TALK @ PhilMusic.com - The Online Home of the Pinoy Musician
The Musician Forums => Guitar Central => Topic started by: oasgomez-is-banned on November 29, 2006, 10:38:08 PM
Title: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on November 29, 2006, 10:38:08 PM
When it comes to Boutique Pedals, nothing beats the Matchless Hot Box. Its a Preamp/Overdrive pedal. Everything about it spells boutique. The chassis is some kind of hard stainless gauge steel. All the components are point to point. Resistors ( not a single carbon film resistor in use) and Caps are top notch, some caps are even customized for Matchless. There two 12ax7 tubes mounted in phenolic sockets with a built in 220 volts power supply. Controls are lit internally like all matchless stuff. It costs around US$400 if you can find one. It beats that so-called modded TC Electronic SCF on the other thread. By the way, I like my SCF just as is without any tubes and stiff middle finger. That finger has serious confidence/ego issues.
But does it sound US$400? It depends and it did not WOW me. I tried and forced myself to like it but it was such a disappointment -- it was only after I changed one of the tubes to a NOS GE 12at7 that the Hot Box really come into being. I replaced some SOVTEK 12ax7 and boy what an improvement a genuine GE or Brimar made in the overdrive sound. It now sounds close to my Vox AC30 though not exact. Suddenly the fuzzy gain of the pedal turned into a smooth and sweet overdrive thru a strat. It just made my strat fat without any loss of definition. Upon further research I can still mix and match other tubes and actually dictate the level of drive on the Hot Box. Furthermore, the circuit is so sensitive to type and construction of the tube that you can change tonalities by changing tubes. NOS seems to be the best choice for this critter. This was not so with my Mesa Vtwin which was not at all sensitive to the type of tube, it just sounded fuzzy. What I like about the Hot Box is that it has now become flexible in terms of sound. No need for mods or switching ICs, all you have to do is switch tubes and it takes a different property.
However there are cons to it -- it cannot be powered by a 9 volt, the pedal has a large footprint, it ain't true bypass. But even without true bypass, the clean signal sounds great and rich.
For me, this is the top of the heap when it comes to boutique -- even beating the Klon Centaur. It however is really dependent on how much extra you are willing to shell out for NOS preamp tubes and thus mileage varies. So, I have to say it is an acquired taste and you have to be very specific with regards to its application. After all, not everyone likes the sound of a vox. But one thing is for sure, when it comes to construction, workmanship and what it does in totality, no stompbox in anybody's arsenal can match.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: greasykid on November 29, 2006, 11:14:50 PM
Here we go...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: lykenhowl on November 29, 2006, 11:21:02 PM
Maganda nga yan!!!....yan yung lagi kong ginagamit sa G2 ko pag gusto ko ng hebigat rakenrol na tunog and ang maganda pa sa dito sa G2 eh ok siya for the financially challenged like me. :roll:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Machine_Head on November 29, 2006, 11:34:49 PM
Yea bro, that was one of my fav settings on my G2 as well. I wonder what the real thing sounds like. :)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: caloyburger on November 29, 2006, 11:49:44 PM
what, its not true bypass?!? :? man at that price it should be...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: deadlifted on November 29, 2006, 11:53:33 PM
^ I don't think issue naman yan. kahit yung Mesa V-twin hindi naman true bypass.
Oasgomez, nakasubok ka na ba nung Damage Control Womanizer and Demonizer? I'm just curious on how it will compare with your Hotbox and V-twin.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: greasykid on November 29, 2006, 11:56:00 PM
Zoom G2? Modeller yon e. Kayo naman o! :-D Hehehehehe
. It beats that so-called modded TC Electronic SCF on the other thread. By the way, I like my SCF just as is without any tubes and stiff middle finger. That finger has serious confidence/ego issues.
How dare you insult our super botique pedal! well, it's all fair; tone is subjective they say. you dont like my brand logo either? well anyways, here's one for you. cheers! (http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b48/robie_f4_augusta/fu.jpg)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: snidd on November 30, 2006, 03:13:01 AM
so what? i bet you got this pedal to again tell us how filthy f*in rich you are. if you wish to show us how rich you are, get all of us together and give us all money. after this review, what do you want us to do? your reviews are eloquent but incomplete without soundclips. other than that, cheers mf.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Kulas on November 30, 2006, 03:15:21 AM
ako i'm financially challenged, hahaha!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on November 30, 2006, 03:20:17 AM
Deadlifted,
I have not tried Damage Control... though it looked interesting a few months ago, when they showed up with tons of variations, I felt that they were too gimmicky specially with colors and all. Still, I need to hear one for myself. By the way, though I am partial to tubes, I do not discount that there are good sounding non-tube overdrives and distortion.
BAMF,
You are right, I thought the circuit was simple until I opened it and saw the workmanship and parts. As I said before, it has top notch resistors, phenolic sockets, and custom capicitors. You would actually think it was the PTP preamp section of a matchless amp which I believe a P2,000 selection of local parts will never ever match in tone. If you have ever seen in the inside of matchless and heard one, they will tell you that one element of their sound is the type of components they use and that is why they go to the extent of having capacitors custom made for them.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: BAMF on November 30, 2006, 03:33:51 AM
But if it's that good, it has all the elements of a good clone target :D. Market-expensive, simple, cheap to produce.
It's easy to see how more of us will be sporting clones of this baby at our gigs hehehe.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: greasykid on November 30, 2006, 03:36:24 AM
I have not tried Damage Control... though it looked interesting a few months ago, when they showed up with tons of variations, I felt that they were too gimmicky specially with colors and all. Still, I need to hear one for myself. By the way, though I am partial to tubes, I do not discount that there are good sounding non-tube overdrives and distortion.
BAMF,
You are right, I thought the circuit was simple until I opened it and saw the workmanship and parts. As I said before, it has top notch resistors, phenolic sockets, and custom capicitors. You would actually think it was the PTP preamp section of a matchless amp which I believe a P2,000 selection of local parts will never ever match in tone. If you have ever seen in the inside of matchless and heard one, they will tell you that one element of their sound is the type of components they use and that is why they go to the extent of having capacitors custom made for them.
Aren't ceramic sockets better? Plastic lang yang phenolic kahit hi-temp plastic pa siya.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: bunyok23 on November 30, 2006, 03:41:50 AM
vtwin sounds fuzzy coz it uses diodes for clipping.
why dont you try the seymour duncan twin tube classic distortion pedal with philips military 6021 nos tubes. they sound really nice
as for me i got the best deal on a vintage japan ds-1 long dash. $30 only where normally it costs more than $100.
sounds way smoother than keeley or analogman mods.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: BAMF on November 30, 2006, 03:43:01 AM
You are right, I thought the circuit was simple until I opened it and saw the workmanship and parts. As I said before, it has top notch resistors, phenolic sockets, and custom capicitors. You would actually think it was the PTP preamp section of a matchless amp which I believe a P2,000 selection of local parts will never ever match in tone. If you have ever seen in the inside of matchless and heard one, they will tell you that one element of their sound is the type of components they use and that is why they go to the extent of having capacitors custom made for them.
Ah well...I don't have caps custom made for me, but a batch of audiophile grade caps just arrived, ditto with metal film resistors. Phenolics...we have that here.
I guess then it's time for a friendly tone party ! December 18, Purple Haze. I'll be bringing my matchbox clone (among others) armed with National 12AX7's. Let's see how far into tone territory cheaper parts will go. We will A/B it with yours with all other things equal. :D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: plugzzzz on November 30, 2006, 03:58:12 AM
You are right, I thought the circuit was simple until I opened it and saw the workmanship and parts. As I said before, it has top notch resistors, phenolic sockets, and custom capicitors. You would actually think it was the PTP preamp section of a matchless amp which I believe a P2,000 selection of local parts will never ever match in tone. If you have ever seen in the inside of matchless and heard one, they will tell you that one element of their sound is the type of components they use and that is why they go to the extent of having capacitors custom made for them.
Ah well...I don't have caps custom made for me, but a batch of audiophile grade caps just arrived, ditto with metal film resistors. Phenolics...we have that here.
I guess then it's time for a friendly tone party ! December 18, Purple Haze. I'll be bringing my matchbox clone (among others) armed with National 12AX7's. Let's see how far into tone territory cheaper parts will go. We will A/B it with yours with all other things equal. :D
oi ayus to pwede panuod hehehe sana nandun OAS pakinggan natin yung pinag mamalaki nyang matchless ahihihihi
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Kulas on November 30, 2006, 05:17:30 AM
HOY BAMF! asan na yung tube driver na pinapagawa ko sayo? hehe joke! pero serious, pagawa naman o, hehe. gusto ko gawin mong parang sushi box, yung very responsive sa volume adjustments ng guitar. pero sakin lagyan mo ng tube, kahit sa alexan aluminum casing lang, hehe. at papangalanan natin ng...
the kulasbulator! hehehe... serious ako dito ah, magkano singil mo sakin? PM moko, hehe.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Poundcake on November 30, 2006, 05:17:56 AM
so what? i bet you got this pedal to again tell us how filthy f*in rich you are. if you wish to show us how rich you are, get all of us together and give us all money. after this review, what do you want us to do? your reviews are eloquent but incomplete without soundclips. other than that, cheers mf.
oy oy easy lang meng.. review lang naman yun e. medyo mahal talaga ang $400 para sa isang pedal for the common Filipino kaya not for the financially challenged talaga. kasi sometimes people tend to become impulsive buyers because of reviews, etc. kaya warning lang yun na you should be sure na gusto mo yun otherwise you'll just throw away $400. enough of the oas-bashing na sana tayo dito, he did point out some good points of the pedal naman so we all learned a bit more :)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: R0B1EP061 on November 30, 2006, 06:36:04 AM
so what? i bet you got this pedal to again tell us how filthy f*in rich you are. if you wish to show us how rich you are, get all of us together and give us all money. after this review, what do you want us to do? your reviews are eloquent but incomplete without soundclips. other than that, cheers mf.
oy oy easy lang meng.. review lang naman yun e. medyo mahal talaga ang $400 para sa isang pedal for the common Filipino kaya not for the financially challenged talaga. kasi sometimes people tend to become impulsive buyers because of reviews, etc. kaya warning lang yun na you should be sure na gusto mo yun otherwise you'll just throw away $400. enough of the oas-bashing na sana tayo dito, he did point out some good points of the pedal naman so we all learned a bit more :)
oh come on pare, who are we kidding here? is it only me or did you guys ever noticed a pattern on how he makes his so-called reviews.
1) how expensive it is and how he still was able to afford it; how you working class folks would never be able to afford it. 2) how special it is because its boutique; made from wherever; made by whomever he knows; specially made custom bull crap 3) how it blow's everyone gear away; specially those who are only FORTUNATE enough to afford cheap/decent/middle class/ mass produced gear 4) how it sounds sooo good like he is a "tone connoisseur" even though he cant back his claims with sound clips..you know why? because tone/sound/timbre/vibe wat eva the fu<k it is you wanna call it is subjective.SH1T DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THIS GUY CAN PLAY? 5) and certainly not the least, how everything he is reviewing is nothing less than amazing...because its expensive bottom line....and it will make you guys feel like losers.
come on man, some of us here had probably handled/owned/still owns/buying/will buy gear this poseur could never even dream of having or maybe even afford. i did myself, verify it with your mod if you guys want but whats the fuk1n point? expensive, cheap are mixed with the good and bad as far as ive tried. you guys have to open your eyes and ears.
if you can barely spend on something decent AND or maybe something you cant afford; you might be financially challenged FOR NOW. BUT! if you're spending on something you can OR you can't afford eventhough you know there are gear(s) out there that would do the job for you or maybe even better for less; then you are what they call MENTALLY CHALLENGED.
CASE DISMISSED.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: lykenhowl on November 30, 2006, 07:00:50 AM
Robie,
IM YOUR #1 FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Avayaman on November 30, 2006, 07:05:21 AM
well, in fairness to him, meron din naman siya mga reviews of items he bought for a lot of money that didn't meet his expectations. i don't know him, and all of those which he has reviewed before i've never heard before. but i take it at face value, and if he feels that my gear is inferior to his, well, that's his opinion, not mine. he does mention a lot of boutique things which i'd probably never buy, but i find his reviews interesting. it's like when i read reviews of benz's and bmw's on car magazines which i don't plan on buying, but i read it anyway, bec. it's fun! :lol: he could tone done on a lot of things though... :wink:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: titser_marco on November 30, 2006, 07:18:10 AM
Hmm BAMF, I can make a Fuzz Face clone - electronically gifted na ba ako? I plan to venture into making a tube pedal for MYSELF e. Wala lang, fun siya. :)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: psychic_sushi on November 30, 2006, 07:23:04 AM
The review is informative. For information's sake. But as for the title... the "politically correct" term is bound to cause anarchy.
I don't consider myself financially challenged, and I believe that many of us here possess the humility not to flaunt how many zero's there are in all the bank accounts they have, or "materially fixated" they can be.
I'm tempted to bite... but my zen tells me to stay cool.
The title is a turn off, I may even go as far as to call it offensive. A post like that in any forum is sure to cause a stir. I don't want to preempt you, but I'm sure it was intentional... you controversial dude.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: R0B1EP061 on November 30, 2006, 07:30:12 AM
The review is informative. For information's sake. But as for the title... the "politically correct" term is bound to cause anarchy.
I don't consider myself financially challenged, and I believe that many of us here possess the humility not to flaunt how many zero's there are in all the bank accounts they have, or "materially fixated" they can be.
I'm tempted to bite... but my zen tells me to stay cool.
The title is a turn off, I may even go as far as to call it offensive. A post like that in any forum is sure to cause a stir. I don't want to preempt you, but I'm sure it was intentional... you controversial dude.
now that's what i was talking about!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: cumbersome on November 30, 2006, 07:30:17 AM
If boutique gear is his fullfillment, let the guy be. And even if he doesn't play as good as someone would expect a guy with arguably the best gear around (at least pricewise, hehe) to be, he's still in a position to review these things simply because he has them. And he's rich. Hehe. Conversely, if you own a beat up Fernando and play like freakin' Van Halen, then no amount of money can change the fact that you can kick oas' ass when it comes to doing melodic minor runs and fills. Kanya-kanya lang yan, hehehe. But i do want to try out oas' stuff. So i wonder when that party will be... :)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: titser_marco on November 30, 2006, 07:36:44 AM
The review is informative. For information's sake. But as for the title... the "politically correct" term is bound to cause anarchy.
Wait wait - the title IS politically correct? :?
It maybe a Politically-correct insult, but its still an insult
Got it. :)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: abyssinianson on November 30, 2006, 07:53:20 AM
i was trying to find sound clips of this Hot Box online but I can't find any - anyone found some? And before I forget, BAMF, meron ka ba na link sa mga pedals mo? I wanna browse and see what I might be interested in.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Poundcake on November 30, 2006, 08:45:09 AM
haha.. pareng Robie, my point is wag na lang sana patulan yung posts nya coz madaming napipikon pa rin sa kanya, which in turn turns into flaming (yet again). kung baga e we should just try reading his "reviews," no matter how opinionated and price-based they seem to be, without any ill feelings about his claims that all the other pedals, etc. are inferior and crappy, among others. magandang mindset na lang is kung pumasa sa standards ni oas, who claims to be of another "level" eh di at least aware tayo na may ganung gamit na nag-eexist :)
just to lighten things up, how does it compare to the equally-expensive Soldano Supercharger pedal sir oas? that should be a better comparison because at least they're in the same ballpark in terms of pricing.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: psychic_sushi on November 30, 2006, 09:33:53 AM
If boutique gear is his fullfillment, let the guy be. And even if he doesn't play as good as someone would expect a guy with arguably the best gear around (at least pricewise, hehe) to be, he's still in a position to review these things simply because he has them. And he's rich. Hehe. Conversely, if you own a beat up Fernando and play like freakin' Van Halen, then no amount of money can change the fact that you can kick oas' ass when it comes to doing melodic minor runs and fills. Kanya-kanya lang yan, hehehe. But i do want to try out oas' stuff. So i wonder when that party will be... :)
yes, we would all like to try out those toys. particularly, if he doesn't leave the "financially challenged" out of it either, which i'm sure he wont because oasgomez is a darling in person and his generosity in letting us play with his stuff is great. his reviews of reference quality stuff is fantastic, coz we get to show the world that we're not left out on all the goodies on the boutique market.
BUT, i only have beef with the title, its too demographically sensitive. its a hit on the 75+% who are living below the poverty level. not a very friendly title to posteither in a forum that brandishes its title with the name of a country that is classified as bearing third world status.
your ability to make music is another thing. you wont see perf or aya post a thread that is not for the "technically stunted", "tibrally deprived" or the "tonally impaired". they'll provide tips freely with no strings or hidden messages attached. its a matter of presentation and intention.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: cumbersome on November 30, 2006, 09:46:28 AM
^Unfortunately, humility isn't one of his virtues. The gear-musicianship corollary was a way to sympathize with those who were offended by his blunt market description. And since mr. oas is ostensibly financially advantaged, a tone party for those who are otherwise should be in order. Beer and chow shouldn't even make the tiniest dent compared to boutique stuff. :)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: agentx44 on November 30, 2006, 10:03:14 AM
(cuddles Zoom G1)
There, there, baby! Don't let the meanie make fun of your Hotbox module.... :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: vegetablejoe on November 30, 2006, 10:03:53 AM
Some people have unfortunately just not come across a good book on etiquette in their formative years...
...or chose not to read/internalize/practise what most people follow to get along with the rest of society.
Some people have Jekyll and Hyde personalities...
Some people are purposely controversial, as oas has been (from his own admission in a past thread). Their threads walk the thin line between controversy and civility, volunteering great info in the guise of 'public service', but dipping it in vinegar or taking a dig at everyone else, while serving it up. oas has not been the only one.
Personally I don't care what great info a thread bears if it's served up distastefully like this. I wish the mods would ban their asses or at least delete effin threads like this one.
This thread title WAS willfully malicious. Truly and Totally "a CRASS ACT." 'nuff said.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Letour on November 30, 2006, 10:14:23 AM
Man, I can't believe the title of this topic. It screams "I am so much richer than all of you". It's insulting, degrading and totally disrespectful.
Sana, if it was the first time, or a typo, I would let this pass. But coming from this person, I shall not.
As I said in his other topic about titanic saddles, posting an offensive, rude and insolent message is an open invite for reaction (violent or wussy). I think Mr. Gomez is KSP. Why would he make such an slighting gesture? He relishes in our aggressive retorts.
He is an insult to guitar players, to musicians and to anyone who is a member of this forum. Just think, if this was a general assembly with all of us physically present, would he make the same statements? Mr. Gomez hides behind the anonymity of the internet. He knows he is sheltered by his LCD screen (Oops, he once said his computer is crappy) and wire of his dial-up pre-paid internet card.
Now, how much again for the TC Electronic Tube SCF with the egotistic, low self-esteem finger?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Machine_Head on November 30, 2006, 10:39:43 AM
i was trying to find sound clips of this Hot Box online but I can't find any - anyone found some? And before I forget, BAMF, meron ka ba na link sa mga pedals mo? I wanna browse and see what I might be interested in.
Here's me Hotbox - http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3835735&q=hi (http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3835735&q=hi) :)
Pardon the sloppy playing.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: BAMF on November 30, 2006, 11:58:58 AM
Ahhh well with all the brouhaha...
Ang akin lang, money can't buy everything, and some things (great tone??)need not be expensive.
So far, in the less than a year I've been into modding and tinkering, I've been very much encouraged by my successes.
Talk to my customers. P500 can go a long, long way, tone-wise and I've proven it already.
If you want, I won't even clone the matchless, I'll just bring my existing BAMFulator pedal (thanks for the idea Kulaski nyahehehe). One 12AX7 with FET pre-boost circuitry and let's A/B that instead with your Matchless. Everyone who's played through it got their panties wet (ooops hahahehe).
And then we can A/B your Riken-ohmed TS808 versus my TS7 with metal films and TL072.
Then your MIJ OD3 vs my Sushi Taiwan DS1.
Wala lang. This is not at all a hostile challenge. It's just educational for me din. Hopefully, for you too. With luck and lots of fun in mind, hopefully it will be an eye-opener for both of us (coz you're right, I've never heard a Matchless in person).
December 18, Purple Haze. I'll be bringing my RJ Tele, pedals and my solid state Fender amp. If you've got better gear to spare, bring that. But when we A/B kelangan equal, either your amp or mine and your guitar or mine. That way it's the pedals that get A/B'ed and not the amp and guitar.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: xelalien on November 30, 2006, 12:14:14 PM
hanep! parang pay-per-view event! *kuha popcorn*
may pustahan ba? :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: BAMF on November 30, 2006, 12:22:22 PM
Uy walang ganyanan hehehe.
It's education for the most part.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on November 30, 2006, 12:46:05 PM
Vegetablejoe,
Dont give me a lecture on etiquette. Remember the strat you were trying to sell? I even wanted to make sure that you were sure with what you were doing because I felt that I should not just get a good sounding guitar from you without you knowing how I felt about it. You were very demanding then. You talk about etiquette but you refuse to censure those guys with dirty fingers. You talk about provocative Subject Titles yet there are even more provocative thread titles that aim to insult specific people.
