January 15, 2009, 10:44:49 AM

Regarding Oxalic on Cymbals.

I've read before sa Internet Forum na pwede ito sa Cymbals din. The topic is how to clean the cymbal without taking off the logo.

Anyways, Nagpabili na ako nang oxalic and i-try ko mamaya hehehe (Bahala na si Lord!) :-D

Bro I will keenly await for the results of this kind of cleaning process for cymbals, got curious on this one.

God Bless!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: paeng16 on January 15, 2009, 01:56:31 PM

(Sacrificial Lamb ako amp! :-D)

Sure men pero kung ano man ang resulta....

SAYO KO LANG I-SHARE! wahihihihihi :-D

By the way, Na try ko na Coke sa CYmbal at let's just say na naging VINTAGE yung cymbal... (Sablay) hehehe...

Lemon na try ko na din sa cymbal at nakalinis naman ng KONTI at lumagkit at nangamoy Lemon yung kwarto! (sisig nalang ang kulang at beer) :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: treb 821 on January 15, 2009, 02:16:21 PM

Quote from: paeng16 on January 15, 2009, 01:56:31 PM

(Sacrificial Lamb ako amp! :-D)

Sure men pero kung ano man ang resulta....

SAYO KO LANG I-SHARE! wahihihihihi :-D

By the way, Na try ko na Coke sa CYmbal at let's just say na naging VINTAGE yung cymbal... (Sablay) hehehe...

Lemon na try ko na din sa cymbal at nakalinis naman ng KONTI at lumagkit at nangamoy Lemon yung kwarto! (sisig nalang ang kulang at beer) :-D

Cymbal Cleaner talaga ang effective bro, yun pa lang nasubukan ko, hassle lang talaga sa logo...nasobrahan nga linis ko tangal pati logo...hahaha! :lol:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: paeng16 on January 15, 2009, 04:31:32 PM

ako din Cymbal cleaner pero yung amoy kasi kumakapit sa kamay kaya badtrip.

Although buo pa naman yung mga logos thanks sa Johnson Buds! :-D

Update ko "IKAW LANG" :roll: men sa gagawin ko mamaya! :evil:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: paeng16 on January 17, 2009, 11:21:05 AM

Binabad ko na yung cymbal ko overnight and NO IMPROVEMENT :-o

Anyways, it may be the mixture of Oxalic and Water...

Will add more Oxalic later and we will see :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: autoexec on January 20, 2010, 02:45:06 AM

parang nakakatakot ibabad ang cymbal sa oxalic, kasi may naibabad na ko dati sa oxalic napatapang ata mixture ko at mejo napatagal ang pagbabad, kinain na ng oxalic yung bakal.. haha, sama pa ng amoy nung bakal pagkatapos banlawan, alam mong natuklapan talaga ng layer kaya sumisingaw. Update mo kami sir regarding jan.. :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: drummaniac on January 20, 2010, 11:56:21 AM

Mga sir! ano ba magandang panlinis sa Brass na shell? pwede din ba yung sa pang linis ng cymbals??

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: archraven_012 on January 20, 2010, 01:26:46 PM

try ko mamaya yung oxalic acid ilang hours ba need sa pagbabad ng mga cymbal stand???

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: archraven_012 on January 20, 2010, 03:16:33 PM

kailangan bang tangalin yung rubber bago ibabad yung mga stands???o ok lang na wag ng tangalin???

kapag gamitin pang linis ay oxalic acid???

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: archraven_012 on January 21, 2010, 02:14:32 AM

4hrs to go para makita kung ok na...

oxalic power

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: archraven_012 on January 21, 2010, 11:49:17 AM

kakagising lang hahaha napagod kakapunas at pagtuyo ng mga cymbals stands...

mga bro effective yung oxalin....

parang brand new ulit yun mga stand....

thankz philmusic....

magtatambol na lang ulit mamaya hahahah

Title: Re: Snare restoration tips?
Post by: redvillain on January 21, 2010, 10:26:10 PM

Quote from: panterica on September 04, 2006, 01:59:39 PM

effective yang coke hehehe, already tried that sir jim. effective din panlinis ng toilet bowls, magastos nga lang, pero it does the job.

i personally think its cheaper sir, kasi nsa 120 pesos n lng un sir kesa sa b umili pa tau ng iba pang cleaner sa mall hehe :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: archraven_012 on January 22, 2010, 03:07:22 PM

e2 babad naman nun isang snare ko sa oxalic....

hahahha

natuwa ako kaya sinapag magbaklas ng mga accessories sa drums at mga pyesa....nilinis ko na para maganda ulit tignan...

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mlakingcrayola on January 23, 2010, 12:02:44 AM

guys naghahanap kasi ako ng panlinis ng mga lugs & rims(para sa mga "libag", hindi ko alam yung tamang term pero yun yung mga parang white/gray dots na nag foform dun s lugs,rims, etc)

tapos nabasa ko rin dito na pede naman ang "coca-cola" for cleaning purposes based on its acidity level,
so ang tanong ko pede kaya ang "RC-cola" panglinis
kasi kung acidity level lang ang pagbabasihan mas mataas pa rin ang RC:

(http://www.livescience.com/images/070321_drink_03.jpg)

natatakot kasi ako baka lalong lumala kung ibababad ko sa RC-cola unlike sa Coca-cola subok na.

help naman mga masters dyan, sa tingin nyo pede ba?

TIA.GB

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mlakingcrayola on January 23, 2010, 12:28:52 AM

wahhh guys nag backread ako mukang oxallic nga ang effective.
galing ng mommy nung isang bro ntin dito.
bukas na bukas bibili ako ng maraming oxallic hahahah :evil:

TNX.Gb.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: archraven_012 on January 25, 2010, 01:04:11 AM

maganda tlaga oxalic pero dapat tignan tigna mo rin kz bka sumobra pumuti masyado hahahah

question mga bro.....

sa mga gumagamit na ng matagal nito...

pinupunasan nyo nyo na lang o nagkerosene pa kayo???

kz kapag di napunasan ng maayos kumakalawang eh...

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: treb 821 on January 25, 2010, 09:38:00 AM

Quote from: archraven_012 on January 25, 2010, 01:04:11 AM

maganda tlaga oxalic pero dapat tignan tigna mo rin kz bka sumobra pumuti masyado hahahah

question mga bro.....

sa mga gumagamit na ng matagal nito...

pinupunasan nyo nyo na lang o nagkerosene pa kayo???

kz kapag di napunasan ng maayos kumakalawang eh...

bro if i'm not mistaken, you should wash with soap and water after soaking in oxallic solution!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mendics on January 25, 2010, 02:02:09 PM

Quote from: treb 821 on January 25, 2010, 09:38:00 AM

bro if i'm not mistaken, you should wash with soap and water after soaking in oxallic solution!

oh? ung previous post sabi di na kelangan a, ewan sasabunan ko nlng din para sure. :|

una.. xenxa medyo mahahaba to :-D
mga pre natry ko na rin ung oxalic, 10 hrs ko ata binabad, maganda ung resulta! kaso nga lang effective lng sya sa mga hinde pa gaanong de-kalawang. pag masyado na atang malala ung pagkarust na kinain na ung chrome, medyo mahirap nang tanggalin. eto may picture ako.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f121/melancholy27/8.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f121/melancholy27/2-1.jpg)
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f121/melancholy27/3-1.jpg)
may mga flake thingy sya sa loob, baka rust.. alam nyo ba kung pano tangalin un?
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f121/melancholy27/1-2.jpg)
after ibabad ung small parts... mas gumwapo sya pero syempre ung iba, sobra na ata tlga ung kalawang.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f121/melancholy27/5-1.jpg)
mukha atang no hope na tong mga to...
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f121/melancholy27/6-1.jpg)
ang hirap linisin nitong mga maliliit na to... pero kahit 10 oras ibabad, may mga rust parin... palitan na ata?

Madugo kasi ung kondisyon ng set ko e. fernando nga pla yan.. 2nd hand, tatay ko bumili, mukha atang di naalagaan ng may-ari dati. may mga alam ba kayung pdeng gawin dito para matanggal ung rust? ung tension rods, screws, washer and lugs narin cguro kelangan nlng bumili ng bago...or itodo liha nlng, amf matrabaho.. tingin nyo ba may pagasa pa ba to? baka kasi wasted effort ako e. Ung mga malalaking parts medjo kaya pa cgurong solusyonan. may balak akong ibabad ulit 2nd time(para sa mga grabe ung rust)-ayus lng kaya yun? pa help nmn guys. :cry: thanks...

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mlakingcrayola on January 25, 2010, 11:24:40 PM

need help
guys sa tingin nyo kaya pa kaya to ng oxallic acid? :?

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/george_repo/DSCN9041.jpg)

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/george_repo/DSCN9045.jpg)

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/george_repo/DSCN9046.jpg)

hindi ko nga alam kung anong tawag dyan sa klaseng dume na yan.
pero sa tingin nyo.??

TIA.Gb :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: autoexec on January 26, 2010, 01:01:22 AM

Quote from: archraven_012 on January 25, 2010, 01:04:11 AM

maganda tlaga oxalic pero dapat tignan tigna mo rin kz bka sumobra pumuti masyado hahahah

question mga bro.....

sa mga gumagamit na ng matagal nito...

pinupunasan nyo nyo na lang o nagkerosene pa kayo???

kz kapag di napunasan ng maayos kumakalawang eh...

Banlaw lang bro tapos punas mabuti, then wd-40 para siguradong walang maiwang moisture.. ;)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: archraven_012 on January 26, 2010, 01:08:42 AM

mga guys para sure kau kerosene mga bro o kaya wd 40....<pwede rin soap and water na>

para sure...

tipid na sobra yan sa maintenance...

i sure alam nyo ebig sabihin nun...

thanks sa philmusic....lalo na dun sa nagkalat nitong info....

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: archraven_012 on January 26, 2010, 04:14:37 AM

Quote from: mlakingcrayola on January 25, 2010, 11:24:40 PM

need help
guys sa tingin nyo kaya pa kaya to ng oxallic acid? :?

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/george_repo/DSCN9041.jpg)

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/george_repo/DSCN9045.jpg)

(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/george_repo/DSCN9046.jpg)

hindi ko nga alam kung anong tawag dyan sa klaseng dume na yan.
pero sa tingin nyo.??

bro para nagkaroon ng gulutong...hehehhe

try mo lihain kung ayaw tlga matanggal...pero yung manipis n liha lang....

TIA.Gb :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: stick on January 28, 2010, 12:32:05 AM

Quote from: archraven_012 on January 26, 2010, 04:14:37 AM

susubaybayan ko to! i need to know if it's super safe on metal parts and some not-all metal parts like lugs. hindi kasi ata purong bakal ang lugs eh..? i'll be treating my would-be snare with oxalic if it's confirmed safe. :-)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: archraven_012 on January 28, 2010, 12:50:49 AM

wag masyado ibabad ng matagal kapag metal snare hehehhe....

punasan agad at lagyan wd 40 kung gus2 nyo makasigurado...

dami ko ng stock n oxalic hahahah....srap tuloy maglinis.... di masydo pagod

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: stick on January 28, 2010, 12:54:56 AM

sana di sya "humuhukay" or nag si-seep in dun sa surface nung lugs. yung sa back part? yung mga itim itim. hehe. anyway, o sige. pag nakuha ko na yung snare try ko sa isang lug muna. ay teka,,, meron pala akong spare na lazer lug. :lol: thanks bro! :-)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: archraven_012 on January 28, 2010, 01:32:14 AM

isa n lang di ko nasusubukan yung nilagang cymbals medyo kinakabahan me hahahah...

