Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?

[skrumian]

Zoom multifx into karaoke! Tone heaven!

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[qroon]

and the joyo dc-15 gives you energy like you've never experienced before!! it will also help you in your exercise! trust me it really does! 

Eto ba yun?

Nice playing! "It's just a phase!" FTW

[techbp]

Eto ba yun?

Nice playing! "It's just a phase!" FTW

Yan nga yun sir...

OT: It's kinda fun watching every gear demo of GP, lalo pag si Ael. 

[TagaRetiro]

Gusto ko yung reverb tone nung slow dancing dun sa demo! hehe

[aHeartThatNeverFade]

Ael: metal (ang naintindihan ko mellow hahahaha. Ang slang kasi..!!! Hahaha)

[kernelsalonpas]

okay nga yang joyo for bedroom amp. naka cube lang ako sa bahay pero sa gig monster amps na lol

[juwanfidle09]

langya... ano na nangyari sa usapan tungkol sa tube amps and solid state? 

about dun sa line 6 spider, para sa akin ok siyang amp for gigging since mas sanay talaga ako na nakarekta sa amp

[Bolt Thrower]

I agree. What if I'll spend 100k for a tube amp and not getting that 200k worth of a boutique amp? And for me that's "practical"? Could you say that I spent too much because of "hype" or "practicality"? Eh kung sa mayaman ako. Hahahaha 

Yes! E kung mayaman ka di ba? Practical pa rin na lahat ng classic Marshalls meron ka. Yung tao naman na mas mababa income puwede mag Bugera na $500 tube amp. E kung sa maganda sa kanya tunog nun e. Ano magagawa natin? Yung iba gusto naman tunog solid state at modellers dahil nakukuha na nila yung tunog nila ng maganda, masipag sila mag timpla. Yaan mo na. Kung puro SS can afford mo di rin naman masama yun. Puwede ka naman mangarap ng tube amp na trip mo. Wag ka nalang siguro mag sour grape sa may tube amp kung wala ka talaga pambili.

Yung mahalaga meron ka. At gusto mo tunog.

[juwanfidle09]

Yes! E kung mayaman ka di ba? Practical pa rin na lahat ng classic Marshalls meron ka. Yung tao naman na mas mababa income puwede mag Bugera na $500 tube amp. E kung sa maganda sa kanya tunog nun e. Ano magagawa natin? Yung iba gusto naman tunog solid state at modellers dahil nakukuha na nila yung tunog nila ng maganda, masipag sila mag timpla. Yaan mo na. Kung puro SS can afford mo di rin naman masama yun. Puwede ka naman mangarap ng tube amp na trip mo. Wag ka nalang siguro mag sour grape sa may tube amp kung wala ka talaga pambili.

Yung mahalaga meron ka. At gusto mo tunog.

Ali, paano kung maglabas ng tube amp version at budget ss amp nito?

[dtmateo]

digital for me! 

@dtmateo - if you always bring the topic of skill vs. gear, you're in for an argument.  Suggest you don't bring it up in a way that puts down other people. 
Check #9 here, it's a sticky, read it:  http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=196448.0

Also, the word "practical" is relative.  No one will win if you argue what is practical.

Thanks for the link.

The skill argument only came in because:

1) They think my video was a joke
2) They think the music in the video was a joke.

To me that is a serious challenge and borderline insulting.

So stand up to what you think is a joke and I will even praise you if I think you are worth the megabuck tube amp you have been preaching about. Otherwise STFU and enjoy the thread

[maxi_musikero]

The skill argument only came in because:

1) They think my video was a joke
2) They think the music in the video was a joke.

To me that is a serious challenge and borderline insulting.

So stand up to what you think is a joke and I will even praise you if I think you are worth the megabuck tube amp you have been preaching about. Otherwise STFU and enjoy the thread

i think you just had a senior moment. let me refresh your memory. this post brought up the skill argument:

I just hope half of these tube snobs can strum a chord

all arguments prior to that post were about characteristics of tube vs ss.