As I explained, the Matchless hot box requires a whole collection of NOS 12ax7s, 12at7s, 12au7s, 5751s, ecc81s, ecc82s, ecc83s, etc. to really appreciate and those cost a whole lot of money. So this pedal which I mentioned is really an acquired taste and really did not WOW me at first is not for those who do not have the extra moolah to spare. Now, it is up to you decide how much its worth for you. And I am saying for what it does, it does it well and the construction is really top notch and tough. But I also mentioned its CONs. The problem kaya nagmumukhang nagyayabang ako sa inyo is kasi ang mga na-review ko mahal and considered boutique. Just tell me if you want me to review crap and thats fine because I will be more abrasive with crappier stuff.
Letour,
I am just saying it the way I see it. Kung wala kang pera pang NOS tubes hindi mo ma-maximize ang potential ng Matchless Hot Box -- thats it. For people who feel there are cheaper alternatives, I am just saying its not worth your while. Pati ako, mapapagastos ngayong ako sa NOS tubes na dati akala ko ay hindi masyadong importante -- iyun pala for some circuits it makes such a big difference.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: titser_marco on November 30, 2006, 12:48:22 PM
December 18, Purple Haze. I'll be bringing my RJ Tele, pedals and my solid state Fender amp. If you've got better gear to spare, bring that. But when we A/B kelangan equal, either your amp or mine and your guitar or mine. That way it's the pedals that get A/B'ed and not the amp and guitar.
And the shredmaster too! :) I'll be there!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: nicemusic on November 30, 2006, 01:01:05 PM
Hmm... :roll:
Money can buy gear, but not respect... :-(
But i think earning respect is not the purpose for writing thread reviews like this... :?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on November 30, 2006, 01:02:30 PM
By the way, I like the Shredmaster too. Despite the volume drop, I actually like the texture its adds and it matches with a real loud tube amp.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: toybitz on November 30, 2006, 01:22:07 PM
The problem kaya nagmumukhang nagyayabang ako sa inyo is kasi ang mga na-review ko mahal and considered boutique. Just tell me if you want me to review crap and thats fine because I will be more abrasive with crappier stuff.
Well, Alex, "if it were only a review", then there wouldn't be any problem, would it?
Review is review. But viantly calling modellers this, and SS amps that after detailed review of your own gear isn't just a review.
Since recording is impossible, I would hope you'd join the EB with your stuff and play them as we all have different tones in our fingers.
A word of caution though, don't call the other gears lined up for the shootout crap..or you'll we'll beat the crap out of you. (pun intended)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Kulas on November 30, 2006, 01:26:51 PM
BAMFulator? teka! loko ka ah, dahil jan kailangan bigyan moko ng discount sa Kulasbulator pedal ko, hahaha.
well, i'm all for that tone shootout. pero let's just keep it at that, an educational event. walang pagalingan, walang pagandahan. walang pikunan, hehe.
ano, game boys, see you monday!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: BAMF on November 30, 2006, 01:37:42 PM
Hehehe. How about...Jobetube ? Uhh...tubo ni Jobet ? Nyahehehe.
Last time I posted it, the preboost was not yet working. Now it is...and is ready to wet more guitar player panties nyahehehehe.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: starfugger on November 30, 2006, 01:51:34 PM
BAMF, paaarinnnneeeeeeeggggg?! :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Machine_Head on November 30, 2006, 02:09:03 PM
I was fortunate enough to try "Tubo ni Jobet" and man it got me boxer's wet. Hehehe.. Its one funky looking pedal but it sounds great. BAMF, i believe the pedal wasnt 100% when i tried it right? Game ako sa shootout, i'll bring some of my other BAMFed up pedals. :) Its gonna be fun!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: BAMF on November 30, 2006, 02:17:08 PM
Kulaski,
Shuure. Here's Perf's pedal. Same but without the pre-boost. The pre-boost isn't ultimately necessary because you can have the unit boosted by an external pedal like an RC Booster or what not. (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1539/1030435bd8.jpg)
I think it could be called the Suckface. It looks like a person who's sucking (a tube ? Nyahehehe). Uhh how about the Blowjob ? Nyahahaha.
And the innards are neater as well. Partly because it's not mine and I have to please the customer, and partly because there is no pre-boost circuitry. (http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2949/1030437eo0.jpg)
Haze, Sure you can listen to it op kors. Let's do it here na lang at my place, next time you're in Faura. Bring the uhumm...working files as well.
Nate, If the first time you played it was months ago, baka nga wala pa yung pre-boost nun. I can't remember if you played through it last time you were here, but if that was the case, OK na sya nun.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: psychic_sushi on November 30, 2006, 02:26:39 PM
Got to try it too... sweeeet :) tubey, raw... with a transparent boost to match. and it wont break your bank either. tube drive for the masses. :-D
hey, count me in on the tone playground at purple haze. i'd love to try the stuff out :)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Kulas on November 30, 2006, 02:29:21 PM
ok i want one like that like that, hehe. isang pedal lang. para i can boost it with my TS-9, hehe. ayos! hehe. game na yan jobet ah, hehe. nga pala, how is that powered?
yup anton, you should be there sa tone shootout, hehe. ikaw ang designated player eh, hehe.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Al_Librero on November 30, 2006, 02:35:21 PM
Your hijacking skills are very impressive, Jobet. :lol:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: caloyburger on November 30, 2006, 02:37:02 PM
Oas, just trying to help you a bit here, if you chose a more diplomatic approach in naming the thread something like: "Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box--Hot or Not?" I think that would save you a lot of time and stress replying to the critisims. Wouldn't you want that? After all the main basis of your review is to get your thoughts on the product across and it should be simple, really. On the other hand, if your intention is to stir the pot I can say that you have successfully done it in spades. But my question is, what would be the point of doing that? Does having a brawl give you alot of satisfaction? Because thread after thread you seem to be getting the same reactions and it comes out like you haven't learned a thing. I'm not jumping at your tail, just wana know where you're coming from...:?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: reckless boy on November 30, 2006, 02:39:39 PM
Ang saya saya talaga dito sa philmusic. :-D my discovery of this thread plus the looming long weekend really made my day. so two cents ko --
Kurek me ip i'm rong:
So ang sinasabi ni mr. oas, kung wala kang masyadong money to burn, wag mo nang pag aksayahan ng panahon to. Baka mali ako pero that seems like sound advice to me.
Pero ang kalakihan ng reklamo eh yung paraan ng kanyang pag 'review.' Maaangas, may pagka matapobre ang dating. Could have been phrased better, tama ba?
Someone once said, I may not agree with what you say, but to your death I will defend your right to say it.
PERO the thing here is, it seems like nobody has actually heard mr. oas play with, or use this particular review item (or any other item for that matter?). sound and tonality being matters of personal taste or preference, mr. oas' review would thus appear to become useless, or maybe irrelevant.
So in comes sir BAMF with his challenge, for everyone's education. One-on-one. Stuff-of-the-not-financially-challenged versus gear-of-the-mechanically-and-electronically-creative.
Mr. oas appears to have posted twice after sir BAMF's invitation: castigating sirs vegetablejoe and letour, and commenting on the shredmaster, but utterly and absolutely ignoring the invite.
What's the argument or excuse here, mr. oas? that you won't (or don't have to) stoop down to the level of us who cannot afford (or refuse to spend) on botique stuff? that you don't have to prove anything to anybody? c'mon, sir. so as to give your reviews maximum credibility, let the masses hear your stuff. i personally won't mind any irrelevant verbal surplusage of any of your future reviews, as long as i know that i have some basis to agree or disagree with your review; in fact, i think the verbosity and the callousness and "politically correct insults" add spice to what would otherwise be a pretty geeky discussion.
Or maybe you would not want to face all those who appear to have been offended, on some level or another, by your commentary -- this would be pretty understandable. but it does not give anyone an opportunity to examine the accuracy of your reviews (i am assuming that you review gear in order to help others who might be contemplating on getting the same stuff as you have, since that's usually the main point of reviews; heck, i may be wrong, but i'll assume away anyway). have someone else face-off with sir BAMF, using your stuff maybe? or even post soundclips of yourself using your gear? agree to the face-off, sir, otherwise you might just want to stop posting here altogether since your reviews will be worth nothing more than a red flag in a crowd of raging bulls.
so will we be seeing mr OAS versus sir BAMF, strictly for educational purposes on December 18 at purple haze?
abangan ang susunod na kabanata. sir xelalien, labas ka pa ng popcorn. :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: kahel on November 30, 2006, 02:41:33 PM
Dont give me a lecture on etiquette. Remember the strat you were trying to sell? I even wanted to make sure that you were sure with what you were doing because I felt that I should not just get a good sounding guitar from you without you knowing how I felt about it. You were very demanding then. You talk about etiquette but you refuse to censure those guys with dirty fingers. You talk about provocative Subject Titles yet there are even more provocative thread titles that aim to insult specific people.
As I explained, the Matchless hot box requires a whole collection of NOS 12ax7s, 12at7s, 12au7s, 5751s, ecc81s, ecc82s, ecc83s, etc. to really appreciate and those cost a whole lot of money. So this pedal which I mentioned is really an acquired taste and really did not WOW me at first is not for those who do not have the extra moolah to spare. Now, it is up to you decide how much its worth for you. And I am saying for what it does, it does it well and the construction is really top notch and tough. But I also mentioned its CONs. The problem kaya nagmumukhang nagyayabang ako sa inyo is kasi ang mga na-review ko mahal and considered boutique. Just tell me if you want me to review crap and thats fine because I will be more abrasive with crappier stuff.
oasgomez,
Yeah sure, go on and review the "crappier stuff", so this thread can go on forever... we'd love the entertainment value.
Lectures? I'm not giving you any. We're all too old to be lectured and too set in our ways to change for the better. I'vexpressed my thoughts, same as you have been doing on an open forum. Unfortunately, they're about you, since your online persona invites so much controversy.
And since you bring up the topic of my strat... this is all I will say for the record. I brought that in to Arie to check the electricals since it was grounded, due to my own crappy soldering skills. I did tell Arie that I would likely be selling it, and that is why I wanted him to fix the grounding. I had expected to go back to the shop, pay for the service, and get back my guitar, and evaluate from there. That it passed from Arie to you without it coming back to me first is what lifted my eyebrow and made me ask for its return. Demanding, you say? Uh uh, sir.
Censure? Ok, someone pls make me a moderator and I would be most willing to censure and delete ALL those threads that IMO have distasteful content/comments... no arguments, appeals, explanations will be entertained. Does anyone want to give me the job?! Hmmmmmm? Anytime, dudes.
Finally, kaya ka nagmumukhang mayabang, is because sinasadya mo to come off that way. It's not the content of your reviews, but all the side comments and remarks you like to insert which ruin the rich information you're trying to share. Others have more eloquently expressed how your reviews could have been better put, so no need to go into that anymore. How you wanna say things is your prerogative. How people react to what you say is also their prerogative. Yeah, cycle ad nauseum.
:-P
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Phil on November 30, 2006, 02:52:22 PM
.....lookeee here..another of oasgomez post...blah ...blah...blah...blah...nothing important to read here....go on...go about your business...if you want to mess up your day or have a good laugh...read it....... "not for the financially challenged"......love the title...what a prunehead.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: titser_marco on November 30, 2006, 03:02:52 PM
Oas, just trying to help you a bit here, if you chose a more diplomatic approach in naming the thread something like: "Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box--Hot or Not?" I think that would save you a lot of time and stress replying to the critisims. Wouldn't you want that? After all the main basis of your review is to get your thoughts on the product across and it should be simple, really. On the other hand, if your intention is to stir the pot I can say that you have successfully done it in spades. But my question is, what would be the point of doing that? Does having a brawl give you alot of satisfaction? Because thread after thread you seem to be getting the same reactions and it comes out like you haven't learned a thing. I'm not jumping at your tail, just wana know where you're coming from...:?
trust me, you shouldn't bother.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: vegetablejoe on November 30, 2006, 03:18:35 PM
Your hijacking skills are very impressive, Jobet. :lol:
Ay ! Me naka-halata ! Nyeheaheaha !
Well...sure beats talking about hamburgers or porn does it ? Subtle (or not too subtle) marketing as well nyahahehehe.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: psychic_sushi on November 30, 2006, 03:30:13 PM
point of clarification:
BAMF's invite does not come off to be a challenge. It seems to be more of a "wine tasting" party, where all can sip and compare. Yes, the venue and invite may seem like a showdown, and I understand how easily an invite can be misconstrued as a duel.
it would be great to hear and play the stuff, as i mentioned, it's all reference quality material, and educational.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: markflo on November 30, 2006, 03:37:06 PM
Quote
It beats that so-called modded TC Electronic SCF on the other thread. By the way, I like my SCF just as is without any tubes and stiff middle finger. That finger has serious confidence/ego issues.
sineryoso ampucha! bwahahahahahah!
and also...
BWAHAHAHAHHAHA OAS talking to me about my EGO & CONFIDENCE!!!! THAT'S HILARIOUS!!!
oas, there's a real cheap way to get your holy grail of tone...your tone of tones....your super tone....
it's called practicing...you should try it sometime...no special capacitor/transistor/resistor/ek ek...just pick up yer guitar...tune it up...open your song hits...
...just play...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Letour on November 30, 2006, 03:37:27 PM
I am just saying it the way I see it. Kung wala kang pera pang NOS tubes hindi mo ma-maximize ang potential ng Matchless Hot Box -- thats it. For people who feel there are cheaper alternatives, I am just saying its not worth your while. Pati ako, mapapagastos ngayong ako sa NOS tubes na dati akala ko ay hindi masyadong importante -- iyun pala for some circuits it makes such a big difference.
Kung wala akong pera? Did I just read it right? Does it always have to boil down to a money issue?
Mr. Gomez, you don't know who I am. Please don't talk about how much money you spend or I spend. You would be surprised.
Oh, yan ha. My comments have nothing to do with tube or amps or pedals. They have to do with what Mr. Gomez obviously likes to burn.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: psychic_sushi on November 30, 2006, 03:42:07 PM
Diba your band is named after Art. 365 of the RPC? How are my batchmates, Carlo and Karl?
As far as defending what Mr. Gomez statements, he has to pay me boutique money.
OT muna konti --
Atty. Letour,
Yep hahaha matagal ko na gustong papalitan yan. Masyadong ipinaglalandakan ang pagiging abugado e yun mga kabatch mo puro kriminal naman ang kliyente. :-o Hahahahaha. :-D Dito rin si Carlo sa forums, kung ano-ano pinagbibibili at pinagbabalakan bilhin. Marami ata siya post sa Bass Place, nag EB pa daw sila ng mga philmusic Bass Place residents nung isang gabi. Di ma-figure out ni Carlo kung sino ka, kaw na lang bumati sa kanya. Username niya ata dito car_law. Si Karl abala pa rin sa mga kaso niya at sa bago niyang beybi. Di pa rin kami makapag record ng maayos, sayang ang material.
OnT:
pasensya na sir psychic_sushi. mejo OA nga ata ako in construing sir BAMF's suggestion as one being a challenge to a duel. education ang habol natin ditong lahat, malaman kung sulit nga o hindi umiskor ng mamahaling gear. i didn't mean to make it come across as me speaking for sir BAMF, as i have no right to do so. so for that matter, sorry din po, sir BAMF.
point remains, though - sana nga magkaroon ng pagkakataon na magkaalaman. peace! 8-)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: skunkyfunk on November 30, 2006, 06:04:09 PM
Seems everyone just fell for that thread title. :-D
oasgomez, do you still intend to have some sort of high gain tone party?
Title: New Money
Post by: greasykid on November 30, 2006, 07:06:41 PM
Money money money.
Yung tunay na mayayaman, hindi nagpapasikat ng pera. That's why old money frown upon the nouveau riche.
--Greasykid Soriano Madrigal Zobel de Ayala :-D
Title: Re: New Money
Post by: blue buddha on November 30, 2006, 07:25:05 PM
Nate, If the first time you played it was months ago, baka nga wala pa yung pre-boost nun. I can't remember if you played through it last time you were here, but if that was the case, OK na sya nun.
The first time i played thru it was months ago, di pa ata nagwwork ng maayos yung boost. Too bad i wasnt able to try it last time i was there. :)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on November 30, 2006, 08:02:49 PM
Skunky,
They are just missing the point that matchless had created a tube driven overdrive/pedal format that is really sensitive to tubes and so flexible. But fortunately or unfortunately, you really gotto spend on NOS tubes and for me thats why I like it because its is not just like sticking a tube to some solid state circuit and claiming its tube sounding. I believe thats the nature of a well designed tube driven overdrive/preamp unit. Kaya nga tube dahil and tube ang napapatunog.
With so much heat, I think any tone party will generate into a guitar amp head throwing contest like your video clip on that bogner...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Machine_Head on November 30, 2006, 08:07:07 PM
With so much heat, I think any tone party will generate into a guitar amp head throwing contest like your video clip on that bogner...
hala tinakot nyo kasi! joke~~ :lol: pero sana matuloy sa 18 para masaya! (yay!) we'd be fortunate enough to hear how those pricey cant-affordables sound...
more popcorn! pusta pusta na oooo~ lol jk :roll: para sa yo~ ang pedal na too~
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 01, 2006, 06:33:53 PM
Sorry mga boss, I will not make it on the 18th. I am trying to organize one with Exile in their warehouse which is really long overdue so that we can set up more than 10 boutique or high end setups from other people too. Dont know if it will be private. Hinihintay lang mga iba pang boutique at high end amps from others. Idea is for participants to play on their own guitars into each set up and decide what sounds better for themselves. Or play into one set-up cycling thru a lot guitars to determine which guitars sound best.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: chito_eoi on December 01, 2006, 07:15:32 PM
pls invite me OAS? i would love to hear those gears, though dito ko lang tlga sila nabasa and narinig sa forum
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: plugzzzz on December 01, 2006, 08:13:13 PM
hmmm thats nice OAS pro sana open for all kahit may entrance fee... para makarinig naman kami ng highend stuff na hirap hagilapin dito satin...tapos mag papasok si BAMF ng kanyang mga gawa nyan magic box and amp ahihihihi...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: deltaslim on December 01, 2006, 09:03:52 PM
I'll stay away from the circus side-show since other people have eloquently argued the point (n times)...
I've tried a Marshall Hot Box, in the late 90s I think... In fact, I'm 99% sure it's the same exact Hot Box that Oas acquired, handed down from one owner to another (notice Oas didn't brag about how hard to get it this time?).
My review: I hated it. Clean channel tone wasn't as tubey and meaty as a BF Fender or Vox, and it was noisy. The OD channel was buzzy, fuzzy, and again noisy. Sounded like very bad preamp clipping (as opposed to power amp). Not amp-like at all. I may be wrong but it didn't sound to me like a simple tube swap would have solved all its tonal shortcomings.
As for Oas review... I've seen and heard him play through his own bowteek stuff. All I can say is that what sounds good to him and what sounds good to me are VERY DIFFERENT. So I always take his reviews with one salop of salt. YMMV - baka pareho kayo ng tastes eh.
Btw, if that's the same Hotbox, I think it was selling for about 15k when it was bnew. Since kids buy Boss mfx twice that price these days, I wouldn't brand it as for the 'financially challenged' only. (So part of the reason the thread title is insulting is because it makes erroneous assumptions about other people's spending capacity :-)) But since the Hotbox itself sucks, I would indeed call it expensive cuz "hindi sulit".
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: nathanmanansala on December 01, 2006, 09:53:03 PM
still, its a cool thread. i think i'll start one of my own. "Off The Shelf Pedal Review: DS1 -- Not for the musically inept"
:-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oloc on December 01, 2006, 10:02:36 PM
As for Oas review... I've seen and heard him play through his own bowteek stuff. All I can say is that what sounds good to him and what sounds good to me are VERY DIFFERENT. So I always take his reviews with one salop of salt.
tsk tsk tsk.... to think how oas always brags about his impeccable taste for that blissful tone he describes as "magical"...
he even has the balls to say na may epekto lang ang mga zillion dollars worth of gear kung lahat ng point ng signal chain eh zillion dollars worth din. nag upgrade ng zillion dollars block, zillion dollars cables, zillions dollars pedal and zillion dollars amp, pati na nga mastodon nuts na zillion dollars din... pero hindi parin nag upgrade ng skill level...
one thing na hindi maintindihan ni oas, may silbi lang ang mga zillion dollars gear kung hindi na maka sabay ang mga normal gear sa level of skills at musical quality na lumalabas sa kamay nung guitarist. eh bano ka pa nga tumugtog, wala ka nang ginawa kung hindi mag angas that your stuff are not for financially challenged.
this particular review not only shows how self-conceited you are when it comes to your financial status, this also proves how ignorant you are when it comes to technical details of your zillion dollar gear. nakakita ka lang ng kakaibang capacitor, nataranta ka na? how many times you mentioned na specially made yung mga caps na ginamit sa hotbox? do you even know kung bakit ginamit yun dun???
punasan mo ng pera mo yang laway mo... tumutulo...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: nathanmanansala on December 01, 2006, 10:16:47 PM
easy lang, dude 8-)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oloc on December 01, 2006, 10:28:51 PM
ooopss... sorry sir nathan.. medyo tensionado sa work eh.. hehehe... just finished the prototypes of 3 tube based pedals... tube overdrive, tube distortion, tube tremolo... im working on tube wah... hybrid na yung tube wah for sure.
medyo nakakairita lang yung mga taong nagyayabang about something which he doesnt even understand why it's there in the first place...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: deltaslim on December 01, 2006, 10:30:58 PM
oloc - note that all i said is magkaiba kami ng idea ng "good tone" ha. some people might have similar tastes in tone as oas. doesn't imply one is better than the other. i added a YMMV disclaimer in my post.
but, having said that, i happen to think that the most important component in the tone chain is the player himself -- how he tweaks the sound of his gtr and amp to get the desired tone in his head, and how his technique (fingers) draw it out of the gear. that's how you can account for gtr players sounding like themselve through other setups...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: stratman1 on December 02, 2006, 12:58:35 AM
Langya... nobela nanaman ang thread na ito :lol:.