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: narz on February 02, 2010, 02:54:20 PM

mga sir totoo po ba na dapat lagyan ng oil ang mga hardwares ng set natin para daw di mangalawang? totoo po ba?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: cheezemonster08 on February 02, 2010, 04:49:45 PM

Quote from: narz on February 02, 2010, 02:54:20 PM

mga sir totoo po ba na dapat lagyan ng oil ang mga hardwares ng set natin para daw di mangalawang? totoo po ba?

Oo nilalagyan siya ng oil para di nangalawang,pero hindi basta bastang oil ha. :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: archraven_012 on February 05, 2010, 02:19:46 AM

Quote from: cheezemonster08 on February 02, 2010, 04:49:45 PM

Oo nilalagyan siya ng oil para di nangalawang,pero hindi basta bastang oil ha. :-D

yup need po talaga...kung gs2 mo po pwede yung wd 40 punas punas lang.gamit cloth

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: cheezemonster08 on April 09, 2010, 03:56:09 PM

up mganda ang thread na to :-D :-)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: byako21 on April 12, 2010, 12:34:47 AM

mga sir... i'm starting to restore a kit that i bought from sir CIRO... ano po ba ang mixture ng oxallic..

how many parts of oxallic sa how many parts of water... ex 1 2peso sachet to 1 liter??

salamat po

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mambo on April 12, 2010, 01:19:38 AM

Quote from: byako21 on April 12, 2010, 12:34:47 AM

mga sir... i'm starting to restore a kit that i bought from sir CIRO... ano po ba ang mixture ng oxallic..

how many parts of oxallic sa how many parts of water... ex 1 2peso sachet to 1 liter??

salamat po

ako sir 1 kilo ata or half kilo sa isang balde. hehehe tinantsa ko lang din eh.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: otep on April 12, 2010, 01:21:51 AM

ano ba yung oxallic acid? haha san ba nakakbili nun? ano ba common name nun? thanks.. im planning to use it on my hardwares tomorrow..

i've used coke before and it was really effective though mahal lang.. now ill try yung oxallic.. just where to buy it? tnx: )

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mambo on April 12, 2010, 01:34:41 AM

Quote from: otep on April 12, 2010, 01:21:51 AM

ano ba yung oxallic acid? haha san ba nakakbili nun? ano ba common name nun? thanks.. im planning to use it on my hardwares tomorrow..

i've used coke before and it was really effective though mahal lang.. now ill try yung oxallic.. just where to buy it? tnx: )

sa mercury drug sir meron dun.
pero ingat kayo kasi its poisonous!!! :evil:
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/mambo_81187/DSC01307.jpg)

at yung 1kilo hinalo ko sa tubig na ganito karami.... tantsya na lang. :-D
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/mambo_81187/DSC01310.jpg)

at ang results:
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/mambo_81187/DSC01311.jpg)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: otep on April 12, 2010, 10:48:28 AM

Quote from: mambo on April 12, 2010, 01:34:41 AM

sa mercury drug sir meron dun.
pero ingat kayo kasi its poisonous!!! :evil:
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/mambo_81187/DSC01307.jpg)

at yung 1kilo hinalo ko sa tubig na ganito karami.... tantsya na lang. :-D
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/mambo_81187/DSC01310.jpg)

at ang results:
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff129/mambo_81187/DSC01311.jpg)

ok sir tnx a lot :) will do my project later haha

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: otep on April 12, 2010, 05:29:30 PM

nagtanong ako sa mercury.. 194/kilo ang oxallic acid tama ba? o meron mas mura?

saka ilan po ba ratio ng paglagay nito?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: byako21 on April 12, 2010, 10:21:26 PM

bought half a kilo this morning.

tantyahan lang ang paglagay, sa mga lugs at screws naglagay ako ng 1/4 nung pack sa .5 liters siguro ng tubig... ayos naman... pero yung talagang matindi na yung kalawang eh nde na kinaya pero majority ok na ok.. sa mga stands naman nilagay ko yung natira sa kalahating balde ng tubig, naisip ko mas marami ang solution ng oxalic eh mas mabisa.. so far ok naman sya.

ask ko nga pla mga sir sa nag repaint ng shells nila... ano2x ang bibilhin na materials after maliha ang wood shell?? thanks

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mokie on April 13, 2010, 09:30:27 PM

i have a question sir, what if yung nagamit pong panglinis ng cymbals eh, metal polish?? yung zildjian cymbals ko kasi dati,nalinisan ng metal polish and ano po yung effect kapag metal polish ang ginagamit? thanks! :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mambo on April 13, 2010, 09:35:47 PM

Quote from: mokie on April 13, 2010, 09:30:27 PM

i have a question sir, what if yung nagamit pong panglinis ng cymbals eh, metal polish?? yung zildjian cymbals ko kasi dati,nalinisan ng metal polish and ano po yung effect kapag metal polish ang ginagamit? thanks! :-D

some said abrasive daw ang metal polish.... if your willing to try them papost kung ano nangyari ah.hehe

on my opinion naman, di naman siguro abrasive yun..pero katakot parin dahil sa mga nagsasabi.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mokie on April 13, 2010, 09:50:10 PM

next time sir, hindi ko nga po alam kung anong klaseng Zildjian yun dahil nawala na rin yung logo..

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on April 13, 2010, 11:53:17 PM

Quote from: mokie on April 13, 2010, 09:30:27 PM

i have a question sir, what if yung nagamit pong panglinis ng cymbals eh, metal polish?? yung zildjian cymbals ko kasi dati,nalinisan ng metal polish and ano po yung effect kapag metal polish ang ginagamit? thanks! :-D

From my experience, yes, metal polish will damage/affect your cymbal. I bought a cymbal last year, nung nakita ko na yung cymbal, medyo nag-alinlangan ako kasi burado na yung logos at iba na yung finish ng cymbal. Sabi nung owner na hindi raw siya gumagamit ng "masamang chemical" na panglinis, so I just gave the benefit of a doubt. Hindi raw kasi siya sure kung metal polisher ba or what yung pinapanglinis niya, basta cleaner daw. However, to my disappointment, when I was on my way back home, that's when the owner texted and confirmed na metal polisher ang ginagamit niyang panglinis, to the point na sobrang burado na yung logos at weird na yung kulay nung cymbal, parang kulay bakal/aluminum na may rainbow effect, hindi na siya kulay yellowish/bronze. Nung tinesting ko sa bahay, iba yung tunog, mas "manipis" yung tunog niya. Pag hinampas mo medyo nafeefeel mo nga at naririnig na "iba" at "odd" na ang tunog niya. Buti nalang at nabenta ko na yung cymbal na iyon. :wink:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mambo on April 13, 2010, 11:59:17 PM

Quote from: omnicloud7 on April 13, 2010, 11:53:17 PM

From my experience, yes, metal polish will damage/affect your cymbal. I bought a cymbal last year, nung nakita ko na yung cymbal, medyo nag-alinlangan ako kasi burado na yung logos at iba na yung finish ng cymbal. Sabi nung owner na hindi raw siya gumagamit ng "masamang chemical" na panglinis, so I just gave the benefit of a doubt. Hindi raw kasi siya sure kung metal polisher ba or what yung pinapanglinis niya, basta cleaner daw. However, to my disappointment, when I was on my way back home, that's when the owner texted and confirmed na metal polisher ang ginagamit niyang panglinis, to the point na sobrang burado na yung logos at weird na yung kulay nung cymbal, parang kulay bakal/aluminum na may rainbow effect, hindi na siya kulay yellowish/bronze. Nung tinesting ko sa bahay, iba yung tunog, mas "manipis" yung tunog niya. Pag hinampas mo medyo nafeefeel mo nga at naririnig na "iba" at "odd" na ang tunog niya. Buti nalang at nabenta ko na yung cymbal na iyon. :wink:

aray! yun buti at may nakaexperience na nito! hehe so cymbal+metal polish=huhu

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on April 14, 2010, 12:41:17 AM

Quote from: mambo on April 13, 2010, 11:59:17 PM

aray! yun buti at may nakaexperience na nito! hehe so cymbal+metal polish=huhu

Yeahp! Kaya pag may binebenta sa classifieds na gusto ko, lagi ako nag-iinquire kung ano yung ginagamit na panglinis. Kahit hindi niya nililinis ayos lang, basta wag talaga nalagyan metal polisher. :wink:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: arien_drummer on April 16, 2010, 06:46:25 PM

kung may rust na ang hoops and lugs ko... as in yung rust na halatang halata na yung kalawang...... pwede pa bang gamitan ng oxalic acid para matanggal?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: otep on April 17, 2010, 12:28:36 AM

well i must say effective ang oxallic acid :) parang bagong chrome yung mga stands ko :) as in super kintab nice nice :) partida 200g lang nagamit ko sa isang balde.. tpos 6 na stand na pakintab ko..

just make sure na use a towel para punasan after mababad.. then another towel para mapolish :) nice nice.. will post pix later

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: otep on April 18, 2010, 02:47:53 PM

after using oxalic acid.. parang new chromed yung stands ko :)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_109UVE690NI/S8ql1zEBASI/AAAAAAAAAs8/8tHx8JBwSX4/s400/DSC_9748.JPG)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mambo on April 18, 2010, 05:30:31 PM

Quote from: otep on April 18, 2010, 02:47:53 PM

after using oxalic acid.. parang new chromed yung stands ko :)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_109UVE690NI/S8ql1zEBASI/AAAAAAAAAs8/8tHx8JBwSX4/s400/DSC_9748.JPG)

bagong bili? hehehe :lol: ayos!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: otep on April 19, 2010, 12:05:38 AM

^galing noh? nagulat nga din ako sa results.. napa wow ako :)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on April 19, 2010, 01:09:21 AM

Quote from: otep on April 18, 2010, 02:47:53 PM

after using oxalic acid.. parang new chromed yung stands ko :)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_109UVE690NI/S8ql1zEBASI/AAAAAAAAAs8/8tHx8JBwSX4/s400/DSC_9748.JPG)

astiiiiiiig! :lol: sir tanong lang po, tinanggal niyo po ba yung rubber parts? or nakababad talaga buong stand?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: otep on April 19, 2010, 10:05:46 PM

^ di na po.. binabad ko na lang as in buo..

meron pakong isang stand na super luma... haha ill put oxallic to the test haha

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: pmack on April 20, 2010, 11:41:05 AM

Quote from: otep on April 19, 2010, 10:05:46 PM

^ di na po.. binabad ko na lang as in buo..

meron pakong isang stand na super luma... haha ill put oxallic to the test haha

did you use gloves bro?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: otep on April 20, 2010, 09:03:40 PM

@sir pmack.. di naman.. kasi malaki yung balde ko tapos 200g lang ginamit ko.. so di xa ganun makati.. pero siguro kung marami yung solute na gagamitin precaution talaga yung gloves.. medyo diluted kasi nung tinignan ko yung balde

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: busog on April 23, 2010, 03:52:03 AM

AHA! ngayon lang ako nakabisita dito sa thread na ito. yun last na nabasa ko ata is yung sa COKE pa. nyahaha!

Ngayon may Oxalic na, mukang OK to ah.. dami good comments eh..

Makapag timpla nga din sa isang baso pampalinis ng intestine. :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: "cheaper than coke" hardware cleaner...
Post by: ChocoMani on April 23, 2010, 06:18:42 PM

Quote from: fouljan on April 21, 2007, 11:23:40 PM

mga sir,, share ku lang,, effective hardware cleaner.. IMO gudbye na sa mahal na "coke" as cleaner.. familiar ba kau sa "oxalic" or "oxallic"? ito ung mga naka pack na nabibili sa mga sari-sari store.. 2pesos per pack.. naka hilera sya sa mga tawas, tina at chlorine.. mura lang sya pero sobrang effective..