[kingthomas]

 

teka ano na nangyayari? baka ma lock itong thread na ito. parang yung yung isang thread, bigla na lang nag BERSERKER BARRAGE mga tao 

easy lang tayo mga paps 

[Bolt Thrower]

And then there are SS like the Line6 Spider that will blow away your cliched Dual Rectifier.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! naka crank ka na ba ng dual rec ng stage volumes? Ng 4x12? With a band?  Line6 Spider? Kahit $200 Randall RG Solid state talo yan e. Something is wrong with your ear. Wala yata ako professional musician na kilala na may experience sa dalawa at proper gig volumes na sasabihin yan. 

Kahit yata Line 6 di nila masabisabi na talo nila ang totoong Mesa Rectifier. Baka Sta. Mesa Rectofier kaya pa.

At least it can sound like a Marshall unlike the dual rec nyahaha!!! Even my former bandmates Behringer 100W head and 4x12 cab is indistinguishable from a Marshall and it's only $700.

Yikes. Yeah it is indistinguishable from a Marshall MG. Solid state. Try plugging to a a great JVM, JCM or Plexi. O kaya at least naman mag Bugera ka. Behringer din yun.

Ali, paano kung maglabas ng tube amp version at budget ss amp nito?

Pag meron talaga yan, bibili ako niyan Biro mo pati boses kaya. Talo pa ang TC vocal effects. hahahaha! NEvaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

[vhunter]

@dtmateo , just keep an open mind and keep practicing... I watched your my Sharona video and I love the attitude. You should come by tomorrow at craft and I'll let you play the song with my band through my rig. Then let's talk after and let me know how it feels with a nice little tube amp behind you. I guarantee you and even bet 100 pesos... Il have to pry the rig from your hands after the song. LETS DO IT !!!! Keep playing man that's all that matters.

The best part is I'll bring the mini rectifier ... Just for kicks hahaha.

[dtmateo]

Let me throw back the question at you. The same question I have been asking before:

At what volume do you play your tube amp?

[vhunter]

All volumes... I've played super loud and super soft. I have attenuators, di's, modelers... Etc. they're all tools. I even used a silent speaker cab once.

[juwanfidle09]

All volumes... I've played super loud and super soft. I have attenuators, di's, modelers... Etc. they're all tools. I even used a silent speaker cab once.

dalawang beses na akong naging saksi nito

[ubersam]

So stand up to what you think is a joke and I will even praise you if I think you are worth the megabuck tube amp you have been preaching about. Otherwise STFU and enjoy the thread

And there it is... I was wondering when that "worth your gear" argument was gonna pop up. I personally don't agree with that position. Let them acquire what they can/want and let them be happy with it. Besides, who will judge whether they are "worth" their gear or not? You?

[vhunter]

Posted the wrong vid,

That one pala. Silent cab. 90watt tube amp.

[teleleng]

How about using a bunch of pedals? Will the tube amp and ss amp sound the same or nearly identical to each other? 

[aHeartThatNeverFade]

Can someone do a demo side to side. TUBE vs SS.

[dtmateo]

All volumes... I've played super loud and super soft. I have attenuators, di's, modelers... Etc. they're all tools. I even used a silent speaker cab once.

So you crank up the amp so you can use attenuators?

[vhunter]

How about using a bunch of pedals? Will the tube amp and ss amp sound the same or nearly identical to each other? 

It depends... But you'll most of the time find more warmth in the T amp. Plus if you boost the volume of the OD pedal, the input tubes start to clip resulting in some nice preamp distortion. On a ss amp, it sounds kinda bad.

[vhunter]

So you crank up the amp so you can use attenuators?

Other way around, you use attenuators to crank an amp.

[dtmateo]

From my own experience, a 30W amp at 4 driving a 1x12 speaker is unusable in most venues. In an open field, you would be audible 2Kms away.

Edit: The point is, you wont even get to the sweet spot of your amp in real situations. Not just testing. Real gigs.