Pag si Oas ang nag umpisa... alang paltos na entertaining ang kalalabasan :-D.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: R0B1EP061 on December 02, 2006, 02:41:58 AM
ooopss... sorry sir nathan.. medyo tensionado sa work eh.. hehehe... just finished the prototypes of 3 tube based pedals... tube overdrive, tube distortion, tube tremolo... im working on tube wah... hybrid na yung tube wah for sure.
medyo nakakairita lang yung mga taong nagyayabang about something which he doesnt even understand why it's there in the first place...
dude musta na? i havent heard from you in a while?!?!?! ano bibilin ko na yung tube pedal na dinedesigen mo para sakin! tuloy pa ba tayo sa tube amp/midi switching capability project natin?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: alroyT on December 02, 2006, 04:59:25 AM
OASS JUst browsing when i saw another condescending thread.You gotta give it to this guy,his inferiority complex is all over the place.Crab mentality permeates every spore of his body.You think your Art Thompson who gives expert reviews on gear and instruments?Who gave you such merit to review?Guitar mag,Guitar World?Dont put down your fellow pinoys im sure they KNOW better than you. But if you love the idea of people bashing at you (it's sick) then have a ball!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: kawayan_strat on December 02, 2006, 05:56:20 AM
You think your Art Thompson who gives expert reviews on gear and instruments?Who gave you such merit to review?Guitar mag,Guitar World?
he gives reviews based on his own gear and purchases.i think he is entitled and capable of doing that.kahit na di xa makapag post ng clips.(given na yun!)i think he's credible naman when it comes to owning(owning lang ha) some of the high end botique gears here in philmusic. try to search the old threads:wink:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: alroyT on December 02, 2006, 06:34:31 AM
Of course everyone is entitled to post anything here.Question is does it hold water?U gotta back it up man,it's like my mom will review my dual recti and of course my mutha will post clips so that readers can actually hear what's she talkin about right,then opinions will be appreciated.How can I give my 2 cent if there's no credible reference.
not single frigin photo ergo its all [gooey brown stuff].
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Phil on December 02, 2006, 07:22:49 AM
well I do a bit of review and post my own original clips so that the readers can at least hear what I'm talking about...right guys? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 07:30:29 AM
Deltaslim,
Yup. Its the same unit. You are right it sounded like yuck on the stock sovtek tube. I did not like it. I even thought this must be one of those over hyped Matchless Boutique crap, But one tube did it right...
Why don't you ask our common friend? He was witness when we switched the tube. We were both shocked. And our common friend also hated the sound with the stock sovtek tube.
If you only stopped being biased against me for a moment and recognize the fact that you and the previous owner did not try switching tubes, so hindi niyo na-test ng mabuti.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 07:35:27 AM
chito and plugzzz,
No problem. Let me just get some time to organize. Busy kasi iyung kilala ko sa Exile kaya I have to wait and get his permission.
We plan to have drums and bass and whatever with a real pro-band to play backup. Mayroon na nga nag-volunteer.
If ever may fee, its just to cover the food because tests like these really will take the whole day from early morning to night time. I plan to get Arie's wife to cater.
BAMF is welcome to bring his stuff.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 07:45:53 AM
Oloc,
If you can produce good gear and I like it, then I will buy and post a favorable review for your work. If its not, I will post my opinion on them. The issue I have on you is for you to prove that what you make sounds good and it has nothing to do with my zillions which I do not have and my guitar playing. It is not that I do not sympathize with people who have normal gear as you would proclaim pero nadaanan ko na ang mga iyon and I will tell you there are very few normal guitar gear that impress me because I can find something better. Maski na hindi natin pagusapan ang presyo, for a majority of normal mass produced guitar gear, I can recommend something that sounds better. On the other hand, there are some expensive stuff that only perform as well as regular mass produced gear.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: cumbersome on December 02, 2006, 07:46:45 AM
Oas,
Wow. Sounds awesome. I hope i'm invited, hahaha, although i have a feeling that the guitar monsters here will impress me so much more than the gear. :)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Poundcake on December 02, 2006, 07:48:54 AM
oy tone party.. pwede ba ako sumama dyan Alex? i'll just bring some pedals and probably my retubed amp head :)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Avayaman on December 02, 2006, 07:53:40 AM
Maski na hindi natin pagusapan ang presyo, for a majority of normal mass produced guitar gear, I can recommend something that sounds better. On the other hand, there are some expensive stuff that only perform as well as regular mass produced gear.
+1
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 07:54:51 AM
Deltaslilm,
This was a thread reviewing the Matchless Hot Box and NOT a treatise on good tone. Granted that the guitarist is the numero uno factor for everything, I am not reviewing a guitarist. Even you will sound like you on almost anything but the question remains is if you are happy with your sound on ANYTHING. I post the same question sa iyo, bakit ka hindi bumili ng RJ guitar instead of your new tele?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: titser_marco on December 02, 2006, 08:04:13 AM
@Oas:
Do you think it would help if you would use "timbre" instead of "tone" or "sound" to explain your point better and minimize semantic discrepancies? "Tone" and "sound" are such loaded words for me and they can work on so many levels - whether referring to timbre or something else.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Avayaman on December 02, 2006, 08:11:37 AM
Do you think it would help if you would use "timbre" instead of "tone" or "sound" to explain your point better and minimize semantic discrepancies? "Tone" and "sound" are such loaded words for me and they can work on so many levels - whether referring to timbre or something else.
AMEN!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 08:12:21 AM
Alroy T,
I do not put down Pinoys. If you read threads here I swear by my friend luthier and lately I even praised somebody in Audiophile for his service. Also, on rare occasion, I was even impressed by the Bloomfields and I praised them on this forum even if they were out of my preferred genre. But on the other hand, I criticize bad Pinoy service or products. There are also imported products that really suck but I avoid posting reviews because a lot of people are sensitive. The imported products that suck only get bashed when I review something that is good. After all that has been said, my opinions are just that if you want to leave it at that.
My experiences are actually hit and miss. Just recently, I replaced the sovtek 12ax7 of my SLO with a NOS. It sounded better. Don't know why, it just does. On the other hand, I was really excited to try out a set of pickups by a boutique manufacturer (legendary American pickup winder with his own book) who I was hoping would blow away Bareknuckles. Wrong... It was ABed and now I and my luthier friend have better appreciation of our BK pickups.
I review gear by actual live sound not by pictures.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: oloc on December 02, 2006, 08:31:45 AM
dude musta na? i havent heard from you in a while?!?!?! ano bibilin ko na yung tube pedal na dinedesigen mo para sakin! tuloy pa ba tayo sa tube amp/midi switching capability project natin?
tapos na yung prototypes ng mga tube pedals sir ROB, astig din yung design na ginawa ng kasama ko sa mga chassis. gothic ang theme... kung makakapasyal ka sa coming NAMMN show, makikita mo dun yung launching ng pedals. after ng launching, usap tayo kung pano makakarating sayo yung pedal. re: universal midi switcher for tube amps, wala pa ko makitang servo controller na sakto sa application natin sir... more research pa.
ok na ko dito oas, since you're ready to A/B your gear with sir BAMF's works, i will be in peace. idol ko tong si sir BAMF. im totally confident that he's the best representative for the DIY community when your tone party happens.
hindi mo pwede review mga gawa ko, CAUSE MY WORKS ARE NOT FOR THIRD WORLD COUNTRY PEOPLE...
nyahahaha!!!! how's that for being politically incorrect???
weekend na. enjoy tayo sa vacation guys. peace!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 08:33:55 AM
Titser Marco,
OK... I will try. For every piece of gear, I review it in terms of "timbre" and character. I put less emphasis on "timbre" because as you acquire gear you can almost get any timbre. Even if you buy a multi-fx unit right now, it has plenty of timbre selections. What I look for in gear is character... just a general rundown of what I look for in gear:
1) Pickups - 3 dimensionsal sound. Pick attack is distinct from sustaining note. Even on clean you can do lead lines because it just sounds rich in fundamental overtones. You can back off the volume without losing highs on your pick attack. 2) Hardware - No mid hump and improved bell like presence on guitar that you dont get from a presence knob adjustment. Also, it makes you think you were playing a lighter gauge in terms of ease of playing. 3) Amps - clarity on distortion, punch and 3d soundstage that surrounds you instead of just being in front of you. Malambot and Malagkit ang tunog. 4) Instrument Cables - Again 3d sound staging, increased volume and balanced frequency response. 5) Speaker Cables - Increased clarity for the amp. Softens the sound. 6) Effects - voicings that tickle the ear and adds some kind of punch that makes you want to leave the pedal on forever. 7) Guitar wood -- wood that sings when bending notes. Rich sound with lots of fundamental (take note that I don't mean bassy here). Clarity of notes. Most important, you dont want to ever put it down.
I am not a Guitar Player reviewer because I don't get paid by any sponsors. I try to review things on a different level beyond timbre and specifications because timbre and specifications dont inspire us to play guitar but rather other qualities that touch the soul.
So, in the case of the Matchless Hot Box, you can achieve different timbre variations by changing tubes but if you find the right tube you just want to leave it on because it just enriches your clean sound and gives you a fat/malagkit overdrive sound specially on strats. Its has a uniquely different fat malagkit sound that you cannot get with a Les Paul.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 08:41:38 AM
Oloc,
At least I am better than a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY CITIZEN trying to fit into a FIRST WORLD COUNTRY... and pretending to be a FIRST WORLD CITIZEN. At least I pay taxes to the Philippine government ...
Nya ha ha ha. Hows that for politically correct? By the way, don't forget to remit your dollars if any. I really need it to maintain my Third World Country Citizenship because without them this Third World country will degenerate to being a Fourth world mendicant.
Have a great weekend... Peace...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: abyssinianson on December 02, 2006, 08:58:41 AM
damn...ang bigat..syet. I am really speechless. Seriously, I don't think there is anything with being a 3rd world country citizen but, heck, what do I know...I am way younger than OAS. I do, however, have a problem with the status of being a 3rd world country citizen AND being screwed by politicians who shovel money into their houses without doing what they were hired to do in the first place: be public servants. I have said it once and I will say it again, a purging of Filipino politicians who have not done their job well is in order.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: oloc on December 02, 2006, 09:05:54 AM
oas,
Filipinos outside the philippines never try fit into whatever country they are in. and not one decent Filipino pretends to be a first world citizen.
wherever we are, the place fits with us. no pretensions atleast from us... the whole world loves us, we cant do anything with that.
utak mo lang naman ang limited ng boundaries oas, for the rest of us, the whole world is small enough to be called "home"...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Machine_Head on December 02, 2006, 10:55:42 AM
1) Pickups - 3 dimensionsal sound. Pick attack is distinct from sustaining note. Even on clean you can do lead lines because it just sounds rich in fundamental overtones. You can back off the volume without losing highs on your pick attack.
Oas, medyo ot lang, have you come across any pups that are inexpensive yet you think sound relatively good? It may not be the best, but more like something a regular joe can afford.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: SDMF on December 02, 2006, 11:11:06 AM
Filipinos outside the philippines never try fit into whatever country their in. and not one decent Filipino pretends to be a first world citizen.
wherever we are, the place fits with us. no pretensions atleast from us... the whole world loves us, we cant do anything with that.........
Ganda naman ng sinabi mo, and I have to agree. 8-)
Sa experience ko dito sa tate, yung discrmination among different races or color of your skin, lalo na sa financial status kung mayaman or mahirap mas malala talaga sa Asian countries kaysa dito sa West. When I get together with my Asian friends, each of us have to admit na ganyan talaga sa Asia like China, Pakistan, India at sa atin sa Philippines.
Ang isa sa napatunayan ko dito sa West, kapag MATALINO ka yuyuko sayo mga tao kahit anong panget ng itsura or kulay mo. (Modesty aside ha, Pucha! pero pogi ako. :-D complete package ba, hehehe! :-D)
When I went for a 2 week vacation in the Phil last July, one of my friends told me one the best compliments I ever heard. When I was away, he said that the Cingular managers told them this:
"When Mike speaks up, everybody shuts the [strawberry] up and listen! When this guy starts to talk, he really goes down to every technical details that everybody will back off. So you'll know that he knows what he's talking about."
Kaya yan ang nagustuhan ko dito sa labas, basta may pinag-aralan at masipag mayroong nararating. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: leech on December 02, 2006, 11:15:02 AM
1) Pickups - 3 dimensionsal sound. Pick attack is distinct from sustaining note. Even on clean you can do lead lines because it just sounds rich in fundamental overtones. You can back off the volume without losing highs on your pick attack.
Oas, medyo ot lang, have you come across any pups that are inexpensive yet you think sound relatively good? It may not be the best, but more like something a regular joe can afford.
bro, knowing OAS, he wouldnt even bother looking at it.... :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: deltaslim on December 02, 2006, 11:18:31 AM
Yup. Its the same unit. You are right it sounded like yuck on the stock sovtek tube. I did not like it. I even thought this must be one of those over hyped Matchless Boutique crap, But one tube did it right...
Why don't you ask our common friend? He was witness when we switched the tube. We were both shocked. And our common friend also hated the sound with the stock sovtek tube.
If you only stopped being biased against me for a moment and recognize the fact that you and the previous owner did not try switching tubes, so hindi niyo na-test ng mabuti.
Yup. Its the same unit. You are right it sounded like yuck on the stock sovtek tube. I did not like it. I even thought this must be one of those over hyped Matchless Boutique crap, But one tube did it right...
Why don't you ask our common friend? He was witness when we switched the tube. We were both shocked. And our common friend also hated the sound with the stock sovtek tube.
If you only stopped being biased against me for a moment and recognize the fact that you and the previous owner did not try switching tubes, so hindi niyo na-test ng mabuti.
If you reread my post, I had a disclaimer about the tube swap. But I believe I still wouldn't have liked the Hot Box cuz from experience I know how much impact a tube change can make. In the case of the Hot Box, a tube change will have made minor difference. I can hear something that can only be attributed to the circuit and how the 2 channels were designed that I didn't like. You can't make a Marshall sound like a Fender by sticking 6L6 where an EL34 should be.
Stop being biased? You're talking to me about bias? I try all sorts of stuff, even modellers -- which you make it a point to ridicule. Your thread title gives you away as one of the most biased Filipinos I know because you've pre-judged people already. Let me hear you produce good tone with your boutique gear first then maybe I can believe that what sounds good to you indeed sounds good after all. That's the only way my bias against your taste in tone will change. It's bad enough that you brag about your gear and put down 3rd world pinoys in the process; it's worse that undearneath it all I cringe at the thought of what "magical tone" your yaya, driver, hardinero, and sikyu have to hear day in and day out.
But don't think your special Oas. I love Adrian Belew but if he would lecture me about tone --fuggedaboutit!!! -- in through one ear and out of the other!!!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: deltaslim on December 02, 2006, 11:28:55 AM
This was a thread reviewing the Matchless Hot Box and NOT a treatise on good tone. Granted that the guitarist is the numero uno factor for everything, I am not reviewing a guitarist. Even you will sound like you on almost anything but the question remains is if you are happy with your sound on ANYTHING. I post the same question sa iyo, bakit ka hindi bumili ng RJ guitar instead of your new tele?
Bakit, meron bang branch ng RJ sa Singapore??? You are so boring - if I had a nickel for every time you asked that question... But here you are again yapping your mouth off about stuff you assume you know about people... Magpapakatsismoso ka na nga lang palpak pa!
For the record, my first good guitar was an RJ Guitar (Disipulo Roadtone). It was with me for most of the 90s and was used on countless gigs and on my first commercial recording with Soul Dredgers. So anong point mo? Ano??? Sagot!!!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Al_Librero on December 02, 2006, 11:40:11 AM
YEAH!!!! :evil:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: abyssinianson on December 02, 2006, 11:52:14 AM
Filipinos outside the philippines never try fit into whatever country their in. and not one decent Filipino pretends to be a first world citizen.
wherever we are, the place fits with us. no pretensions atleast from us... the whole world loves us, we cant do anything with that.........
Ganda naman ng sinabi mo, and I have to agree. 8-)
Sa experience ko dito sa tate, yung discrmination among different races or color of your skin, lalo na sa financial status kung mayaman or mahirap mas malala talaga sa Asian countries kaysa dito sa West. When I get together with my Asian friends, each of us have to admit na ganyan talaga sa Asia like China, Pakistan, India at sa atin sa Philippines.
Ang isa sa napatunayan ko dito sa West, kapag MATALINO ka yuyuko sayo mga tao kahit anong panget ng itsura or kulay mo. (Modesty aside ha, Pucha! pero pogi ako. :-D complete package ba, hehehe! :-D)
When I went for a 2 week vacation in the Phil last July, one of my friends told me one the best compliments I ever heard. When I was away, he said that the Cingular managers told them this:
"When Mike speaks up, everybody shuts the [strawberry] up and listen! When this guy starts to talk, he really goes down to every technical details that everybody will back off. So you'll know that he knows what he's talking about."
Kaya yan ang nagustuhan ko dito sa labas, basta may pinag-aralan at masipag mayroong nararating. :mrgreen:
Hahaha! Si SDMF pogi! Pogarts! Musta na ang New Orleans, man? Balita daw grabe na ang crime ngayon:( Pero nga, totoo ang sabi mo about sa abilidad na grabe ang value, especially sa Tate. I am not just saying that because Pinoy ako, or one time citizen ako sa Pinas (I've since naturalized many years ago), but it really is true, especially sa academics at sa medicine of which I have been a part of for quite a while now. Proof? I see it all the time sa Harvard at sa Brigham Women's hospital where some of the best academic minds and physicians (people I genuinely like AND call colleagues and friends) of all nationalities and races get together to work together towards improving healthcare.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 12:21:04 PM
Abyss,
I agree with you... The politicians here are the number one cause of people having to leave the country to make a living. I think they should be shot. Walang opportunity dahil sa kanila. So, I really hope you are doing better there because a lot of people here dont have the same opportunity as you have.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 12:23:47 PM
Machine Head,
2nd hand prices ng Duncan, DiMarzio or even EMG. Recently, I heard a pickup from Greco Super Real which I heard to be great.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 12:27:35 PM
So Oloc,
Cant you take a joke? Nagjoke ka na Third World dito, eh nagjoke ako which you took seriously. So, when was the last time you paid taxes to the Philippine government?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: toybitz on December 02, 2006, 12:42:00 PM
Remember the strat you were trying to sell? I even wanted to make sure that you were sure with what you were doing because I felt that I should not just get a good sounding guitar from you without you knowing how I felt about it. You were very demanding then.
oasgomez,
And since you bring up the topic of my strat... this is all I will say for the record. I brought that in to Arie to check the electricals since it was grounded, due to my own crappy soldering skills. I did tell Arie that I would likely be selling it, and that is why I wanted him to fix the grounding. I had expected to go back to the shop, pay for the service, and get back my guitar, and evaluate from there. That it passed from Arie to you without it coming back to me first is what lifted my eyebrow and made me ask for its return. Demanding, you say? Uh uh, sir.
naku po, kun sa akin nanyari ito, hee nigh blad na ko.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: abyssinianson on December 02, 2006, 12:47:07 PM
I agree with you... The politicians here are the number one cause of people having to leave the country to make a living. I think they should be shot. Walang opportunity dahil sa kanila. So, I really hope you are doing better there because a lot of people here dont have the same opportunity as you have.
Personally, and I know a ton of people that agree with me who happen to be non-Filipinos, that politicians in the Philippines really put a number on a lot of the people who have great abilities in music, art, business, science, and other trades but can't do squat because political families basically keep the power in their own circles while the rest of the country struggles to make ends meet. I am not fine with this and a lot of what I do, and have done as I've gotten older has been to have a component of it be applicable to the Philippines - maybe not in the immediate future, but maybe someday if I get the chance to apply it. Granted, science, medicine and research costs money but if one can't do the actual R&D on homesoil, at least some part of foreign training ought to be given back home to help usher progress a bit faster, with more focus. If there is something Pinoys excel at, it is managing what we have to get something to work to the best of our situation. However, there is the limiting factor of politicians - old school politicians - who are backwards thinkers and not willing to stick their neck out for a country that can do so much if given the chance and resources to realize their ideas. I really do think that the concept of "public servant" was lost on Filipino politicians a long, long time ago. I don't know what Macapagal has done recently but there ought to be more ruffling of feathers to move the country's progress at light speed. I know if I were President, I wouldn't do tours, I wouldn't even do the usual dignitary crap...I'd work like everyone else (in jeans and a shirt, preferably) while tapping into every blasted resource we've got to offer to make the country work better instead of screwing over millions of people. Oh yeah, I'd make a national holiday called "National Tone Party Day." lol. I don't have any concept of how our politicians can sleep well at night knowing they are not doing what they are being paid to do...