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1704.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1706.jpg)

mix mo lang sya sa water.. sakin sa gnito kalaking container, 10packs nilagay ku..

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1697.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1696.jpg)

eto ung hardware (stands) ku before,, nabili ku lang din d2 sa isang forumer.. (thnx to sir wilbert)

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1709.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1700.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1699.jpg)

tapos,, babad mo lang sa solution ng 4-6hours.. babad lang,, babad lang,, babad lang.........

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1697.jpg)

tapos ule,,, punasan mna sya ng tuyong basahan,, di mna kaylangan ng soap and water,,, basta i dry mna sya using dry cloth.... etu na ung nangyari...

(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1783.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1766.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_1708.jpg)

pogi na uli sla.... sana nakatulong..... aus!!!

sir ilang pack ng oxalic ang kelangan kung isang batcha ung gagamitin? :?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Marphie21 on June 12, 2010, 02:46:55 PM

Hello guys, i'm new to the forums. I haven't been really posting but i've been reading and visiting for a while.

Anyway, I am just wondering if there are any shops or places in the metro manila area where i can take my Double iron cobra for a complete maintenance. I've had it for 5 years but havent really taken very good care of it and there's rust appearing and dirt everywhere.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks :-)

-Marphie

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: unnailed on June 17, 2010, 03:26:33 PM

pano po tangalin yung parang libag sya sa peds (alloy)
na trinay ko po yung wd40, kaso pati yung paint natangal amp!
ilang mouths palang yung peds ko parang luma na...
hindi ko kasi nililinis ngayon ko lang na linis...

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: arien_drummer on June 30, 2010, 08:05:28 AM

Sa pagkakaalam ko, bro... Wala eh. just try cleaning it yourself. you can ask a couple of our forum members to help you out with that... :-D peace, bro

Quote from: Marphie21 on June 12, 2010, 02:46:55 PM

Hello guys, i'm new to the forums. I haven't been really posting but i've been reading and visiting for a while.

Anyway, I am just wondering if there are any shops or places in the metro manila area where i can take my Double iron cobra for a complete maintenance. I've had it for 5 years but havent really taken very good care of it and there's rust appearing and dirt everywhere.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks :-)

-Marphie

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: phelep on July 01, 2010, 10:25:33 AM

Quote from: otep on April 18, 2010, 02:47:53 PM

after using oxalic acid.. parang new chromed yung stands ko :)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_109UVE690NI/S8ql1zEBASI/AAAAAAAAAs8/8tHx8JBwSX4/s400/DSC_9748.JPG)

tagal ko nang hinahanap pano ko malinisan stand ko ng ganto kalinis haha
buti nalang nakita ko.. astig to! ang hirap pa naman mag linis ng stand kse may mga suluk sulok pa..
napupubpud daliri ko kaka lagay ng metal polish at kaka punas eh.. :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: rubbershoes on July 01, 2010, 07:57:00 PM

mukhang magiging busy ako bukas. :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: mr_strap on July 27, 2010, 09:18:10 PM

yun bang paglinis ng stands sa oxallic acid, ilulubog lahat? or tatanggalin mga screws, and rubbers...? thanks

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 27, 2010, 11:21:14 PM

Quote from: mr_strap on July 27, 2010, 09:18:10 PM

yun bang paglinis ng stands sa oxallic acid, ilulubog lahat? or tatanggalin mga screws, and rubbers...? thanks

lubog mo, depende din sa dami ng rust kung gaano katagal nakababad. sa akin nilubog ko more than 24 hours bago umayos.. :-)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: jcbska on July 27, 2010, 11:57:23 PM

wow.. ma test nga din ung oxalic acid,hehe.. wala ba syang side effects sa chrome?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 28, 2010, 09:02:47 AM

Quote from: jcbska on July 27, 2010, 11:57:23 PM

wow.. ma test nga din ung oxalic acid,hehe.. wala ba syang side effects sa chrome?

sa oxallic, yung rust minsan nangingitim kung matindi na yung pagkakapit niya sa hardware, mas advisable kung turco na lang gamitin since yung rust namumuti kaya hindi ganun kahalata sa chrome. pero depende pa din.. :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: vhinming on July 28, 2010, 10:53:34 AM

Quote from: Riff_66603 on July 28, 2010, 09:02:47 AM

sa oxallic, yung rust minsan nangingitim kung matindi na yung pagkakapit niya sa hardware, mas advisable kung turco na lang gamitin since yung rust namumuti kaya hindi ganun kahalata sa chrome. pero depende pa din.. :-D

yap another one,..

i test po yung sa isang chrome parts ng kit ko (noon)

nasobrahan ng 3 hours, so mga 8 hours sya nakababad,..

ayun naging pinkish fade sya,..
nawala yung kintab and namula ng konti,..

Take note: Wa-epek sa sabian 10" splash hehe!

yung cracked splash ko binabad ko din ng 8 hours,.. nag pink ng konti and nakakagulat after 1 week back 2 normal yung color,.. mysterious nga ehh :-o

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: boogerJR on July 29, 2010, 07:36:42 PM

Quote from: Riff_66603 on July 28, 2010, 09:02:47 AM

sa oxallic, yung rust minsan nangingitim kung matindi na yung pagkakapit niya sa hardware, mas advisable kung turco na lang gamitin since yung rust namumuti kaya hindi ganun kahalata sa chrome. pero depende pa din.. :-D

anu ung turco? hehe sorry noob :-o

napansin ko pearl ang hardware mo, sir. patok kaya sa sonor? parehas lang kaya ng metal? thanks!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 29, 2010, 09:05:59 PM

Quote from: kulangotjr on July 29, 2010, 07:36:42 PM

anu ung turco? hehe sorry noob :-o

napansin ko pearl ang hardware mo, sir. patok kaya sa sonor? parehas lang kaya ng metal? thanks!

rust converter yung turco, meron nun sa ace hardware mga around 125-130 php isang container nun.. pareho lang naman ang effects ng turco or oxallic either way kahit anong tatak ng hardware.. hehe, pareho lang naman kinakalawang din yun! cheers! :wink:

Title: Pano alagaan ang kit?
Post by: carleywarley on January 02, 2011, 02:06:09 PM

First time ko kasi magkaron ng sariling drum kit. Tanong ko lang kung pano niyo ba inaalagaan yung kit niyo? Kelangan bang linisin like twice or thrice a week? At may epekto ba sa sound pag hindi mo siya nililinis/pinupunasan?

Title: Re: Pano alagaan ang kit?
Post by: musicianurse28 on January 02, 2011, 03:12:24 PM

Welcome to Pinoydrums forum sir carleywarley! :-D

Sir ituring mong parang asawa yung kit mo. Garantisadong hahaba ang buhay nyan. Punas every after use is a big thing already. No need to mount or dismount Cymbals and Hardwares all the time. Hanggat maaari kung wala ka pa namang mga Cases, takpan mo na lang ng malaking Kumot ang asawa mo este yung buong kit mo pala. Ayaw naten maalikabukan yan.

Wag mo hahayaang mag-moist lang yung hardwares kung nasa air conditioned room ka, punas lang lagi katapat. Ayaw mo rin naman siguro sa kalawang di ba? Punas lang ulit lagi ang katapat nyan. As much as possible sana may Cymbal Polisher ka rin para malinis. Wag lang lalagyan ng polisher ang logos dahil mabubura ito. Mas magugustuhan mo rin yun dahil sa brightness at shine ng Cymbals. Note, magkaiba ang Basahang gagamitin sa kit at sa Cymbals at Hardwares.

All in all punas lang talaga ang katapat nyan :-D

Happy New Year and Happy Drumming sir!

Title: Re: Pano alagaan ang kit?
Post by: mr. trigger on January 02, 2011, 03:28:02 PM

punas lang ng punas pag katapos gamitin :wink:

Title: Re: Pano alagaan ang kit?
Post by: carleywarley on January 02, 2011, 03:37:00 PM

Maraming salamat musicianurse28 at mr. trigger! Pero,yung buong hardware ba recommended na punasan o yung drum heads lang? With alcohol or not? Hehe. Sorry rami kong tanong. Gusto ko lang i-ensure na magtatagal tong set na to. :)

Title: Re: Pano alagaan ang kit?
Post by: mr. trigger on January 02, 2011, 03:56:02 PM

Quote from: carleywarley on January 02, 2011, 03:37:00 PM

Maraming salamat musicianurse28 at mr. trigger! Pero,yung buong hardware ba recommended na punasan o yung drum heads lang? With alcohol or not? Hehe. Sorry rami kong tanong. Gusto ko lang i-ensure na magtatagal tong set na to. :)

ako kasi mapa cymbals .shells o hardware "wipeout" ang ginagamit ko e. epektib :-D
mura pa 50php lang sa hardware

Title: Re: Pano alagaan ang kit?
Post by: carleywarley on January 02, 2011, 04:03:06 PM

ano yan? pampakintab? try ko maghanap mamaya.

Title: Re: Pano alagaan ang kit?
Post by: musicianurse28 on January 02, 2011, 04:19:01 PM

Soft, Clean, Dry Cloth lang, without Alcohol :-D
Mas maganda kung buong hardware ang lilinisin kasi may mga small area dun na mahirap linisin baka mamaya makaligtaan naten eh hindi naten mamalayan may mga unwanted rust and dust na.
I use 4 different rugs. Isa sa mga Drum Shells, isa sa mga Hardwares, dalawa sa mga Cymbals for polishing purposes. Tas Laba lang pwede na ulit gamitin. :lol:
Pick a day, once a month dun ka mag general cleaning, as in buong set.
Kung masipag ka naman ser maglinis once a week is good enough :-)

Maganda rin pala gumamit ng mga oil for Pedals, either Bass drum pedal or Hi-hat stand.

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on January 21, 2011, 10:58:04 PM

Anu bang problema ng hats kapag di siya responsive...
I mean kapag inangat mo agad left foot mo di agad bubukas ang hihat...
Additional felts lang ba problem or sa height ng hi-hats ang problema???
Any information about this???

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: tyrande101 on January 21, 2011, 11:11:18 PM

Quote from: pedaldeaf3 on January 21, 2011, 10:58:04 PM

Anu bang problema ng hats kapag di siya responsive...
I mean kapag inangat mo agad left foot mo di agad bubukas ang hihat...
Additional felts lang ba problem or sa height ng hi-hats ang problema???
Any information about this???

IMO, sa mga locks and chains nyan may mga kala kalawang.. ako kc for once, nag clean ako ng mga internal ng mga stands, hindi nmn actually clean pero kasi, ginamitan ko sila ng WD-40, nag spray ako sa loob ng stand ng hi-hat, sa lock, sa chains tska sa mga screw.. para matanggal yung mga *squeaks*.. kasi feeling ko after 3 years, panigurado hindi ko lang naririnig pero marami ng squeak sa internal ng hi-hat stand ko.. at the end, ayun, ok naman sya.. na-feel ko agad yung result.. IMO lang naman..

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on January 22, 2011, 12:20:07 AM

Quote from: tyrande101 on January 21, 2011, 11:11:18 PM

IMO, sa mga locks and chains nyan may mga kala kalawang.. ako kc for once, nag clean ako ng mga internal ng mga stands, hindi nmn actually clean pero kasi, ginamitan ko sila ng WD-40, nag spray ako sa loob ng stand ng hi-hat, sa lock, sa chains tska sa mga screw.. para matanggal yung mga *squeaks*.. kasi feeling ko after 3 years, panigurado hindi ko lang naririnig pero marami ng squeak sa internal ng hi-hat stand ko.. at the end, ayun, ok naman sya.. na-feel ko agad yung result.. IMO lang naman..

