Entry-level & Mid-level Cymbals thread

[oliver_soh]

para sakin dude mag zbt or b8 kanalang kaysa mag planet Z ka,mura nga planet but ilang month or weeks lang ang sama na ng itsura at tunog nyan, balewala din bili ka ulit ng cymbals, hindi baleng gumastos ng mahal basta sa sigurado ka ng brand, ipon lang ng ipon,kahit matagalan at least sicgurado ka sa binili mo, un lang bro, wag na wag ka mag Planet Z, advise ko lng ha,(excuse sa mga planet Z's) hehe, not advisable kc sakin un e, saka ung sabe mung paiste?hehe not cost that much ha?! hehe aus din pede rin..

[black_panther]

If I wanted a cymbal set to sound great even if it doesn't cost that much, what would you guys recommend?

I want a simple set up like the ff:

14" hats
16" crash
18" crash ride

I was thinking of paiste or planet Z?
Well, I'll leave it up to you guys. Tnx.

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[oliver_soh]

eto na dumating na c JP!!

the best Bro mag stagg ka!! long life cymbals and to its durability pa!!
at sa presyong hindi pa nakakainis, sulit na sulit!!

[plep]

If I wanted a cymbal set to sound great even if it doesn't cost that much, what would you guys recommend?

I want a simple set up like the ff:

14" hats
16" crash
18" crash ride

I was thinking of paiste or planet Z?
Well, I'll leave it up to you guys. Tnx.

well kung gusto mo maganda tunog, eh di wag ka mag Planet Z. actually mabuti nang iwasan mo lahat ng budget cymbal models ng Zildjian, kasi malaki agwat ng quality ng budget range at professional range nila.

sa sabian, merong XS20, B8, tsaka B8 Pro. yung XS20 warm yung tunog, medyo low pitched. yung B8 / B8 Pro matinis. wag yung Solar (brass kasi... iwasan mo ang brass!).

sa paiste, yung PST 5 (wag yung PST 3 kasi brass!) nila okay lang kaso nothing special. yung Alpha, maganda talaga. siguro quality-wise, ito na yung best series sa low-mid level price range. wag rin pala yung 101/201 if ever available pala dito.

sa meinl, di ko alam ano available dito. tignan mo na rin ano meron sa lyric. yung MB10, Raker, Amun, tsaka Classics mga okay daw para sa presyo e. yung MCS, parang PST 5 lang yun. again, wag yung HCS kasi brass.

ang Stagg naman, yung mga top-of-the-line nila eh kapresyo ng mga mid-range models ng ibang brands. kaso sobrang kailangan mo talaga piliin yung cymbals na kukunin mo kasi iba iba yung tunog nila. kung may oras at tiyaga ka para mamili talaga ng cymbals mula sa buong stock ng isang tindahan, punta ka na lang sa tms tapos hatawin mo lahat ng stagg na andun hanggang makuha mo yung set na gusto mo. makakakuha ka talaga ng maganda ang tunog para sa swabeng presyo, kailangan lang masipag ka.

tapos syempre, andiyan din ang philmusic classifieds. maraming crash dun ngayon, at may ilang ride din na available. hats medyo tiyempuhan e, mabilis kasi mabili.

ang suggestion ko, tignan mo ano available dito sa philmusic, tapos kung ano yung di mahanap dito, hanap ka ng Stagg na pwedeng isama sa set. di naman kasi kailangan lahat parehong brand/series para maging bagay sa isa't isa e.

tsaka isa pa, pahirapan ang 18" crash ride kung yun lang ride mo... ikaw rin ang mabibitin dun (unless idol mo si steve gadd). mabuti nang kumuha ka ng 20"/21" na medium ride (para kaya pa rin icrash) tapos 16"/17" na crash.

[autoexec]

wag bumili ng mga chipipay na cymbals. Yun lang. Ok pa zbt wag lang tlga mga planet z or solar O_o

[FINGERZAP]

Sabian B8 all the way!

[tagz]

depende bro kung magkano talaga budget mo at kung ano trip mong sound.. 

[plep]

tulad ng sabi ko sa taas, personally di ko gusto ang ZBT, kaso merong set na available sa classifieds na 8k lang. worth a try siguro (well, para sa akin hindi, kaso kung planet z nga papatulan mo, eh di mas matino naman 'to)

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php?topic=74113.0

[Paolo-I-b]

zildjian zht's

[wildeye_29]

tnx mga bro.

i think id try the stagg.

gs2 ko ung tunog eh.

tnx.

[oliver_soh]

oo dude!! try stagg mura na sulit na sulit pa ung sound nya.. sa tms ka bumili para ma guide ka nina jp at ni sir robert delacruz of skychurch

[kibohead]

after our drum event last night with robert,jp and the gang, i was shocked on how the stagg cymbals projected...especially the myra crashes...man, definitely i'll go with stagg rather than low end, sheet cymbals out in the market.
happy new year bro.