Now, how this - all of my ranting - exactly relates to the Matchless Hotbox is beyond me. Just my dos centavos...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 12:50:40 PM
Deltaslim,
So, have you heard the Matchless Hot Box with a Brimar 12at7 instead of a Sovtek 12ax7? If not, Ok ka rin magAssess -- virtual sound ka parang modeler. Heh Heh. I dont care if you dont like it. I am just saying it was a major difference and wala ka sa position to say na hindi major dahil hindi mo naman narinig and pagkakaiba. Gusto mo pa kausapin mo ang dalawang tao sa banda mo na parehong nakarinig ng epekto ng tube swap. Tinulungan pa nga nila ako magassess at mamili. The Matchless Hot Box sounds like a Matchless Hot Box, wala naman ditong attempt to make it a 100% Vox AC30.
Do you think doing a sound demonstration to you is worthwhile? It ain't kasi sasabihin mo naman na kanya kanya lang iyan. If you read the thread, I never claimed that the Matchless Hot Box is the best sounding overdrive pedal in the world and I even cautioned people that there are solid state overdrives that also sound good. I am just giving kudos to this Matchless design which you disagree with which is fine by me.
Me put down 3rd world Pinoys? Tayo nga ang na-put down ni Oloc as a joke.
Also, maski na may RJ sa Singapore, hindi ka pa rin bibili doon dahil kung dito hindi ka nga bumili, doon pa? Ang tanong ko lang sa iyo kung pareho lang lahat iyan bakit mo pinakawalan ang RJ na ginamit mo kung talagang maganda iyon? At kung talagang maganda ang RJ bakit wala kang RJ ngayon na mas kilala ka na? As you said, its the guitarist that matters pero hindi ka naman naka RJ ngayon. Hindi ito tsismis kundi tanong lang.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 12:56:56 PM
Abyss,
I am not for GMA myself and I wish she was out to the point that I am willing to have Noli as president.
There was a complaint by the ADB that there is massive brain drain in the Philippines. And I for one dont think so because I said that it helps develop the most capable Filipinos and hoping when they come back here they become world class professionals and leaders and instill pride back to Filipinos who are not as talented. They way I see it, you and the rest who go abroad to work are the new middle class that this country needs to survive and develop. So cheers to your success abroad....
Just my 4 centavos...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: abyssinianson on December 02, 2006, 01:10:56 PM
I am not for GMA myself and I wish she was out to the point that I am willing to have Noli as president.
There was a complaint by the ADB that there is massive brain drain in the Philippines. And I for one dont think so because I said that it helps develop the most capable Filipinos and hoping when they come back here they become world class professionals and leaders and instill pride back to Filipinos who are not as talented. They way I see it, you and the rest who go abroad to work are the new middle class that this country needs to survive and develop. So cheers to your success abroad....
Just my 4 centavos...
I always wondered about the upper class since they usually get schooled abroad anyway, and in Europe mostly. What do they do for the country other than go back, run their filthy rich family business and lock everyone else's progress out of the loop? I have some relatives that went to school in Europe (Sorbonne and Gottingen) and went back home to do work in the hospital and academic settings but I've since lost touch with them so I can't say exactly how much they've applied into their work to make things better somehow. I guess as middle class people you try and instigate change where you can if you have the ability to do so but, as with most things at home, change is hard to sell to the higher ups who control the movement of money. Haayyyyyy....ang buhay...buti na lang merong mga tone party at beer.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: oloc on December 02, 2006, 01:14:26 PM
Cant you take a joke? Nagjoke ka na Third World dito, eh nagjoke ako which you took seriously. So, when was the last time you paid taxes to the Philippine government?
ofcourse i can take a joke. this thread is a big joke to start with... i dont know anyone who takes you seriously here in this forum oas. as far as i know, you're the biggest joke here.
sabi nga nila sa kabilang thread, it would somehow be a bit lonely here without you.
joke joke joke!!! :wink:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: BAMF on December 02, 2006, 01:17:21 PM
I'm starting to believe Marx. Not his thesis but his analysis of things.
And it makes me see...the poor are a necessity for any capitalist society to survive. And if there are no more poor people with zero egos and will wash some richer man's ass for peanuts, they will let the immigrants in who will. :D.
That's why Jesus himself said "the poor shall always be with us". They are a structural necessity for any free market economy.
Think about it.
Teka...bat ba tayo napunta sa ganun ?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: nathanmanansala on December 02, 2006, 01:26:43 PM
i'd play an RJ. they're pretty good these days. pero i'd scrape of the decal and put on a "fender" sticker. :-D
its an image thing. besides, if the guys at yupangco see me playing something other than a fender, they'd terminate my contract.
hah! i kill me! :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: abyssinianson on December 02, 2006, 01:29:23 PM
I'm starting to believe Marx. Not his thesis but his analysis of things.
And it makes me see...the poor are a necessity for any capitalist society to survive. And if there are no more poor people with zero egos and will wash some richer man's ass for peanuts, they will let the immigrants in who will. :D.
That's why Jesus himself said "the poor shall always be with us". They are a structural necessity for any free market economy.
Think about it.
Teka...bat ba tayo napunta sa ganun ?
Hahah...yun nga! Yeah, I admire the theory of the communist government pero it is idealistic, at best. It is a model that does not exist in reality due to limitations of the needs for an economy, for one. Even the Chinese version of Communism includes a capitalist component to it further illustrating that Capitalism is a necessity to promote a trade flow. Oh well, the way I see things, there ought to be a "pakikisama" frame of mind between those that are in a position of power at home to usher progress by ultilizing the best our country has to offer intellectually, and in the labor market - specialize and treat the country as a whole, not as fragments of seriously stratified rich and poor people, you know? Everyone has a role to contribute to make things better, I think, even if seriously bulok ka - you must be good at something other than inuman at palaging matulog..lol.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: eders19 on December 02, 2006, 02:04:37 PM
o naging pulitika na ang usapan hahaha!
while we could say that we would do things differently if we were president, we could never give an actual forecast of what we would or wouldn't do till we are actually there...
people can keep saying that politicians are like the devil, they are still human just like us which therefore implies that, just like them, we are subject to their shortcomings and sins as well...
but till then, let's shake our fists hard and rant hahahaha :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: SDMF on December 02, 2006, 02:19:26 PM
Filipinos outside the philippines never try fit into whatever country their in. and not one decent Filipino pretends to be a first world citizen.
wherever we are, the place fits with us. no pretensions atleast from us... the whole world loves us, we cant do anything with that.........
Ganda naman ng sinabi mo, and I have to agree. 8-)
Sa experience ko dito sa tate, yung discrmination among different races or color of your skin, lalo na sa financial status kung mayaman or mahirap mas malala talaga sa Asian countries kaysa dito sa West. When I get together with my Asian friends, each of us have to admit na ganyan talaga sa Asia like China, Pakistan, India at sa atin sa Philippines.
Ang isa sa napatunayan ko dito sa West, kapag MATALINO ka yuyuko sayo mga tao kahit anong panget ng itsura or kulay mo. (Modesty aside ha, Pucha! pero pogi ako. :-D complete package ba, hehehe! :-D)
When I went for a 2 week vacation in the Phil last July, one of my friends told me one the best compliments I ever heard. When I was away, he said that the Cingular managers told them this:
"When Mike speaks up, everybody shuts the [strawberry] up and listen! When this guy starts to talk, he really goes down to every technical details that everybody will back off. So you'll know that he knows what he's talking about."
Kaya yan ang nagustuhan ko dito sa labas, basta may pinag-aralan at masipag mayroong nararating. :mrgreen:
Hahaha! Si SDMF pogi! Pogarts! Musta na ang New Orleans, man? Balita daw grabe na ang crime ngayon:( ..........
Nyahaha! :-D Okay naman dito, medyo tumataas nga raw sabi ng officemate ko. Siguro sign yan na nakaka-recover na ang New Orleans, baka nagbabalikan na ung mga itim. :-P Malamang tataas lalo crime rate dito hanggang Feb, panu malapit Mardi Gras na ulit. :evil:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 02:31:52 PM
Oloc,
I know quite a number of people who take me seriously and that just shows you don't know a lot.
But I am glad to be of some entertainment value to people with hurt egos with fixed mind sets and I am glad also to be of service to people who are humble enough to want to learn. Either way, happy naman tayo lahat...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: deltaslim on December 02, 2006, 05:59:41 PM
So, have you heard the Matchless Hot Box with a Brimar 12at7 instead of a Sovtek 12ax7? If not, Ok ka rin magAssess -- virtual sound ka parang modeler. Heh Heh. I dont care if you dont like it. I am just saying it was a major difference and wala ka sa position to say na hindi major dahil hindi mo naman narinig and pagkakaiba. Gusto mo pa kausapin mo ang dalawang tao sa banda mo na parehong nakarinig ng epekto ng tube swap. Tinulungan pa nga nila ako magassess at mamili. The Matchless Hot Box sounds like a Matchless Hot Box, wala naman ditong attempt to make it a 100% Vox AC30.
Do you think doing a sound demonstration to you is worthwhile? It ain't kasi sasabihin mo naman na kanya kanya lang iyan. If you read the thread, I never claimed that the Matchless Hot Box is the best sounding overdrive pedal in the world and I even cautioned people that there are solid state overdrives that also sound good. I am just giving kudos to this Matchless design which you disagree with which is fine by me.
Me put down 3rd world Pinoys? Tayo nga ang na-put down ni Oloc as a joke.
Also, maski na may RJ sa Singapore, hindi ka pa rin bibili doon dahil kung dito hindi ka nga bumili, doon pa? Ang tanong ko lang sa iyo kung pareho lang lahat iyan bakit mo pinakawalan ang RJ na ginamit mo kung talagang maganda iyon? At kung talagang maganda ang RJ bakit wala kang RJ ngayon na mas kilala ka na? As you said, its the guitarist that matters pero hindi ka naman naka RJ ngayon. Hindi ito tsismis kundi tanong lang.
anak ng tupa - ano daw??? and dami mong dada pero wala ka pa ring punto! you just repeat what you already said without digesting what people say! hindi ka ba marunong magbasa??? why are you still talking about tube change when i already said several times that what i don't like about the Hot Box has nothing to do with tubes? and what are you going on about RJ? kaaway mo ba si RJ? take your beef w/ RJ in his store, not here. if only you didn't have selective memory, you would know why i had to retire and give up my RJ gtr as a gift to a nephew. but what do i care -- you are famous for making ignorant assumptions.
don't try to divert the issue by saying that your point is that tube swaps make a difference. that's so lame. in any case, you don't need to convince me about the effect of tube swaps. i'm not saying i'm THE expert on tubes, pero kumpara sa yo, "wala ka sa position mag-assess" no! (how does a dose of your own medicine feel?)
tama ka, hindi worthwhile kung magpa-sound demonstration IKAW. kasi kahit ano opinyon ng iba, iinsist mo pa rin ang iyo eh, ikaw pa rin ang tama. and i quote you: "sasabihin mo naman na kanya kanya lang iyan." only someone who believes his own opinion is the only one that matters can say such a stupid thing. feeling omniscient ka talaga eh no?
haaay naku... dami mo pera pang gear, magtabi ka naman pambili ng konting common sense at netiquette, pwede???
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 07:04:40 PM
Deltaslim,
Ang galing mo nga mag attribute sa circuit design pero hindi mo naman napalitan and tube so how would you know which change was because of the tube and what remained the same as the circuit? Again, I think you are a virtual modeler of some sort. So, this question na lang, what would a Brimar 12at7 do to my Matchless Hot Box's sound?
Good, you can borrow your RJ guitar from you nephew anytime and play it on gigs. Supposing its not around anymore, why dont you go out and buy a new RJ guitar that sounds great instead of buying a used Epiphone SG and selling it again later in less than a month?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oloc on December 02, 2006, 07:11:33 PM
anak ng tupa - ano daw??? and dami mong dada pero wala ka pa ring punto! you just repeat what you already said without digesting what people say! hindi ka ba marunong magbasa??? ....
....feeling omniscient ka talaga eh no?
haaay naku... dami mo pera pang gear, magtabi ka naman pambili ng konting common sense at netiquette, pwede???
sir deltaslim, now its my time to remind you to take it easy... look sir oh, joke joke mode na nga si oas... quite a number of people take him seriously daw... :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: juwanfidle09 on December 02, 2006, 07:16:09 PM
uhmmm... sometimes guys with the best gear do suck eggs... :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: deltaslim on December 02, 2006, 07:53:44 PM
Ang galing mo nga mag attribute sa circuit design pero hindi mo naman napalitan and tube so how would you know which change was because of the tube and what remained the same as the circuit? Again, I think you are a virtual modeler of some sort. So, this question na lang, what would a Brimar 12at7 do to my Matchless Hot Box's sound?
By asking that question you proved my point that you still have a lot to learn about stuff you are bragging you have knowledge on. Heto ang clue: aralin mo and difference ng 12at7 and 12ax7. Regardlesss of brands, you will know what impact the swap will make. The most basic concepts you should know first about preamp tubes: gain and transconductance. Research mo muna yan, ok?
Me a virtual modeller? Maybe my experience in buying and testing hundreds of preamp and output in dozens of amps over the years count for something? At one point my tube stash amounted to what your Diezel Herbert is worth!!! Ikaw pa nga ang virtual modeller e: you have one experience changing preamp tubes and suddenly pass yourself off as a tone messiah preaching gospel from your pulpit/pedestal. Mag try ka muna ng marami at mas matagal para masabi mo na may experience and knowledge ka talaga. Virtual modeller daw.... tsk tsk... look who's talking...
Quote
Good, you can borrow your RJ guitar from you nephew anytime and play it on gigs. Supposing its not around anymore, why dont you go out and buy a new RJ guitar that sounds great instead of buying a used Epiphone SG and selling it again later in less than a month?
Still talking about RJ, I see. Ang kulit, di ko talaga ma-gets and point mo!
Unlike you, but like most people, I don't have money to burn and have to sell stuff to buy new stuff. And since you like repeating that question like a broken record, let's turn the tables... If I were to judge YOU on your own acquisitions, I'd say why not sell all your gear if their main function is to be a trophy to brag about (eg thread, "1st Diezel Herbert in the Philippines") and impress your financial capacity on the "have nots" (eg thread, "Not for the financially challenged"). Judging from your posts, it doesn't seem like music-making is high in your priority. Kung di thread title, sa first paragraph pa lang pera at access na agad ang pinaguusapan eh.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: jayzZEe on December 02, 2006, 08:04:59 PM
and the saga continues.... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: abyssinianson on December 02, 2006, 08:30:02 PM
di ba? Grabe meng...i just know these 2 things: i like to play music and I have used enough tubes, in enough amps (mainstream and not) to know that swapping, rebiasing, or even undervolting the thing will produce different sounds. I've only owned 2 solid state amps: a Randall RG100H (Dime's amp of choice in Pantera) and an early gen Line 6 Vetta head which is cool in its own right. I don't care about how much I've spent on gear, or how much I will continue to spend until I am fed up, throw everything to the wind and become a monk! The bottom line is: I like playing guitar (or other instruments); I really like it a lot and it ain't cool to belittle people if they can't afford stuff. If they can play, or at least are enthusiastic about playing music then, we are cool:)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: skunkyfunk on December 02, 2006, 08:34:18 PM
I know quite a number of people who take me seriously and that just shows you don't know a lot.
But I am glad to be of some entertainment value to people with hurt egos with fixed mind sets and I am glad also to be of service to people who are humble enough to want to learn. Either way, happy naman tayo lahat...
Man you don't have to be a sacrificial lamb, you know. The people here wanna learn, it's just that, they want you to talk their language.
For the longest time I used to post on the Harmony Central forums, which I guess is 98% responsible for my GAS afflictions, and in all honesty, I feel it is a much better learning place than the Pinoy forums, save for the rudeness of some of the HC forum members. Pinoys are way too balat-sibuyas, so a little segway might work when you express something.
You may save 10 minutes dissing someone's gear choices by being a straight shooter, but in the end, being a bit kind spending 10 more minutes with some sweet talking and side-stepping works much better. Why? Because at least they know you care. By being a straight-shooter, the instantaneous reaction converges to desentment. Consider being in the recording business. How do you tell a client that his guitar set-up sucks? How do you tell a client to use the studio amp instead of his crappy Digitech RP6? If I had that attitude I should be out of business now.
Oo nga pala. YOU'RE NOT THE [pineapple] IN PERSON THE WAY PEOPLE KNOW YOU HERE. Maybe this is all part of your Paquito Diaz antics. :-P
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 02, 2006, 10:37:58 PM
Deltaslim,
So, anong effect ng Brimar 12at7 versus the stock Sovtek 12ax7 sa tunog ng Matchless ko given your experience, wealth of knowledge and US$4,000 worth of tubes? You better be specific because the Brimar is already installed. You claim its the circuit that you don't like about the Hot Box, so what has the Brimar done to the circuit? Describe to me the sound of my Hot Box now with the Brimar?
Wala akong intent to be a tone messiah. Bansag mo iyan sa akin. Since you had collected many tubes, ano na pala ang tube amp mo ngayon? Maybe I will just call you the tube messiah.
My point is since the last time you gave your RJ guitar to your nephew, you have never bought yourself another RJ guitar despite your good experience with it. Why is that? Ginamit mo na nga sa commercial recording di ba?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: sopwith on December 02, 2006, 11:51:45 PM
Interesting Topic and good / hostile responses :-D
Being the original owner of this Hot Box, All the things Alex found out from this pedal is all with hands on experience of the pedal .
Cloning this pedal will not do justice and be an insult to Mark Sampson (former head honcho of MATCHLESS) if your not using the same parts quality and then blame and decide it's [gooey brown stuff] and "not sulit."
The observer / user has a big big part in the outcome of the review.
The sum of all parts is always the difference.
Isn't it obvious that the SOVtek tube , because of inferior quality made the HOT BOX sound [gooey brown stuff], hindi sulit. While installing a great tube brought out the full potential of the HOT BOX.
Matchless is such a respected amp maker, so much that people resurrected it from bankruptcy. All the parts are truly hi quality, except for the tubes installed when they sell it. It's an option of the owner to install hi quality tubes in his gear.
This pedal is in the VOX tone territory. I used this with my Fender amps and dramatically changed my amp tone.
It's a great pedal, would want the latest version with a true bypass by either Matchless or Bad Cat. At 400.00 dollars, it's worth every cent.
You do get what you pay for this time around. :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: glassjaw_jc on December 03, 2006, 12:21:57 AM
question lang.... why would matchless put an "inferior" pre-amp tube if they're using "high quality" parts?
doesn't make sense to me
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Poundcake on December 03, 2006, 12:30:29 AM
ang tindi ni pareng Joric.. bluesman nga sya pero kung makipag-away, METAL! hupaw huhupaw! :lol:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: lykenhowl on December 03, 2006, 12:32:17 AM
question lang.... why would matchless put an "inferior" pre-amp tube if they're using "high quality" parts?
doesn't make sense to me
Yeah, And why buy it at such price and spend more in changing parts?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: stratman1 on December 03, 2006, 12:38:38 AM
Just like the Budda Phatman. Harmony Central rave review, not to the pedal stock but to the mod done for the pedal. Why would i spend more mod money for an already expensive bowteek gear?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: SDMF on December 03, 2006, 12:46:59 AM
Ung tube pedals ng Damage Control mukang nde nako makapag pigil. gas. :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: SDMF on December 03, 2006, 12:52:08 AM
Interesting Topic and good / hostile responses :-D
Being the original owner of this Hot Box, All the things Alex found out from this pedal is all with hands on experience of the pedal .
Cloning this pedal will not do justice and be an insult to Mark Sampson (former head honcho of MATCHLESS) if your not using the same parts quality and then blame and decide it's [gooey brown stuff] and "not sulit."
The observer / user has a big big part in the outcome of the review.
The sum of all parts is always the difference.
Isn't it obvious that the SOVtek tube , because of inferior quality made the HOT BOX sound [gooey brown stuff], hindi sulit. While installing a great tube brought out the full potential of the HOT BOX.
Matchless is such a respected amp maker, so much that people resurrected it from bankruptcy. All the parts are truly hi quality, except for the tubes installed when they sell it. It's an option of the owner to install hi quality tubes in his gear.
This pedal is in the VOX tone territory. I used this with my Fender amps and dramatically changed my amp tone.
It's a great pedal, would want the latest version with a true bypass by either Matchless or Bad Cat. At 400.00 dollars, it's worth every cent.
You do get what you pay for this time around. :-D
Matchless makes some pretty top notch stuff. Personally, I would love to get my hands on a Matchless combo - any one of them - IF I could only find them. I can't even find one used!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Chito on December 03, 2006, 02:04:43 AM
Abyss, here's a link to where you could get some Matchless. I personally know the owner of the store who also happens to be a well known gigging guitar player here in Ottawa. The Matchless should be great gigging amps! But would I carry a $4,000 amp to gigs? Probably not.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: abyssinianson on December 03, 2006, 02:28:54 AM
Chito, thanks much! I've always liked Matchless amps as well as Fenders for the clean sounds they can do. Rest assured, this thing isn't go to go anywhere outside of a studio:)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: markflo on December 03, 2006, 02:45:27 AM
i never liked matchless...don't ask me why coz i don't know...i tried a couple of 'em...wala lang...it's just not for me i guess...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: alkohol on December 03, 2006, 03:01:59 AM
i happen to think that the most important component in the tone chain is the player himself --
+100000000
but in oas himself is the worst component of his chain :-D
OMG! OAS IS NOT TRUE BYPASS!!! EEEEEEW.....