Yup, kapag ako lang nag-prapraktis may "squeaks" akong naririnig...
So kalawang sa sa chains yun or pakinggan ko kung saan yung "squeaks" para malaman ko kung san ko lalagyan ng WD-40??? BTW thanks sa info... Nakakairita yung hi-hats eh... Hahaha...

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: tyrande101 on January 22, 2011, 12:41:20 AM

yes sir! lagyan mo na rin ng singer oil ung chain sa ilalim ng hi hat mo, my dagdag konting effect yan sa feel.. trabaho kc ng WD-40 alisin lahat ng corrosion na nagagawa ng rustiness.. pero hindi na nya maiaalis ang kulay ng kalawang na brown tska amoy nito, pero ung effect nya, yung pagiging sticky tsaka makunat, nai aalis nya.. :lol:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: thunder_god on January 29, 2011, 08:14:28 AM

I was asked to restore a whole set of 60-series HW from a Pearl Target series kit and a Fernando boom stand. Again, another success story using oxalic. Thanks to our fellow drummer/forummer 'fouljan' and to his mother who shared and suggested this idea to us.

The wonders of oxalic... :-D

(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012420112217.jpg)
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012420112216.jpg)
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012420112218.jpg)

Shinning shimmering splendid... :lol:
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012520112228.jpg)
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012520112231.jpg)
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012520112232.jpg)

Goodbye kalawang... :lol:
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012520112234.jpg)

Title: Re: Pano alagaan ang kit?
Post by: karl713 on January 29, 2011, 10:10:21 PM

Quote from: mr. trigger on January 02, 2011, 03:56:02 PM

ako kasi mapa cymbals .shells o hardware "wipeout" ang ginagamit ko e. epektib :-D
mura pa 50php lang sa hardware

masubukan nga yung wipe out sa kit ko.meron kasi dito eh.ginagamit nila kuya sa sasakyan.itry ko yan
bukas.hehe :-)

OT:mr.trigger hindi po ba nakakasira ng cymbals tong wipe out?
tnx

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: daleee on March 06, 2011, 08:26:41 PM

Quote from: SUPREME on March 06, 2011, 07:43:44 PM

cymbal cleaner pwde ba sa hardware? :mrgreen:

I don't thinki so, magkaiba kasi material na ginamit sa hardware at sa cymbals, and the cymbal cleaner is formulated based on the nedd to clean B20s, B8,... alloys.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: kelzkie on March 11, 2011, 12:05:09 PM

Quote from: thunder_god on January 29, 2011, 08:14:28 AM

I was asked to restore a whole set of 60-series HW from a Pearl Target series kit and a Fernando boom stand. Again, another success story using oxalic. Thanks to our fellow drummer/forummer 'fouljan' and to his mother who shared and suggested this idea to us.

The wonders of oxalic... :-D

(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012420112217.jpg)
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012420112216.jpg)
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012420112218.jpg)

Shinning shimmering splendid... :lol:
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012520112228.jpg)
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012520112231.jpg)
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012520112232.jpg)

Goodbye kalawang... :lol:
(http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq53/thundergod_phil/012520112234.jpg)

sinubukan ko to kahapon... same results as posted ni thunder_god..
thanx sa advice brod :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: numenorboy on May 25, 2011, 09:12:13 PM

Uhm, i don't know if this is the right place to ask this question. but here it goes. Recently i bought a cymbal set from my friend. some awesome sounding Meinls. When I looked under the ride cymbal, there's this *crack/scratch* thing. I don't know if it's a scratch or a crack kasi it didn't cut the cymbal naman; i mean, hindi visible ung *crack/scratch* sa top nung ride. it's like about a centimeter long. here are the pictures. hmmm what do you think?

This is under the ride:
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa175/isenboy/PIC_0001.jpg)

This is above the ride:
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa175/isenboy/PIC_0002.jpg)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: cristsuper on May 25, 2011, 10:27:49 PM

Quote from: numenorboy on May 25, 2011, 09:12:13 PM

Uhm, i don't know if this is the right place to ask this question. but here it goes. Recently i bought a cymbal set from my friend. some awesome sounding Meinls. When I looked under the ride cymbal, there's this *crack/scratch* thing. I don't know if it's a scratch or a crack kasi it didn't cut the cymbal naman; i mean, hindi visible ung *crack/scratch* sa top nung ride. it's like about a centimeter long. here are the pictures. hmmm what do you think?

This is under the ride:
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa175/isenboy/PIC_0001.jpg)

This is above the ride:
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa175/isenboy/PIC_0002.jpg)

dapat chi-neck mo muna kung my crack bago mo binili habang ginagamit mo yan hahaba yan hehe

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: numenorboy on May 25, 2011, 10:47:32 PM

Quote from: cristsuper on May 25, 2011, 10:27:49 PM

dapat chi-neck mo muna kung my crack bago mo binili habang ginagamit mo yan hahaba yan hehe

okay lang yan! i checked naman, i just want to know if it's a crack or a scratch =))) haha

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: jayball on June 01, 2011, 11:00:15 PM

Hi guys.

Just bought a Pearl Eliminator P2002C.

Just want to ask how to maintenance it..I mean General maintenance about the peds..

Thanks.

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: revelaxionz09 on August 14, 2011, 09:52:53 PM

ask ko lang mga sir kung paano ba tanggaling ang tornilyo sa drums pag may kalawang na? hirap ang higpit. may rinerestore kasi akong floor tom. pwede ba lagyan ng lubricant wala ba effect sa drum shell yon? TIA!

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: Riff_6603 on August 27, 2011, 06:34:02 AM

Quote from: jayball on June 01, 2011, 11:00:15 PM

Hi guys.

Just bought a Pearl Eliminator P2002C.

Just want to ask how to maintenance it..I mean General maintenance about the peds..

Thanks.

clean it after using to avoid dust from accumulating on the moving parts and always remember to oil up the moving parts to maintain smooth usage. :-)

Quote from: revelaxionz09 on August 14, 2011, 09:52:53 PM

ask ko lang mga sir kung paano ba tanggaling ang tornilyo sa drums pag may kalawang na? hirap ang higpit. may rinerestore kasi akong floor tom. pwede ba lagyan ng lubricant wala ba effect sa drum shell yon? TIA!

kung naka-wrap yung shell ok lang yun. kung lacquered etc, possible na magkaroon ng cosmetic effect sa finish. pero kung maingat ka naman sa paglagay ng lube hindi masyadong magiging problem yun. :wink:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Chipstah on December 13, 2011, 02:05:17 PM

Need help guys. My one year old Gretsch Cat Maple kit developed rusty screws inside the drums/shell, those that hold up the lugs. Did not play with the set for 3 mos.

Other hardware is fine. It was so rusty that the rust dust bounce around in the drum and collect either on the reso skin or, in the case of the base drum, on the shell. To make it worse, when I tried unscrewing the screw, the philips head could not get leverage. Had to use clamps.

So its past the mainenance stage. Would you know where I could buy the same screws?

Thanks!

Title: mod merge split
Post by: plitipiw40315 on December 15, 2011, 02:47:46 PM

teka mga bro para di masyadong OT, post ko lang pics ng kit ko,

linis mode.. :-P
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee179/plitipiw40315/DSC04317.jpg)

Quote from: glennaui on December 15, 2011, 02:32:17 PM

sige... pag nakaluwag dadaan ulit ako dun... hehehe...
Picturan ko yung site at mga samples... mabait yung may-ari... sakanya kasi kami nagpagawa ng canopy ng truck namin...

hehe, cge bro, magtanong ako ulit dito baka me bawas pa..

Quote from: blindedfox on December 15, 2011, 02:27:31 PM

Taga Vizcaya pala kau mga bro?

taga ISABELA kami pareho bro ni kapatid na glennaui, ako from santiago city sya from cordon.. :-D

Title: Re: mod merge split
Post by: glennaui on December 15, 2011, 05:47:28 PM

Quote from: plitipiw40315 on December 15, 2011, 02:47:46 PM

teka mga bro para di masyadong OT, post ko lang pics ng kit ko,

linis mode.. :-P
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee179/plitipiw40315/DSC04317.jpg)

hehe, cge bro, magtanong ako ulit dito baka me bawas pa..

taga ISABELA kami pareho bro ni kapatid na glennaui, ako from santiago city sya from cordon.. :-D

bro whats the green thingy na nakalagay sa Floor tom mo? Parang Moongel ba?

Title: Re: mod merge split
Post by: NATSBRATS on December 16, 2011, 12:10:01 AM

Quote from: glennaui on December 15, 2011, 05:47:28 PM

bro whats the green thingy na nakalagay sa Floor tom mo? Parang Moongel ba?

I think thats a double sided tape. Takip lang yung green.... :)

Title: Re: mod merge split
Post by: pejadanza on December 16, 2011, 12:53:32 AM

Quote from: plitipiw40315 on December 15, 2011, 02:47:46 PM

teka mga bro para di masyadong OT, post ko lang pics ng kit ko,

linis mode.. :-P
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee179/plitipiw40315/DSC04317.jpg)

hehe, cge bro, magtanong ako ulit dito baka me bawas pa..

taga ISABELA kami pareho bro ni kapatid na glennaui, ako from santiago city sya from cordon.. :-D

ang kinis bro!!! 5 stars!!!!!

Title: Re: mod merge split
Post by: plitipiw40315 on December 16, 2011, 08:08:51 AM

Quote from: glennaui on December 15, 2011, 05:47:28 PM

bro whats the green thingy na nakalagay sa Floor tom mo? Parang Moongel ba?

tama si NATSBRATS bro, double sided tape yun na may foam thingy..hehehe, does the job of moongel for me.

Quote from: pejadanza on December 16, 2011, 12:53:32 AM

ang kinis bro!!! 5 stars!!!!!

alagang pledge yan bro.. :lol:

Title: Re: mod merge split
Post by: glennaui on December 16, 2011, 08:39:53 AM

Quote from: plitipiw40315 on December 16, 2011, 08:08:51 AM

tama si NATSBRATS bro, double sided tape yun na may foam thingy..hehehe, does the job of moongel for me.

alagang pledge yan bro.. :lol:

Nice improvise... I like that... hehehe... salamat sa Idea

Title: Re: mod merge split
Post by: NATSBRATS on December 16, 2011, 07:20:41 PM

is it safe to use pledge cleaner sa kit mga sirs? saka may rusts sa hoops ko ok ba wd40 yung gamitin ko pangtanggal ng kalawang?

Title: Re: mod merge split
Post by: plitipiw40315 on December 16, 2011, 07:30:46 PM

Quote from: NATSBRATS on December 16, 2011, 07:20:41 PM

is it safe to use pledge cleaner sa kit mga sirs? saka may rusts sa hoops ko ok ba wd40 yung gamitin ko pangtanggal ng kalawang?

ganito gamit ko bro, w/ anti dust features, :-P
(http://www.officewarehouse.com.ph/image/cache/Pledge%2011075-500x500.jpg)

gretsch catalina maple yung kit ko bro, wala namang bad effects til now, kaya din nyang tanggalin yung mga namumuong rust sa hoops., tatlong klaseng basahan gamit ko, 2 cotton cloth, (yung isa pang apply, yung isa naman pang punas ng excess) at isang pang buff .. :)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: fujimotojohn on December 20, 2011, 12:27:28 AM

bro ! :) try mo sa lazer ! :D madami dung mga parts , baka may mahanap ka na sakto sa drumset mo :O

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: sanjaia on December 30, 2011, 11:26:30 AM

mga sirs, i need help, meron ba kayo advise para ma restore ko drum kit ko? I have a rock star tama kit, corroded na mga slags. i want to restore sana matagal na rin kaming magkasma nito eh may sentimental na. any advise kung saan ako makakakita ng mga parts or kung saan makaka-order? thanks .. more power :?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: iplaydrums4u on July 23, 2012, 12:29:33 AM

tanong lang . may nakabasa o nakarinig na ba dito na magaling daw maglinis ng rusty hardware (lalo na tension rods) ang vinegar?
pero may gagawin pa ata pagtapos ibabad, ineuneutralize daw para maiwasang kalawangin ulit. sino nakatry na nito?