[markdelacruz]

pare in drumming, it's like an investment. we have to face the truth that money talks when it comes to cymbals. pare it's like buying jewellry, you're buying for the prestige and respect, in terms of cymbals, you're buying the quality and sound of it. Pero kung tagtipid ka, what i can recommend you are the following:

Zildjian ZHT set
Sabian B8 set
Stagg Cymbals (DH,SH series)

pero, kung gagamitin mo naman for a lifetime yung cymbals mo, i'd reccomend that you save up for the high end ones like:

Zildjian K, K Custom, A, A Custom, Z Custom
Sabian HH, HHX, AA, AAX, Vault
Paiste Signature series

it will all be worth it pare. as long as you'd learn how to take care of your cymbals. ayun. cheers. merry after christmas and happy new year.

[vdonati_fan]

wow! all of them are correct...ano pa kaya pwede ko idagdag?

oo nga pala, each brand has a different personality or sound character...

what i mean by this is Zildjian cymbals have a different sound character from Sabian cymbals, Paiste, etc. i don't know the specific terminology for their character but i hope you get my point.

so again, it depends on your taste or should i say on your hearing.

minsan lang kasi, "what the ear wants, the pocket doesn't."...hehehe

well, that's why meron tayong Stagg cymbals, pasok lahat ang budget. at talagang quality pa. i have a couple myself.

hope this helps also.

[g0d5_g1ft]

after our drum event last night with robert,jp and the gang, i was shocked on how the stagg cymbals projected...especially the myra crashes...man, definitely i'll go with stagg rather than low end, sheet cymbals out in the market.
happy new year bro.

tama si sir jack get staggs  I own a 16 and a 17 myra crash and boy did I get more than what I paid for, pili ka lang sa stocks kasi iba iba nga ang tunog, yung 16 ko as in parang AAXplosion ang tunog (comment coming from an AAXplosion owner)... kaya ngayon plan ko full stagg setup, kailangan ko lang maghanap ng pera pambili hehehe

[spongklong]

pasingit naman, ask ko lng kung sa  pinas lang ba available ang stagg? wala kasi akong nakikita nito sa thailand eh. magkano rin pala 1 set nito ?

[vdonati_fan]

pasingit naman, ask ko lng kung sa  pinas lang ba available ang stagg? wala kasi akong nakikita nito sa thailand eh. magkano rin pala 1 set nito ?

i'm not sure kung sa ibang asian countries meron ngang Stagg na available. meron din silang set na DH at SH na binibenta but i'm not sure abouot the pricing.

consult with black_panther about it...

hope this helps!

[revelaxionz09]

bro go with the sabian b8's!! for me they're more good than ZBTs  yup! bro i agree dont spend your money in buying planet z, solars, or other brass cymbals.. or else your be sorry.. hehe.. only my opinion..

[spongklong]

Mga pre, question lng about cymbals. ung tunog ba ng cymbals eh depende ba sa kulay nya. nakabili kasi ang ng 2nd hand na 18" crash na dark color cia, yung sound nya eh medyo matinis.
2nd Question, pwede bang gawing hi-hat ang 14" crash?  kahit mag kaiba ang top and bottom nila.

[plep]

Mga pre, question lng about cymbals. ung tunog ba ng cymbals eh depende ba sa kulay nya. nakabili kasi ang ng 2nd hand na 18" crash na dark color cia, yung sound nya eh medyo matinis.

sortakindamedyo may kinalaman. actually yung tunog eh base sa alloy na ginamit, tsaka sa iba pang factors tulad ng hammering, lathing, profile, taper, thickness, etc. kaso dun sa alloy pwede mo masabi na yung "kulay" eh may kinalaman sa tunog. kung medyo reddish, B8 bronze yun (matinis). kung yellowish brown, B20 bronze (warm). kung dark brown, baka may patina (yung parang kalawang kaso hindi nakakasira ng bronze) na... kung ganun, mas dark at dry yung tunog.

2nd Question, pwede bang gawing hi-hat ang 14" crash?  kahit mag kaiba ang top and bottom nila.

bakit hindi? gumamit na ako ng hihat na 18" crash ride sa ibabaw, 20" china sa ilalim. basta naman maganda tunog, go lang.

[makLoy]

gusto ko sa accents:

ziLdjian orientaL trash spLash
and
ziLdjian orientaL trash china 

[spongklong]

sortakindamedyo may kinalaman. actually yung tunog eh base sa alloy na ginamit, tsaka sa iba pang factors tulad ng hammering, lathing, profile, taper, thickness, etc. kaso dun sa alloy pwede mo masabi na yung "kulay" eh may kinalaman sa tunog. kung medyo reddish, B8 bronze yun (matinis). kung yellowish brown, B20 bronze (warm). kung dark brown, baka may patina (yung parang kalawang kaso hindi nakakasira ng bronze) na... kung ganun, mas dark at dry yung tunog.
bakit hindi? gumamit na ako ng hihat na 18" crash ride sa ibabaw, 20" china sa ilalim. basta naman maganda tunog, go lang.

@Plep - pre, maraming salamat at least eh nagkaroon ako ng mga idea sa mga cymbals 

[incubus_boy08]

Zildjian ZBT, Paiste 201 or Sabian B8?  Mga sir alin po ang masmagandang 18" crash between those three??? Need your opinions..thanks!!! ..V..



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[lil.drummerboy]

sabian b8

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