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: BALDO on December 03, 2006, 06:51:18 AM
OT lang tayo.. OAS, baka me luma kang gear na hindi mo na ginagamit at gusto mo nang itapon..puwede bang ma auction at yung proceeds ibibigay sa bahay ampunan??? joke or no joke..pero SERIOUS ako.. 8-)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: juwanfidle09 on December 03, 2006, 06:58:14 AM
baka naman kwentong barbero lang tong thread na to... hehehe... :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 03, 2006, 08:30:08 AM
Glassjaw,
Putting in NOS 12ax7s in the Hot Box would bump the price to a probable US$550-600 which most of the people on this forum would make an issue against I and others who buy it which for a lot of people is at least a Peavey Classic 20 amp.
But to be fair to Matchless, if you actually required NOS 12ax7s they would install upon request but you have to be prepared to buy for the upcharge. In fact, they wired this Hot Box for 220volts specially made for Sopwith.
In the end, regardless if it came with a pair of NOS tubes or not, Matchless designed it so that it will be sensitive to the tubes you put in. Hindi na kailangan magpaMOD kahit kanino dahil ikaw ang magEXPERIMENTO. By the way, it also sounded better with a China 12at7 instead of a Sovtek 12ax7 but really shines with NOS.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: glassjaw_jc on December 03, 2006, 01:10:30 PM
Well... I still think that it's an absurd idea. If you're after the highest quality, you'd put in high quality products from the screw to the casing. If the price really reaches that much, then so be it. They're boutique anyway. People will buy it for what it is.
Anyway, I guess puyat na yung designer when he was thinking of what tube to put in. He just grabbed a tube in his drawer and tada! :-D
I read the reviews at harmony-central. It seems that this item is very picky with gear. If that's the case and because you still have to shell out money to get it right, personally, it's not worth the $400 price tag. I'd rather buy it a $650, if that'll be the price with top notch parts, and be happy with it from day 1.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Phil on December 03, 2006, 01:37:34 PM
By the way, it also sounded better with a China 12at7 instead of a Sovtek 12ax7 but really shines with NOS.
..well the Sovtek 12ax7 is like the cheapest and reliable tube....sounds like cardboard though. But I bet it doesn't have to be a NOS to get a nice tone from it. You can those new Tung-sols, Mullards, or even the new JJs.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: aya_yuson on December 03, 2006, 02:35:38 PM
Pahirit naman, o....
Gaya nga ng sabi ng isa kong kaibigan...
Wala yan sa pana, nasa indian.
c",)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: orangedreg_2 on December 03, 2006, 02:43:53 PM
brader aya, sinubukan ko na ang hirit na yan...it didnt work...peace! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: blues2death on December 03, 2006, 04:29:27 PM
mga dude, stomp box...gitara or amp na mahal...materyal lang yan e.
hypocrito naman ako na sabihin kong mura ang mga gitara ko, at taas pa din ang bandila ko for RJ gtrs. the days of my raon strat modded with an almasega neck from RJ are gone.
d ako mayaman, at kung ano man na binili ko na items, mahal at ano man..pinaghirapan ko din naman yun, d ako nagbuburn ng pera.those gitars and amps will be put into good use naman.
at the end of the day though, ano ang mas importante? materyal na bagay or yung respeto ng tao na binibigay sayo ng tao dahil marunong kang makisama?
i know i had my fill of that....and i hate myself for stooping down to that level. so what now? i know ive changed brader alex, can you say the same for yourself.
i read the chronicles of oas dude. you have established a pattern.and it pisses a lot of people not because youve intrigued them with your reviews of expensive gear...nawala na sa mix ang reviews...it's about the way na namemersonal ka na sa mga ka forumites mo.
ganito yun. you make a review. somebody makes kontra pero IMHO. then you make kontra din, with matching " what gives you the right?".
for example. i made a comment about tone being in the hands not the gear. then i remember na sinabi mo " so kaya mo bang patunugin ng distorted ang mga kamay mo?" or something like that.
no, no...ive made my peace..and ive said i dont want to fight anymore. to each his own.live and let live ika nga sa tenets..
but please be more sensible with your posts alex. people know how wealthy you are..you've said enough of that.we also know that joric and me can run rings around you with our guitar playing. same as robie, abyss, phil, mark flo, blue buddha.....chito, nathan manansala...as in lahat na.
i would listen to a product reviewer who can actually play...regardless if he can afford the gear or not.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: blue buddha on December 03, 2006, 04:31:38 PM
question lang.... why would matchless put an "inferior" pre-amp tube if they're using "high quality" parts?
doesn't make sense to me
Amp makers, whether large manufacturers or boutique, will generally ship their stuff off with current production, par for the course, cheaper tubes for several reasons:
1. Tubes are considered a "consumable" item. Even properly used, they will eventually wear out and die over time, just like strings on a guitar, tires on a car, batteries in a gadget, strings on a tennis racket. Just as you would likely not find "best of its kind" consumables installed in/on these items when you buy them brand new, you'll typically not find the best tubes in your amp/pedal unless you specifically request it and you are willing to pay for it. It allows the makers to keep costs down and reasonable for the consumer.
2. Again like in the above-mentioned items, consumer preference for the utility of these consumables is very subjective. For some, basta it works, ok na. Others are more "picky"....
3. ….and the picky ones vary a great deal in their opinions on what sounds “best”. This is so because there are very real differences in how these consumables – in this case, tubes – perform. So the manufacturer just puts something in there that works so that the consumer is sure that the device is in proper operating condition.
That said, Matchless amps fall generally into that category of gear that is as simple as it can be: simple circuits, minimal effects, minimum bells and whistles, very responsive to the quality of the consumable tube components – in short, very much like the old time gear. It sounds like the Hot Box is no exception. The downside is that to get the most out of the gear, you are stuck with some pretty heftily priced consumables. The upside to that, however, is that you are rewarded with seriously yummy performance that is directly proportional to the commitment you put into it – technique, knowing how to “play the amp”, tubes, and otherwise. It’s really something to contemplate – is all the trouble worth the tone?
Only you can answer that, and the answers will all be different given one’s particular circumstances and tolerance for pain.
Anong sabi ni deltaslim noon? – “….kanya kanya lang ‘yun….” Hehehe. :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: glassjaw_jc on December 03, 2006, 04:49:56 PM
How long did you own your amps before you changed the tubes? How long have you owned your guitars before you changed your pickups? How long have you had your car before you changed your tires?
Longer than day 1 I suppose. That's because they work just right for the item. Will you change your tire after buying your car brand new? Do you see ferraris with ordinary tires?
The hot box is supposed to offer a signature sound. You can't offer that if you're expecting your consumers to change a part right away. They can and will probably change the tubes, but normally, after they have used the item extensively and just want's to experiment.
When you're offering a boutique item, you're not offering it for cheap. They're boutique! It is expected of them to be expensive.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: deltaslim on December 03, 2006, 05:51:04 PM
ang tindi ni pareng Joric.. bluesman nga sya pero kung makipag-away, METAL! hupaw huhupaw! :lol:
hehe... pre, basta bluesman malakas ang survival instinct at lalaban kung kailangan. ok na kaibigan (sa hirap at ginhawa) pero masamang kaaway. tignan mo nangyari kay robert johnson, nilason! tapos si keith richards, nanghampas ng rabid fan on-stage! haha...
oas should be man enough to take as much as he is giving.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: deltaslim on December 03, 2006, 06:13:34 PM
So, anong effect ng Brimar 12at7 versus the stock Sovtek 12ax7 sa tunog ng Matchless ko given your experience, wealth of knowledge and US$4,000 worth of tubes? You better be specific because the Brimar is already installed. You claim its the circuit that you don't like about the Hot Box, so what has the Brimar done to the circuit? Describe to me the sound of my Hot Box now with the Brimar?
Wala akong intent to be a tone messiah. Bansag mo iyan sa akin. Since you had collected many tubes, ano na pala ang tube amp mo ngayon? Maybe I will just call you the tube messiah.
My point is since the last time you gave your RJ guitar to your nephew, you have never bought yourself another RJ guitar despite your good experience with it. Why is that? Ginamit mo na nga sa commercial recording di ba?
OMG! I swear you just copy-pasted your previous post! That's cheating... that's like plagiarizing yourself, if that's at all possible!! :-D
Hey, i'll do you a favor. If your Hot Box came w/ stock tubes... they would have likely have been 12AX7WXT+s... the worst Sovtek ax7 possible, IMO and of many others... even changing them for Sovtek LPS would have made a significant change. Changing them to 12at7s are the obvious mod for the Box's ills. But like I said, I have a pretty good guess of how it will have changed the tone. And it still wouldn't have been enough for me to like it.
Btw, I had an opportunity to buy that or a Klon Centaur. Guess what -- I chose the one trick pony. ;-)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: deltaslim on December 03, 2006, 06:25:00 PM
How long did you own your amps before you changed the tubes? How long have you owned your guitars before you changed your pickups? How long have you had your car before you changed your tires?
Longer than day 1 I suppose. That's because they work just right for the item. Will you change your tire after buying your car brand new? Do you see ferraris with ordinary tires?
The hot box is supposed to offer a signature sound. You can't offer that if you're expecting your consumers to change a part right away. They can and will probably change the tubes, but normally, after they have used the item extensively and just want's to experiment.
When you're offering a boutique item, you're not offering it for cheap. They're boutique! It is expected of them to be expensive.
Whups, mis-posted. Let me try again.
When I was a newbie a very long time ago :-P the tubes that came with the amps I bought stayed in for a good long while before they were changed. In the last 15 years, however, I can't think of a stock amp I've bought that didn't get an immediate tube change within 2 hours of my buying the thing. Just as an example: There was a Matchless Brave (40w, 1x12, 2-EL34's, 3-12ax7's, 1-5ar4) that apparently sat in a store called Soundsgood Music in Greenhills for many years. The darn thing cost so much and sounded just average to some people, that no one would touch it with a 10-foot pole. When I came upon it, inspected it, and tested it in-store, I talked the folks down to a decent price level and they were only too happy to have someone take it off their hands.... finally.
The second I got home, out went the Chinese Ruby Tubes 5ar4, the Mesa-branded Russian EL 34's, and the russian 12ax7's -- in went all NOS Mullards in every tube socket. I gigged that amp moderately for about 5 years, and finally changed out the Mullard EL34's for a pair of Siemens earlier this year. The Mullard rectifier and 12ax7's (except for one that died about a month ago) are still the same ones from almost 6 years ago. Have been very happy with it all the way. Still gigging the amp 1 or 2 times a week at stage levels these days. No problems at all.
Following the same logic, a lot of people pass up the usual panasonic or "ibanez" branded alkaline batteries that came with their new expensive TS808 re-issue tubescreamers in favor of Energizers or Duracells.
They don't even sell highend Tennis rackets pre-strung. You have to choose your preferred string and specify the tension.
Re: Ferraris, the factory will stick in good production tires from whatever tire company they are able to swing a supply deal with for a good price. They will be excellent tires that are several notches up from the run-of-the-mill models other makers put on their cars, but they will not necessarily be the most technically advanced, best built tire ever available on the market in absolute terms -- the kind made up of special stuff used by formula 1 cars for the Indy 500 -- specially formulated, constructed, selected, inspected, tested, and , etc. where money, glory and fame are on the line. Doing that will make the car's sticker price absolutely outrageous. And so many new anal Ferrari (Porsche, Maserati, Fill in Hot-car-name-here) owners opt to upgrade their tires too with whatever Pirelli, Michelin, Fill-in-other-high-end-tiremakers-names-here makes that outspecs the original tire. They may do this at a later date because it isn't as simple a swap as what one can do in the comfort of your living room. :-D
The point is, the original tubes have their own character which some folks think is ok. No problem for them. The tubes do work and there's technically nothing wrong with them. Interesting thing with some of these amps/pedals is that although there is the promise of a signature response, it will actually be very different with any combination of guitars, amps, and other gear in the signal chain. So there really isn't one "correct" result. The best results for you is actually an outgrowth of choices you make in the consumables and other stuff you attach to it. At the end of the day, no sense in making such a subjective choice for you when it would likely add another $100 to the pedal's selling price. With something like this, it just makes sense to go generic.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: aya_yuson on December 03, 2006, 07:07:54 PM
i don't see why anyone should let Alex get under their skin.
Twenty years from now, who'll people remember? The good players or the spoiled li'l rich kids?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Al_Librero on December 03, 2006, 08:01:15 PM
Nice piece of wisdom there. But actually, it IS important for at least one person to get ticked off, because:
1. People, especially newer members, might start believing him wholeheartedly, and 2. It wouldn't be fun, otherwise.
:evil: :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: farseer on December 03, 2006, 09:33:24 PM
so what? i bet you got this pedal to again tell us how filthy f*in rich you are. if you wish to show us how rich you are, get all of us together and give us all money. after this review, what do you want us to do? your reviews are eloquent but incomplete without soundclips. other than that, cheers mf.
oy oy easy lang meng.. review lang naman yun e. medyo mahal talaga ang $400 para sa isang pedal for the common Filipino kaya not for the financially challenged talaga. kasi sometimes people tend to become impulsive buyers because of reviews, etc. kaya warning lang yun na you should be sure na gusto mo yun otherwise you'll just throw away $400. enough of the oas-bashing na sana tayo dito, he did point out some good points of the pedal naman so we all learned a bit more :)
+ :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 03, 2006, 09:41:44 PM
Glassjaw,
If I find a good sounding guitar, the day after I buy it, it immediately goes to Arie for refinishing based on what I want it to look. Pickups are immediately removed and Bareknuckles replacements are ordered. Nut is also immediately replaced with Mastodon Ivory. If its a Strat, the bridge is yanked out and I order the Titanium block Strat Assembly. Pickguards and electronics from Callaham. Nothing stock that I cannot improve will stay on the guitar for another day. I can do this because I know what I want and I know what each specific upgrade does to the sound if not a general direction of where it will go at the minimum.
In the case of the hot box, I was lucky enough to pickup a tip from Harmony Central to try out the 12at7 and within a day after Sopwith lent me the Hot Box, the Sovtek 12ax7 was replaced and it sounded better with the NOS 12at7. In the same way, I will still buy the Evidence Audio power cord to improve the sound of my Diezel Herbert. It did not come with it. Nor did the Herbert come with three paris of spare 6l6s, KT88s, 6550 etc even though it is capable of using those tubes. The problem is you expect from a US$400 Matchless is that it contain NOS tubes well the problem is that -- your personal expectations of what US$400 will get you from Matchless. Unfortunately, even if I wanted more value from it, I have no choice to go with what is available to me here. The fact is that it did not stop me seeing its potential beyond the Sovtek 12ax7 tube.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: katzenjammer on December 03, 2006, 09:51:52 PM
ang tindi ni pareng Joric.. bluesman nga sya pero kung makipag-away, METAL! hupaw huhupaw! :lol:
ahehehe! Oo nga, atapang-atao! :-D
Yan ang schoolmate! "Manalo, matalo, Bugbog kayo!" - Notre DAme vs. PCHS '92 NMMAA Basketball Championship :-D
sir SDMF .. Damer din po ba kayo?
Yup, batch 94 ako. Ikaw?
wow, finally naglalabasan na din mga damer's.. batch 2002-2003 here. :-)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 03, 2006, 09:53:31 PM
Deltaslim,
So whats your guess? You are keeping us in suspense... Wow, for a guy who spends US$4,000 on tubes, its so difficult for you to be specific. Thats what I call true boutique behaviour. Do you still have a tube amp with you today? If not, just give me your US$4,000 worth of tubes because I just realized I have close to 100 tube sockets to fill up.
Yeah if you end up with the Klon Centaur, I hope you own it up today. The Centaur was ABed against my modded TS9 and it just did not make the grade based on my ears. I really really wanted it to blow my TS9 out of the water but it did not. Darn... I had the chance to buy it but I felt the mid-hump was just was not nice sounding and it could not beat the punch of the modded TS9.
Still, why aren't you using an RJ guitar today if you are so impressed with RJ? Dont try skirting the issue. You know what I think? You are afraid to say on this forum that you do not think it is Good Enough for you for various reasons because you want to be politically correct.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: markflo on December 03, 2006, 09:54:07 PM
dude, using a 12at7 as your preamp sucks...put in a 12ay7...or a 5751 (close to a 12ax7)...12at7's sound better in an amp's phase inverter....believe me....i used to have 3 tube pedals (1 of which i sold) tried the 12at7 (yes, NOS, 12at7 NOS' aren't that hard to find anyway) and it SUCKED big time! it sounded farty and sh!tty...
if you want a classic tweed sound...go 12ay7....
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: glassjaw_jc on December 03, 2006, 10:03:27 PM
You can do that because you already know what those parts can do. It has become personal preference. It doesn't mean that the guitar sucks. It is already good sounding the day you bought it... ".....If I find a good sounding guitar.....".
In this case, 2 reviews says it sucks stock. Your review and Slim's review.
Did your herbert suck with stock tubes? Changing the tubes just means you're working with personal preference. It doesn't mean your herbert sucks. If you really want your herbert to sound better, I suggest you have your electricity wiring fixed before deciding to buy an expensive power cord. Electricity is dirty in this country (unless you're playing in a data center or you have your amps in our top recording studios. TRAcks maybe?).
No, I don't expect the hot box to come with NOS tubes. But I also don't expect it to be a disappointment with stock tubes. If it is indeed less desirable in stock mode, then it doesn't deserve the $400 price tag.
I don't question its potential, I question its value. I never question the price people put in their gear. Why would I buy something that "I need to fix" before I can use unless it's broken or it's something uber rare.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: katzenjammer on December 03, 2006, 10:04:13 PM
So whats your guess? You are keeping us in suspense... Wow, for a guy who spends US$4,000 on tubes, its so difficult for you to be specific. Thats what I call true boutique behaviour. Do you still have a tube amp with you today? If not, just give me your US$4,000 worth of tubes because I just realized I have close to 100 tube sockets to fill up.
Yeah if you end up with the Klon Centaur, I hope you own it up today. The Centaur was ABed against my modded TS9 and it just did not make the grade based on my ears. I really really wanted it to blow my TS9 out of the water but it did not. Darn... I had the chance to buy it but I felt the mid-hump was just was not nice sounding and it could not beat the punch of the modded TS9.
Still, why aren't you using an RJ guitar today if you are so impressed with RJ? Dont try skirting the issue. You know what I think? You are afraid to say on this forum that you do not think it is Good Enough for you for various reasons because you want to be politically correct.
makikiextra lang po, anu naman masama kung RJ ang gitara mo? or anything that is local? i think there's nothing wrong with that. Even if you give me a rj guitar, ill stand up, use it and be myself. :-)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 03, 2006, 10:05:06 PM
Deltaslim,
I never said that there can only be one. I did qualify for what the Matchless does it does best but tomorrow can be another thing... I am not discounting Damage Control , Valve Boy and I am still waiting for Effectrode. Para sa iyo, there can be none. Kung ganoon lang pare bakit ka pa nagpopost ng wisdom mo dito sa gear? After all, kanya kanya iyan para sa iyo -- if you cannot put your conviction behind gear, dont attack my conviction on what I think sounds good kasi again as you said KANYA KANYA iyan. By the way, please notice that I do not attack your threads or your reviews anymore and I only counter post this way because I think mali ka on this review and I have conviction behind that kasi HINDI MO NARINIG ang Hot Box na naka-Brimar 12at7.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: tele-tubby on December 03, 2006, 10:07:06 PM
Twenty years from now, who'll people remember? The good players or the spoiled li'l rich kids?
people will remember the person who sticks a whole guitar up the li'l rich kid's ass and asks him "how do you like 'em tone?" :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 03, 2006, 10:09:06 PM
Markflo,
Thats the next step actually. Since the Hot Box has two pairs, I can mix and match the different types and thats why I am so happy about that. I just needed to validate that a NOS 12at7 would change the character of the pedal. When I did it to my V-twin, it did not change much and was still fuzzy.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 03, 2006, 10:29:57 PM
Glassjaw,
Just for clarification, when I say that a guitar is good sounding to me, I say that because I assess the character of the wood. Period. It can have great character but lousy electronics and hardware for me. The timbre and other properties are subject to improvement. In short, I buy a guitar because of the wood's character and not the timbre.
On the point on electricity, you are correct. I have been looking into the FURMAN PRO -- that floor thingy kaso wala dito. So, kailangan pa custom order sa U.S. dahil 220 tayo dito. All the power outlets near my amps have the ground plug grounded. In fact, I was looking into a separate power line and separate ground for my amps but it would be such a hassle to rewire the whole house. Maybe later...
So, if it sounds disappointing with a stock tube but sounds killer with a NOS 12at7, its not worth it? Ako, tinitingnan ko na lang ang ibang character at tunog niya with a NOS 12at7. So, kung binigay sa iyo at US$40 with a stock tube ang Matchless Hot Box pero ang sama ng tunog at hindi mabago ang tunog na may tube swap bibilhin mo ba? I doubt it. It really boils down to what you perceive US$400 will buy you in terms of sound quality not because it was a disappointment to me and Deltaslim.