Title: Motor oil.............
Post by: NATSBRATS on August 29, 2012, 10:27:12 AM

I'm thinking about motor oil as a lubricant on my drum pedal.... Ok ba yun mga sirs? What are you thoughts regarding this idea? Tapos change oil every 3 mos or 5,000 kms (joke) hehe... :P

Title: Re: Motor oil.............
Post by: kimboy on August 29, 2012, 12:19:01 PM

ok lang yan sir basta punasan mo nalang after para maalis yung excess oils para hindi madumi at magtalsikan kapag ginagamit mo na.. thanks

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Boggie on September 30, 2012, 06:44:28 PM

Mga sir. Tanong ko lang po bakit yung snare wires ko parang loose? Parang tom yung sound ng snare ko? Beginner palamg po kasi ako. Need help po. Thanks.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: yeahjo90 on October 01, 2012, 08:45:15 PM

Quote from: Boggie on September 30, 2012, 06:44:28 PM

Mga sir. Tanong ko lang po bakit yung snare wires ko parang loose? Parang tom yung sound ng snare ko? Beginner palamg po kasi ako. Need help po. Thanks.

Baka laspag na yung snare wires mo.

Bago lang ba yang snare mo or matagal na?

Kung matagal na, malamang laspag na nga, at kailangan mo ng palitan ng bagong snare wires.

Kung bago pa naman, pero loose, baka maluwag lang yung wires, try mong i-tighten ung wires sa strainer/throw-off.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: ken minneman on October 02, 2012, 06:28:07 AM

I think I got this info here.. Sobrang laking tulong nito..

http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?204584-The-Truth-about-WD-40-and-pedals

just wondering,.. wala kasi ako makitang PTFE sa Ace tsaka sa DIY shop.. may specific brandname ba to?

Ang binili ko is 4D Metal Lubricant. parang ganto http://chainstore.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/hardex-4d-penetrant-lubricant-spray/

May mabibilhan nga kaya ng PTFE sa pinas???

Title: HELP...What cleaning agent can be use to clean my Yamaha steel snare
Post by: staypuft on November 21, 2012, 12:28:56 PM

Good day mga bro at masters patulong naman kung ano magandang pang linis ng Yamaha steel snare ko at sa Yamaha bass drum at toms ko di ko kase alam kung anong kind ng wood mga ito. Ito yung mga pictures mga sir..Salamat :)

note:

di ko kase alam din kung anong series ng yamaha sya

Yamaha Steel snare 10 lugs
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o501/darthmykel/drums/DSC_0115.jpg)
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o501/darthmykel/drums/DSC_0106.jpg)

Yamaha bass drum and toms
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o501/darthmykel/drums/DSC_0117.jpg)
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o501/darthmykel/drums/DSC_0118.jpg)
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o501/darthmykel/drums/DSC_0119.jpg)

Title: Re: HELP...What cleaning agent can be use to clean my Yamaha steel snare
Post by: karlwilson on November 21, 2012, 01:03:20 PM

sa wood part try mo Pledge wood..sa steel snare ibabad mo sa pure oxalic(orig) solution. :-D

Title: Re: HELP...What cleaning agent can be use to clean my Yamaha steel snare
Post by: staypuft on November 21, 2012, 01:30:44 PM

Quote from: karlwilson on November 21, 2012, 01:03:20 PM

sa wood part try mo Pledge wood..sa steel snare ibabad mo sa pure oxalic(orig) solution. :-D

thanks sa reply bro. nasabi na din ng friend ko na pledge gamitin sa wood kaso wala pa ko nababasa na nakpag try nun..natatakot ako masira or lumambot yung wood =(

Title: Re: HELP...What cleaning agent can be use to clean my Yamaha steel snare
Post by: pmack on November 21, 2012, 03:23:44 PM

Nagamit ko na yung Pledge sa kit ko. okay siya. and even after weeks hindi kumakapit yung alikabok, isang pasada lang ng dry na basahan naglalag-lagan agad lahat.

ingat lang, sa pag-apply ng pledge, wag masyado makapal o yung nagmimilamil na yung basahan na pang-pahid mo.

Title: Re: HELP...What cleaning agent can be use to clean my Yamaha steel snare
Post by: staypuft on November 22, 2012, 05:52:44 PM

Quote from: pmack on November 21, 2012, 03:23:44 PM

Nagamit ko na yung Pledge sa kit ko. okay siya. and even after weeks hindi kumakapit yung alikabok, isang pasada lang ng dry na basahan naglalag-lagan agad lahat.

ingat lang, sa pag-apply ng pledge, wag masyado makapal o yung nagmimilamil na yung basahan na pang-pahid mo.

Thanks sa reply bro.. will try this week end

Title: Looking who can fix / modify drumset
Post by: mike24 on January 10, 2013, 02:23:34 PM

Just wanted to ask if you know some person who can
Chrome / paint / fix drum set? Medyo kalawang na din

Thank you

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonuhj on January 13, 2013, 12:10:16 PM

ask ko lang po kung san nabibili oxalic acid?tnx

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on January 13, 2013, 06:02:25 PM

Quote from: sonuhj on January 13, 2013, 12:10:16 PM

ask ko lang po kung san nabibili oxalic acid?tnx

sa palengke or supermarkets marami. check mo sa may laundry sections banda, yun yung mukhang tawas.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonuhj on January 14, 2013, 11:47:07 AM

thanks Riff _6603 ..
nakabili na ko sa mercury drug 500 grams for 109p ..

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: rusko7 on April 09, 2013, 07:52:07 AM

Good Day!

Hingi lang po ako ng tip or advise kung pano po lilinisin yung rust sa bearing ng pedal ko. Sa kwarto lang po ako nagpapractice at 8 months old pa lang yung pedal ko.

Thanks!

(http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt240/Trifrey/1600-HP910LS_detail9_1.jpg)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: iplaydrums4u on April 15, 2013, 06:09:46 PM

hi guys, im planning to clean my steel snare using oxalic acid, ill post pics here kapag natapos ko na, pero safe kaya ito? naisip ko lang since mostly steel din naman ang lugs, pareho lang ang effect diba? anyway, babad ko muna for 4 hours initially tapos tignan ko maging resulta.

tanong lang, anong dapat gawin after ibabad at idry? kailangan pa ba talaga ng wd 40? o kahit soap and water na lang? o pwedeng wala nang ilagay pagkatapos ibabad? salamat :D

Title: Re: RAON Drum Music Stores thread
Post by: iplaydrums4u on May 03, 2013, 11:13:15 PM

Quote from: Yo on May 03, 2013, 08:53:36 PM

May mga rust na nga pala yung mga ibang screw... masiisira ba yun? ano ba ng gamit nyong pang remove ng rust sa drumset.

Thanks again!

next week ang pix

:) :-D :-)

try oxalic acid. babad lang tapos punas. meron in powder form (hahalo mo sa tubig) sa mercury drug. ingat lang kasi its TOXIC :)

Title: Re: Re: RAON Drum Music Stores thread
Post by: Yo on May 04, 2013, 11:50:26 AM

Quote from: iplaydrums4u on May 03, 2013, 11:13:15 PM

try oxalic acid. babad lang tapos punas. meron in powder form (hahalo mo sa tubig) sa mercury drug. ingat lang kasi its TOXIC :)

Ano yung bababad yung mga screws lang ohh yung buong tom? baka naman masira yun drums ko? tested na ba yan?

Thanks :) :-D :-) :-o :wave: :? :wink: :lol: :oops:

Title: Re: Re: RAON Drum Music Stores thread
Post by: iplaydrums4u on May 04, 2013, 12:36:04 PM

Quote from: Yo on May 04, 2013, 11:50:26 AM

Ano yung bababad yung mga screws lang ohh yung buong tom? baka naman masira yun drums ko? tested na ba yan?

Thanks :) :-D :-) :-o :wave: :? :wink: :lol: :oops:

siempre sir metal parts lang , effective rust remover siya.

*sorry OT na yata to :D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: The Last String Bender on June 02, 2013, 10:21:31 AM

For stainless and hard wares... I used this to remove corrosion and light rust and it's really awesome... http://www.lastotallyawesome.com/html/Products_Household_CLRC.html

Nabili ko siya sa Japan products store...

I used it to remove the rust and corrosion then used WD40 to clean, restore and protect from dirt and rust... for heavy rust, I used rubbing compound...

Maganda din ang WD40 sa pag recondition ng wood mismo...

This is the set that I reconditioned... it is unused but was stocked for more than 10 years...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/snakepit42/282864_10151968255368677_7495749_n_zps98813e94.jpg)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: dingdong_jigolo on June 06, 2013, 03:17:03 PM

Quote from: The Last String Bender on June 02, 2013, 10:21:31 AM

I used it to remove the rust and corrosion then used WD40 to clean, restore and protect from dirt and rust... for heavy rust, I used rubbing compound...

Maganda din ang WD40 sa pag recondition ng wood mismo...

Hindi po ba, mejo may kakaibang amoy ang WD40? I tried it, pero parang may masangsang na amoy siya after ko linisin yung mga drum hardwares eh.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: peeves24 on June 06, 2013, 04:04:37 PM

because its main component is fish oil

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: vhinming on July 31, 2013, 12:45:35 AM

madami na din yata nakaaalam , try nyo oxalic acid! per sachet un 10 petot lang isang sachet, sa isang balde 2 sachet ok na, maaalis mga kalawang babad lang 5-6hours oks na :) :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: cokeandjahsmoke on August 04, 2013, 01:56:33 PM

Quote from: vhinming on July 31, 2013, 12:45:35 AM

madami na din yata nakaaalam , try nyo oxalic acid! per sachet un 10 petot lang isang sachet, sa isang balde 2 sachet ok na, maaalis mga kalawang babad lang 5-6hours oks na :) :mrgreen:

tanong lng sir, pag ginamit ba yung oxalic sa mga tension rods, advisable din ba yun? plan ko kasi after recording namin lilinisin ko yung kit ko eh di pa naman heavy yung kalawang..

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: lockedonstratos on August 23, 2013, 09:18:42 PM

ask lang po. safe po ba to gamitin sa drumset (finish)?
(http://www.personalcareproducts.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/90584-9.jpg)

kasi po pledge talaga yung dapat bibilin. pero ito yung ibinigay :| Btw eto yung kit

(http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o365/anacleto345/dddd_zps5285a960.jpg)

nagaalangan pa po i-apply. first kit ko po kasi to :D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: reinramirez on September 11, 2013, 08:47:37 AM

lumalangitngit yung pedals ko ano ba pwede gamitin dun wd40 din?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: lockedonstratos on September 16, 2013, 03:05:06 PM

Quote from: reinramirez on September 11, 2013, 08:47:37 AM

lumalangitngit yung pedals ko ano ba pwede gamitin dun wd40 din?

cleaner daw po talaga yung WD40. depende po kung gusto nyo gamitin ok lang
pero ang gamit ko saka mga kilala kong drummer, "singer oil". yung ginagamit sa barber shop? XD
tingin ko mas ok na pang lubricate ng drums yun.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: reinramirez on September 16, 2013, 04:10:37 PM

Quote

cleaner daw po talaga yung WD40. depende po kung gusto nyo gamitin ok lang
pero ang gamit ko saka mga kilala kong drummer, "singer oil". yung ginagamit sa barber shop? XD
tingin ko mas ok na pang lubricate ng drums yun.

ahh, salamat chif, try ko muna wd40 pag ganun padin lagyan ko ng singer oil, wala naman siguro matutunaw na plastic sa avenger 2

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: jay6ixx on October 01, 2013, 11:23:38 AM

Para sa mga hinges or bearings na kelangan i-lubricate, nabasa ko sa ibang forums na white lithium grease ang gamitin. meron sha in spraycans.

Ginagamit ko siya sa pedals ko and it does the job. :)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sir_db on July 11, 2014, 12:46:51 PM

salamat sa mga info... oxallic! nice2... hehe rakenrol to the world!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 11, 2014, 10:31:59 PM

good! nakita mo din bro ung sinabi ko! hehe,balitaan mo kami ha. :wave:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sir_db on July 14, 2014, 11:42:32 PM

cgeh picturan ko rin... pero di kopa maasikaso eh... kailangan ko munang maiuwi sa pampanga ung mga nabili kong stands, sabay2 kong lilinisin...hehe salamat talaga...

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 15, 2014, 12:23:44 PM

Quote from: sir_db on July 14, 2014, 11:42:32 PM

cgeh picturan ko rin... pero di kopa maasikaso eh... kailangan ko munang maiuwi sa pampanga ung mga nabili kong stands, sabay2 kong lilinisin...hehe salamat talaga...

Oks sir! Para May before and after pics! Aantayin namin yan. ^-^

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 15, 2014, 03:10:52 PM

My tom mount ball joints (Yamaha) dont really hold my toms. They sag and give in to gravity. How do I fix this?
I'm pretty uch afraid of disassembling the ball joint mechanism

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 15, 2014, 08:55:37 PM

Quote from: sonicassault on July 15, 2014, 03:10:52 PM

My tom mount ball joints (Yamaha) dont really hold my toms. They sag and give in to gravity. How do I fix this?
I'm pretty uch afraid of disassembling the ball joint mechanism

Sakit yan ng Yamaha,even the beech absolute in my work have this problem.
The solution is get a new joints sad to say,I tried to open it pero un nga basag na
Yung plastic ball sa loob,so I can't do anything about it,I hate ball type joints.
You try to contact vhinming here,he got my ball type joint snare stand.he replaced
The plastic ball with a metal ball! Aha ha.that's the solution I see

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 16, 2014, 05:40:57 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on July 15, 2014, 08:55:37 PM

Sakit yan ng Yamaha,even the beech absolute in my work have this problem.
The solution is get a new joints sad to say,I tried to open it pero un nga basag na
Yung plastic ball sa loob,so I can't do anything about it,I hate ball type joints.
You try to contact vhinming here,he got my ball type joint snare stand.he replaced
The plastic ball with a metal ball! Aha ha.that's the solution I see

I was wondering if I can fit a Pearl style mount on it? Di rin ako masyado can ng L mounts, but that's just me. I'm thinking I might have to drill new holes for that though.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 18, 2014, 09:56:19 AM

Just check some L mounts and bring your mount as well,pag pumunta Ka jb or Kung San man para macheck mo.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 18, 2014, 10:16:52 AM

Quote from: harugrugrug on July 18, 2014, 09:56:19 AM

Just check some L mounts and bring your mount as well,pag pumunta Ka jb or Kung San man para macheck mo.

sir di po ba ball joint din ang L-rod mounts? o may version na hindi ball joint?
baka lang kasi magsuffer sya ng same problems sa yamaha mounts, sayang effort ba.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 18, 2014, 10:27:10 AM

L mount bro,teka pm kita

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: zwischenzug on July 18, 2014, 11:39:17 AM

Ok ba ang carnauba wax panglinis sa shells and hardware?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 18, 2014, 12:06:53 PM

Quote from: zwischenzug on July 18, 2014, 11:39:17 AM

Ok ba ang carnauba wax panglinis sa shells and hardware?

If you have wrapped shells, I think it'd be useless coz well, vinyl. If it's natural finish, I think it'll work, it doesn't seem to have a bad effect.
Sa hardware naman may nagsabi sakin once glass cleaner daw, haven't tried that though.
Pledge kaya pwede sa shells? Amoy orange pa yun! mmmmmmm. ^-^

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on July 18, 2014, 11:34:47 PM

Oks sakin pledge,ahaha,pero meron daw yung panlinis ng motor,lobo ba yun? Pero dude ako,
Stick to pranella na lang ako,ahaha

Title: what do you guys clean your pedal/hardware with?
Post by: infernal.battery on August 06, 2014, 09:05:08 AM

what do you guys clean your pedal/hardware with?

Title: Re: what do you guys clean your pedal/hardware with?
Post by: sonicassault on August 06, 2014, 10:39:20 AM

A good quality dry paintbrush (the ones with really furry ends) for dusting.
Damp cloth then dry immediately with a clean, dry one.
Can't say much about chain maintenance coz the one I have is strap driven.
I don't really bother polishing though.

Title: Re: what do you guys clean your pedal/hardware with?
Post by: harugrugrug on August 06, 2014, 12:05:04 PM

It depends on the situation. :-D

I used metal polish to clean up my demon drive,
I used pranella for everything and also feather duster.
For really dirty hardwares like stands with rust I use oxalic acid(pls back read hardware maintainance thread)
Some use coke also,and I found it a little sticky,hehe

Title: Re: what do you guys clean your pedal/hardware with?
Post by: sonicassault on August 06, 2014, 12:18:14 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on August 06, 2014, 12:05:04 PM

It depends on the situation. :-D

I used metal polish to clean up my demon drive,
I used pranella for everything and also feather duster.
For really dirty hardwares like stands with rust I use oxalic acid(pls back read hardware maintainance thread)
Some use coke also,and I found it a little sticky,hehe

Coke zero brad, walang sugar :)) Pag wala, Pepsi Light, mas masarap.
I don't use pranela anymore, lint everywhere! Gamit ko yung bilog na trapo.

Title: Re: what do you guys clean your pedal/hardware with?
Post by: harugrugrug on August 06, 2014, 02:17:23 PM

Haha! Talaga brad? Coke zero? Di ba nakakacancer daw yun,hehe
Joke pero mas effective yun? Ayus yun ha,pranella ako,di maganda pagkagawa
Ng Basahan dito na nilalako,ang liliit,hehe

Title: Re: what do you guys clean your pedal/hardware with?
Post by: inigo on August 06, 2014, 03:47:24 PM

Moist bilog na trapo for dusting.
Bilog na trapo + WD40 to finish.

Title: Re: what do you guys clean your pedal/hardware with?
Post by: sonicassault on August 06, 2014, 04:57:27 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on August 06, 2014, 02:17:23 PM

Haha! Talaga brad? Coke zero? Di ba nakakacancer daw yun,hehe
Joke pero mas effective yun? Ayus yun ha,pranella ako,di maganda pagkagawa
Ng Basahan dito na nilalako,ang liliit,hehe

ewan ko lang kung mas effective, pero kung coke na rin lang gagamitin mo, mag-Zero ka na kasi walang sugar/corn syrup so di na malagkit :))
Di nakakacancer yun, so far. Pero kung phenylketonuric ka, magdedegrade yung utak mo dahil dun sa aspartame. Yung sucralose daw may isang study na nakaka cancer nga. Splenda ang most common brand.
Dayo ka sa ibang bayan/probinsya baka mas malaki yung trapo dun :lol:

Title: Re: what do you guys clean your pedal/hardware with?
Post by: harugrugrug on August 06, 2014, 08:36:00 PM

Haha,mejo mainstream kasi samin traps kaya nawala quality,hehe,masubukan nga coke zero.hehe
Bro inigo yan din ang Gawain ko hehe.

Title: Re: what do you guys clean your pedal/hardware with?
Post by: peeves24 on August 07, 2014, 08:54:21 AM

moist chamois

easiest way to clean your drum finish and remove fingerprints on any surface

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: infernal.battery on August 08, 2014, 12:35:00 PM

iaaply yung coke zero mismo? panu yun master?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on August 08, 2014, 10:28:01 PM

Babad mo yung mga lugs mo dun na hardware tapos aluminum foil for kaskas
O mas maganda oxalic acid,mag back read Ka. :)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: smurssshhh on August 15, 2014, 08:30:13 AM

Coke or metal polish?mejo may minimal oxidation(if thats the term) nrn ung sa hoops at konti sa lugs.here's the pic.

(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww339/RustMemBer/Mobile%20Uploads/received_m_mid_1406812147828_f873b0974cd5118a43_0.jpeg) (http://s733.photobucket.com/user/RustMemBer/media/Mobile%20Uploads/received_m_mid_1406812147828_f873b0974cd5118a43_0.jpeg.html)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on August 15, 2014, 10:24:30 AM

Nice snare! Hehe. May green gunk ba? Kung wala metal polish na lang at tyagaan na kaskas.

Eto Kung metal polish at eto lang dumi.before and after
Thanks to peeves for the suggestion. :mrgreen:
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b605/harugrugrug/6c33c1e0f14cd3b77eaaf276f039716e_zps2fac13cc.jpg)
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b605/harugrugrug/cbc4f3a26ab6ac80054f9d7fe7703720_zps1d064a3e.jpg)
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b605/harugrugrug/85fbd15f1a5c020854ef0522ae277f66_zpse4c97626.jpg)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: smurssshhh on August 15, 2014, 12:07:23 PM

Thank you sir..wala naman pong ganun.hehe sakto may autosol metal polish dto. :-D

Ayunoh! Very clean DD.sarap sa paa lalo pagmalinis.hehehe :razz:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: smurssshhh on August 15, 2014, 03:22:29 PM

Here it is all clean and shiny. :-D

(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww339/RustMemBer/Mobile%20Uploads/20140815_143845.jpg) (http://s733.photobucket.com/user/RustMemBer/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140815_143845.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on August 15, 2014, 10:22:13 PM

Quote from: smurssshhh on August 15, 2014, 03:22:29 PM

Here it is all clean and shiny. :-D

(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww339/RustMemBer/Mobile%20Uploads/20140815_143845.jpg) (http://s733.photobucket.com/user/RustMemBer/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140815_143845.jpg.html)

Nice! Pasadahan mo na lang pranella yan after use at Kung isstore mo,hehe. :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on August 18, 2014, 09:05:26 AM

What's a good way to get the rust off the nuts, bolts, and washers that attach the lugs to the drum? I just finished repainting my 12" tom but I don't want to reassemble it yet coz all the said parts are really rusty. Mukhang Mars :| .