Kung value lang paguusapan, may TS9 na modded na maganda rin pero wala siyang ibang capability at potential ng Hot Box. Defining Value is a long treatise but the important thing is YOU define value yourself and as long as you have not heard it, its hard to determine if you will ever find the Hot Box valuable.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 03, 2006, 10:36:57 PM
Katzen,
Forgive me if I sound offensive, but for me, I have better guitars than RJ guitars that have magic and soul. I am not saying that you cannot use RJ guitars but rather I have guitars that have character -- take note I did not mention timbre -- that I have not found in RJ guitars. On the technical level, nothing by RJ can match the workmanship on my guitars. I can use RJ but I will not be happy with it.
By the way, I began with an RJ guitar customized by Mang Rudy. Though I think a lot of the new RJs are made in Korea and I have to say that they have improved a lot but are still far off from my requirements. But that should not stop you from making music...
I don't know about the Deltaslim... maybe RJ should offer him an endorsement deal...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: glassjaw_jc on December 03, 2006, 10:44:22 PM
"......Unfortunately, even if I wanted more value from it, I have no choice to go with what is available to me here...."
You already said it yourself. You already think it doesn't deserve it's price.
"...So, if it sounds disappointing with a stock tube but sounds killer with a NOS 12at7, its not worth it?..."
ahh... ok I forgot to add something to my posts... IMHO....
IMHO... no, it's not worth the price. Why? Again, because "I" have to fix it first before I can actually use it. Again, I'd rather buy it at a higher price and save me the hassle. It may even be potentially more costly if I experiment with vacuum tubes rather than buy the item at a higher price than it has.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 03, 2006, 10:44:34 PM
Al,
Problem with you is that you don't know when to believe or when to be entertained...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: glassjaw_jc on December 03, 2006, 10:50:12 PM
On a side note, I actually thought of buying it when sopwith posted it in the classifieds section. But it's not something I need so I passed. I actually thought that he was selling it for cheap.
So on your question if I will find it valuable, as an investment, yes. I can buy it and just store it away.
EDIT :
I never questioned it's potential, just its percieved value considering its price.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 03, 2006, 11:00:05 PM
Glassjaw,
For info, Matchless just resumed production just this year. Now, what I had available was a 220 volt version customized to our voltage that came with a SOVTEK 12ax7. It is nowhere near availalbe and I am not sure if the new Matchless will produce it. Yes, I would have paid for NOS tubes installed on it from the factory if I could and that would have raised its value to me. But for what it does it is worth more than its price. I could have gotten more value but that does not mean its not worth its price at the minimum.
Do you ever change pickups? If you do. Why do you? So what right? The guitar is sunk cost which means that the initial investment in the past should not affect the future decision of whether to dispose the guitar or upgrade the guitar. Following your logic, just because the thing does not come out perfect on your first purchase nothing deserves an upgrade because kulang sa value. Moreover, that means your logic dictates that you can only buy something perfect or buy nothing at all. So, lahat kami na nag-uupgrade ng pickups ay hindi sulit ang biniling gitara?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 03, 2006, 11:09:24 PM
Glassjaw,
I dont buy things for investment. Though I may spend a lot on gear, never do I buy for investment. It has to sound good. Period. Thats the least form of value in my mind.
I was ready to give up on this so-called holy grail of matchless fame and was content at leaving it at that until I had to make sure that I had covered every possible base and say that this pedal was worth letting go like the Klon Centaur. So, I tried a tube swap and lo and behold I realized its potential way more than its Classified Ads status.
Sometimes you realize you need something when you try it out and other times you buy something you really don't need...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: glassjaw_jc on December 03, 2006, 11:18:29 PM
I never said I want it perfect right out of the factory. I just don't need something that will disappointment me. I've already experienced a lot of that. That's why we choose before we buy, because we want to get the most of what we spend.
If you think it's worth its price. Then for you it's worth it. For me it is not.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 03, 2006, 11:34:46 PM
Disappointment happens with the following scenarios:
1) Buying something that turns out to be a dud after the honeymoon period. 2) The other side of disappointment is letting go of something you should have never let go which you thought was dud for some reason. 3) Corollary to that is that you can let go of something you really would have liked but never tried but you are not disappointed because you never heard it. Of course you do not consider yourself disappointed because you come up with reasons other than related to the product's peformance e.g. price, vibe, look, etc. 4) You can also let go of something you really would have liked but never tried but you are not disappointed because you never knew of it. This I call ignorance because you go around thinking you are so happy when you should go around and be dissatisfied.
In the case of the Matchless, I checked to make sure that I will not commit Disappointment Scenario Number 3.
Here are further tips, you can avoid Disappointment Scenario Number 2 because I know what I want. You can also avoid Disappointment Scenario Number when you know what you want.
But unfortunately, you can only avoid Disappointment Scenario Number 3 if you try it and do research.
For Disappointment Scenario Number 4, you need research and you need to try it.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: bunyok23 on December 03, 2006, 11:56:27 PM
im pretty sure you'll never get satified with whatever you have when it comes to gear...everything changes in due time. some improves some dont...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: toybitz on December 04, 2006, 01:52:31 AM
OT
sayang yun mga dolyares na pumapasok sa bansa. si Pacman dun pa sa Tate bumibili ng Benz...$3M and more na sana Pinas na lang nakinabang.
ehem...si Alex din ganun, naglalabas ang dolyar.
ehem ulit....alam ko, alam ko. wala akong pakialam sa pera ninyo kaya SORRY.
pero nakakalungkot pa din.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: blues2death on December 04, 2006, 02:11:36 AM
So whats your guess? You are keeping us in suspense... Wow, for a guy who spends US$4,000 on tubes, its so difficult for you to be specific. Thats what I call true boutique behaviour. Do you still have a tube amp with you today? If not, just give me your US$4,000 worth of tubes because I just realized I have close to 100 tube sockets to fill up.
Yeah if you end up with the Klon Centaur, I hope you own it up today. The Centaur was ABed against my modded TS9 and it just did not make the grade based on my ears. I really really wanted it to blow my TS9 out of the water but it did not. Darn... I had the chance to buy it but I felt the mid-hump was just was not nice sounding and it could not beat the punch of the modded TS9.
Still, why aren't you using an RJ guitar today if you are so impressed with RJ? Dont try skirting the issue. You know what I think? You are afraid to say on this forum that you do not think it is Good Enough for you for various reasons because you want to be politically correct.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
As one forumite described it, you are a "circular argumentor"... I wish you use your 'golden ears' to improve your listening instead. O kaya mag-vitamins ka para mawala yang "selective memory" mo.
:-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: deltaslim on December 04, 2006, 08:03:40 AM
I never said that there can only be one. I did qualify for what the Matchless does it does best but tomorrow can be another thing... I am not discounting Damage Control , Valve Boy and I am still waiting for Effectrode. Para sa iyo, there can be none. Kung ganoon lang pare bakit ka pa nagpopost ng wisdom mo dito sa gear? After all, kanya kanya iyan para sa iyo -- if you cannot put your conviction behind gear, dont attack my conviction on what I think sounds good kasi again as you said KANYA KANYA iyan. By the way, please notice that I do not attack your threads or your reviews anymore and I only counter post this way because I think mali ka on this review and I have conviction behind that kasi HINDI MO NARINIG ang Hot Box na naka-Brimar 12at7.
Aah, that famous pair of 'golden ears' of yours is failing you again... Or maybe it's really your comprehension skills. I'm not talking about "one" pedal; I'm talking about "one opinion" -- ie, yours. You don't know how to 'agree to disagree' kasi eh, that's why.
I never attacked your conviction about your gear (reread my earlier posts). I only offered my own opinion about the same exact piece of gear since I'm sure very few people were able or will be able to try it out and I have. You are the one who attacked my opinion with all sorts of claims and challenges to my knowledge and my person, remember? If you can put a caveat like "not for the financially challenged", why can't someone else say "not for people who like Fender blackface clean tone?" as a caveat for potential buyers?
Gimme a break... every time someone offers a dissenting opinion you instantly question the knowledge or even the capacity of the person to try with a silly challenge like "Well, you weren't here in my bedroom to test it yourself through my all-bowteek tone chain using your own fingers!"
Since you keep asking me if I have tubes and tube amps, let me throw back the challenge at you. Come to my house and try my tubes and tube amp and let's see if you sound like yourself, better or worse through my setup. Or try mo yung Vox Tonelab SE if it indeed sounds as bad as you say modellers are. That should be in the spirit of your typical challenge -- you have to try it yourself to be "in a position" to assess di ba sabi mo?
What say you? Kung sasagot ka lang ng wala na naman sa contexto, never mind. I'm wasting my time. I already got PMs/txts from people I respect that the best way to treat you is IGNORE you. Kaso, as Al says, where's the fun in that? :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: pallas on December 04, 2006, 09:33:45 AM
:-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: SDMF on December 04, 2006, 09:46:13 AM
ang tindi ni pareng Joric.. bluesman nga sya pero kung makipag-away, METAL! hupaw huhupaw! :lol:
ahehehe! Oo nga, atapang-atao! :-D
Yan ang schoolmate! "Manalo, matalo, Bugbog kayo!" - Notre DAme vs. PCHS '92 NMMAA Basketball Championship :-D
Uy kmusta Mike! Pre, nung batch namin, mga taga-Kalookan High karambulan namin! Rakenrol!!
Aba, astig! Although kalaban pa rin ng Notre ang Kalookan high nun time namin, pero nde na masyado. Parang andami na kasi nila masyado e. :-P Nung batch namin naalala ko, meron ding rambulan with other schools pero madalas puro pangungulit at kalokohan na lang sa campus..Mga practical jokes, grabe! :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: deltaslim on December 04, 2006, 10:06:20 AM
ang tindi ni pareng Joric.. bluesman nga sya pero kung makipag-away, METAL! hupaw huhupaw! :lol:
ahehehe! Oo nga, atapang-atao! :-D
Yan ang schoolmate! "Manalo, matalo, Bugbog kayo!" - Notre DAme vs. PCHS '92 NMMAA Basketball Championship :-D
Uy kmusta Mike! Pre, nung batch namin, mga taga-Kalookan High karambulan namin! Rakenrol!!
Aba, astig! Although kalaban pa rin ng Notre ang Kalookan high nun time namin, pero nde na masyado. Parang andami na kasi nila masyado e. :-P Nung batch namin naalala ko, meron ding rambulan with other schools pero madalas puro pangungulit at kalokohan na lang sa campus..Mga practical jokes, grabe! :-D
Nung time namin kasi madalas kami "bisitahin" ng mga Kalookan High. May mga inaabangan sila sa gate. Pag labas or habang umiinom ng sago-gulaman sa tapat, bigla nilang binabanatan. Tapang nila para gawin yun pero kuyug sila sa amin. Hinahabol na namin sila hanggang 10th ave. After a while, di na bumalik. Of course, di naman kami stupido para mang harang sa gate nila. Eh di patay na sana kami ngayon!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: orangedreg_2 on December 04, 2006, 10:17:38 AM
ang tindi ni pareng Joric.. bluesman nga sya pero kung makipag-away, METAL! hupaw huhupaw! :lol:
ahehehe! Oo nga, atapang-atao! :-D
Yan ang schoolmate! "Manalo, matalo, Bugbog kayo!" - Notre DAme vs. PCHS '92 NMMAA Basketball Championship :-D
Uy kmusta Mike! Pre, nung batch namin, mga taga-Kalookan High karambulan namin! Rakenrol!!
Aba, astig! Although kalaban pa rin ng Notre ang Kalookan high nun time namin, pero nde na masyado. Parang andami na kasi nila masyado e. :-P Nung batch namin naalala ko, meron ding rambulan with other schools pero madalas puro pangungulit at kalokohan na lang sa campus..Mga practical jokes, grabe! :-D
Nung time namin kasi madalas kami "bisitahin" ng mga Kalookan High. May mga inaabangan sila sa gate. Pag labas or habang umiinom ng sago-gulaman sa tapat, bigla nilang binabanatan. Tapang nila para gawin yun pero kuyug sila sa amin. Hinahabol na namin sila hanggang 10th ave. After a while, di na bumalik. Of course, di naman kami stupido para mang harang sa gate nila. Eh di patay na sana kami ngayon!
wow.. parang war stories ser.. sa front gate ba yan o sa back? naaalala nyo pa ba si mang nato?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: edmund on December 04, 2006, 10:39:25 AM
curious lang ako hindi kaya puro gamit lang usapan dito wala naman tlagang magaling tumugtog???
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: blues2death on December 04, 2006, 10:41:49 AM
The Centaur was ABed against my modded TS9 and it just did not make the grade based on my ears. I really really wanted it to blow my TS9 out of the water but it did not. Darn... I had the chance to buy it but I felt the mid-hump was just was not nice sounding and it could not beat the punch of the modded TS9.
Well...at least I'm at peace with this issue. A modded TS9's price tag is nowhere near the price of a Klon Centaur. I rest my case.
BAMF out !
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Letour on December 04, 2006, 10:53:35 AM
Problem with you is that you don't know when to believe or when to be entertained...
Another insulting message.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 04, 2006, 12:29:51 PM
Letour,
I dont think those are insults, rather retorts to sarcastic remarks which they first started...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 04, 2006, 12:34:04 PM
BAMF,
What case was that? Please state thesis in full detail...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: blues2death on December 04, 2006, 12:57:28 PM
remarks, retorts...sarcasm, no need to be technical.
tugtugan na lang sana ang basehan...hindi wether youve owned this, owned that...
dude, if you're makin a sincere review as a service for other people planning a certain purchase...sincere ba makin a review about something that's not for the financially challenged? how many people would find it useful kung hanggang pangarap lang sa karamihan.
this is a music website that's directed at the pinoy musician.most of whom, dont even own their own amps for gigs.much less afford $300-400 worth na stompbox.
how useful is a review na katulad ng sa iyo.
informative? can you do it with less 'intriguing' posts? nagkaroon ka ng madaming kaaway tuloy...what kind of service is that?
dude, the only reason why i apologize the last time was because i stooped down to your level. want you to know how it feels to be insulted. you didnt even apologize for insulting my musicianship and lack of hit songs :lol:
pero sabihin ko uli. i would listen kung credible talaga ang reviewer...meaning
the reviewer not only owns a particular piece of equipment...but can play...play, play.. more than having extensive experience with equipment through purchasing them...it's more of the extensive experience, playing them.
sino ang papaniwalaan mo? ung nakakatugtog ng "statesboro blues"? or ung nag popower chord lang and a couple of licks.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Letour on December 04, 2006, 12:57:42 PM
asa ka pang makumbinse mo si alex. yan ang D'Original APAP, eh.
Asa Pa, Ayaw Patalo.
:-D
Hey Aya, just curious. Did you play in a cover band before? I think I remember seeing someone who looked like you at Street Life in 1997...black Strat, with a female vocalist.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: trem3 on December 04, 2006, 04:06:53 PM
soundclips naman dyan... please
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: toybitz on December 04, 2006, 04:10:42 PM
uy Bro! e yun El Arte na guitara ni Kakoy na 3K lang na ginamit niya nun launch? nakasaksak sa Royale (ayan na!) Hehehe.
sa susunod, pwede ba humarap naman kayo sa akin ng hindi ako nahihirapan silipin yun naririnig ko?
post ko ung video nun para mapanood mo/nila:
grabe P3k lang un? pwede na ha! partida naka Royale pa yun ah! ;-)
hehe... joke! si kakoy ba naman ang kumakalabit eh what do you expect?!! :-D
oo Bro, wala pa nga atang 3K yun kundi nabili sa B & S. :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: skunkyfunk on December 04, 2006, 05:06:20 PM
People just don't get it. :lol: :lol: :lol: oasgomez is trying to make an issue out of his gear and your gear so everything sticks to your head. Would you know what a Diezel Herbert is if he did not do his braggart image thingie? :lol:
But I think the real acid test is doing a blindfold test with everyone's gear, and only ONE set of hands playing through them. Remember Science in grade school? Experimental variable and Controlled Variables? Hehehe....
I guess the real problem here is that oasgomez does his claims based on HIS OWN HANDS and taste. And no one knows (at least some) what skill level of guitar he is at.
But there is a lot of wisdom in learning from people you hate. You know, it's like having a terror prof in college that you really hate, but if you love the subject, you'll do your best to learn from him.
Now I pose a question: When someone says "kanya-kanya lang yan...", does that mean, "kanya-kanya lang na budget limits yan kaya masaya na ako sa [cheap] setup ko" o "kanya-kanya lang yan dahil nabili at nasubukan ko na lahat ng mahal at murang gear at etong setup ko ang gusto ko..."
For me, I don't think we should make any claims without trying things for ourselves. Soundclips can be misleading too. Almost all of the Soldano SLO 100 clips I heard cannot even fair up to how it sounds in a live scenario. So I guess oas has the right NOT to post clips unless his goal is to show CHOPS.
Anyway, I've been attacked in a different local forum as well by some who present themselves as advocates of netiquette and politicky [gooey brown stuff], just because I share some same thoughts as oas.
The difference is, if oasgomez is a "tone elitist", I on the other hand is a "tone social climber". :-P
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: deltaslim on December 04, 2006, 05:21:53 PM
"Kanya-kanya" refers to personal like/dislike of whatever tone people are evaluating. It's supposed to HAVE NOTHING TO DO with how much it costs to produce that tone. Either you like or you don't, period. No reason to convince that it's good just because it costs $$$ and therefore sounds good, or <insert famous gtrst> plays it and therefore it sounds good.
Btw, you often mention na balat sibuyas kasi mga Filipino/tao dito kaya laging napapaaway kay Oas... Would you call Oas 'balat sibuyas' also because he gets riled up when people post dissenting opinions?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: toybitz on December 04, 2006, 05:28:52 PM
besides, everything about this thread are opinions.
whether Alex is stirring up a hornet's nest or not...the hornet still stings! Philmusic is still a social place, and that's a fact! :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: vhunter on December 04, 2006, 05:29:58 PM
Blues,
I found this helpful. I never wanted a hot box and now probably wont even bother trying one. :-D
Id like to see how this pedal fairs witht he tone cat or the extreme tone pedals by bad cat.
remarks, retorts...sarcasm, no need to be technical.
tugtugan na lang sana ang basehan...hindi wether youve owned this, owned that...
dude, if you're makin a sincere review as a service for other people planning a certain purchase...sincere ba makin a review about something that's not for the financially challenged? how many people would find it useful kung hanggang pangarap lang sa karamihan.
this is a music website that's directed at the pinoy musician.most of whom, dont even own their own amps for gigs.much less afford $300-400 worth na stompbox.
how useful is a review na katulad ng sa iyo.
informative? can you do it with less 'intriguing' posts? nagkaroon ka ng madaming kaaway tuloy...what kind of service is that?
dude, the only reason why i apologize the last time was because i stooped down to your level. want you to know how it feels to be insulted. you didnt even apologize for insulting my musicianship and lack of hit songs :lol:
pero sabihin ko uli. i would listen kung credible talaga ang reviewer...meaning
the reviewer not only owns a particular piece of equipment...but can play...play, play.. more than having extensive experience with equipment through purchasing them...it's more of the extensive experience, playing them.
sino ang papaniwalaan mo? ung nakakatugtog ng "statesboro blues"? or ung nag popower chord lang and a couple of licks.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: glassjaw_jc on December 04, 2006, 05:30:10 PM
I (actually, nobody in this forum) therefore cannot claim tha Van Halen's gear is good because I have not tried it..... tama ba? :lol:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: blue buddha on December 05, 2006, 08:35:12 AM
"Kanya-kanya" refers to personal like/dislike of whatever tone people are evaluating. It's supposed to HAVE NOTHING TO DO with how much it costs to produce that tone. Either you like or you don't, period. No reason to convince that it's good just because it costs $$$ and therefore sounds good, or <insert famous gtrst> plays it and therefore it sounds good.
+1+1. It all boils down to tone being a matter of personal taste -- notwithstanding price, technology, etc. There's room in world for all of it. But there's a spot in one's heart for what one prefers.
Perfectly ok to say Van Halen's stuff sounds good to you even if you haven't tried it, but it's less credible to say that his gear is universally good for everyone just 'cuz you like it. Kanya kanya lang 'yan. :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: glassjaw_jc on December 05, 2006, 12:16:07 PM
pero.. pero... sabi nila you can't claim anything unless you've tried it? so pano yun? :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Poundcake on December 05, 2006, 12:22:10 PM
what a thread.. gear lang to dudes! chill! hehe :lol:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: vinz on December 05, 2006, 12:28:07 PM
tama na mga tol hehehe nakangiti na siya oh natatawa na :-D :-D :-D hhhaaayyyy...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: blue buddha on December 05, 2006, 12:45:25 PM
if it were up to me, i'd ban all of your asses (mine included) for taking up so much effin airtime...
but its not up to me... so i'll just say
catholic school girls rule!!!
how about Polish catholic school girls? ;-)
daming hotties. :-D
pero you can sort of feel people's laser vision boring a hole through the back of your skull when you walk past. there's this unshakable feeling someone is watching your every move. maybe they are. makes you think about how you act around foreigners in manila. so yun. in return i watch the hotties sa tram, subway, streets, hotel, malls, museums...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: lykenhowl on December 06, 2006, 06:33:12 AM
if it were up to me, i'd ban all of your asses (mine included) for taking up so much effin airtime...
but its not up to me... so i'll just say
catholic school girls rule!!!
how about Polish catholic school girls? ;-)
catholic school gils are ok...
but nothing tickles your willy harder than...