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on August 18, 2014, 09:10:58 AM

Ziplock ang soak it with wd40 for a few days,that would do,pero Kung Kung gusto mo mabilisan e
Oxalic acid,in small amount lang,few hours e Oks na yan. ^-^

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on August 18, 2014, 09:41:09 AM

Quote from: harugrugrug on August 18, 2014, 09:10:58 AM

Ziplock ang soak it with wd40 for a few days,that would do,pero Kung Kung gusto mo mabilisan e
Oxalic acid,in small amount lang,few hours e Oks na yan. ^-^

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: G-Force on September 22, 2014, 12:10:34 PM

Quote from: smurssshhh on August 15, 2014, 03:22:29 PM

Here it is all clean and shiny. :-D

(http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww339/RustMemBer/Mobile%20Uploads/20140815_143845.jpg) (http://s733.photobucket.com/user/RustMemBer/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140815_143845.jpg.html)

oh wow! great job!

and to preserve your hardwork (and your now-like-brand-new snare), try applying a sealant bro.
you can apply Microtex Nanosil (meron in sachets) sa Ace hardware.

it prolongs the "shine" by giving it a protective seal :wink:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on September 22, 2014, 01:43:39 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on August 18, 2014, 09:10:58 AM

Ziplock ang soak it with wd40 for a few days,that would do,pero Kung Kung gusto mo mabilisan e
Oxalic acid,in small amount lang,few hours e Oks na yan. ^-^

bumili na lang ako ng Gibraltar lug screws :lol: pero kailangan ko pa rin linisin yung screws para sa mount. at least less effort :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on September 22, 2014, 02:34:32 PM

Quote from: sonicassault on September 22, 2014, 01:43:39 PM

bumili na lang ako ng Gibraltar lug screws :lol: pero kailangan ko pa rin linisin yung screws para sa mount. at least less effort :-D

Hehe,ako nga ioxalic ko na Lang yung dw pedal screws,hehe,pero tsaka na,order pako spare parts.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on September 22, 2014, 02:40:01 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on September 22, 2014, 02:34:32 PM

Hehe,ako nga ioxalic ko na Lang yung dw pedal screws,hehe,pero tsaka na,order pako spare parts.

iniisip ko kung yung Barkeeper's Friend mas ok bilhin, kasi para syang yung powder cleaner na parang Zim pero may oxalic acid. Ibababad ko yung screws sa solution. Naisip ko lang kasi sayang naman pwede ko na pakintabin lahat ng hardware ng drumset ko, kasama na yung buong banyo ko! :lol:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on September 22, 2014, 07:02:26 PM

Quote from: sonicassault on September 22, 2014, 02:40:01 PM

iniisip ko kung yung Barkeeper's Friend mas ok bilhin, kasi para syang yung powder cleaner na parang Zim pero may oxalic acid. Ibababad ko yung screws sa solution. Naisip ko lang kasi sayang naman pwede ko na pakintabin lahat ng hardware ng drumset ko, kasama na yung buong banyo ko! :lol:

Hahaha! Matry nga ito,San nakakabili paps?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on September 22, 2014, 07:23:31 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on September 22, 2014, 07:02:26 PM

Hahaha! Matry nga ito,San nakakabili paps?

Meron ako nakita sa Galleria, sa Handyman, sa tabi ng metal polish. Hindi sya popular na brand dito sa pinas kaya konti lang yung stock (less than 10 ang nakita ko). Mga P250++ per can. Pang metal, glass, countertop, etc. Yung lagi sinasabi sa Drummerworld forums na wag na wag mo gagamitin sa cymbals mo :lol:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on September 22, 2014, 09:09:08 PM

Quote from: sonicassault on September 22, 2014, 07:23:31 PM

Meron ako nakita sa Galleria, sa Handyman, sa tabi ng metal polish. Hindi sya popular na brand dito sa pinas kaya konti lang yung stock (less than 10 ang nakita ko). Mga P250++ per can. Pang metal, glass, countertop, etc. Yung lagi sinasabi sa Drummerworld forums na wag na wag mo gagamitin sa cymbals mo :lol:

hanap nalang ako sa ace hardware or sa true value,walang handyman malapit dito samin paps. :cry:
salamat!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: queer_rocker on September 23, 2014, 12:34:18 PM

i use microfibre cloth and wd40

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on September 23, 2014, 01:06:00 PM

Quote from: queer_rocker on September 23, 2014, 12:34:18 PM

i use microfibre cloth and wd40

And lots of elbow grease in my case,hehe. :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: NATSBRATS on October 03, 2014, 09:58:35 PM

safe ba gamitin ang rust converter sa pag-alis ng kalawang sa hardware?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on October 03, 2014, 11:18:17 PM

Quote from: NATSBRATS on October 03, 2014, 09:58:35 PM

safe ba gamitin ang rust converter sa pag-alis ng kalawang sa hardware?

Alam ko mahabang process yAn,never tried it though,oxalic ako kasi tsaka wd40
Gumamit ako turbo rust remover,walang nangyari.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: NATSBRATS on October 04, 2014, 06:42:45 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on October 03, 2014, 11:18:17 PM

Alam ko mahabang process yAn,never tried it though,oxalic ako kasi tsaka wd40
Gumamit ako turbo rust remover,walang nangyari.

pano gumamit nung oxalic acid sir?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: G-Force on October 06, 2014, 02:17:14 AM

Quote from: NATSBRATS on October 03, 2014, 09:58:35 PM

safe ba gamitin ang rust converter sa pag-alis ng kalawang sa hardware?

i tried that before... from what i've experienced, okay naman basta wag mo lang patatagalin yung chemical, once na na-convert na yung rust, wipe it off na agad.
cos napansin ko parang ina-attack niya yung "good" part and parang nangungupas pag tumagal yung chemical.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: buffet on October 22, 2014, 06:53:23 AM

i can't seem to find oxalic acid. i've looked in mercury and supermarkets pero wala ako makita. can you name a place na meron oxalic acid? near antipolo area or libis qc area. thanks!!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on October 22, 2014, 08:41:25 AM

Quote from: buffet on October 22, 2014, 06:53:23 AM

i can't seem to find oxalic acid. i've looked in mercury and supermarkets pero wala ako makita. can you name a place na meron oxalic acid? near antipolo area or libis qc area. thanks!!

sa Handyman or Ace Hardware :) or kahit anong hardware/construction store :) try mo sa RP Antipolo (wow bagong bukas!) kung may handyman :)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on October 22, 2014, 12:03:06 PM

Handyman endorser Ka sonicassault paps,hehe.
Sa Mercury ako nakakuha ng oxalic,gamble nga Lang yun e nagbakasakali ako.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on October 22, 2014, 12:09:21 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on October 22, 2014, 12:03:06 PM

Handyman endorser Ka sonicassault paps,hehe.
Sa Mercury ako nakakuha ng oxalic,gamble nga Lang yun e nagbakasakali ako.

di kasi ako pumapasok ng SM, lagi matao! :lol:
OT: bakit may oxalic acid sa mercury? ginagamit na gamot din ba yun?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on October 22, 2014, 09:38:29 PM

Quote from: sonicassault on October 22, 2014, 12:09:21 PM

di kasi ako pumapasok ng SM, lagi matao! :lol:
OT: bakit may oxalic acid sa mercury? ginagamit na gamot din ba yun?

Hehe,kaya pala makahandyman Ka,haha,over the counter nga oxalic paps
Tapos naka package siya na parang isang kilo ng asukal,mapagkamalam mo,hehe
Di ko alam kung bat may oxalic dun,hehe.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: buffet on October 23, 2014, 07:47:50 AM

Quote from: sonicassault on October 22, 2014, 08:41:25 AM

sa Handyman or Ace Hardware :) or kahit anong hardware/construction store :) try mo sa RP Antipolo (wow bagong bukas!) kung may handyman :)

sige kapag napunta ako dun sa bagong RP hehe check out ko na din sa ibang ace or handyman. hindi kasi ako nagtatanong sa crew hahaha thank you

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on October 23, 2014, 08:25:58 AM

Quote from: buffet on October 23, 2014, 07:47:50 AM

sige kapag napunta ako dun sa bagong RP hehe check out ko na din sa ibang ace or handyman. hindi kasi ako nagtatanong sa crew hahaha thank you

minsan kasi olats magtanong sa crew ng mga mall hardware stores <_<

OT: tapos kumustahin mo na rin yung RP Antipolo sakin kung maganda! wala pang time bumisita eh :-D

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on October 23, 2014, 10:46:10 AM

sir, pasingit lang po. Magkano kaya yung oxalic sa mercury and sa hardware? :)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on October 23, 2014, 10:59:06 AM

Quote from: kimpoy19 on October 23, 2014, 10:46:10 AM

sir, pasingit lang po. Magkano kaya yung oxalic sa mercury and sa hardware? :)

Parang 180 ata pero napakadami nun. :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: buffet on October 24, 2014, 06:48:11 AM

Quote from: sonicassault on October 23, 2014, 08:25:58 AM

minsan kasi olats magtanong sa crew ng mga mall hardware stores <_<

OT: tapos kumustahin mo na rin yung RP Antipolo sakin kung maganda! wala pang time bumisita eh :-D

oo nga. kapag nagtanong ka wala pero maghanap ka lang e meron. minsan mali pa yung aisle na sasaibhin hahaha kailangan ko mag-back read para dun sa tamang pag-gamit ng oxalic hehe

OT: ok naman daw sabi nung kabarkada ko kaso halos wala pang bukas na shops hehe sa antipolo ka din ba sir?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on October 24, 2014, 10:41:59 AM

Quote from: buffet on October 24, 2014, 06:48:11 AM

oo nga. kapag nagtanong ka wala pero maghanap ka lang e meron. minsan mali pa yung aisle na sasaibhin hahaha kailangan ko mag-back read para dun sa tamang pag-gamit ng oxalic hehe

OT: ok naman daw sabi nung kabarkada ko kaso halos wala pang bukas na shops hehe sa antipolo ka din ba sir?

pag yung legit na hardware store kasi or sa mga Home Depot ganun talagang alam nila yung products, ang mahirap sa mall hardware stores ang mga staff parang staff din ng department store, hindi sila masyado specialized at nagrorotate din. One of them told me I can strip paint from my wood hoops using 600 grit sandpaper. :eek: baka nga kumintab pa yung hoops ko :lol:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: buffet on October 27, 2014, 07:14:35 AM

thanks. hanap ako sa legit na hardware. wish me luck sa paglinis ng kit.

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on December 24, 2014, 01:07:12 AM

(http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/product/images/f_drumkit/Inside_Finish.jpg)

mukang hindi na naman bago sa inyo tong drum shell interior finish/treatment pero gusto ko lang subukan parang wala kasi masyadong naguusap tungkol dito.

sa mga nabasa ko ginagawa din ito ng mga kilalang drum company tulad ng tama, pearl, gretsch, ludwig, yamaha, mapex at madami pang drum company sa mga high-end drum kit nila especially noong mga 70's-90's. ang gretsch daw ay nagamit ng "silver finish" hanggang ngayon(hindi ko sigurado kasi hindi pa ako nakakagamit ng gretsch drums). ang tama drums naman makikita to sa star drum line nila. yung gretsch sinasabi na isa sa recipe nila yang silver finish para magdagdag sa character ng tone ng drums nila. ang tama naman hindi ko alam kung aesthetics at protection lang ang reason nila or may kinalaman din sa tone quality

Masyadong "moisture" ang hangin sa room kung saan nakalagay ang drum kit ko kapag mainit ang panahon. dahil jan, gusto kong bigyang protection ang drum kit ko, lalo na ang shells, laban sa molds at iba pang makakasama sa drum shell. pero may nabasa pa akong mga article na sinasabi nila na MAAARING magiiba ang tone ng drums dipende sa gagawing wood treatment.

eto yung mga alam ko na pwedeng gamitin para makapagbigay protection sa drum shell:
tung oil
linseed oil
polyurethane (oil-base/water-base)
lacquer finish
wood varnish
wood stain

ganito lang yung konsepto sa mga nabasa ko:
mas smooth and thick na coating, mas focus at bright ang posibleng maging tone. pero sabi din ng ilan na yung mga tung oil, danish oil at linseed oil nakakadagdag daw ng warmness sa tone.

wala pa akong nasisimulan pero bukas na bukas bibili ako ng tung oil para light lang ang coating at hindi makaapekto masyado sa tone ng drums dahil ang main objective ko lang naman ay mabigyan ng protection ang shells.
btw, mapex horizon hx (basswood shell) nga pala yung pageexperimentuhan ko.
kung wala akong makuhang tung oil, polyurethane(water-base satin finish) na lang ang gagamitin ko. try ko magpost ng photos ng mga gagawin ko para kung maging palpak matatauhan na kayo na wag na gumaya sa akin :-P

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on December 24, 2014, 01:14:38 AM

dagdag ko pala

kung babasahin nyo yung features nung sa yamaha absolute hybrid maple series nila, meron doong nakalagay na "vintage interior finish" na may description na: "Shell interiors are coated with our exclusive "Vintage Natural" finish for enhanced tone and refined looks."

Title: Re: HELP...What cleaning agent can be use to clean my Yamaha steel snare
Post by: bakit? on December 30, 2014, 01:00:27 PM

Quote from: staypuft on November 21, 2012, 12:28:56 PM

Good day mga bro at masters patulong naman kung ano magandang pang linis ng Yamaha steel snare ko at sa Yamaha bass drum at toms ko di ko kase alam kung anong kind ng wood mga ito. Ito yung mga pictures mga sir..Salamat :)

note:

di ko kase alam din kung anong series ng yamaha sya

Yamaha Steel snare 10 lugs
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o501/darthmykel/drums/DSC_0115.jpg)
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o501/darthmykel/drums/DSC_0106.jpg)

Yamaha bass drum and toms
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o501/darthmykel/drums/DSC_0117.jpg)
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o501/darthmykel/drums/DSC_0118.jpg)
(http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o501/darthmykel/drums/DSC_0119.jpg)

parehas tau ng drumkit sir.magka mukha.

gusto ko din linisin, kaso di ko alam kung paano ko maibabalik. japan yung yamaha ko at napaka bigat ng hardwares.

Title: Re: HELP...What cleaning agent can be use to clean my Yamaha steel snare
Post by: bulok on December 30, 2014, 03:32:52 PM

Quote from: bakit? on December 30, 2014, 01:00:27 PM

parehas tau ng drumkit sir.magka mukha.

gusto ko din linisin, kaso di ko alam kung paano ko maibabalik. japan yung yamaha ko at napaka bigat ng hardwares.

Tanggalin mo yung hardware sa shell tapos ilagay mo sa planggana tapos spray mo ng wd40. Patagalin mo mga 1-2hours tapos. Scrub mo ng foil. Tapos banwalan mo sa bacha na may tubig at dish washing liquid para maalis yung wd40 tapos banlawan mo ng tubig lang pagkatapos. Tapos tuyuin mo na ng basahan

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bakit? on December 30, 2014, 03:46:15 PM

salamat! mga ilang wd40 kaya para sa lahat ng hardwares? di ba ako mamahalan nun?haha

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on December 30, 2014, 03:58:59 PM

Kahit yung tig 180Php ata yun basta wala pang 200Php yun. Kaunti lang naman magagamit mo dun. Madami ka pa matitira para sa susunod na paglilinis mo. Try mo din yung sinasabi nila na oxalic.kaso hindi ko pa lang nasusubukan yun

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on December 30, 2014, 09:19:09 PM

eto nga pala yung ginawa kong shell interior treatment

eto yung ginamit ko

(http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/thrashlordmessiah/media/3_zpsf468237a.jpg.html?sort=3&o=15)

(http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/thrashlordmessiah/media/42_zps5b87fe6c.jpg.html?sort=3&o=12)

at 220 grit sand paper

bali dalawang coating ang ginawa ko. ni-liha ko muna yung wood bago ko lagyan ng polyurethane tapos pinatuyo ko ng 3hours(dipende kung gaano katagal matuyo ng gagamiting polyurethane o kung ano mang chemical ang trip nyo gamitin)

1st coating eto kinalabasan
(http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/thrashlordmessiah/media/WP_20141228_008_zps66cf14a8.jpg.html?sort=3&o=8)
pagkatapos ko lagyan ng polyurethane gamit ang brush, pinunasan ko agad ng basahan para magpantay pantay ang coating.
eto na sya nung natuyo:
(http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/thrashlordmessiah/media/firstcoat_zpsdc4c5b79.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0)

pagkatapos ng 3hours, ni-liha ko na sya ng 220 grit na pangliha bago ko ipatong yung 2nd coat
(http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/thrashlordmessiah/media/WP_20141228_011_zps0796db18.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4)
walang flash:
(http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/thrashlordmessiah/media/secondcoat_zpsc3546aca.jpg.html?sort=3&o=6)
with flash:
(http://s1379.photobucket.com/user/thrashlordmessiah/media/WP_20141228_012_zps551e16f8.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3)
pinunasan ko ulit ng basahan pagkatapos ko magapply ng polyurethane

sobrang liit lang ng nabago sa color ng shell pero naging makinis sya compare nung hindi ko pa nilalagyan ng coating. ang mahalaga yung protection lang para sa shell. tapos yung tone hindi ko napansin yung difference gawa hindi ko naman tinesting bago ko lagyan nung polyurethane. pero tingin ko halos wala din namang nabago sa tone gawa ng manipis lang yung poly na ginamit ko at dalawang coat lang ang ginawa ko

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: vipher on December 31, 2014, 04:10:13 PM

bakit di lumalabas yung mga pic? Ano exactly yung polyurethane na ginamit mo sir? Akala ko tung oil ang gagamitin mo?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on December 31, 2014, 05:03:36 PM

Onga no ayaw nga. Ewan ko kung bakit ayaw lumabas.try ko ayusin bukas. Wala akong makitang tung oil kaya polyurethane ang ginamot ko. Pye yung brand name nya. Oil-base polyurethane matte finish para hindi glossy ang kalabasan. Mejo maamoy nga lang sya. Dapat water-base pala ginamit ko

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: vipher on December 31, 2014, 05:09:39 PM

ok . . . salamat sa info. Dahil wala pang pic . . . sinama mo ba pati yung bearing edge?

HAPPY NEW YEAR pala!!!

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on December 31, 2014, 05:24:52 PM

Happy new year din! Hindi ko ginalaw yung bearing edge.kung tung oil yung gagamitin mo tingin ko okay lang na malagyan yung bearing edge gawa sinisipsip naman ng wood yung tung oil kaya okay lang

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on January 04, 2015, 02:53:02 PM

Hindi ko maayos yung pictures na inupload ko :-(

Sa mga may experience na sa chrome plated hardwares at powder coated hardwares eto tanong ko:
Ano ang mas matibay? Pano linisin yung poweder coated? Baka kasi masira yung powder coat pag kinuskos ko ng foil

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: peeves24 on January 05, 2015, 10:48:04 AM

powder coat is still paint so treat it like paint. para saan yung foil?

mas matibay chrome plating

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on January 05, 2015, 04:34:19 PM

Quote from: peeves24 on January 05, 2015, 10:48:04 AM

powder coat is still paint so treat it like paint. para saan yung foil?

mas matibay chrome plating

Foil yung ginagamit ko pangkuskos sa mga cymbal stand ko at sa mga chrome plated hardwares. Pang scrub ko yung foil para matanggal yung rust at mabalik yung shine hehe. Effective naman

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: peeves24 on January 05, 2015, 04:38:53 PM

ah never tried it. basahan always worked for me lalo na microfiber cloth

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on January 05, 2015, 04:55:49 PM

Nakita ko lang sa youtube at nabasa ko lang sa ibang forum yung paggamit ng foil. Hindi kasi kaya ng basahan yung mga kalawang na nanuot kaya kaylangan na talagang i-scrub at the same time hindi magkakagasgas yung chrome plate ng hardware kaya sinubukan ko yung foil. Effective naman kasabay ng wd40

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: gss on January 05, 2015, 05:52:55 PM

Quote from: peeves24 on January 05, 2015, 04:38:53 PM

ah never tried it. basahan always worked for me lalo na microfiber cloth

Incidentally, I'm in the middle of my "general cleaning" ng kit...sinamantala ko habang naka kalas siya since habagat season pa. I'm done with the shells, sunod na ang metal parts/hardware...basahan lang and old barbie white socks ng anak ko on the shells ayos na, the latter as an alternative to microfiber cloth hehe...as for the rest of the kit the foil is intriguing, might as well try it out... though I haven't noticed any rusting yet on my stands/hardware, pero may specks/nicks na akong nakikita...

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on January 05, 2015, 06:08:00 PM

eto yung sa pag gamit ng aluminum foil
http://www.ehow.com/how_5831738_clean-chrome-drum-hardware.html (http://www.ehow.com/how_5831738_clean-chrome-drum-hardware.html)

hanapin ko ulit yung sa youtube

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on January 05, 2015, 06:09:25 PM

eto pa
http://drum-set-guide.com/cleaning-drums/ (http://drum-set-guide.com/cleaning-drums/)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on January 05, 2015, 06:14:09 PM

meron pa coke ang ginagamit sa paglinis ng hardware kaso hindi ko na sinubukan. okay na ako sa wd40

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on January 05, 2015, 11:32:14 PM

tried coke and foil,never worked,isang oras ako nagkuskos waiting for that chemical reaction daw e
nasayang lang ako coke sana ininum ko na lang at sana pinambalot ko na lang ng nirelyenong bangus
wd40 at cloth oks sakin at oxalic acid sa matinding kalawang. :wave:

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: bulok on January 05, 2015, 11:35:30 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on January 05, 2015, 11:32:14 PM

tried coke and foil,never worked,isang oras ako nagkuskos waiting for that chemical reaction daw e
nasayang lang ako coke sana ininum ko na lang at sana pinambalot ko na lang ng nirelyenong bangus
wd40 at cloth oks sakin at oxalic acid sa matinding kalawang. :wave:

Pano yung oxalic? Timplahin sa tubig tapos babad sa tubig na may oxalic yung hardware?

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on January 07, 2015, 01:14:23 AM

Quote from: bulok on January 05, 2015, 11:35:30 PM

Pano yung oxalic? Timplahin sa tubig tapos babad sa tubig na may oxalic yung hardware?

mismo bro,back read ka sa hardware maintainance thread,nandun ang story papaano
kasi ako ung lalagyan namin ng tubig halos napuno ko,kasi kelanagan mababad buong stands at madami sya.try ko magpost ng pics/

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: buffet on January 11, 2015, 03:46:43 PM

paano kapag nasira yung parang plastic sa cymbal stand? (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/10/2537bf1aa21a81c1616ffdb715686e0b.jpg)

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on January 11, 2015, 10:06:10 PM

Quote from: buffet on January 11, 2015, 03:46:43 PM

paano kapag nasira yung parang plastic sa cymbal stand? (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/10/2537bf1aa21a81c1616ffdb715686e0b.jpg)

bili ka cymbal sleeve sa jb na gibraltar,o kaya tubo ng hose na maliit gupitin mo

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: buffet on January 12, 2015, 10:15:24 AM

Quote from: harugrugrug on January 11, 2015, 10:06:10 PM

bili ka cymbal sleeve sa jb na gibraltar,o kaya tubo ng hose na maliit gupitin mo

nice! thank you sir

Title: Re: Drums & Hardware Care and Maintenance Thread
Post by: sonicassault on March 09, 2015, 03:55:49 PM

Double post to, kasi parang feeling ko mas ok dito itanong :)

Quote from: sonicassault on March 09, 2015, 03:50:02 PM

What's a nice way to remove the tarnish on brass? I got a really nice brass snare last week (thank you sir Plep!) eh OC lang ako dun sa tarnish. Ok lang sana kung yung buong snare may tarnish/patina pero random spots sya against shiny yellow brass. Would I have to strip some sort of coating as with cymbals?

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