JAPANESE SCHOOL GIRLS!!!
daming hotties. :-D
pero you can sort of feel people's laser vision boring a hole through the back of your skull when you walk past. there's this unshakable feeling someone is watching your every move. maybe they are. makes you think about how you act around foreigners in manila. so yun. in return i watch the hotties sa tram, subway, streets, hotel, malls, museums...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: lykenhowl on December 06, 2006, 07:10:26 AM
if it were up to me, i'd ban all of your asses (mine included) for taking up so much effin airtime...
but its not up to me... so i'll just say
catholic school girls rule!!!
how about Polish catholic school girls? ;-)
catholic school gils are ok...
but nothing tickles your willy harder than...
JAPANESE SCHOOL GIRLS!!!
daming hotties. :-D
pero you can sort of feel people's laser vision boring a hole through the back of your skull when you walk past. there's this unshakable feeling someone is watching your every move. maybe they are. makes you think about how you act around foreigners in manila. so yun. in return i watch the hotties sa tram, subway, streets, hotel, malls, museums...
Count me in...Im a Perv when it comes to Jap chicks.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: aya_yuson on December 06, 2006, 04:21:53 PM
Yeah, that may have been me. Kung circa '97, sa Streetlife, must've been with the showband, Legacy.
Dehin strat yon. Yamaha Pacifica. Black nga. Super strat-type guitar.
=)
Hey Aya, just curious. Did you play in a cover band before? I think I remember seeing someone who looked like you at Street Life in 1997...black Strat, with a female vocalist. [/quote]
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: alkohol on December 07, 2006, 12:20:20 PM
if it were up to me, i'd ban all of your asses (mine included) for taking up so much effin airtime...
but its not up to me... so i'll just say
catholic school girls rule!!!
same here...final fantasy: japanese school girl twins...18 and above only. iwas kulong. hehe
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
how about Polish catholic school girls? ;-)
catholic school gils are ok...
but nothing tickles your willy harder than...
JAPANESE SCHOOL GIRLS!!!
daming hotties. :-D
pero you can sort of feel people's laser vision boring a hole through the back of your skull when you walk past. there's this unshakable feeling someone is watching your every move. maybe they are. makes you think about how you act around foreigners in manila. so yun. in return i watch the hotties sa tram, subway, streets, hotel, malls, museums...
Count me in...Im a Perv when it comes to Jap chicks.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: greatwolf on December 08, 2006, 12:16:43 PM
Yeah, that may have been me. Kung circa '97, sa Streetlife, must've been with the showband, Legacy.
Dehin strat yon. Yamaha Pacifica. Black nga. Super strat-type guitar.
=)
Hey Aya, just curious. Did you play in a cover band before? I think I remember seeing someone who looked like you at Street Life in 1997...black Strat, with a female vocalist.
[/quote]
Cool! I have a video of one of your gigs...lol. Damn, your vocalist was pretty and was very good, she sure can hit them notes. She was belting out Diana King's "Shy Guy"... :-D
Oh, and I already knew how good you were back then....
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: aya_yuson on December 08, 2006, 12:57:23 PM
Yeah, that may have been me. Kung circa '97, sa Streetlife, must've been with the showband, Legacy.
Dehin strat yon. Yamaha Pacifica. Black nga. Super strat-type guitar.
=)
Hey Aya, just curious. Did you play in a cover band before? I think I remember seeing someone who looked like you at Street Life in 1997...black Strat, with a female vocalist.
Cool! I have a video of one of your gigs...lol. Damn, your vocalist was pretty and was very good, she sure can hit them notes. She was belting out Diana King's "Shy Guy"... :-D
Oh, and I already knew how good you were back then.... [/quote]
Oh, I wasn't really all that good back then. Overplaying musician todo. Walang restraint. Kulang sa phrasing. Kulang na kulang sa pacing, sa hinga.
Kangkarot.
I wasn't all that good back then.
And i still ain't sh_t. :-)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: hoihose on December 08, 2006, 01:35:13 PM
When it comes to Boutique Pedals, nothing beats the Matchless Hot Box. Its a Preamp/Overdrive pedal. Everything about it spells boutique. The chassis is some kind of hard stainless gauge steel. All the components are point to point. Resistors ( not a single carbon film resistor in use) and Caps are top notch, some caps are even customized for Matchless. There two 12ax7 tubes mounted in phenolic sockets with a built in 220 volts power supply. Controls are lit internally like all matchless stuff. It costs around US$400 if you can find one. It beats that so-called modded TC Electronic SCF on the other thread. By the way, I like my SCF just as is without any tubes and stiff middle finger. That finger has serious confidence/ego issues.
But does it sound US$400? It depends and it did not WOW me. I tried and forced myself to like it but it was such a disappointment -- it was only after I changed one of the tubes to a NOS GE 12at7 that the Hot Box really come into being. I replaced some SOVTEK 12ax7 and boy what an improvement a genuine GE or Brimar made in the overdrive sound. It now sounds close to my Vox AC30 though not exact. Suddenly the fuzzy gain of the pedal turned into a smooth and sweet overdrive thru a strat. It just made my strat fat without any loss of definition. Upon further research I can still mix and match other tubes and actually dictate the level of drive on the Hot Box. Furthermore, the circuit is so sensitive to type and construction of the tube that you can change tonalities by changing tubes. NOS seems to be the best choice for this critter. This was not so with my Mesa Vtwin which was not at all sensitive to the type of tube, it just sounded fuzzy. What I like about the Hot Box is that it has now become flexible in terms of sound. No need for mods or switching ICs, all you have to do is switch tubes and it takes a different property.
However there are cons to it -- it cannot be powered by a 9 volt, the pedal has a large footprint, it ain't true bypass. But even without true bypass, the clean signal sounds great and rich.
For me, this is the top of the heap when it comes to boutique -- even beating the Klon Centaur. It however is really dependent on how much extra you are willing to shell out for NOS preamp tubes and thus mileage varies. So, I have to say it is an acquired taste and you have to be very specific with regards to its application. After all, not everyone likes the sound of a vox. But one thing is for sure, when it comes to construction, workmanship and what it does in totality, no stompbox in anybody's arsenal can match.
SO WHAT?!? :lol:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: aya_yuson on December 08, 2006, 03:04:48 PM
Those who can't really play often hide behind their toys.
Wala yan sa pana, nasa Indian.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: vhunter on December 08, 2006, 04:29:37 PM
Those who can't really play often hide behind their toys.
Wala yan sa pana, nasa Indian.
And is this the same reason most professionals (insert: we all) have compressors AND USE THEM LIVE? :evil: a good indan can use both a bad and good bow and hit his target... but the less talented one can use some help from the bow... but as long as we hit the target who cares.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: vegetablejoe on December 08, 2006, 04:47:46 PM
Those who can't really play often hide behind their toys.
Wala yan sa pana, nasa Indian.
... tsuG Ouch!!!
can't really playmy guitar well, kaya I play with my toys... kasam na dito yung mga glow in the dark :evil:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on December 08, 2006, 09:22:54 PM
tagal tagal din akong nawala..musta na lahat? I see controversial pa rin talaga si OAS hehe.
sayang, di tayo nakapag tone party sir OAS nung nasa pinas ... your boutique OD's against my Digitech Bad Monkey. 40 bucks lang ang katapat nyang 400 dollar toy mo :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 09, 2006, 05:12:00 AM
Deltaslim,
"at kung pagtugtog nga Statesboro Blues lang din, kay Joey Puyat na ko... Squier Strat lang yun at Rat pero maiihi ka naman sa sarap!"
Before you shoot your mouth off can you please ask Mr. Joey Puyat why he uses his Squier Strat instead of his US Strats? I will tell you because his Squier Strat MIJ stock is better sounding than his US Strats. Kung talagang kanya kanya iyan at lahat sa kamay, ask him in detail why he loves his Squier so much. Tanunging mo na sa kanya kung ilan Squier ang sinubukan niya bago niya nahanap itong Squier na ito.
Now, you also said that if the Squier is good enough for him then the squier is good enough for us and we deserve it. So, TO ALL FORUM MEMBERS WHO OWN BAD SOUNDING SQUIERS, ACCORDING TO DELTASLIM, YOU DESERVE YOUR BAD SOUNDING SQUIERS. I will just qualify this, everyone here deserves a good sounding squier and a good sounding squier can beat a bad sounding USA Custom Shop Fender and I have played and heard bad sounding but beautiful looking Fender Custom Shops. Now, the challenge is actually looking for a good sounding squier but to be able to find a good sounding squier, the first step is to acknowledge then even if guitars are all different --- ang daming na kasing squier sa mundo --- you first have to drop the concept na kanya kanya lang iyan and really define what is a good sounding guitar for you. Because if you make a purchase decision based on looks, style and color kasi kanya kanya lang iyan, you will never even realize if you have bad sounding or good sounding guitar. Now, the 2nd big problem, I will give my personal experience on Squiers, only 1 out of 20 sound good. But thats just me...
By the way, bakit ka hindi bumili ng Squier sa Singapore if you deserve it so much? ... Ooops. Wala pa lang Squier sa Singapore pero mayroon pala sa Pilipinas. Mali pala logic ko.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Kulas on December 09, 2006, 05:16:15 AM
uhmm... time check, 5:15am... too much angst too early in the morning, hehe.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: kawayan_strat on December 09, 2006, 05:18:11 AM
Yeah, that may have been me. Kung circa '97, sa Streetlife, must've been with the showband, Legacy.
Dehin strat yon. Yamaha Pacifica. Black nga. Super strat-type guitar.
=)
Hey Aya, just curious. Did you play in a cover band before? I think I remember seeing someone who looked like you at Street Life in 1997...black Strat, with a female vocalist.
Cool! I have a video of one of your gigs...lol. Damn, your vocalist was pretty and was very good, she sure can hit them notes. She was belting out Diana King's "Shy Guy"... :-D
Oh, and I already knew how good you were back then....
Oh, I wasn't really all that good back then. Overplaying musician todo. Walang restraint. Kulang sa phrasing. Kulang na kulang sa pacing, sa hinga.
Kangkarot.
I wasn't all that good back then.
And i still ain't sh_t. :-) [/quote] eto naman si aya o,pa humble epek pa. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: alroyT on December 09, 2006, 05:19:37 AM
uhhmm check time 4:18 NYC time,Its alright!!!Dont stop pls harhar
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 09, 2006, 05:22:21 AM
vhunter,
I dont use compressors but thats because I am not a musician. Heh Heh. Not even professional in anything. But thats because I rely on my guitar and amp to give me the compression when I want. My guitars and amps also become dynamic when I want them to.
More often than not, I just plug straight and as a result, I am more conscious of my hands than what a lot of people here give me credit for. I guess am a special Indian but as you said who cares as long as I can draw emotion with a single lick with my own set of hands.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 09, 2006, 05:24:00 AM
Kulas,
Yup its early. You are too addicted to this forum... heh heh
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: alroyT on December 09, 2006, 05:24:43 AM
I dont use compressors but thats because I am not a musician. Heh Heh. Not even professional in anything. But thats because I rely on my guitar and amp to give me the compression when I want. My guitars and amps also become dynamic when I want them to.
More often than not, I just plug straight and as a result, I am more conscious of my hands than what a lot of people here give me credit for. I guess am a special Indian but as you said who cares as long as I can draw emotion with a single lick with my own set of hands.
Who's emotion did u draw from ur single lick?Not me,anybody here?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Kulas on December 09, 2006, 05:29:23 AM
Yup its early. You are too addicted to this forum... heh heh
i'm still at work bro, graveyard shift, hehe. aga mo gumising ah!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 09, 2006, 05:35:53 AM
AlroyT,
Siyempre not here... hindi naman drawing out emotion ang forum na ito boss in the musical sense ... discussion group with everybody bash OAS boxing match so that we all feel good and remain politically correct -- thats the only emotion I see here
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Poundcake on December 09, 2006, 05:42:45 AM
tama na tong away... planuhin na lang ang tone party!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 09, 2006, 05:46:04 AM
Kulas,
Theres nothing like exercising your mind first thing in the morning, its like taking coffee.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: Kulas on December 09, 2006, 05:46:32 AM
bro alex, tuloy ba yung sa 18th? where and what time?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: alroyT on December 09, 2006, 09:31:47 AM
bili ko kayo lahat ng matchless hotbox kung papayag yan mag pa tone party :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: edmund on December 09, 2006, 10:08:00 AM
it is pointless payabangan ng gears kung di namam magling tumugtog......hehehehe db fafah aya??
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 09, 2006, 10:19:03 AM
Kulas,
Hindi pa kami naguusap ni Steve... Masyadong Busy...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 09, 2006, 10:22:36 AM
edmund,
kaya nga "tone party" hindi "jamming contest" kasi equipment ang review. Di ba Aya?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: deltaslim on December 09, 2006, 11:29:57 AM
"at kung pagtugtog nga Statesboro Blues lang din, kay Joey Puyat na ko... Squier Strat lang yun at Rat pero maiihi ka naman sa sarap!"
Before you shoot your mouth off can you please ask Mr. Joey Puyat why he uses his Squier Strat instead of his US Strats? I will tell you because his Squier Strat MIJ stock is better sounding than his US Strats. Kung talagang kanya kanya iyan at lahat sa kamay, ask him in detail why he loves his Squier so much. Tanunging mo na sa kanya kung ilan Squier ang sinubukan niya bago niya nahanap itong Squier na ito.
Now, you also said that if the Squier is good enough for him then the squier is good enough for us and we deserve it. So, TO ALL FORUM MEMBERS WHO OWN BAD SOUNDING SQUIERS, ACCORDING TO DELTASLIM, YOU DESERVE YOUR BAD SOUNDING SQUIERS. I will just qualify this, everyone here deserves a good sounding squier and a good sounding squier can beat a bad sounding USA Custom Shop Fender and I have played and heard bad sounding but beautiful looking Fender Custom Shops. Now, the challenge is actually looking for a good sounding squier but to be able to find a good sounding squier, the first step is to acknowledge then even if guitars are all different --- ang daming na kasing squier sa mundo --- you first have to drop the concept na kanya kanya lang iyan and really define what is a good sounding guitar for you. Because if you make a purchase decision based on looks, style and color kasi kanya kanya lang iyan, you will never even realize if you have bad sounding or good sounding guitar. Now, the 2nd big problem, I will give my personal experience on Squiers, only 1 out of 20 sound good. But thats just me...
By the way, bakit ka hindi bumili ng Squier sa Singapore if you deserve it so much? ... Ooops. Wala pa lang Squier sa Singapore pero mayroon pala sa Pilipinas. Mali pala logic ko.
Oas - It's your lucky day! I chatted with Joey before, in-between, and after their gig last night and, guess what, he says TONE IS IN THE FINGERS! Let's see Joey Puyat vs Oas Gomez... sino ba papaniwalaan ko?
Anyway, I don't get the point of the rest of your post. It's all hogwash as far as I'm concerned. Eh kaya ko nga ni-point out na naka Squire sya dahil para sa kanya eh mas maganda kesa sa ibang options avail sa kanya. Pero ang pinakaimportante siya ang may hawak e and if a player works on his skills instead of his mouth, it matters less and less what his gear is -- regardless of how much it cost (which disproves your argument that tone is in the wallet). So what's your point?
Any mature individual here can see that you don't know how to listen and make intelligent arguments. Instead you put words into people's mouths like your outrageoust post above. Uggghhh!
If you think you have been reduced to a whipping boy and laughing-stock, it's a grave you've dug up yourself... And btw, it is true... people are laughing at you even if they don't post here. Pitiful...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: toybitz on December 09, 2006, 12:14:20 PM
"at kung pagtugtog nga Statesboro Blues lang din, kay Joey Puyat na ko... Squier Strat lang yun at Rat pero maiihi ka naman sa sarap!" - Delta
Now, you also said that if the Squier is good enough for him then the squier is good enough for us and we deserve it. So, TO ALL FORUM MEMBERS WHO OWN BAD SOUNDING SQUIERS, ACCORDING TO DELTASLIM, YOU DESERVE YOUR BAD SOUNDING SQUIERS.
Although you quoted Delta in open/close quote and quote, your second paragraph isn't his. It's definitely yours.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Al_Librero on December 09, 2006, 12:25:24 PM
Yessssss. It's getting warmer... :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: deltaslim on December 09, 2006, 12:59:12 PM
Well, I'm bored with all this now... I'd rather practice and actually WORK ON my tone rather than TALK ABOUT tone. Also, in the spirit of xmas, I'll try to promote peace and harmony by refraining from arguing with this incredibly stubborn and incorrigible fella... I'll just leave y'all with one of my favorite quotes:
Good tone = decent gear Great tone = lotsa practice
Merry xmas and peace y'all! (... and please watch Blue Xmas Party/Concert on Dec 15 at Conspiracy Garden Cafe)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: vhunter on December 09, 2006, 02:32:39 PM
I dont use compressors but thats because I am not a musician. Heh Heh. Not even professional in anything. But thats because I rely on my guitar and amp to give me the compression when I want. My guitars and amps also become dynamic when I want them to.
More often than not, I just plug straight and as a result, I am more conscious of my hands than what a lot of people here give me credit for. I guess am a special Indian but as you said who cares as long as I can draw emotion with a single lick with my own set of hands.
Lol what i meant was most pro musicians use a compressor to hide thier mistakes... in other words anyone that owns one hides behind thier gear.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: nathanmanansala on December 09, 2006, 05:14:59 PM
i love you guys... :cry:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 09, 2006, 09:03:37 PM
vhunter,
I know. I was just kiddin around too that a non musician is naive enough not to hide behind a compressor.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 09, 2006, 09:13:49 PM
Deltaslim,
Great tone is in practice? Akala ko in the hands... You are confusing us. Akala ko rin musicianship is in practice? Talagang hindi mo alam saan kukunin ang timbre mo. Well I wish Santa Clause would grant you the insight of tone.
That aside, it was a good year to spar around with but I have been advised that I do not belong in this forum. The person used the analogy of the building. I am alone on the 10th floor while the majority are on the 5th floor. No matter how hard I try to convince the 5th floor guys that the air and view is different on the 10th floor, the 5th floor guys insist it is the same. The 5th floor guys are pushing me to go down but they dont understand that I already passed the 5th floor and are not willing enough to climb on to the 10th.
You are right. Time is better spent practicing instead of posting on this forum. December will be the last month of my posts.
But to you and your family, I wish you best wishes this Christmas and Good Luck on your upcoming gigs...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: xavier on December 09, 2006, 09:27:16 PM
I heart PhilMusic.com :lol:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: deltaslim on December 09, 2006, 09:44:31 PM
Great tone is in practice? Akala ko in the hands... You are confusing us. Akala ko rin musicianship is in practice? Talagang hindi mo alam saan kukunin ang timbre mo. Well I wish Santa Clause would grant you the insight of tone.
That aside, it was a good year to spar around with but I have been advised that I do not belong in this forum. The person used the analogy of the building. I am alone on the 10th floor while the majority are on the 5th floor. No matter how hard I try to convince the 5th floor guys that the air and view is different on the 10th floor, the 5th floor guys insist it is the same. The 5th floor guys are pushing me to go down but they dont understand that I already passed the 5th floor and are not willing enough to climb on to the 10th.
You are right. Time is better spent practicing instead of posting on this forum. December will be the last month of my posts.
But to you and your family, I wish you best wishes this Christmas and Good Luck on your upcoming gigs...
I see you're still at it (as seen also in the other thread)... putting words into our mouths and twisting statements to suit your own purposes... and still looking down from your ivory tower... tsk tsk. Kahit sa huling post mo siguro di mo pa rin matitiis mang-insulto, so ibuhos mo na lahat bago matapos ang taon. But, like I said, I'm done with you, whether you leave here or not.
May have been good year of sparring for you, but me, I never enjoy it (altho I laugh a lot in the process). Nobody enjoys sparring with anyone here, least of all me cuz I enjoy making friends in this forum, in person, kahit sa buy & sell deals ko... That is a big reason I am here a lot. I've made more friends here in the last 1+ year than I have in the previous 5 years and it feels good. But my upbringing, education, and experience has taught me not to take intolerance, prejudice, and personal attacks sitting down, so there you have it...
I certainly hope you have better luck in other aspects of your life than you have had here. And I hope you take away some life lessons from this experience, as have I.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: BALDO on December 09, 2006, 11:06:27 PM
Good tone = decent gear Great tone = lotsa practice
VERY TRUE, OT lang... last year nasa kaliblibang probinsiya ako para bumisita at me band na tumugtog, low class yung gear meaning luma na yung guitars ( hindi pa orig at CHEAP copy pa), amps saka keyboard at na play ko yung drums- tunog balde..guess what ? nung tumugtog na yung band napa tunganga ako.. i was blown away!!! sarap ng tugtugan, sa tuwa ko binigyan ko ng 2 box ng guitar strings yung guitarist.. it only proves TONE IS REALLY IN THE HANDS.. PS kakahiya mang aminin na kahit na medyo mahal mga guitars ko, hindi ko pa din makukuhang TUMUNOG ng katulad nung guitarist ma me murang guitar. : :-(
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: snidd on December 10, 2006, 12:18:46 AM
Great tone is in practice? Akala ko in the hands...
paano ka ba mag practice ng gitara? kinakagat ung strings tapos nagfefret ng paa? [chewbacca].
hahahaha LOL.. ano yun Hendrix? kahit na si Jeff Healey na iba hawak sa guitar , daliri pa rin gamit..
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: brandey on December 10, 2006, 04:01:07 AM
wahahaha ok talaga d2 sa philmusic. buo nanaman araw ko may bumara nanaman sa kanya :-D ano nanaman kaya sasabihin nun para bumawi? hehehe :lol:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 10, 2006, 08:48:27 AM
Deltaslim,
Recently lang kayo nag CHAT with Joey? Good for you. Matagal ko na siya nakilala at kasama ko siya, ni Andy and Mel nagshoot out kami ng maraming gitara. And he still loves his MIJ Strat because we can ALL agree that it sounds better than the others we tested. So, did you ask him how many Squiers he tested? Joey will tell you TONE IS IN THE HANDS. He has always said that but personally I dont agree with that. HANDS are a large factor but on the same set of hands, equipment now becomes important.
You can work your hands practicing 24 hours a day and still not improve tone. You can practice on a Santa Mesa guitar all day and still sound bad on the same guitar. You can be the fastest gun in practice and not be heard in a band context because your equipment wont cut thru. As your skills improve, gear starts to matter more and more because texture/timbre now becomes important. As you gain more technique, you start to reach a certain threshold of skill and you start to now depend on gear to give you variation and to learn new skills. Si YJM practice ng practice pero si Slash hindi na nagpractice pero parehong maganda ang tone nila para sa akin. Most of you might even favor slash's tone but the guy does not practice at all anymore. Ang latest improvement niya was to start using a VOX and a Komet kasi raw it gives a different sound and feel versus his marshalls. Wala naman siya sinabi na dinamihan niya ang practice hours niya.
Lahat naman tayo nagpractice pero hindi naman lahat maganda ang TONE.
My point is that you have no point because you are all over the place. People who laugh at me are laughing because they are ignorant, and they choose to shut their mind and take consolation in laughing together as a group, too bad.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 10, 2006, 08:53:49 AM
toybitz,
The second paragraph's first sentence is a paraphrase of a quote Deltaslim put on one of these threads. The capitalized sentence is my logical deduction as a result of his generalization that Squiers are good enough for Joey and thus we deserve Squiers.
Sorry, but I do not agree. Joey may have found the one of the true good sounding Squiers but I still have not. What I have found are numerous bad sounding Squiers. Until I find that Squier, I will say that Squiers are NOT for me and I deserve better.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 10, 2006, 08:59:34 AM
Snidd at BALDO,
Lahat nga marunong humawak ng gitara gamit nga and daliri pero hindi lahat maganda ang tone.
Snidd,
Tama ka TONE IS IN THE FEET. May mga tao diyan gamit feet dahil walang kamay. Mas maganda ang TONE nila siguro kasi matinding practice iyon. Ang galing talaga ng logic niyo ... which is wala.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 10, 2006, 09:02:32 AM
Brandey,
Babaw mo naman kung bara lang ang hinahanap mo sa buhay. Magaling ka sigurong cheerleader. Isang araw malalaman mo na lang pati ka-tangahan ay chini-cheer mo.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: deltaslim on December 10, 2006, 09:51:54 AM
Recently lang kayo nag CHAT with Joey? Good for you. Matagal ko na siya nakilala at kasama ko siya, ni Andy and Mel nagshoot out kami ng maraming gitara.
And he still loves his MIJ Strat because we can ALL agree that it sounds better than the others we tested. So, did you ask him how many Squiers he tested? Joey will tell you TONE IS IN THE HANDS. He has always said that but personally I dont agree with that. HANDS are a large factor but on the same set of hands, equipment now becomes important.
Haha... pati ba naman ang pagkilala sa isang tao eh pissing contest? Kaya ko sinabi "chat" lang dahil alam ko ia-assume mo na bago ko lang siya kilala eh, dahil alam ko mahilig ka mag name-drop eh. Well as expected you bit the bait! FYI, more than 10 years ko na kilala si Joey, nun Mexicali Blues Band pa siya. Kasabayan namin sila nung mid 90s blues boom and I consider him a friend. Can you call him your friend? Never mind. I'll just ask him next week.
Quote
People who laugh at me are laughing because they are ignorant, and they choose to shut their mind and take consolation in laughing together as a group, too bad.
So this is what's going through your mind. "Why insult just deltaslim? Why not insult the rest?!"
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: eders19 on December 10, 2006, 01:24:03 PM
Great tone is in practice? Akala ko in the hands... You are confusing us. Akala ko rin musicianship is in practice? Talagang hindi mo alam saan kukunin ang timbre mo. Well I wish Santa Clause would grant you the insight of tone.
That aside, it was a good year to spar around with but I have been advised that I do not belong in this forum. The person used the analogy of the building. I am alone on the 10th floor while the majority are on the 5th floor. No matter how hard I try to convince the 5th floor guys that the air and view is different on the 10th floor, the 5th floor guys insist it is the same. The 5th floor guys are pushing me to go down but they dont understand that I already passed the 5th floor and are not willing enough to climb on to the 10th.
You are right. Time is better spent practicing instead of posting on this forum. December will be the last month of my posts.
But to you and your family, I wish you best wishes this Christmas and Good Luck on your upcoming gigs...
don't go :-(
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: snidd on December 10, 2006, 01:44:04 PM
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: aya_yuson on December 10, 2006, 04:43:40 PM
Teka, teka, teka...
I am a professional musician and have been for the past 17 years.
I don't use a compressor.
Not when recording and not when playing live onstage.
I can control my own dynamics and sustain my own notes when i want to, thank you.
And i'm not the only pro guitarist who feels this way.
Here are a few others who do too...
Janno Queyquep, Butch Victoriano (South Border), Kakoi Legaspi (star sessionist these days), and many others.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 10, 2006, 05:06:45 PM
aya,
joke lang iyon ni vhunter... na marami raw nagtatago behind the compressor. I don't think he meant that it applied to all...
merry xmas pala sa iyo...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 10, 2006, 05:08:59 PM
Snidd,
Ikaw nag-imply that whatever is used to fret the guitar while practicing is the source of the tone. Hindi galing sa akin iyon. I am just extending your logic which you still don't have.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: snidd on December 11, 2006, 01:39:24 AM
Ikaw nag-imply that whatever is used to fret the guitar while practicing is the source of the tone. Hindi galing sa akin iyon. I am just extending your logic which you still don't have.
di rin.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: alkohol on December 11, 2006, 02:24:49 AM
we have supplies now up to vol 8 of the chronicles...
tone is in practice is the same as tone is in the hands simply because
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: alkohol on December 11, 2006, 02:30:50 AM
(ooops.. take 2)
tone is in practice is the same as tone is in the hands because WE USE HANDS WHEN WE PRACTICE!... nothing is confusing here
[grape] OR PILOSOPO... or better yet.. [grape] NA PILOSOPO PA
HAY TALAGA NAMAN!!!
CHRONICLES NA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tapos sasabihin nasa 10th floor sya
middle fingers up.. waaaay up!
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: alroyT on December 11, 2006, 02:39:38 AM
That aside, it was a good year to spar around with but I have been advised that I do not belong in this forum. The person used the analogy of the building. I am alone on the 10th floor while the majority are on the 5th floor. No matter how hard I try to convince the 5th floor guys that the air and view is different on the 10th floor, the 5th floor guys insist it is the same. The 5th floor guys are pushing me to go down but they dont understand that I already passed the 5th floor and are not willing enough to climb on to the 10th.
OASS, you sure your on the 10th floor and the rest on the 5th?Or is it the other way around?Your such a cocky $&^%.One thing i'm sure im 100 floors above you,hell yah.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Letour on December 11, 2006, 10:49:36 AM
Pucha,
I was gone for 5 days and this thread multiplied. Naking showbiz na about Joey Puyat.
The gun slinging has become about Squiers, Joey Puyat and frets being misread as feet.
Basta, I am just waiting for Al's......... :lol:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: psychic_sushi on December 11, 2006, 02:06:27 PM
hmm...
I think this little clip I have here may have the answer to all your woes about bloody tone. amps, guitars, effects, you're leaving the "room" out of the equation! even a crappy amp can sound good in a room that compliments it's tone!
check out the set up in my bedroom, i defy ANYONE WHO CAN DO BETTER!!!
:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: vhunter on December 11, 2006, 02:30:45 PM
I use my compressor when i SHHHHHRREEEEDD .... lol coz without it i sound like a duck.. hahahha.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 11, 2006, 02:45:56 PM
Deltaslim,
I only answer you because you keep on posting in my threads and posting against my posts. Sorry kung na-insulto ka pala... Funny you complain about stooping down to my level yet you love posting againt me and yet complain when I answer you which you think are insults? You are strange.
By the way bago ka magpost that a Squire is good enough because Joey uses it, dapat pala itananong mo muna sa kanya kung bakit iyun ang gamit niya -- ten years ago before you post it here -- at ilan Squier na rin ang napagpilian niya.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: skunkyfunk on December 11, 2006, 03:20:02 PM
Great tone is in practice? Akala ko in the hands... You are confusing us. Akala ko rin musicianship is in practice? Talagang hindi mo alam saan kukunin ang timbre mo. Well I wish Santa Clause would grant you the insight of tone.
That aside, it was a good year to spar around with but I have been advised that I do not belong in this forum. The person used the analogy of the building. I am alone on the 10th floor while the majority are on the 5th floor. No matter how hard I try to convince the 5th floor guys that the air and view is different on the 10th floor, the 5th floor guys insist it is the same. The 5th floor guys are pushing me to go down but they dont understand that I already passed the 5th floor and are not willing enough to climb on to the 10th.
You are right. Time is better spent practicing instead of posting on this forum. December will be the last month of my posts.
But to you and your family, I wish you best wishes this Christmas and Good Luck on your upcoming gigs...
Dude, what if there is a 15th floor, or a 20th floor, or moreso, a penthouse? But then, you need a badge to get you past the 10th floor. And what is the badge? Is it "practice", or is it "more gear options?" And what if someone from the penthouse comes to you on the 10th floor and says, "the Penthouse looks nice but the air is too thin..."
I think this is pretty similar to an old thread I made ala Plato's "Allegory of the Cave". It is pointless to argue when people cannot separate timbre from talent. It's just exhausting.
Sa recording pa lang ang hirap na magpaliwanag na gamitin ang amp distortion. Eh paano pa kaya kung mag-recommend na MAMUHAY KASAMA ANG MAGANDANG AMPS?
After listening to several old and new recordings, it seems to me that equipment are not really getting better, but rather getting more diverse. It's like, Alex Lifeson of Rush wouldn't look for a hughes and Kettner Triamp back in the "Fly By Night" days simply because they did not exist then. Hence the Plexis... But then, if someone brought a time machine to the 70's and showed him his "Alex Lifeson signature amp", would he like it?
Anyway, a lot are simply licking their wounds rather than find the real cure to their tonal deficiencies. Yes, to some extent, talent can make a below average setup sound great. Take Jun Lopito for instance; I saw him play through the crappiest Peavey Supersat amps and sounded quite great. But when he plugged to my Randall RM100 using the Plexi module, he sounded 3x as good. And it makes me wonder what if you gave him a room full of different amps for him to choose from AND LIVE WITH AND BRING TO GIGS?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Letour on December 11, 2006, 03:23:02 PM
By the way bago ka magpost that a Squire is good enough because Joey uses it, dapat pala itananong mo muna sa kanya kung bakit iyun ang gamit niya -- ten years ago before you post it here -- at ilan Squier na rin ang napagpilian niya.
Kaya pala you guys are arguing. You are talking about two totally different brands. Yung kay oas, Squire and then for Delta, it's the Squier. :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: skunkyfunk on December 11, 2006, 03:29:32 PM
I was gone for 5 days and this thread multiplied. Naking showbiz na about Joey Puyat.
The gun slinging has become about Squiers, Joey Puyat and frets being misread as feet.
Basta, I am just waiting for Al's......... :lol:
Personally, my take on guitars is that there is a larger success rate with getting cheap but excellent sounding guitars. So when someone chooses a Squier over an MIA Fender, maybe it's because that SPECIFIC SQUIER sounded better. But THAT REQUIRED AN INFORMED CHOICE, to try all Strats at his disposal to know which sounds best. Furthermore, ask Joey - would he always recommend a Squier Strat over others, say like a Suhr? For me mas malakas ang "tiyamba" factor with guitars. And with not so expensive upgrades like pickups and hardware, you can improve your guitar further. What oasgomez is simply saying is that in order to find out, you have to spend quite a bit to have more options, to find out what can work best for you.
But with the case of AMPS, it is totally different. It is hard to come by a cheap amp that can rival a boutique amp.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: deltaslim on December 11, 2006, 04:06:35 PM
Great tone is in practice? Akala ko in the hands... You are confusing us. Akala ko rin musicianship is in practice? Talagang hindi mo alam saan kukunin ang timbre mo. Well I wish Santa Clause would grant you the insight of tone.
That aside, it was a good year to spar around with but I have been advised that I do not belong in this forum. The person used the analogy of the building. I am alone on the 10th floor while the majority are on the 5th floor. No matter how hard I try to convince the 5th floor guys that the air and view is different on the 10th floor, the 5th floor guys insist it is the same. The 5th floor guys are pushing me to go down but they dont understand that I already passed the 5th floor and are not willing enough to climb on to the 10th.
You are right. Time is better spent practicing instead of posting on this forum. December will be the last month of my posts.
But to you and your family, I wish you best wishes this Christmas and Good Luck on your upcoming gigs...
Dude, what if there is a 15th floor, or a 20th floor, or moreso, a penthouse? But then, you need a badge to get you past the 10th floor. And what is the badge? Is it "practice", or is it "more gear options?" And what if someone from the penthouse comes to you on the 10th floor and says, "the Penthouse looks nice but the air is too thin..."
I think this is pretty similar to an old thread I made ala Plato's "Allegory of the Cave". It is pointless to argue when people cannot separate timbre from talent. It's just exhausting.
Sa recording pa lang ang hirap na magpaliwanag na gamitin ang amp distortion. Eh paano pa kaya kung mag-recommend na MAMUHAY KASAMA ANG MAGANDANG AMPS?
After listening to several old and new recordings, it seems to me that equipment are not really getting better, but rather getting more diverse. It's like, Alex Lifeson of Rush wouldn't look for a hughes and Kettner Triamp back in the "Fly By Night" days simply because they did not exist then. Hence the Plexis... But then, if someone brought a time machine to the 70's and showed him his "Alex Lifeson signature amp", would he like it?
Anyway, a lot are simply licking their wounds rather than find the real cure to their tonal deficiencies. Yes, to some extent, talent can make a below average setup sound great. Take Jun Lopito for instance; I saw him play through the crappiest Peavey Supersat amps and sounded quite great. But when he plugged to my Randall RM100 using the Plexi module, he sounded 3x as good. And it makes me wonder what if you gave him a room full of different amps for him to choose from AND LIVE WITH AND BRING TO GIGS?
This building analogy begs the question... What useful purpose does those levels serve? Nothing related to music or even tone, IMO. Excellent music can be made at all levels as long as the player knows how to play to the strengths (and downplay the limitations) of his gear. An itenerant bluesman with a cigar box-gtr and a switchblade for slide can be as powerful as SRV wringing his vintage Strat through Dumbles. They both know what timbre/tone they're looking for; you can basically cancel out talent in that equation. I don't think people here are necessarily licking their wounds just because they can't afford botweek stuff and are confined to a certain level and others are at 'higher' levels. The problem is that these "levels" are being substituted lock, stock, and barrel for tone and musicality and feel slighted that people would assume they can't have tone and/or musiciality at their level. Anyone can enjoy themselves at their own "level". But it has no correlation with tone nor musicality.
Btw, I've been wondering who gave Oas that building analogy and who told him he does not belong in this forum. Just curious and intrigued... it might be a concern for all forumites, actually. I'm tired (and am refraining from) mudslinging but I'm always gonna fight for democratic and human rights, incl the right to share one's opinion and thoughts in public (NOT including personal attacks tho).
But for now (and in response to all of the current and future tirades by Oas), Im telling myself: "See no evil, hear no evil!" (Ika nga ni Poundcake)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: blues2death on December 11, 2006, 05:08:19 PM
oasgomez...bakit ba no remorse ka pare? dami mong na offend dito. sa dami ng nakakainis na posts/threads mo dito...kung equivalent ng talent mo as a guitar player ikaw na cguro si segovia.
pwede ba tigilan mo na pare? it doesnt hold any water anymore, coz nobody will listen to a reviewer who can't play to save his life.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: oasgomez-is-banned on December 11, 2006, 05:17:35 PM
Deltaslim,
Someone very very very very close to you...
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: nathanmanansala on December 11, 2006, 05:56:22 PM
i love you guys :cry:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: chadrobles on December 11, 2006, 06:04:47 PM
DEC 18- PURPLE HAZE
MYTH BUSTERS!!!! TONE EDITION!!!
:-D
eto na lang title pwede, tnx to eric of audiophile for the brilliant suggestion.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: snidd on December 11, 2006, 09:21:13 PM
eh kung iisang building lang naman.. dun na ko sa may baba.. kung aircon naman lahat ng floor.. haha.. tapos pag nasira ung elevator.. ayus lang. di ako mapapagod umakyat.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: marzi on December 12, 2006, 03:18:02 AM
love is in the air.... 8-)
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: deltaslim on December 12, 2006, 08:15:46 AM
Very very very very close to me? That can only be my wife, kids, and buddies from college and kumpares. But knowing who are close to you and whom you listen to you must be referring to Arie Hipolito. Well, that's news to me. But that wouldn't be the first time na pinagbawalan ka nyang mang-attack dito sa forum. You and I both know that.
I only answer you because you keep on posting in my threads and posting against my posts. Sorry kung na-insulto ka pala... Funny you complain about stooping down to my level yet you love posting againt me and yet complain when I answer you which you think are insults? You are strange.
Oas, here's a straighforward and simple question: Show me a new thread/post by you where I instantly attacked your person. All I do is offer an opinion -- if it runs counter to yours (like many here), why get hurt so much? What usually happens is this:
1. Oas posts an opinion/statement of information 2. I or others post their opinion or challenge the statement/information (which may fully or slightly counter against yours) 3. You attack the other person at a personal level (not anymore talking about the gear, but more on the capacity or qualifications of the other person to HAVE such an opinion) 4. I or other person (of course) attack back (dahil personal nga e)
I've seen this unfold countless times but you don't seem to see the pattern and always insist people are after you as a person instead of your particular opinion. There's a big difference that you like glossing over.
So, please do me a favor and point out to me exactly in which thread/post where you post an opinion and I instantly attacked you as a person instead of your opinion/information.
PS - Of course, there's always the big possibility that you will see this as an attack again, instead of a "point of inquiry", as they say in Congress.
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: turiguiliano on December 12, 2006, 09:18:13 AM
By the way bago ka magpost that a Squire is good enough because Joey uses it, dapat pala itananong mo muna sa kanya kung bakit iyun ang gamit niya -- ten years ago before you post it here -- at ilan Squier na rin ang napagpilian niya.
Kaya pala you guys are arguing. You are talking about two totally different brands. Yung kay oas, Squire and then for Delta, it's the Squier. :-D
:cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: aya_yuson on December 12, 2006, 01:39:29 PM
Ewan ko kayo, pero ako, nasa 1st floor pa lang. At kailangan ko pang ilampaso.
Teka nga, magbubunot muna ako.
:lol:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: vhunter on December 12, 2006, 02:44:43 PM
Ewan ko kayo, pero ako, nasa 1st floor pa lang. At kailangan ko pang ilampaso.
Teka nga, magbubunot muna ako.
:lol:
aya, Wag mo gayahin gupit ko! Trademark ko yan! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: alkohol on December 23, 2006, 03:59:21 PM
BWAHAHAHAHA
hanep talaga si aya... kaya saludo kami sayo eh.. humble ka.
pakilampaso na rin ang kwarto ko at pataihin ang aso sa labas... hehehe :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: nathanmanansala on December 24, 2006, 06:44:02 AM
LOL buhay pa din 'tong thread na 'to?! cool. madali nang hanapin.
you know something? i think i agree with mr. gomez. i think its because christmas is less than 24 hours away. i think anyone would sound better with better gear.
but the ones who need to have better gear to sound better are the ones who cant play.
merry christmas!!! :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: xelalien on December 26, 2006, 10:13:10 PM
long live this thread! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: nathanmanansala on December 28, 2006, 09:14:33 AM
bump.
dont you guys miss him already? :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Letour on December 28, 2006, 10:12:03 AM
Kapag SoCal Boys ang nawala or umalis dito sa PhilMusic, un ang malungkot. :-P Pansin ko kaya lumakas Philmusic dahil sa kanila!!! :-D Dati mainit ang Yupangco Forums, pero the past year humina, pano nahila ng mafia na yan. :-D Mga GAS Masters!!! :-D
Hep!hep!hep! IMHO lang naman.. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challeng
Post by: Machine_Head on December 28, 2006, 01:12:10 PM
Guys fill me in as i havent been able to check the forum lately. Umm where's oas goin?
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: aya_yuson on December 28, 2006, 03:20:25 PM
Pumunta ng 11th floor... puro boutique don, eh. :-D
Title: Re: Boutique Pedal Review: Matchless Hot Box -- Not for the financially challenged
Post by: marzi on December 28, 2006, 05:01:27 PM